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ABJoe
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The neurologist found "nothing wrong" and refused to order any additional testing- no MRI, no nerve conductivity test, no repetition of any blood work. So, do I take this at face value, or do I see the PCP again and demand more testing?

Things were definitely much worse a month ago when I first made the appointment. Since that time, I made a few changes to my diet and increased my exercise. Since it's getting better, maybe I should just stop worrying and trust that it's just some random symptom of detox?

Also, do I continue the few dietary changes I made?

1) For a while (right before the numbness started) I was drinking 2oz of red wine every night. Prior to that, I was having 2-3 ounces of red wine once per week. The red wine was good for my digestion, but I suspect it may have exacerbated the numbness. So I stopped drinking wine nightly, but continued to have red wine on Shabbos when there was nobody else to make Kiddish (blessing over wine) for me. I have no problem with only drinking wine on Shabbos and holidays and NOT resuming the nightly wine drinking.

2) I switched to a sulfate-free wine. It's more expensive and doesn't taste as good. Are the sulfates all that toxic in such small amounts?

3) I cut out nutritional yeast from my diet, even though SWAMI has it as a diamond. I don't want to omit this delicious, nutrient-dense food from my diet unless I truly have to.

It sounds like the neurologist just ruled our a big issue.  Kind of like when the dentist told me that he could find nothing wrong with my TMJ to justify the clicking/popping in it.  Basically, it is a clue to look elsewhere, although the immediate direction may be unclear.

If it were me, I would continue the dietary and exercise changes you have made.  It doesn't cost anything and it may be enough of an answer to see marked improvement over time.

You ask if the small amount of sulfates can have that large an effect.  I say, "Yes, they can."  I am still surprised at how much just the energy of corn syrup bothers me.  I get a headache from touching a jelly filled doughnut through a napkin.


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But I've been  buying sulphite-containing grape juice and wine for years, and having anywhere from one sip to half a  glass once or twice a week. I avoid all other sulphites, but it's really hard to find kosher grape juice/wine without it, and we use grape juice for Shabbos and holidays.

I'm still perplexed as to how something that's been in my diet for years could suddenly be causing problems.


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It might not hurt to try the P5P that Karen suggested in her post above.  That was an interesting article that was attached.  I have a little carpal tunnel in my right wrist and I may try it.
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Quoted from ruthiegirl
But I've been  buying sulphite-containing grape juice and wine for years, and having anywhere from one sip to half a  glass once or twice a week. I avoid all other sulphites, but it's really hard to find kosher grape juice/wine without it, and we use grape juice for Shabbos and holidays.

I'm still perplexed as to how something that's been in my diet for years could suddenly be causing problems
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Perhaps it's called - turning 40 Perimenopause can add all sorts of complications to "things we have been doing for years"

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I'm still perplexed as to how something that's been in my diet for years could suddenly be causing problems.

Is it suddenly causing problems, or has it been causing some problem for a long time, but built up the amount to a point where it is now causing this problem?  I ask this somewhat rhetorically, as I don't know the answer, and doubt whether you do either, but it is something to think about.


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I was eating corn for decades and would have sworn that it never bothered me until I started on the BTD. After I left it off, it was so very obvious that it was causing me plenty of problems if I ate any of it whatsoever. Same exact thing with yogurt. Even the tiny bit of alcohol in the Bach remedies bothers me. The inside of my lips will get a lumpy rash if I use the spray. It hasn't stopped me from using it occasionally because sleep is more important to me than a rash. Drops in water don't bother me as much. Just thought I would mention these things.....


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Similar story here Spring... My husband used to eat a banana every day with no problems until he stopped & now he can't tolerate them   
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If it's not sciatica, disk problems, diabetes, b12 deficiency, lyme disease, or something you are eating, it could be how you are sleeping at night.  I get tingling in my legs and feet and I finally noticed that when I wake up I sometimes have red pressure points around my knees or ankles and sometimes my hands and arms.  I may be laying there like a dead weight and not shifting position while I sleep and putting too much pressure on a nerve for hours. I know people sleep with a pillow between their knees to help with back pain and it might also keep one from putting too much pressure on nerves or cutting off circulation while sleeping.  Just a thought.
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I've been sleeping with a pillow between my legs for years, and I'm constantly rolling over and  shifting positions while I sleep. Hmm... maybe the pillow has gotten too flat to be useful and I should swap it out with a fluffier pillow?


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Ruthie,
How old is your mattress?  Maybe you need a new one.  I used to wake up with lower back pain until I bought a new mattress.  The numbness and tingling in my wrist was also from bending it back when I slept.  Now I wear a carpal tunnel brace on it when I sleep.
I once had an orthopedic surgeon tell me that anyone over 35 who had ever played sports probably had some kind of disc issue and as we age and shrink the spaces get smaller and start to bother you more impinging on different nerves.  Chiropractic helps more than meds....
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If I stand too long, put too much strain on my lower back, or any number of other things, my legs tingle, my feet go into crazy cramps, etc., etc.. My feet are tingling this AM because I stood for hours yesterday working in the yard. No cramps yet, though. If I don't overdo things I have no problems.


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My mattress is over 10 years old and there is NO money in the budget to replace it right now. That could certainly be a contributing factor.


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AIS achieves remarkable results by pumping the lymph and blood throughout the tissues.  Venous (blood) and lymphatic (immune) systems require active muscle contraction to do their job.  If there is no activity in the muscle, fluid will build up and the tissue will become stagnant.  You’ll notice this if you get up after sitting for a long time and your body feels stiff.  With AIS every stretch acts to create a vascular (circulatory) flush, which pushes the fluid (blood, lymph etc.) out of the area being stretched.  Then when the stretch is released shortly thereafter, the muscle relaxes and the fluid (blood, lymph etc.) rushes back in, delivering fresh blood and oxygen to reinvigorate and repair the tissues in the area.  

Your nervous system also benefits from reduced tension and reeducation via repeated stretching through exact planes of motion.  AIS often creates instant changes in the joints and soft tissues.  It also acts as an entry-level exercise program, increasing joint stability, allowing for deeper relaxation of the tissues, and resetting joint awareness.


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I've been sleeping with a pillow between my legs for years, and I'm constantly rolling over and  shifting positions while I sleep. Hmm... maybe the pillow has gotten too flat to be useful and I should swap it out with a fluffier pillow?


Ruth I found the fluffy ones just crash, so I use two hard flat ones in a single king size pillow case.


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My mattress is over 10 years old and there is NO money in the budget to replace it right now. That could certainly be a contributing factor.


Do you have a sheet of plywood under it? If not that might help.


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Ruth, have you seen a chiropractor about this?  And there are numerous different kinds of chiropractors now.  Not all are like the yank and crack variety that we used to have to see in years past.



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Just wondering if it comes and goes.  I've had something like this but mostly in Large Toes and toe next to it and same on hands.  I was at the Doctors and she had someone who works with Reiki and joints sitting in who tested a few ideas out on me and showed me that some joints shoulder/hip are a little loose and curving in which then pulls on something causing the numbness.  She showed me some exercises to do but it still comes back, but I think she is right.  I need to check in with her again.
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I haven't been to a chiropractor in over a year, possibly closer to two. The one I used to see regularly stopped her local practice, and I never did get around to calling up the chiro she recommended to take her place. There just hasn't been ANY spare money, and I don't know if a new chiro would work out the kind of financial deal the old one did (first she didn't raise the cost of the "family wellness plan" for us when she raised it for the rest of her clients, then, when I couldn't even swing that, she'd adjust all 4 of us for the price of one adjustment.)

I've had a lot of pain in my lower back/pelvis the whole time I've had the numbness in my legs- in fact, the back pain was there first. If this is caused by a compressed nerve, I'm sure it's in my pelvis.

I'll definitely take a much closer look at those exercises PC posted, but I really don't have time for it today. I did look at the first video and did about 2 minutes worth, but I have a ton of things to do today and can't do the whole thing right now. I won't have time to really start that until after Rosh Hashonna- so next Wed.


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I haven't been to a chiropractor in over a year, possibly closer to two. The one I used to see regularly stopped her local practice, and I never did get around to calling up the chiro she recommended to take her place. There just hasn't been ANY spare money, and I don't know if a new chiro would work out the kind of financial deal the old one did (first she didn't raise the cost of the "family wellness plan" for us when she raised it for the rest of her clients, then, when I couldn't even swing that, she'd adjust all 4 of us for the price of one adjustment.)

I've had a lot of pain in my lower back/pelvis the whole time I've had the numbness in my legs- in fact, the back pain was there first. If this is caused by a compressed nerve, I'm sure it's in my pelvis.



Your old chiropractor sounded like a treasure - how great that she treated you and your family so well!!  This is sounding more and more like this is subluxation or something similar.

I'm remember some old discussions we've had about the Egoscue Method of spinal care.  I believe Balletome knows a lot about it.  A couple of other folks on the forum, too, but I don't recall names.  I once checked out one of the books at my local library - very much worth the time to at least scan over the exercises and try to do a few regularly.  No need to read the entire books.



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A friend just loves the Egoscue(ot however you spell it) method. Maybe you can get the book from the library.
Happy Holidays! I hope you can enjoy those yummy compliant foods you described somewhere & stay off the wrong things.


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