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DoS
Thursday, March 11, 2010, 5:36pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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How do you all decide where to measure from side to side? If I do it like the picture I get elongated but the widest pat of my head is just above my ears and I get a more brachi but my head is definatly not brachi, inbetween would make sense maybe.
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Thursday, March 11, 2010, 6:06pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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I improvised on the head measurement. I know this doesn't help you much.
I'm having the same problem and not sure how accurate I am. Somebody did
look at my head though and was able to tell me what they thought. I'm not
able to do the same - I just can't tell. Sorry.


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Use the widest part of your head.  
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Quoted from Lloyd
Use the widest part of your head.  


What if it was below your ears? Then what? (it is not on me but just to point that out)

That suggestion is not working. It is talking about the widest part as in if you are looking down on it I believe, not the widest point from straight on. It is where the skull start to go vertical that the arrows point too.

This measurement makes no sense. There needs to be a better way to do it or something...

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I measured what I think was the widest part. I agree that is is kind of hard to tell. I found that taking a photo of the top of my head was very helpful. Makes it easier to see for yourself what the shape really is. (mine looks just like the little brachi sketch in the book, not even remotely egg shaped)

It might also help to have someone with an objective eye measure for you...



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It refers to widest part as in choosing around towards the back, typically where the head has a small lump towards the back. This is from looking down.

The widest does not refer to any of the area between neck and ear or ear to top at all according to the book.

Maybe I answered my own question...
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we had a hard time with this, I believed we wrapped a cord around and then everyone stood over and decided can't say how well we did but sure was fun.


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Hi DoS,

I'm glad you asked because I wanted to share this but didn't want to get a (bigger) head just putting it on here when no one asked.  

Every time I measured my head it was different and I found the book explanation difficult as to where to measure from.  I spent alot of time measuring and looking in mirrors trying to figure this out first.

Thanks to Heidi's idea, took a photo of the top of my head using the webcam and a mirror was easy.  Also took photos of my head in profile.  
Comparing the photos to this great picture from the book by Ripley "the Races of Europe" (It shows the profiles so well), I could tell I am a brachy.



Then how to put that in SWAMI because it asks for length and width measurements.  I saw this info on how to measure the cephalic index.  

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Technically, the measured factors are defined as the maximum width of the bones that surround the head, above the supramastoid crest (behind the cheekbones), and the maximum length from the most easily noticed part of the glabella (between the eyebrows) to the most easily noticed point on the back part of the head. Wikipedia entry from http://www.answers.com/topic/cephalic-index


So I measured the length as close as I could (but you could do the other measurement if you wish and change the formula).  Not sure it changes the diet based on how big your head is but you never know   trying to be accurate anyway!) Then calculated the other number so that the ratio would be 81 to match the Brachycephalic ratio - you will have to change to your head shape).  See formulas below

Original Cephalic Index Formula
(Width x 100) \ Length = cephalic index

Changed to this:
Head Width = (ratio as decimal percentage) x Head Length

The ratio you insert depends on your head shape:
Short Headed (Brachycephalic) = 0.81
Medium Headed (Mesocephalic) = 0.76 - 0.80
Long Headed (Dolichocephalic) = 0.75

Hope that helps!


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picture was huge so had to put in photobucket sorry
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how to put that in SWAMI  because it asks for length and width measurements


swami computes according to the measurements given, no worries!


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G'Day Lola,
Had to do that because every time I measured it was different and I wasn't sure where to measure from and to.  We all know it's important to have the right reading to determine genotype and have the correct diet.

Wow I just installed a theme on my firefox and now the smilies are disappearing and blinking in and out.  Trippy!


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happened to me as well!!
haven t yet figured out how to eliminate the blinking.....am also kind of getting used to it by now.....it has been weeks!


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Whoa!  The forums gone all 70s.  It's disco lights, flares and afro hair.

I searched help and found out where the setting is.   You can uninstall the themes and change them there.

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How to switch themes

After you have installed a new theme:

   1. At the top of the Firefox windowOn the menu bar, click Tools and then select Add-ons. The Add-ons window will appear.
   2. Select the Themes panel.
   3. Select a theme in the list.

http://support.mozilla.com/en-....._themes_and_personas

Going to leave mine on because it's the rolling stones (DH's favourite band) and I want to see his face when he sees it!  


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I don t want to chose a theme or a persona or anything...I simply want the smilies to stop blinking....it is frustrating


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Oh Dear!  I only just got it because I updated to the latest version of firefox and installed a theme at the same time.  I blamed the theme, but now I've gone back to the default theme and the smileys are still flashing.

Wonder if it's the new Firefox 3.6 being buggy?  If so they'll fix it soon.


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thank you, I ll try that option as soon as I find time!
doesn t allow me to click on the default one.....
gggggrrrrrrrrr!!!

hope they do fix it!


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Uninstalling the theme didn't help me.  

Ok I started a new thread on it but the thread was deleted straight away that was weird.  Thought lots of other people might have the same problem.

Mozilla know about it, for version 3.6 only animated gifs and flash videos are playing up all over the internet.  See here http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/forum/1/571812

Until they release the next version, we could always take up drinking or go back to the last version !  
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http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/all-older.html[/url]


It's all related to the thread we're on, it's doing my head in!


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I think measuring down to just above the eyebrow ridge if it made a circle around the head is about right.

I had a friend help and the measurements he got still made me towards a square head but according to swami not enough to make me an Explorer so I get Teacher.

For ever on I think that should be explained to be the widest point as in from eye to back of head, and measure over the top from eyebrow ridge to eyebrow ridge (well just above it).
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I just looked again at the picture with the Genotyping kit and took another photo of the top of my head, including my nose to match the pictures in the kit.  I'm actually between meso and dolichocephalic.  

So I changed the measurements, using my formula to be meso, put it in SWAMI but it hasn't changed my genotype or diet at all  

Those pictures that I found can be misleading it seems, as I have a squarish head from the side.  Everyone's head shape will be different!


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