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benandbecca
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I am completely frustrated with SWAMI. I just put in all of my information, which is very detailed, and it determines I am a Teacher. I don't really fit the profile of a Teacher (more of an Explorer), but that doesn't matter so much. What frustrates me is that it recommends quite a few dairy products that I am fairly confident I cannot have. For example, it lists Parmesan cheese as a Diamond Superfood. If I go to the Type 4 database, it is an Avoid for Type A Non-Secretors like myself and says:

Non Secretor:
AVOID: Flocculates serum or precipitates serum proteins. Increases polyamine or indican levels. Inhibits proper gastric function or blocks assimilation.

I didn't bother to go through the list of foods to see how many Avoids are now listed as Superfoods for me (there were around 7 cheeses at least), but even if they weren't Avoids in the BTD, I KNOW I cannot tolerate much dairy. It causes inflammatory pain in my back, and I have serious candida issues and did well off of all dairy on the candida diet. If the BTD is based on scientific evidence, and I believe it is, then how can SWAMI totally disregard it?

Furthermore, it continues to categorize my husband as a Warrior, and as long as the diet is good, that is fine, but when I did the Genotype Kit, we were both classified as Explorers when we did the basic calculations. My husband very much fits the Explorer profile in many ways. His main problems seem to be liver and detoxification issues as well as underlying infection. I really think he fits the Explorer profile as his liver issues seem to be the main critical issue.  My main issues seem to be adrenal exhaustion and candida issues. I have no idea where that would put me, but I can't follow a good bit of SWAMI and expect to get healthy.

We have serious health issues, and we are both so ready to do a drastic overhaul and follow the BTD very closely, but I was hoping SWAMI would fine tune the BTD for our health issues, not totally disregard some of it. If I could just get it straight what I can eat and what I can't, that would be great! That's all I want right now. If anyone has any input, I would appreciate it. I am very confused. Is the Type 4 database even accurate? Also, there are foods in SWAMI that are not on the Type 4 database, that I need to know about like hemp, for example, but I feel like I cannot trust SWAMI. I just want to know what to do.  

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read this and decide if this science isn t mind blowing and complex:
typing food/gtd explained.....science behind....tests research food values
http://www.dadamo.com/B2blogs/blogs/index.php/2010/03/27/hows-and-whys?blog=24
hows and whys
http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?b-GTDdiet/m-1202698596/#num13
http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?b-GTDdiet/m-1202698596/
determinant for typing food
because the program chose those foods based on algorithms devised by Dr D. The logic is his, the computer does the scoring based on that.
http://www.dadamo.com/GenoType/7GTDflowchart.jpg
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Don't be frustrated   A lot of people do not end up being the genotype in swami that they were "by the book".  If you entered the info correctly, then just go with it and see what happens.  I am a Teacher by the book and Explorer by swami, and the swami diet is infinitely better for me.  I also don't do well on dairy, and I was very hesitant to even try the cheeses listed on swami.  Eventually I did try the diamond cheeses, and...they don't bother me at all!  I couldn't believe that it was possible for me to eat dairy.  swami knew.

also, don't go by the typebase values when using swami; typebase is for BTD, and swami has to be viewed as a separate entity.  I am a BT A (and have a feeling that I'm a nonsecretor), but Parmesan cheese has become one of my best friends.

The more I followed the swami diet, the more I realized how "right on" it really is.  I didn't see it at first, but new realizations continuously pop up.  I had originally entered something wrong, resulting in my swami diet being incorrect, and I could tell; I felt horrible, but as soon as I corrected the error I could tell that things were right.  So if you think the data you entered is correct, just follow the diet, and your body will tell you if it's right or wrong.  If there are any foods that you know you have a bad reaction to or are allergic to, definitely avoid those, but, as for others, you might be surprised that some foods you thought you can't eat, you really can.


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Most of those links you posted were the main reasons I purchased SWAMI. The issue is that either Parmesan Cheese, for example, does what the Type 4 database says it does for Type A Non-Secretors or not: Flocculates serum or precipitates serum proteins. Increases polyamine or indican levels. Inhibits proper gastric function or blocks assimilation.

I am not willing to trust SWAMI if the BTD says it is harmful. One of them has to be right. It can't be both an Avoid and a Diamond Superfood. I am assuming that if it is in the Type4 Database that it is there for a reason. Is SWAMI saying that Parmesan cheese is a Diamond Superfood for some Type A Non-Secretors, but not necessarily all?

Is there anyone who has done better on the BTD as a non-secretor than on the GTD? I am very sorry if I seem exasperating, but I am exasperated. I just want a diet I can trust that makes sense.
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Don't be frustrated   A lot of people do not end up being the genotype in swami that they were "by the book".  If you entered the info correctly, then just go with it and see what happens.  I am a Teacher by the book and Explorer by swami, and the swami diet is infinitely better for me.  I also don't do well on dairy, and I was very hesitant to even try the cheeses listed on swami.  Eventually I did try the diamond cheeses, and...they don't bother me at all!  I couldn't believe that it was possible for me to eat dairy.  swami knew.

also, don't go by the typebase values when using swami; typebase is for BTD, and swami has to be viewed as a separate entity.  I am a BT A (and have a feeling that I'm a nonsecretor), but Parmesan cheese has become one of my best friends.

The more I followed the swami diet, the more I realized how "right on" it really is.  I didn't see it at first, but new realizations continuously pop up.  I had originally entered something wrong, resulting in my swami diet being incorrect, and I could tell; I felt horrible, but as soon as I corrected the error I could tell that things were right.  So if you think the data you entered is correct, just follow the diet, and your body will tell you if it's right or wrong.  If there are any foods that you know you have a bad reaction to or are allergic to, definitely avoid those, but, as for others, you might be surprised that some foods you thought you can't eat, you really can.


Thank you for this thoughtful post! I am wondering though... Weren't all of those foods in the Type 4 database tested for the various blood types? If so, how can the results be disregarded?
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Sorry, if I have exasperated you. I am a very open minded person, but even this is a stretch for me. If GTD is superior, why bother to even promote the BTD at all?
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Swami is just like the BTD in that tweaking foods you know bother you is an individual thing that swami cannot factor in.


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Quoted from benandbecca
Thank you for this thoughtful post! I am wondering though... Weren't all of those foods in the Type 4 database tested for the various blood types? If so, how can the results be disregarded?
SWAMI takes more factors into consideration than the typebase does.

All foods have pros and cons.  SWAMI tries to pick foods for which the pros outweigh the cons, and calls those "superfoods".  However, SWAMI doesn't know every idiosyncrasy of your body.  For example, I currently do better without any dairy protein, grains, or beans, even though some foods from each of these groups are considered "superfoods" for me.  If you know something about yourself that SWAMI doesn't know, go with what you know.  There isn't a rule about how compliant you have to be.  It is simply a tool, albeit a powerful one.

If you'd like to try out the Explorer diet, you can manually change your genotype.  SWAMI will warn you that this isn't the GT it calculated for you, but it will still generate that version of the diet.
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What's in the Typebase isn't "wrong." It's just not as updated as SWAMI is. While parmesan cheese does floccate serum whateveritis for A non secretors in general, it doesn't do that for you personally. Or, it does do that to a small extent, but it has some other, more powerful healing factor that you need right now, and that healing factor outweighs the potential negatives. For Teachers in general, the main focus is on "healing the gut" and there are many cheeses that support  gut health.

The whole point of SWAMI is that it gives you a much more personalized food list than BTD or GTD could ever do. There are only 6 diets in the GTD book and 8 in BTD, and there are more than 14 people in the world!!! Don't worry about what "genotype label" SWAMI spits out- it's not important. That was just a starting point for the diet, and I'm sure your SWAMI varies widely from the Teacher diet in the book.

Now, that doesn't automatically mean that you can handle every SWAMI food right now. You may need to do some more healing before you're able to tolerate any dairy products, for example. It won't harm you if you continue to avoid dairy for now, while implementing the other SWAMI food reccomendations. Then, after a month or a few months, try a small amount of one kind of cheese at a time and see how you do.

Even SWAMI isnt' as complex as the human body. If you know that dairy is bad news for you, then avoid it for now, in spite of what SWAMI says. Almost everybody has at least one kind of dairy product as neutral or better on SWAMI, even O non-secretors who would only get ghee and butter on BTD. Plenty of people can't handle dairy right away. I find that I do best if i stick to only ghee and butter, even though I have a decent list of cheeses to choose from.


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Weren't all of those foods in the Type 4 database tested for the various blood types? If so, how can the results be disregarded?
Yes, they were tested for the blood types, but there is far more to it than that. BTD is working with what you have, GTD is turning on/off gene expression. Both the type base that you seem rather attached to and the program "swami" were written by the same person! Do you really think he would not have some reason for the contradictions? I realize it is a difficult concept to grasp and you seem to want a seamless flowing solution, cut and dry etc. Ain't gonna happen. Swami is taking into consideration all of the information you gave it about you, the type base is generalizing about ABO type. Just because A's in general don't do well on parmesan cheese is sorta like saying "white men can't jump", well, as a matter of fact some of them can.


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It seems to me that if you require every SWAMI rating to match the blood type rating, you have a blood type diet and not a SWAMI diet.

The blood type diet is an excellent system and it may be the right system for you.

For me, I want to benefit from all the research that Dr. D'Adamo has done since releasing the the blood type diet.

So I choose to follow my SWAMI diet. I do not expect all the ratings to be the same since it is a different system.  I get to eat a number of foods that I could not eat before.

The blood type diet worked very well for me, and if SWAMI was not working so well for me I would go back to it.

For me SWAMI works.  I did not eat Parmesan cheese for a while as I transitioned, but I can now without problems. I gave my body time to adjust to the new system before incorporating foods that used to give me problems.

There are a few foods that because of my personal health conditions I do not eat even though SWAMI rates them highly (These foods might cause me to go into a coma--it is simply not worth the risk regardless of what SWAMI says).

So I do not blindly follow SWAMI recommendations, but I am grateful that I can benefit from Dr. D'Adamo's continued research and the new diet systems he has created.


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Benandbecca,
One of the main points of following the concept of eating right for your blood type is that "one size does NOT fit all" ...we are all individually unique.

I started with the BTD then moved on to the GTD due to sinus issues, hoping it would help more. It did, somewhat , so I decided to try Swami. It helped me even more, BUT, it gives me soybeans, soy flour, soy cheese, soy EVERYTHING as superfoods....I cannot eat any of that without a stomach ache! I can tolerate a small amount of organic soymilk in my coffee...thats it. So....I eat everything ELSE on my swami list because they don't bother me! Pretty easy...

Like all the advice said above....give things a try, weed out and watch what happens. We have all been there......


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Quoted from C_Sharp

There are a few foods that because of my personal health conditions I do not eat even though SWAMI rates them highly (These foods might cause me to go into a coma--it is simply not worth the risk regardless of what SWAMI says).


What drugs / poisons do these foods contain?


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Thank you all so much! I really appreciate it! I think I will probably use SWAMI as much as I can, but I still don't understand. More on my continued confusion below.


Quoted from ruthiegirl
What's in the Typebase isn't "wrong." It's just not as updated as SWAMI is. While parmesan cheese does floccate serum whateveritis for A non secretors in general, it doesn't do that for you personally. Or, it does do that to a small extent, but it has some other, more powerful healing factor that you need right now, and that healing factor outweighs the potential negatives. For Teachers in general, the main focus is on "healing the gut" and there are many cheeses that support  gut health.


OK, I understand that there are going to be some foods in BTD and in the GTD that I may not be able to tolerate that are listed as superfoods. That is OK with me. The part that I am not getting is this. I thought that certain foods were tested and that they were avoids for ALL Type A Non-secretors because without a doubt, they caused lectin damage? Is this not true? Are you saying that other genetic factors can wipe out the potential for lectin damage?

I don't want to eat something that is going to cause any lectin damage due to my past history. I am afraid to eat something and see how I feel because my doctor told me that was a big indicator of my health (and it is), but when all was said and done, I was tested after eating an extreme diet, and my body had not healed even though I felt much better. Depending on my health at the time, I can eat certain foods for a while without noticing any negative effects even though that food is bad for me. I don't want to risk that if they are already known to cause Type A's damage.

I just feel like I can't afford to be wrong on this. I read through some of what Lola posted above, and the following statement from Dr. D. on how foods are chose for the GTD seems to contradict what SWAMI is saying:

"If no negative attributes (for example, if the food contains a lectin or is known to encourage bacteria overgrowth, etc) is recorded, then the next step is to see if a case can be built for the food having any specialized benefit (for example, sardines might become a superfood if increasing the amount of RNA nucleotides is desirable; artichokes because they encourage probiotic growth in a strain of bacteria known to be good for a certain blood type). Lacking either of these elements, the food is simply labeled 'food' and considered more or less neutral."  http://www.dadamo.com/B2blogs/blogs/index.php/2010/03/27/hows-and-whys?blog=24

Here is more from the site on lectins: http://www.drpeterjdadamo.com/wiki/wiki.pl/Lectins#Lectins7 The specificity of lectins is so sharply defined that they can differentiate among blood subgroups. Dolichos biflorens lectin reacts more vigorously with blood group Al than A2. Other blood groups can be distinguished by lectins, such as M and N blood types.

I can see how that some lectin issues may be less harmful for me than others with my genetic profile, but to go from a complete Avoid to a Diamond Superfood is just too much of a stretch for me without more info.

Has anyone else ever discussed these same concerns? Is there another thread on this?
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Benandbecca,
I know exactly how you feel.. I've been there too. On my BTD Adiet without any cow cheeses I felt great! Since on BTD since 1999 my eczema disappeared and my kidneyproblems faded!   GTD came and I was allowed to eat the dutch Gouda cheese and buttermilk!!   Okay I thought, I give it a try! After 2 months my kidneys started aching again, and unclear urine   I stopped all cowdairy again and some days later backpain (kidneys!) faded again! I mailed Peter that dairy is not for me! I think you are as lactose-intolerant as I am. This is also a quesion in SWAMI. Fill out that you are lactose-intolerant and you will see change the rating of the cheeses!
I can tolerate pecorino/romano, also the parmesan (I don't eat that one!) and gouda cheeses are neutral. I don't eat them either! Just dutch goatcheese and feta for me. That is all! Everyone is UNIQUE and even if SWAMI is personalized, you yourself are your own SWAMI-designer!   Listen to your body is the key in life!

Take care and stay well!
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^^^Thank you! I really appreciate your understanding! I didn't list that I was lactose intolerant because I don't feel the discomfort that lactose intolerant people feel or fit the profile. I just know that I was almost in a wheelchair with inflammation in my soft tissues in 2007, and when I cut out dairy, I had great improvement. I think there was more to it than dairy, but I just don't do well on dairy. However, I can eat it without noticing any problems (or anything significant) short-term.
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Perhaps my perspective can help you. I can see you are very perplexed. I'm known to be rather laid back about the matter of so-called compliance. Somehow I find that two hypothetical people of utterly identical physical makeup and history - if they followed two different sets of d'adamo rules - might end up with exactly the same diet by testing every suggestion against their own experience: Different roads to the same destination. And some roads take longer than other roads; the SWAMI road contains shortcuts that many feel they need.
I'm a blogger on this site.

I follow the BTD, when I do. But my history with it is a very long one.

In the mid-1990's Peter D'Adamo came out with Eat Right 4 Your Type. I followed that. Then in, what, 2001 or 2 he came out with Live Right 4 Your Type. The new book constituted an advance. One of its breakthroughs in reader benefit was the inclusion of Secretor Status. Now, taking this into account, there were some changes in some of the food values, because foods that had been listed as good for all Bs, say, may really not have been that great for non-secreting Bs, for instance. Or vice versa. Now - mark this - there are also some cases where for reasons unknown to me a food might have changed value for both in an unexpected way. I probably responded much as you're doing now. I probably thought at that point: What the heck is this? Am I believing bait-and-switch hogwash? Because I knew how much truth there was in the work of Dr. D'Adamo, I decided to experiment with the food items that fell into that "What The Heck?!?" category. I just didn't sweat them.

And it's a good thing I didn't, because he later came out with all these other books, and I bought all of them. The books on Diabetes, Arthritis, Allergies, Cancer, etc. And the food values change again, in some cases! But here's where I learned a principle that I think you're starting to understand: Yes. A food with a distinct Avoid-quality for you in a healthy state may actually be beneficial for you under other circumstances. Anyone who takes any kind of herb or drug knows that a substance can be dangerous - even poisonous - but utterly essential or life-saving if used when called for. So I think (and I'm ready to be corrected here by the SWAMI folks, because I don't use SWAMI) that SWAMI is taking into account all of those individual factors of yours and cancelling out the "warnings" on the items you may be needing, even though they would have been Avoids for the generic A1 nonnie. Likewise, SWAMI is showing you that - even though you're an A1-nonnie - there are previously Beneficial items, i.e., generically Beneficial for A1-nonnies, that - given your history and / or condition and /or specific gene-type / performance - are no longer healthful for you... at this time.

Just when I'd been coasting for years on the whole B-secretor diet etc. Peter's The Genotype Diet appeared and threw me for a major loop. The book pegged me quite clearly as a Nomad. It took me many months and a synergistic Ayurvedic program to get some equilibrium about the whole thing. And what it all boiled down to was: Testing the individual items, or categories of items, one by one, at my own pace. If the B-secretor was to favor the soft fresh cheeses while avoiding the harder aged ones, and the Nomad was to favor the opposite state of affairs, then I saw it as up to me to put that to the test.

I have just - in my own mind - created a whole host of new questions for you, I'm thinking. And it's the middle of the night here. PLUS: I'm composing right here on the thread, rather than elsewhere, and transferring it into here - just ad-libbing, that is. And probably rambling.  

Ahhh. There's more to say, but now's not the time. See if this - I don't know - sparks an Aha moment for you. Or see if the Experienced SWAMI folks come out and shoot me down, which - who knows? - my impression (and it is just that, an Impression) may well deserve.

benandbecca: I don't know your particular health picture. Try not to add too much "stress" to your profile about this. Trust that there is a way to get to greater health for both you and your husband and that the work of Peter D'Adamo can certainly play a role in that. And know that you can also address particular health challenges one at a time, under his tent. SWAMI can help you to do that, piecemeal, if your case is complicated. And so can a non-SWAMI D'Adamo program. Believe it and work with it, experiment with it awhile.

Does this help?


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And that is the culprit I think! Short-term can be okay. But intolerances are building up...

The moment I start drinking milk f.e in my coffee,2 days later I get a hideous body-odor... Smelly   combined smelly flocked-white vaginal secretions!
The moment I stop dairy everything is cleared!! So why torment my body with substances my kidneys, skin, can't process and thus dump in my secretions?
As a child I hated milk.. But milk was a staple in Holland and everybody drank it..

I think you will find your balance soon! This BTD/GTD way of life is soo fantastic!
Changed my life dramatically, not only physically, but since then I could gear my emotional and mental life into a happier balance!

Take care BenandBecca!

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A food with a distinct Avoid-quality for you in a healthy state may actually be beneficial for you under other circumstances. Anyone who takes any kind of herb or drug knows that a substance can be dangerous - even poisonous - but utterly essential or life-saving if used when called for.
I think this is true.


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Andrea AWsec
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The book and the SWAMI will not give you the same genotype so let your husband be a Warrior for  awhile. You might find that as he follows his diet he really is more Warrior like  after all.


I can't add much more to what everyone has told you.


Some of this is trust. Dr. D'Adamo is a very wise and wonderful person who has really worked this out for you, try and take a deep breath and let go of some of it.

Being flexible is a good thing.

All dairy is not created equal, some will actually heal your GI tract of years of damage( it contains butyrate like ghee), some will cause inflammation( like blue cheese or milk).

I am an A Warrior and eat some cheeses but not all.  






MIFHI

"Do not try to satisfy your vanity by teaching a great many things. Awaken people's curiosity. It is enough to open minds; do not overload them." Anatole France

"Healthy people have the least overt symptoms from eating avoid foods." Dr. D'Adamo
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I have been on all diets.. I follow each one as is.. eating only superfoods and benficials.. except for coffee which was my only drink.. Then I finally bought cocoa powder.. and drank it and in one hour I knew that it was what I needed to get off the coffee for GOOD.. no more craving..

why am I telling you that?

Because ONE food or one item can and does fix something..  I don't eat fish, so I might be deficient in iodine.. so I bought mecuracrom in red color and put it on my skin every once in a while.. I have no idea if it matters, as the skin will only absorb what it needs..

Or I had a long time ago, given up milk and cured 32 years of stomach pains..

I used clod tar to stop my fingers from peeling.. I used low carbs to lose weight.. I used BTD to heal me from the inside out.. BUT while I was getting better, over16 years, I did not feel euphoric.. now with cocoa I am happy the first time in my life..

You se it is not one thing or another.. like parmesan, I always had some in the house.. always a avoid.. until Swami where some dairy is allowed.. I might have needed the parmesan for flavor, but also for just that much of dairy.. not much but a sprinkle... and I did not know nor feel less inflamed.. yet! I might have been worse had I not eaten it..

So many things are not black and white.. I personally think candida is another whole story.. one that you can pass between husband and wife and create issues.. having said that I would forget about it, and trey to heal ME in other ways.. IT is my belief that if you heal the body then the candida will go away.. like arthritis, it can only get better if all other things are in balance..

would I trust Swami.. YES.. would I trust my own entries into SWAMI not for sure.. Measuring is difficult to understand .. the book made me crazy.. I went and had it done in CT and even then two people did it different.. I am lucky .. I came out gatherer in all ways, yet if I wanted to go crazy I would wonder why only 43 % in my Swami.. what are the others??   oh.. the others could be latened genes of my mom and I would get cancer..   INSTEAD I am gatherer and diabetic..

which to choose.. SWAMI IS NOT about food alone.. it is also about learning about you! about supplements, about waiting to heal.. from the inside.. about understanding interactions between foods.. its about putting all the learning from all the books in one section and then digesting it..

I sort of always reserved the right to ice-cream even though no dairy.. in Swami I am allowed Quark cheese.. in it is cream!.. I found that interesting.. I am not eating any yet, but I can see where it might be ok to some day make my own quark cheese .. fresh .. but my swami talks about very little dairy, so that little bit might be ok, while a little more might be disastrous.. no way I can tolerate milk.. no way I will eat it in a glass, but I might some day indulge in chocolate pudding or rice pudding made with milk.. not today, I am still afraid.. but I can see where there is a possibility, that if I do no more then the portion mentioned, that I might be OK.. I will see in years to come..

I trust DrD and I trust all his diets.. they have all worked.. but when I stopped coffee then I felt happy.. so you see it comes down to one food that might put it all together for you..

all the best.. and just to be sure .. your big frustration is a good thing, we should not ever stop questioning .. with questions come answers, and then you can make 2+2 come out 4.. courage!

I don't know if I made a difference .. but I hope you see the strenght in learning... never give up..  


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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I understand the anxiety of wanting/needing to heal and wanting/needing to know the best course of action, especially when dealing with multiple health issues. I followed the BTD for over ten years and it helped me immensely. I was one of the last of my group to jump on the GTD wagon, then get SWAMI. In fact, I ordered and received SWAMI and it still took another six months or so to finally complete it and use those food lists. I want to mention that *none* of my previous health issues have arisen since eating per SWAMI, even though there are food changes (avoids now being superfoods), which I eat regularly.

When the GTD book first came out, I tested/meaured as a Teacher, then Warrior, then Teacher. I finally enlisted the help of another to measure me and it was confirmed I am a Warrior. I was hung up on the label, as I love to teach!...and I love cheese . But cheese does not love me, even though I don't notice a reaction until days/weeks later.

I know my body better than anyone, so I am my own guinea pig. Just because SWAMI tells me that snails and sardines are diamonds, doesn't mean I have to eat them .

I remember being so sick in the beginning and just wanting someone to tell me what to do/eat, but that's not the way here. As everyone keeps pointing out, it's all about individuality. What works for one, may not work for another who is almost a twin: Andrea AWsec comes to mind .


Let go of resistance; feel appreciation for what is, and eagerness for what is coming.

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ERFYT
  • single valued
  • 'rules based expert system'
  • highly canonical
  • predictive value: good



LRFYT
  • bi-valued
  • canonical
  • 'rules based expert system'
  • predictive value: very good


GTD/SWAMI
  • canonical and non-canonical
  • multi-value complex system
  • predictive value: excellent


SWAMI
  • 'functional/inferential' value system
  • 'initial beliefs' + 'recent objective data' = 'a new and improved belief'

Sorry if this answer seems complicated, but it is the answer.


A whole system is a living system is a learning system.’ -Stewart Brand
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Dr. D, it is a very good answer, the systems become progressively more complex and fine-tuned. I really believe a basic understanding of bio-chem is necessary for anyone who does not wish to just take your word for it.   I did so well on BTD and now swami that I am willing to take your word for it and I've become so interested in what is going on that bio-chem is going to be on my course list even though I don't need it for my degree (but then who knows where I'll end up?).


“Tomorrow is the most important thing in life. Comes into us at midnight very clean. It’s perfect when it arrives and it puts itself in our hands. It hopes we’ve learned something from yesterday.”

John Wayne's last words
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