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kauaian
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Today's Wellness Tip From the Future...
http://drcarolyndean.com/tips?e=0130-1&p=2966

Aloha,
A veterinarian friend from Oklahoma read my blog on Dubai and
shared with me the following:

"I was talking with a family friend who has been an Air Force nurse
for about 20 years with tours in Afghanistan and the Mid-East.  She
told me about the many cases of kidney stones she was seeing in
soldiers returning from a Mid-East deployment and she had no idea
why.  

Of course, I told her it was easy and predictable.  Soldiers have
an incredibly high sodium intake.  If not drinking bottled water,
which only the rear echelon (those not in the field) are able to
consistently have, they are drinking local water that has a pound
of salt and 1 cup of bleach added to a 55-gallon drum.  

In addition, most soldiers in the field eat many more MRE's
(military meals) than they are supposed to. MRE's are extremely
high in salt (and also cause constipation). All that sodium is
pumping magnesium and potassium out in the urine, and a massive
amount of minerals are lost in their sweat. Their T-shirts stand
up, hard as boards when they dry with all those minerals.

Therefore, there is no magnesium to balance out the calcium, and
thus the high incidence of calcium oxalate stones.  This, in my
opinion, represents just the tip of the iceberg concerning how
magnesium and mineral deficiency affects our soldiers.  The
problems just continue to roll on, and like a snowball rolling down
a hill, it ends up an avalanche."

Previously my friend had told me that he thinks many of the
"errors" in the field can be caused by lack of minerals that leads
to a degree of brain swelling (too much water and not enough
minerals in brain cells).

That's why it makes more sense to send gift packages of magnesium
instead of candy to your loved ones stationed in the Middle East?

Carolyn Dean MD ND
The Doctor of the Future

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"That's why it makes more sense to send gift packages of magnesium
instead of candy to your loved ones stationed in the Middle East? "
Absolutely!!! Oh boy what happened to the saying -or rather the belief in, &  application of same - that an army marches on its stomach??? Seems like with those food provisions they'd spend more time writhing on their stomachs??
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Magnesium catalyzes over 300 enzymes in the body.


A whole system is a living system is a learning system.’ -Stewart Brand
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Oooh that's a great word Dr D!!! I tell my customers it "supports over 300 functions" That word sounds much more impressive...& more correct;)
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Cool!!  



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Quoted from Dr. D
Magnesium catalyzes over 300 enzymes in the body.


Awesome! Thank you! I am currently reading "The Magnesium Miracle" and using transdermal mag and also selling it in my store and to my Massage Therapy clients. I had read that it is needed for over 300 different functions in the body, good to know now what those 300 functions are!

The healing testimonials from everyone that is now using the transdermal mag is just amazing! I didn't realize how deficient I was until I started reading up on it all.

My step father (B blood type) is extremely magnesium deficient. The more I thought about it I realized that most foods that are on his avoid list are also the ones that have magnesium in them. Interesting! So now I've got him on mag and his big lymphatic lump on the back of his neck/shoulders is starting to disappear and be less painful! Among other things.

Sure it good to be finding out all these different things to do to help myself, my family, friends and clients heal!  


O positive baby boy.
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Are there particular genotypes that tend to have magnesium deficiency more easily or need it more than others?  I know its needed by everyone!
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check out the magnesium content in all GT sups.....
see which Gt needs more


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i have the transdermal mag oil, boy it stings for about a minute , have not noticed any pros or other cons yet; i use approx 1.5tspn all over.
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B's seem to be the most mag deficient. In my opinion as I've been seeing deficiency signs in every B I come in contact with and speak with them about their health concerns. Than again everyone I talk to is deficient... B's just seem to have that much more deficiency signs.

As for the stinging... it just means you are really that deficient. Otherwise it wouldn't sting. It's best to dilute it and slowly build up your bodies stores without stinging yourself.


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How much magnesium is absorbed via epsom salts vs the magnesium oil? Is giving my kids regular epsom salts baths a realistic alternative to  buying magnesium oil? Epsom salts are readily available in local stores.


Ruth, Single Mother to 20 yo  O- Leah , 18 yo O- Hannah, and  13 yo B+ Jack


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How much magnesium is absorbed via epsom salts vs the magnesium oil? Is giving my kids regular epsom salts baths a realistic alternative to  buying magnesium oil? Epsom salts are readily available in local stores.


I've read that you can soak up a heck of a lot of magnesium that way. You should be putting it in your bathwater anyway. Soaking in hot water is otherwise magnesium-depleting.



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My kids would otherwise be taking showers.


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Quoted from Lola
check out the magnesium content in all GT sups.....
see which Gt needs more


This is interesting, Lola.  So, should I take:

Polyvite A (multivitamin formula) and Phytocal A (sea-based mineral formula)

or

Exakta and the All GenoTypes Multimineral?  <-- currently have these
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This is interesting, Lola.  So, should I take:

Polyvite A (multivitamin formula) and Phytocal A (sea-based mineral formula)

or

Exakta and the All GenoTypes Multimineral?  <-- currently have these


Polyvite A can help you with the B vitamins you need to deal with your stress, but without magnesium. Exakta has a very small amount of magnesium. If you're dealing here with the same problem - insomnia - that we're working with you on, on your insomnia thread, then trying a straight mag. supplement would be helpful. Taking mag. alone will tell you if it's of use for that, and it's really inexpensive, as supplements go.



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It's funny, I don't feel very stressed right now, but I'm not sure if it's due to the turkey I ate today for lunch (been on fish and beans for a few days now), or the 500mg of Mg I took this morning.  I am looking at my SWAMI and it suggests only these additional things:

GATHERER/WARRIOR SYNERGIST
WARRIOR CATALYST
WARRIOR ACTIVATOR
WARRIOR GENOTYPE 3 PACK
CHOCOLATE CHERRY BAR (12-Pk)
BLUEBERRY ALMOND BAR (12-Pk)
WEIGHT LOSS PACK FOR A
BASIC TYPE A PACK
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It's funny, I don't feel very stressed right now, but I'm not sure if it's due to the turkey I ate today for lunch (been on fish and beans for a few days now), or the 500mg of Mg I took this morning.  


If it's odd for you to not feel stressed and you're using a decent dose of a supplement recommended you for stress-reduction for the first time, what's to wonder? The stuff works. Maybe you don't want to take it forever, but let it take you over this hump if you need it, while you get your diet together. But that's just my opinion, based on experiences of several others too.



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How much magnesium is absorbed via epsom salts vs the magnesium oil? Is giving my kids regular epsom salts baths a realistic alternative to  buying magnesium oil? Epsom salts are readily available in local stores.



Epsom salt as opposed to magnesium oil is vastly different. The amount you get from epsom salts is very low. The magnesium oil is really the only way I have found to actually increase magnesium levels. I'm reading a book on it right now called. "The Magnesium Miracle" by Caroline Dean MD ND



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It's funny, I don't feel very stressed right now, but I'm not sure if it's due to the turkey I ate today for lunch (been on fish and beans for a few days now), or the 500mg of Mg I took this morning.  I am looking at my SWAMI and it suggests only these additional things:

GATHERER/WARRIOR SYNERGIST
WARRIOR CATALYST
WARRIOR ACTIVATOR
WARRIOR GENOTYPE 3 PACK
CHOCOLATE CHERRY BAR (12-Pk)
BLUEBERRY ALMOND BAR (12-Pk)
WEIGHT LOSS PACK FOR A
BASIC TYPE A PACK


I really don't mean to be a party pooper, but this list disturbs me.  Unibars are great if you need a good snack when you're on the go.  I buy them myself.  But I don't consider them a supplement that would be necessary for good health.  It makes me wonder what other products are optional, as if these suggestions are like the ones Amazon.com offers when you buy a book from them.  Or does SWAMI have a checkbox for "I have no time for regular meals and need to supplement with energy bars"?


My SWAMI diet is a blend of BTD and GTD Explorer, but I'm not totally compliant.  Also I try to choose foods that have a Low Glycemic index.  DW and DD are A+, probably also Explorer.
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No they just recommend things that are useful I think... Well certainly the test you can run on site does that...
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Lola.. IS there a TEST somewhere for all who would like to see what might be recommended for all..

like the encyclopedia?? if I look at that I can see so many items I could identify with- I would need a whole store of pills .. I mean like
skin spots and aging,
fingernails dry or brittle,
intestines all sorts of issues at times,
hot or to much moist feet and hands?
hot flashes at night
sleeping still some issues of to much or not enough
getting up nights to urinate
eyes needing strength and prevention,
tongue abused from teeth -crowns, implants and metals,
heart with prolonged rapid beating at times, high altitude weakness,
hearing the pulse in my left ear
water retention
nerve burning in feet
pinched muscles in my neck
lazy
fearful for real issues
to trusting or believing in goodness
dependency issues as seen by being here
veins getting weaker
recurrent fever blisters her[is  since birth
repair for many antibiotics
tissue weakening in throat while sleeping causes sleep interruption
snoring
over weight
some headaches
severe weight gain
hives upon eating wrong foods
urine weakness
bladder weakness
dry lips to chapping
overall inflammation on the inside affecting the heart

I mean the list goes on... did I mention syndrome X or diabetes? and if I ate reg foods then Fibro myalgia and severe weight gain?  

I mean its like this.. if I had to take all the stuff one reads about, I would not need dinner any more..

On the other hand .. what is the needs for on alcoholic person for Magnesium OIL?  for that matter where do you buy it? and how to use it?  Are there other oils  he could use.. instead of pills that might help his thinking? can oils be bought over seas?  thanks


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