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Nadira
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I was diagnosed with ADD at the tender age of 45.  I was given Ritalin which seemed like a god-send, as I was able to actually focus long enough to read a whole paragraph of text in my graduate studies.  I'm also a musician, and was able to play through a whole concert without making any stupid mistakes.

Almost twenty years have passed, and I'm still taking Ritalin, but not as much as I used to.  I've been on the BTD for 2 years now, but have had periods of compliancy and non-compliancy.

I've been compliant now for about 5 months, and have recently been trying to go sugar-free and low grain.

I finally got to reading "Live Right 4 Your Type", came across insulin resistance, and said 'That's me!'  And also, though I can't find where, it says that the caffeine from coffee, as well as stimulant drugs are associated with cortisol resistance, which causes more obesity, which causes more insulin resistance.  Ahah!  That's why I've been gaining weight over the years.  As well as, of course, not getting enough exercise.

So my question is, what do I do to be able to focus, while trying to fight off the insulin resistance?  I'm completely off of wheat, and eating as many Super-beneficials (according to my Menopause and Aging books.)

Thanks in advance for any help you can lend.
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But if I decide to give up the Ritalin, what can I take or eat that will help my neurotransmitters go to the right place?
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But if I decide to give up the Ritalin, what can I take or eat that will help my neurotransmitters go to the right place?

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Trehalose Complex may also help as it stimulates cellular cleaning to help cells clean up and work better.
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I think the cortisol story is depending merely on our A & B's friends... O's and AB's share a certain preference for higher catecholamines ....

I'd have a look and quit Ritalin as quick as possible there are several things about this stuff... yiikes...and I'd merely go or for Gaba or other aminoacids in higher amounts to get your neurotransmitters settled .... this isn't meant disrespectively... in contrary ...
If I remember it well ther's an US-organisation who helps people tapering off all kinds of such medications... sorry I don't remember their names anymore... so far perhaps would you want to give a try with google....


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oum sigh might be... complete of mine   ... but hey thanx anyway for the helping hand but ok I wasn't aware that those also use a DNA program to evaluate how peeps are able to metabolize such chemical bombs... this must be new I think... I only was aware that they've had a tremendious success by helping peeps in comeing along to go off those meds but merely in psychological sustains...... I think this bunch also would be fine for Switzerland ... as well ....


and sorry I always get a sort of .....**....*** while taking notice of such *diagnosis* I think merely a fine approach to get peeps under control.....no.. !  
I observed a fine title lately in our newspaper: how psychaters and psychologues come along with overloading...doing  *goodies* to patients...clients... and in reality all this...those issues were or related to wrong nutrition or behaviouristic patterns...trained from youth...hmmm


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and something else to think about: the book *gifts differing* from Briggs-Myers entre-autre, shows up that almost SP-stylers do have the most complex situation in learning styles coz they 're peeps of *action*... and alot is confonded with so called: ADD or ADHS (btw for my opinion nothing but a for pharma-lobbyists )... coz if you can catch their attention adequately to their style, you'll get wonderful and calm listeners... but you need to get adapted...and malheureusamente none of our teachers here in EU-countries are neither willing nor able to come along with more time and intense trainings... ...so easier to *treat* people for a so called sickness, giving even a form of feeling of inferieuity and....and...and.... indeed they are nothing but ok in their own style of her/his being....


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I have two close friends that teach public elementary school. They live on opposite sides of the country and have never met.

One has stated that all children should be given these drugs because the classroom is frequently out of control. She has a personality that I would describe as perpetually overwhelmed. Her students perform below average for her somewhat impoverished school district, with low supplementary meal standards offered by the state.

The other has stated that no children should be given these drugs because it undermines her ability to reach each child in their natural learning style. She has a personality that I would describe as decisive. Her students perform well above average for her school district. Also somewhat impoverished, but with a high standard of meal supplementation offered by the state.

There are probably extreme cases where nothing else works, and there are people who contribute to this forum who have had good results with drugs like these. But to prescribe them in the huge numbers that they are, before exhausting dietary and environmental corrections, suggests an incompetence of the system that allows it.  The way they're prescribed to children is just criminal in my opinion.


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I think that drugs have their place. In acute situations, where you don't have time to wait for natural remedies to kick in, drugs can literally be life-saving. In those cases, start with the drugs, but as soon as possible ALSO implement dietary changes, supplements, etc, with the aim of keeping drug doses low and weaning off them as soon as it's safe to do so. (Inherent in that is the idea that you keep using meds indefinitely if it's not safe to stop.)

Another good use of drugs is when you've been patient, living with the unpleasant symptoms while implementing diet, supplement, and lifestyle strategies. Many times, these things help, but not always enough. Sometimes, after you've tried everything, the best course of action is to keep on using the natural treatments and also add medication. In these cases, the drugs often work well at lower doses than "normal." Lower doses usually mean fewer side effects, and "using a variety of modalities" typically means that any side effects are treated naturally, not with a cocktail of more and more drugs.

That strategy works for any kind of issue- behavioral, psychological, or a straight physical problem.


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Averno dearle, ther's a beautiful sheet from Prof.Keirsey' about this thema called :*abuse it or loose it* ...


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Averno dearle, ther's a beautiful sheet from Prof.Keirsey' about this thema called :*abuse it or loose it* ...


Should be required reading for every parent handed a prescription for their child.

http://www.keirsey.com/drugged_ob.aspx

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You made it this far... good for you!

Ok..... No I do not like drugs.... I have taken Thousands over my lifetime with pain...

There are three answers to the question within this thread...

To take the meds that has helped you to cope with life - as you found them helpful-

To not take the pills because that might be the prevailing thinking here, and have you sliding back into a unmanagble life.

To do the next best thing you can do and do it with your mind and thinking being that of your own Discovery.

There is no one here that ought to suggest any of the above... Not even me... In the end you are the one living in your life - deciding every day what is good for you or not.

If I had to live with my pain for all the years I suffered, I would have preferred to jump off a cliff...

If I could have chosen between this drug or that supplement and gotten the same results, which I actually did at some point, then so be it... but IN absence of not knowing what will work I spent Years and Years of suffering, and spending endless money - 99% to no avail.

I have brought up two children with severe ADD or ADHD... the label does not matter- the cure to that way of existing is what is important.  I generally do not subscribe to Ritalin... and I am not one to go for the heavy duty stuff... BUT at least in one case the lack of help (no meds) cost that person a shot at going to college and or a future which otherwise could have provided her with a carefree way of life.  Is the price of Ritalin worth that Loss????   Everyone answer those themselves.  The loss of self esteem, the loss of money and school investment is enormous.  

What good are supplements, if you can NOT afford them?  What guarantee do you have that even one of them will work?  Who here would guarantee and pay for the first 50 dollars for you to try it.  Who here would pay for all the associated losses if their approach fails?   I will tell you--- NO one.. You are on your own.

OK so :  You are afraid getting Diabetes and 50% guarantee for Alzheimer’s???

Well ... I can nearly guarantee that you will get it...

So. If that is the case... look at the world the way it is.... make your own decision on what might be good for you. and this might be the right way to go.

First:  go on the diet for diabetes... and aging also to prevent Alzheimer’s...   and as you get healthier with the food...  then you make new decisions.  

I agree with someone above... try Trehalose Complex - it will help your brain to get cleaned up from all the pills or avoid foods you had throughout your life.  

As for diabetes... find out from your doctor if you will have the type of diabetes where you just take a pill every day... or actually will need insulin. That might make the issues lighter to learn about.

Then for the next few years, you will get used to the idea and when it will come to pass, you will be ready for it.  From my own experience:  I think I pushed out Diabetes by 15 years... with BTD foods... I also am much healthier because of the 20 years of being on BTD... Being healthier makes adherence to diabetes foods much easier.   Also over time I got better in many ways...

For instance I took Threhalose Complex and felt less depressed (blue like) after the fist spoon full... worth a try...

As for dropping weight, you will especially at the beginning when you give up the damaging foods like wheat and the like,,    so keep up the good work: IT's Worth it!!!

As for the description of your self... female over 40!!! so what... if that is all there is to life.... so keep on dancing... a good song...   and the idea of a daily walk is the best advise I could give to you..

All the best,, been there done it all... but yet today I am happier than ever...  

(P/s I got cancer recently- I had no choices either-- such things just come along with living a long time... so come on lets dance... its good exercise!


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Averno and Amazon, you clearly have no idea what it is like to be an ADULT with ADD who has struggled her whole life.  I have been considered a loser for 50 years.  Yeah, maybe if I had been diagnosed 50 years ago and given medication then, maybe I could have "grown out of it".  But I didn't.

In case you didn't read my first post, I've been off of wheat for 2 years.  That's 24 months.  I'm trying to go sugar-free and grain free also.  Clearly I should not be doing that at the same time that I'm trying to figure out if there is anything else out there that will help me with my ADD symptoms.  Yeah, while you're at it, maybe you could get me a high-paying job that I can work while dealing with ADD symptoms.  Yeah, no one is hireing anyone with ADD symptoms.

Thank you to ruthiegirl and Goldie.  You have a much better idea.
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Averno and Amazon, you clearly have no idea what it is like to be an ADULT with ADD who has struggled her whole life.  I have been considered a loser for 50 years.  Yeah, maybe if I had been diagnosed 50 years ago and given medication then, maybe I could have "grown out of it".  But I didn't.

In case you didn't read my first post, I've been off of wheat for 2 years.  That's 24 months.  I'm trying to go sugar-free and grain free also.  Clearly I should not be doing that at the same time that I'm trying to figure out if there is anything else out there that will help me with my ADD symptoms.  Yeah, while you're at it, maybe you could get me a high-paying job that I can work while dealing with ADD symptoms.  Yeah, no one is hireing anyone with ADD symptoms.

Thank you to ruthiegirl and Goldie.  You have a much better idea.


No disrespect meant to you, Nadira. My apologies for not making clear that you were not being judged for your condition. You, and others as mentioned on this board, may very well fall into the "extreme case" column. This is a learning environment, and ideas are often expanded upon and veer away from the original posters questions while exploring the big picture. The danger of Ritalin over-prescription is pointedly discussed here and elsewhere, and it appears that you wish to find an alternative to it. There is much to learn, and we can help.

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