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| Ronagon |
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Dr. D had suggested taking phenylalanine in conjunction with calcium, in order to get the calcium to absorb better.
I'm taking Phytocal, but I want to know precisely how much phenylalanine I should take when I take it. Too little won't have a benefit, and too much, I've been reading, will disturb your blood pressure and cause migranes.
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a tbsp of lecithin like in the MFC, daily might do? |
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mikeo,
Thanks... that's good information. I didn't know that.
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What's MFC? |
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MFC = Membrane Fluidizer Cocktail, which is described in both ER4YT and LR4YT. |
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| Friday, July 27, 2007, 11:58pm |
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Hmmm... I didn't notice that. I'll have to check it out... |
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I was surfing this website last night, and I ran across an article by Dr. D'adamo where he was saying that phenylalanine inhibits intestinal alkaline phosphatase, and that's why sweet potatoes & yams were avoid for A's, because they are high in phenylalanine & effectively reduce already low IAP for them.
It might be worth confirming...
I think I did a search for "serum alkaline phosphatase", sorry I don't have the link!
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Kari, Welcome Click on 'Member Center' at the top of this page, then on 'Avatar Settings' on the left, to select an avatar, to share your blood type with us. Add information below your avatar setting, in the 'Profile Information' section, typing in the 'Personal Message box': (Rh+/-, secretor status; subtype A1 or A2, MN blood typing information) Create a Signature that will appear at the bottom of every message you post. Indicate your gender, age, and location in the 'Personal Information' section. http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?b=refread the threads in the Reference Section. |
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Kari, he has also mentioned the opposite to be true, considering the case
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Paradoxically, although phenylalanine inhibits IAP, it also induces further
production of IAP. Since non-secretors don't make very much to inhibit,
the amount induced is more significant, since by the time the IAP is
produced, the amino acid is long gone. I think vitamin A does that as well.
At one point I was going to put it into the Phytocal minerals, but you can't
give it to everybody.
For the more technically inclined, phenylalanine is called an 'uncompetitive
inhibitor'. It only works when the concentrations of the enzyme substrate (IAP and
some fat in this case) is high. On the other hand, the presence of phenylalanine
and fat (but minus the IAP) seems to induce some production of IAP.
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I've been doing phenylalanine 500mg 2/day and can say it is helpful from an energy perspective. One a.m. one noon. If I take it after 4:00, I'm too alert at bedtime, but of course, this is one NS experience. Take care. CB. |
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I started taking the phenylalanine a few days ago and lost about two pounds. It seems that when I do eat meat it causes fluid retention, but not if I supplement with the phenylalanine. Just my observations so far.
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First, red meat and pork are out for us, chicken unless it's organic, I wouldn't touch and frankly based on ocean contamination, I'm reluctant to do fish. The fisheries also have some problems based on location and other things. My bias about non-secretors is that we must call on more primal systems for clearing things from our systems. I occasionally eat chicken or turkey and occasionally fish, but sourcing is a biggy. And now they are going to be pasteurizing our organic almonds. Where does it end. Take care. CB. |
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Hi CB. Maybe you are on a higher plane than me and only eat beneficials.  But I do like lamb and duck, which are neutral for A nonnies. Both can be high fat, especially the duck. I do limit meat to the 2 - 4 servings per week as recommended but I'm finding 500 to 1000 mg of the phenylalanine after a meal to be helpful. And, yes, the damage that greed has done to our food supply is heartbreaking. |
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I don't seem to do well with lamb and haven't tried duck. So I stick with chicken and turkey, but only the number of designated servings per week. How have you found the phenylalanine makes you feel. Take care. CB. |
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| Monday, July 30, 2007, 11:34am |
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CB,
duck is a very greasy meat. If you can't handle lamb, I would guess that you can't handle duck, either. But I could be wrong, of course. Only actually eating it will settle the question. |
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ronnie-o-nonnie, please put the lovely polar bear back on. Take care. CB. |
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| Monday, July 30, 2007, 7:11pm |
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You like the polar bear better? Okay.
I only changed it to this, because Keith at NAP said that my personality reminded him of the little Pixar lamp, always jumping around. |
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CB,
Here ya go. People seemed to like this avatar better than the other one, anyway. |
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Mrs. Rodgers and CB, are you A1 or A2 nons? |
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| Monday, July 30, 2007, 11:22pm |
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Ronnie-o-nonnie, love that polar bear. Now that you have done my wishing, kindly tell me how to put words beneath my AVATAR. I want to put my additional serotyping, but don't want it to appear in the message area, like yours. (I am now forwarding a tap to your shoulder from my majic wand, you are free to do my bidding). Take care and thanks. CB |
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| Monday, July 30, 2007, 11:25pm |
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under profile information...
personal message CB!
in the member center and make sure you press the save button.. |
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Ronnie-o-nonnie, Never mind, I figured it out. I put it in my message area, is that what you did.
Lola, you can see my serotyping beneath my avatar now. Take care. CB.
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thanks CB, I wrote you how, on the post above yours..... |
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Mrs. Rodgers and CB, are you A1 or A2 nons?
I don't know, haven't gone for the more extensive testing. Does it make that much difference? |
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| Tuesday, July 31, 2007, 10:45am |
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Mrs. Rodgers, you are up early for Oregon. One of the differences between A1 and A2 as I recall, is A2 has a more challenging time with carbs. Don't know much about the Lewis double negative (a-b-) or much about the NN for that matter. Take care. CB |
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