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holley
Wednesday, August 3, 2011, 9:28pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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i am new... and O   and just realized that the rice milks in the stores contain the avoid oils! what do you all do? gosh, i was drinking soooo much milk before i started. eeek! does anyone make their own or know of a brand to use?

(also, agave syrup to sweeten?)  

thank you!! everyone is so supportive!




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For me the Carrageenan is worse than the oils.




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thank you C! i'm stopping by the store on my way home from work. there is so much to learn. (...still weaning off splenda too. so afraid to say that btw   )


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If I was really in a pinch, I'd probably use Rice Dream (or Trader Joe's brand), because the only avoids in there are the oils and there really isn't a LOT of oil in there to begin with. But I make my own on a regular basis- in fact, I need to make more tonight (but I have to wash out a bunch of things in my kitchen first- DD1 is getting creative in there right now.) I also make a lot of almond milk for DD1, which is even easier to make, but doesn't agree with me as well.

If you're still transitioning over, you may want to stick with the purchased rice milk for another week or so, while changing over foods that have larger quantities of avoids in them.

Your best bet is to figure out menus and meal plans that don't rely on milk at all. Use water in baking or cooking. I use about an ounce of rice milk daily, in my hot cocoa/yerba mate. I don't drink rice milk by the cupful- that would be too high in carbs.


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thanks ruthie! i was drinking so much regular milk before i started. i would make an ice coffee in the morning and bring an iced green tea matcha with me to work every day. that's about 2 1/2 cups of regular milk a day. big change to what i'm doing now!

i was really surprised that there was oil in rice milk. i shop primarily at trader joes any way, so when i can't make it, i will be sure to buy it there!

so, if i have very little of the avoid foods, it's not a huge deal? i have been real careful, but it's very hard at times, especially since my husband is an A. we're working at it!


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If I was really in a pinch, I'd probably use Rice Dream (or Trader Joe's brand), because the only avoids in there are the oils and there really isn't a LOT of oil in there to begin with. But I make my own on a regular basis- in fact, I need to make more tonight (but I have to wash out a bunch of things in my kitchen first- DD1 is getting creative in there right now.) I also make a lot of almond milk for DD1, which is even easier to make, but doesn't agree with me as well.

If you're still transitioning over, you may want to stick with the purchased rice milk for another week or so, while changing over foods that have larger quantities of avoids in them.

Your best bet is to figure out menus and meal plans that don't rely on milk at all. Use water in baking or cooking. I use about an ounce of rice milk daily, in my hot cocoa/yerba mate. I don't drink rice milk by the cupful- that would be too high in carbs.


I'm really glad you both brought this up! I did not check the oils in Rice Dream but I do understand. Also, I might add, I am gauging my progress on how much "bad" I can eliminate every day, but soberly realise this takes time, and don't down myself for tiny amounts of bad oils. either. Gradual improvement is the key cos Rome wasn't built in a day......(my body thanks me for this)

PS: splenda is forced through chlorine molecules when formulated. It is a terrible sweetener that can easily affect the thyroid in anyone. Ever wonder why so much attention is NOW given in the media to women's thyroid problems? "AHA!"........(there's your moment!)


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so, if i have very little of the avoid foods, it's not a huge deal? i have been real careful, but it's very hard at times, especially since my husband is an A. we're working at it!


It's definitely better to 100% avoid the avoids. But it's better to eat a small amount of an avoid (trace amounts of oil in Rice Beverage) rather than a huge quantity of an avoid (several cups of cow's milk.)

Most people find that there are avoids, and then there are avoids. I can't have anything with even a trace amount of wheat in it. I can literally get sick just from touching wheat products, if the item is  wet and I have a cut on my skin. But a few avoid oils? They don't seem to affect me. I still make every effort to be 100% compliant, and anyway I save a ton of money by making most things from scratch, but if I had more money and less time, that's a place I'd compromise on.

Meanwhile, others find that avoid oils are their "Achilles' heal" and, while they might do fine with small amounts of potato or wheat, trace amounts of sunflower oil will cause them major GI troubles or make their arthritis flare up. We all have our individual "worst offendors."

Ideally, we'd all be 100% compliant for at least a few months before experimenting, so we can see what affects us the most. But the reality is that there are a lot of changes to be made when we start this way of eating, and many of us find the need to take a few shortcuts in the beginning.

Ideally, you'll find ways to use less "milk" in your tea altogether, and then the question of "what should I use as a milk replacement" doesn't matter, or at least doesn't matter as much. You may prefer to use Trader Joe's soymilk rather than the rice milk- true, soy isn't a great choice for Os, but it is neutral, and the unsweetened variety is just soybeans and water. It's good for your Type A hubby and it shouldn't hurt you if you're only using an ounce or two a day.


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Thanks for this info.  I had no idea they put oil into rice drinks?  The only time I tried drinking one, it tasted gross.   Almond milk tastes better.

But why put oil?
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But why put oil?


Makes the beverage "creamier." Without it the beverage tastes watery.

It is sort of a "texture" thing.

Some people says oil gives the beverage a "full body"





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Yup, it makes for a smoother rice milk. I've tried making it without, and it wasn't as good. I don't need much- about a teaspoon in a quart of milk. I use extra virgin olive oil, even though rice milk is a "sweet" beverage, adn it doesn't affect the flavor at all. It's too little.


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Regular milk has milk fat in it, so....

I use ghee in a homemade compliant hot chocolate drink.


My SWAMI diet is a blend of BTD and GTD Explorer, but I'm not totally compliant.  Also I try to choose foods that have a Low Glycemic index.  DW and DD are A+, probably also Explorer.
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