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  I had to do it a couple of times to get enough to fill up to the 3 ml line.on?


It took me about an hour to get enough

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Thanks for your replies  

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Is the biting unconscious, or could you make extra sure to refrain from doing this for a couple of days prior to collecting your sample?


It is largely unconscious. I have tried to make an effort to stop when I notice it, but I can feel the roughness where I've been biting and then try to 'smooth' it out by tearing away at it...   I think the primary cause is tension/anxiety; I am a nail biter too, but it is easier to keep my hands busy so they don't end up in my mouth than it is to stop my teeth from tearing at my mouth hehe.
The only time I seem to stop for a few days is when I am away on holiday and everything is taken care of - no worries about work deadlines, study, housework, my son etc etc. Yoga helps to keep me from totally getting stressed out, but doesn't seem to help with the unconscious nibbling. I guess I'll just have to try harder (without getting 'anxious' about it  )

Rinsing with fresh cold water is going to be very painful - I have a sensitive tooth which reacts strongly to both hot and cold, according to my dentist there is nothing wrong with it and he even replaced the filling last time I went, but it has made no difference. The sensitivity seems to originate at the gum line and is worse if I have a cold or hayfever - dunno what that is about, but anyway I can rinse with lukewarm water and I don't have a problem generating saliva, so it shouldn't be too detrimental to use lukewarm rather than cold water I guess.

Thanks again,

Eka


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Rinsing with fresh cold water is going to be very painful - I have a sensitive tooth which reacts strongly to both hot and cold, according to my dentist there is nothing wrong with it and he even replaced the filling last time I went, but it has made no difference. The sensitivity seems to originate at the gum line and is worse if I have a cold or hayfever - dunno what that is about, but anyway I can rinse with lukewarm water and I don't have a problem generating saliva, so it shouldn't be too detrimental to use lukewarm rather than cold water I guess.


I had a tooth that was sensitive since I had it capped 2 years ago and the dentist said the same thing, he couldn't find anything.  

In the 2 weeks since I've been on the diet, the sensitivity has gone away, along with bleeding gums.  YAY!
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That's called bruxation or grinding your teeth.  Don't know the cause but if you don't get a night guard soon your dental bills will go up due to losing enamel and cracked teeth.  I know because my Dentist calls me the Bruxer King!


I have just had a tooth extracted that was cracked on the inside in two places and palpating (moving) in the root socket (whatever it's called).  It was causing infection and swelling in my gums, not to mention the pain.  So it was decided that the tooth, after root canal verified the cracks that imaging could not pick up, had to go.  Now I have a bone graft placed under the gum and have to wait 3 months for enough of that to grow before they can place an implant.  This is the first time I've had this done.  Not that you asked about all this (sorry to gross you out)...but I find it interesting that you say bruxation can lead to cracked teeth.  It could every well be that my bruxating weakened that tooth.  I've tended to just forget about it, and I've never mentioned it to my dentist or periodontist.  I will definitely mention it when I see him in a week or so and ask him about a night guard.  Thank you for bringing this up!
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It took me about an hour to get enough



I can believe it.  I kept rinsing and waiting and spitting, trying to do everything quickly so I could hurry up and seal the vial and run over to FedEx the same day I received the kit.
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Quoted from Ekalia
Thanks for your replies  



It is largely unconscious. I have tried to make an effort to stop when I notice it, but I can feel the roughness where I've been biting and then try to 'smooth' it out by tearing away at it...   I think the primary cause is tension/anxiety; I am a nail biter too, but it is easier to keep my hands busy so they don't end up in my mouth than it is to stop my teeth from tearing at my mouth hehe.
The only time I seem to stop for a few days is when I am away on holiday and everything is taken care of - no worries about work deadlines, study, housework, my son etc etc. Yoga helps to keep me from totally getting stressed out, but doesn't seem to help with the unconscious nibbling. I guess I'll just have to try harder (without getting 'anxious' about it  )

Rinsing with fresh cold water is going to be very painful - I have a sensitive tooth which reacts strongly to both hot and cold, according to my dentist there is nothing wrong with it and he even replaced the filling last time I went, but it has made no difference. The sensitivity seems to originate at the gum line and is worse if I have a cold or hayfever - dunno what that is about, but anyway I can rinse with lukewarm water and I don't have a problem generating saliva, so it shouldn't be too detrimental to use lukewarm rather than cold water I guess.

Thanks again,

Eka


I would think whatever temperature you can tolerate would be fine.  Just wanted to mention that the increased sensitivity during a cold or hayfever could be because the tooth is very close to your sinus cavity (is it an upper tooth?).  The one I just had extracted is right next to my sinus cavity on my upper right cheek.  When I had a sinus infection, that was when I started having really bad pain in my tooth, but I think it was all just coincidental, too.  Also wanted to say that even making yourself more conscious of what you're doing in this way - posting about it - is probably going to help.  I don't mean to butt in but I have found deep breathing exercises very calming when I feel tense.  Especially when I gave up smoking!  I could not have done it without conscious deep breathing.  It might help you, too, Eka.
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I can believe it.  I kept rinsing and waiting and spitting, trying to do everything quickly so I could hurry up and seal the vial and run over to FedEx the same day I received the kit.


I didn't rinse in between every "deposit".  I did what it said to begin with and then just didn't swallow until I had enough.  Being a perfectionist,   I had to fill the tube!  
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Quoted from Ekalia

It is largely unconscious. I have tried to make an effort to stop when I notice it, but I can feel the roughness where I've been biting and then try to 'smooth' it out by tearing away at it...   I think the primary cause is tension/anxiety; I am a nail biter too, but it is easier to keep my hands busy so they don't end up in my mouth than it is to stop my teeth from tearing at my mouth hehe.

This makes me think that there is the possibility of a mineral deficiency.  Possibly Dr. D's Phyto-Cal for type A's http://www.4yourtype.com/prodinfo.asp?number=BT008A
or a bottle of trace minerals from ocean water.  

It could be some other type of nutritional deficiency, also.  Those of you who work with livestock or dogs, are you familiar with which thing can cause animals to chew on themselves?  

(I'm not comparing you to an animal.    Just trying to revive an old memory that I can't seem to bring up.)



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Eka,
guess what made me stop biting the inside of my mouth?

all these tiny lines I noticed on my upper and lower lips....

think they re called smoker lines!!!! UGLY!!!!

bite your lip while watching yourself in front of a mirror.....
that will make you stop the practice asap!


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Victoria, I've had dogs that chewed themselves, causing "hot spots" where they keep licking until there is no fur and a raw area develops on the skin, but that has usually been because of allergies...yes, dogs also get allergies, causing their skin to itch, sometimes due to grain in their food (I give my dog a grain-free brand of kibble), or sometimes due to other things - maybe a thorn or burr or even a tick, or perhaps because of anxieties (usually helped by a good daily romp/walk/exercise).  I have not heard of chewing on themselves because of a mineral deficiency, although I'm no vet or expert.  I'd like to know more about that.  My dog eats grass, and I can't seem to get a handle on why.  I try to sneak some green veggie into her diet but she won't take it.  Anyway, have totally gone off topic on a tangent now, so sorry.  
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Quoted from Victoria

This makes me think that there is the possibility of a mineral deficiency.  


I used to grind my teeth at night.  I started taking magnesium for other reasons and the grinding stopped.  

I need to get back to taking magnesium for many reasons.  I think I am not grinding my teeth anymore, but I am clenching them in my sleep.  My teeth are cracking.  

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Wow, lots of options there.

I will start taking my multivits and minerals again - its probably a good time to do that with the evenings getting darker and exams coming I do tend to feel 'deficient' in the Winter months, so being pro-active will probably help  

Lola - yes I have stated to notice little lines on my upper lip that look like smoker lines (have never been a smoker) - and having seen myself in the mirror when biting it really ought to motivate me to stop, thinking about that regularly should help  

O in Virginia - Yes the tooth is an upper one, I guess the sinus cavity is a little closer to the nerve than is comfortable

labrat - lucky you   unfortunately being on BTD has not made a difference to this tooth which has been sensitive for about 3 years now, BTDing for 5 months perhaps I need to be more compliant...


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Following up:  Just received my secretor status (NEWS FLASH!):  Nonnie.

Now I must read more.
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unfortunately being on BTD has not made a difference to this tooth which has been sensitive for about 3 years now, BTDing for 5 months perhaps I need to be more compliant...

There are some issues that may take longer than 5 months to heal even when you are very compliant...  It depends on your history prior to BTD...


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Following up:  Just received my secretor status (NEWS FLASH!):  Nonnie.

Now I must read more.

Now you can fine-tune your diet for better health...  Good that you found out.


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Following up:  Just received my secretor status (NEWS FLASH!):  Nonnie.

Now I must read more.


Hey, that's not fair!  You sent yours after mine and mine's not done yet!  Bummer!  

Don't forget to change your avatar!
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There are some issues that may take longer than 5 months to heal even when you are very compliant...  It depends on your history prior to BTD...


Rut Roh!  That means I have 45 years of healing to do!  OH MY!
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Following up:  Just received my secretor status (NEWS FLASH!):  Nonnie.

Now I must read more.


Welcome to the club!!!


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Hey, that's not fair!  You sent yours after mine and mine's not done yet!  Bummer!  

Don't forget to change your avatar!


Did you check this afternoon?  If it's not there I'll bet it will be tomorrow.
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Did you check this afternoon?  If it's not there I'll bet it will be tomorrow.


Can't check till I get home, the info is at home.  Maybe it won't be there, there was one member who said he and his wife sent them in on the same day and got results 4 days apart.

No problem, I'll find out when I find out.
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read the Garland thread

it mostly doesn t take that long to see results
http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?b-storybd/m-1276020101/


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Following up:  Just received my secretor status (NEWS FLASH!):  Nonnie.

Now I must read more.


Welcome O in Virginia to the nonnie club.  Yep...lots of reading to do in the clubhouse as well.  

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Welcome to the club!!!

Thanks!  I'll try not to be too pesty to my fellow nonnies with my new questions.  



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Welcome O in Virginia to the nonnie club.  Yep...lots of reading to do in the clubhouse as well.  

Debra

Thank you.  I'll be right over.  
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Great news Virginia- you can have coconut oil, lentils, and avocados. And by knowing what you need to avoid, you have the opportunity to do some real healing now.


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Great news Virginia- you can have coconut oil, lentils, and avocados. And by knowing what you need to avoid, you have the opportunity to do some real healing now.

You don't know how happy I am to be able to eat avocados!  I was missing those.  Don't know what to do with coconut oil???  Cooking, flavoring?  I love coconut meat but I can live without it.  Lentils are yummy.  I've always enjoyed those.  
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