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ruthiegirl
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Since getting my SWAMI, both of my daughters have expressed interest in eating better. I'm fairly certain that DD1 is a B and that DD2 is an O, but neither have been tested.

DD1 mostly follows a B diet and seems to thrive on the diet, although she does have 15-20 lbs to lose (recently discovered, and she's now working on losing it by exercising more and paying closer attention to portion sizes.) She's 15 and I think she's just about done growing. She may grow another inch in height, but I doubt she'll grow any more than that. She had a HUGE  growth spurt last year, during 8th grade, but I'm not sure she's grown at all in several months.

I know we'd need to do a  blood type test as part of the SWAMI if we don't do it sooner, or she could just continue to follow the BTD (and continue to assume she's a B based on how well she's doing on the diet.) At what age is a SWAMI accurate? Is there a need for a SWAMI if she's doing well on BTD and has no obvious health issues?

I assume that SWAMI would be a waste for DD2 until she's done growing? She's the age DD1 was when she started her huge growth spurt (13.5), so I'm expecting her to grow a lot in the next year or so. Is BTD a better choice at her age?


Ruth, Single Mother to 19yo   O- Leah , 18yo O- Hannah, and  12yo B+ Jack


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first make sure what blood type they are, then have them at least follow their general guidelines in the GT book......they will already be doing better than all other girls their age!!!


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If they have no serious ailments it may not  be necessary at all. Also you could run them through it and later if you suspect a change then re-enter the information or have some changed that is locked by calling SWAMI Tech Support.

It simply seems like it may not be what is needed for them, but rather blood test them at very least. Also if you have the GenoType book you could type them out after the blood test. If anything persists or health problems afterwords then consideration of SWAMI would be more justifiable.
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The protein choices for the B and the O are similar. There would be great rejoicing in the household if I had that combination to feed.


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I have little doubt that I have a quick-sprouting Warrior, and a solidly built Explorer.

My Warrior reached 4 foot before she was 10 and eats like a rabbit; veg and fruit, fruit and veg.  Apart from adding a little protein and making sure she effectively gets six meals a day, there is little that needs attention. The little Explorer requires stretchy material or a v-neck for his tops to accommodate the disproportionately large noggin.  Just like Dad.  

Getting him to eat properly is a chore: bread, wieners, and ketchup are his favorites.  His digestion suffers from eating them, but a slow weaning seems to be the best I can do.  His mom is agrees about the digestion, but prefers convenience to working with the diets.

She has her own Swami.  When will she stop fighting and get it?  

P.S. My slender Warrior is 10 and her brother is 7.  I would expect Warriors to be distinguished by their height between 6 and 9 and Explorers to become apparent at about 6 years.  Explorers my be fat (with poor eating), but the large skull, shoulders and hip structure ought to be evident against other children of the same age.

Even with dermatoglyphics and bone structure being refined by a large user analysis years from now, different GT's may be distinguished at different ages.  Ambiguous children may be typed by pathology clusters, but that is definitely the work for professionals.


My weight loss goal: 220 lbs.  A 6'4" dyslexic oddball: the size of a line-backer, the silhouette of Winnie-the-Pooh.

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Quoted from ruthiegirl

I assume that SWAMI would be a waste for DD2 until she's done growing? She's the age DD1 was when she started her huge growth spurt (13.5), so I'm expecting her to grow a lot in the next year or so. Is BTD a better choice at her age?


Are the two girls very similar in terms of their development - if not the younger one may not grow much more - I was effectively my current height when I was 13 and my shoe size has not changed since then either.  

But unless they are ill just getting them both typed and following BTD would probably go a long way toward a healthy youth.    
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Ruthie the Blood typing cards are so cheap.. yes I know that you have no money for it. But think of the relief you will feel once you know for sure and stop guessing.

Or call the hospital where they were born or the OB/midwife and see if you can get a copy of the blood type record from them.


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Without blood type, there are no recommendations to follow.  Sometimes at health fairs they do free blood typing.  There are many ways to find out blood type inexpensively.  We even took one willing child to the blood donation center for free typing.  We called in advance and got approval for typing only (no donation).

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Quoted from Andrea AWsec
Or call the hospital where they were born or the OB/midwife and see if you can get a copy of the blood type record from them.

None of them had their blood typed as newborns- apparently the insurance companies are trying to save money by cutting out "non-essential" lab tests. It was explained to me that, in the event a blood transfusion was needed, they'd run a  blood typing anyway, and not rely on parental memory, making the newborn blood typing "wasteful". And since neither of their dads ever denied paternity, there was no need to do blood tests for that purpose either.


Ruth, Single Mother to 19yo   O- Leah , 18yo O- Hannah, and  12yo B+ Jack


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Ok so now you need to figure out another way.

So your options are..

Do what Vicki suggests see if you can get it for free.

Get the full birth record and look for yourself.

Buy the kit for $10.00 and type them yourself.

No more guessing Ruthie.. it is making me


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Ah,  but it's not $10. It's $30, since I have three kids. And I can guarantee you, the information is NOT in any of their birth records. I asked about it at the time.

Is there shipping on the blood typing kits, or is it an even $10 per kit?


Ruth, Single Mother to 19yo   O- Leah , 18yo O- Hannah, and  12yo B+ Jack


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If you get it from  me it is $10.00 even plus your ride over if you buy  from NAP it will be $10 plus shipping.

  Each child can pay for themselves with birthday money or you can just do the one that is most motivated, and let the other ones wait till another time.

Jack doesn't need to have it done right now.

Love Dr. D's idea of the excluded middle it applies to so many things in life.


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"Healthy people have the least overt symptoms from eating avoid foods." Dr. D'Adamo
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