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Vkoslin
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Been following Warrior genotype diet after getting SWAMI. Here are my experiences 4 weeks in, as well as questions. Hopefully it'll help other Warriors and myself.

Background info: I'm female, 25 years old, 185 pounds, 6'1 tall. I carry most of my weight at my lower abdomen.

Experience: I have eaten only vegetables, some trout and some tuna. I ate a sausage-stuffed chicken for dinner one night and got very sick (digestively) later. Hmm, interesting. Two weeks later, had a bite of gumbo. A combination of a few no-no's: tomatoes, green bell peppers, and sausage and had the same result.

Interesting that I'm already noticing intolerances I've never noticed before? Is that even typical?

I've followed many diets in my past, and as Dr. D puts it, my fad dieting never really worked. The thing is, I lost 60 lbs on a no-carb diet. And it's basically eating under 20 carbs a day...meat, cheese, lettuce. No fruit, Not much veggies. Obviously it's not a healthy option, but how can eating all the "bad" things Dr. D suggested help me lose that much weight?

I guess now that I think about it, I feel much better in general on this new warrior diet. The problem is, as it's always been, giving me the freedom to carbs. I don't believe I over-do it by any means. But, a cup of brown rice with a meal, two pieces of whole grain or sprouted bread with a sandwich, fruit, etc. I think has made me gain weight

I wish I could believe that carbs were good for me, even the ones Dr. D suggests. But, my body just doesn't agree...I think. Any ideas?

Let's keep this going with other Warrior experiences. I need something to believe in!


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try swami....more personalized


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I'm sorry I didn't mention- I am on SWAMI


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up those beneficials and watch frequency values

did you mention any kind of physical activity you ve been practicing routinely?

all is factored into swami in accordance with your issues, age, activity level etc


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I'm a special education teacher- self contained. Changing clothes/diapers/chasing run-a-ways is a part of my description. So, as that, I'm exhausted after school and rarely work out. I know it's a huge problem, but motivation/time is elsewhere.

I guess another part of my bio: I have a 37" inseam (EXTREMELY long legs), played basketball and ran track throughout my teenage years. Went to college, stopped being as physical, and at 25 years old, 40 lbs heavier, although not considered unhealthy. (on the contrary, was underweight then).


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Did you let SWAMI calculate your genotype? Some people on SWAMI end up with a different "genotype label" than they calculate from the back of the book. Usually, this results in only subtle changes to the actual food list, but sometimes those small changes make big differences.

Secondly, are you eating the portion sizes as recommended in SWAMI? That's one of my two biggest challenges, as I'm apt to overeat when left to my own devices. If you feel you've gained weight from eating too many carbs- the first thing to check is to see if you're actually eating more carbs than SWAMI suggests in the first place. Perhaps you should be eating fewer carbs and more beans and veggies. As a Gatherer, I need to really keep the carbs in check; as a Warrior, fats might be a bigger concern.

Thirdly, and onto the other of my two biggest challenges, is exercise. Even a small amount of exercise can reap big rewards, especially when it's consistent. Do you have the energy after work for a 10 minute walk or a 10 minute yoga video? Start small, and you can always build up from there.

Have you actually gained weight, or have you simply failed to lose weight? There's a difference. You can't "force" the weight loss- you can eat right and exercise, but it's up to your body to actually let go of that excess fat. If your body decides to do some other healing first, there's nothing (healthy) you can do to speed up that process. You just need to keep on doing your part and have faith that the weight will come off when it's healthy to do so.

Once you've been doing everything "right" for a while- the portions AND the exercise recommended in SWAMI, if the weight is still stubborn you may need to tweak things a little. You might want to cut back on carb portions and/or increase portions elsewhere- but don't try that until you've been on SWAMI "as directed" for a few weeks to see how well it works for you.


Ruth, Single Mother to 19yo   O- Leah (in Israel for the school year), 17yo O- Hannah, and  12yo B+ Jack


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I'm a special education teacher- self contained. Changing clothes/diapers/chasing run-a-ways is a part of my description. So, as that, I'm exhausted after school and rarely work out. I know it's a huge problem, but motivation/time is elsewhere..


One way I get around that too tired to workout thing we A's have is to walk during my lunch hour.  Fresh air and sunshine are very important for health just as much as food and water is.
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God, a lunch hour sounds wonderful No, no lunch break here. Or planning period. Welcome to Alabama...schools are broke and can't afford support to give teachers a break!

Ruthie,
I did let it calculate my genotype- Warrior 44%. The book previously had also said Warrior, although close to Gatherer. When I read about Warriors, there was no doubt.

Portions are so easy to keep small during the day (because I have no break to eat)...but dinner, well, I eat until I'm full and then some. :/

I will start exercising. I truly just needed the motivation


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And, sorry, to answer the question about gaining weight- I can literally step on the scale every morning and it be 2 lbs different (more and less) than the previous day. I swear my weight varies daily from 185 to 190 in the mornings and even 195 at a doctor appointment midday. SOOO discouraging.


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The few pounds weight variation is normal. A number of years ago, I got on the scale about 5 times a day for a few days to track this variation. I typically weigh my lowest first thing in the morning, especially if I can manage to have a bowel movement before drinking anything. I'm 4 pounds heavier at bedtime, and can be even more than that right after a meal. At least, I fluctuated about 4 pounds when I weighed 140 lbs, it's closer to 5 lbs now that I'm about 165ish.

I count my lowest daily weight for the purpose of weight loss/gain, but it's generally 2-3 pounds higher at the doctor's office later in the day. I don't worry about it, but rather accept that body weight fluctuates. It makes sense to me that you might fluctuate a little bit more at 190ish than I do at 165ish, as it's still about 3% of your body weight.

As for genotype, only Os and Bs can be Gatherers, and only As and ABs can be Warriors. Gatherers and Warriors do share a lot of traits; namely difficulty losing weight and hating to exercise. But our diets are vastly different from one another. your only other genotype options would be Teacher and Explorer, but it sounds like you don't mesh with either of those categories.

I've found that, with finding time for exercise and food prep, it's really more a matter of having the energy than having the time. If you can manage a large, satisfying breakfast before work, you may be able to eat less at dinnertime (something that tends to work well for Warriors.)

I just took a 20 minute walk (as I'm a stay-at-home-mom and all my kids are currently in school.) It sounds to me like you'd be best off finding time for exercise either before or after school. Even a few minutes a day, when done consistently, should help.


Ruth, Single Mother to 19yo   O- Leah (in Israel for the school year), 17yo O- Hannah, and  12yo B+ Jack


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Vkoslin, as another Warrior I also notice that when eating grains my weightloss either stops or I gain some back. For a Warrior (and many A's for that matter) if they really want to loose weight they need to limit the amount of grains. Swami really is very personalized, but it's still up to you to find out what works best for you. Your goal now is to loose weight, so limit the grains.

Also the exercise is a must. Without it, I simply don't loose any weight. Really try to fit that into your schedule. If you can't really exercise try walking somewhere if it's within reach (to supermarket or something like that). Take the stairs at work. Park as far away at the supermarket as you can so you have to walk a fair amount. Little things like that help.

As for dinner, really try not to overeat. So just until you are full (eat slowly, that helps lowering the amount you eat) and leave the "then some" out. Drink a glass of water half hour before you eat.

Try eating your fruit at the beginning of the day. That way you can burn of the sugars during the day. I noticed that eating fruit later on the day also makes me gain weight.
And last but not least, try to eat as many beneficials as possible. That also helps on the weight loss.




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I was a special ed teacher at your age as well. While the days were exhausting, it was more from constant low level stress. While there is much physical expenditure with this kind of work, it probably isn't the invigorating exercise that you need. I think our warrior bodies go into a semi-torpor under these conditions, and we begin hoarding calories. It's an exaggerated function of our thrifty metabolic tendencies.
As I've gotten older and lost much of my metabolic dynamism (as a young adult, I could gain or lose 10 lbs in a few days depending on activity levels and food intake--which could be awesome...) it takes very little to put me into a trudge mode. A simple 5-10 min. fast walk a few times a day makes a huge difference in keeping the metabolism efficient.

Smaller, more frequent meals also work better for me. It seems to be a pacing issue that might be due to those thrifty characteristics as well.

Oh, and stay the !*# away from chicken...
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Lol, thank you so much to everyone who posted. I'm so glad to hear from other Warriors with similar issues who have overcome them. And, from anybody that can get my butt to workout!

I'm starting as a head indoor track coach in a month, so I'd like to be in shape like the athlete I used to be. The strange thing is, I'm extremely muscular. I've got incredible muscle tone and easily leg press 270 but with still lean legs. I just have the sides and belly fat. And it sucks! I can't run because my knees touch so much, they actually turn in and always cause MCL trouble.

Any other Warriors accident-prone? That was another thought I had. I've broken over 20 bones in my lifetime. Don't have brittle bones or calcium deficiency, and most are leg/feet stress fractures from the way my hips open up, but knees turn in. (I swear I'll show a picture one day so yall don't think I'm frankenstein).


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lower your stress levels....
alternate breathing


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Wish I had an answer. None of the warriors on the board here with weight problems have seem to of conquered them (they've lost weight, but not become fit). There are the warriors on here that have never had a weight problem, but that isn't really the same thing is it?

I guess I can say be glad you were fit at some point. I have never been.

Kind of hard when the rule of thumb is don't eat anything, but eat so you aren't stressed out. Exercise, but don't do anything like fun or normal exercise because it will be too stressful. You can't win...
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Well, thanks for being real at least!!!!

Truth is, my job alone causes my hair to fall out from stress. 7 extremely special needs children   all day long. Every day.    

But, as far as exercising, I stress over NOT exercising but have never stressed over doing it. If I do, it's unnoticeable stress. So, I guess...ignore unnoticeable stress and work out...cuz nothing else works.


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Might want to try some of this-- good for all types-http://www.naturalhealth365.com/food/ashwagandha.html


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Well, thanks for being real at least!!!!

Truth is, my job alone causes my hair to fall out from stress. 7 extremely special needs children   all day long. Every day.    

But, as far as exercising, I stress over NOT exercising but have never stressed over doing it. If I do, it's unnoticeable stress. So, I guess...ignore unnoticeable stress and work out...cuz nothing else works.


Work to redefine your roll with the children in your mind, not per say how they see you. You may be able to relieve a lot of the stress by inventing new ways to deal with the situation, to master it. I can understand though as it is far from easy because the expectations are higher on them and therefor on you, than should be put on them. I've seen para-workers before trying to help the kid "learn" something when all they do is create a poor relationship with them.

If you read recently that eustress and distress are the same in the body, you'd be able to conclude how inappropriate exercise can still be stressful. I would say it is much less stressful than say, your work. Do Yoga.
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Keep in mind that there is a big difference between 15 years and 25 years. You are entering an essentially different period of your life.

And I was painfully thin as a teen, yet powerfully strong. Durability, however, was another story. You may have to accept that your youthful athleticism will be closer to normal as time goes on, and closer to the A type warrior than the O type hunter archetypes. Have you read what Dr. D has to say about this? I think yoga and plenty of low impact excercise will probably suit you better than hard-body gym workout programs, IMHO.
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Keep in mind that there is a big difference between 15 years and 25 years. You are entering an essentially different period of your life.

And I was painfully thin as a teen, yet powerfully strong. Durability, however, was another story. You may have to accept that your youthful athleticism will be closer to normal as time goes on, and closer to the A type warrior than the O type hunter archetypes. Have you read what Dr. D has to say about this? I think yoga and plenty of low impact excercise will probably suit you better than hard-body gym workout programs, IMHO.


I don't think she is asking to be an athlete. She just wants to be able to appreciate her body. I can understand, especially since at no point in my life have I ever been comfortable with it since I gained weight as a child and have not yet been able to rid myself of it. There is not physical barrier of exercise I wouldn't cross, nor deprivation in diet I wouldn't do. Trouble is that it just doesn't work.

Personally, at 27, I find I am still durable (but too adrenally burned out to apply it). In my family people are pretty durable physically. It doesn't mean they could be like a Hunter olympic athlete, triathlete, etc... but they don't suffer the physical injuries those people do. The every day activities people do that gain them injuries from impacts etc, do not effect people in my family. What does happen is when they get old their body loses the ability to manage the small damage so it becomes large. Things appear to "wear out". Probably has a lot to do with autophagy decline etc. Put it to you this way, if I experience in impact like getting hit by a car while walking, I can usually get up afterwards and do anything that needs to be done. Everyone else I know of any other genotype might be taken out of commission for a long time by incurring all sorts of injuries that require downtime. Except for rolling my ankle as a young child, I'm blessed with not having to deal with physical problems as most people do. I would if I wasn't health conscious, as I know from experiencing what serious imbalances in nutrients can do to muscle tightness, etc. The funny part is my body still works very poorly, just not in that particular way of incurring injuries all the time.

I guess that is a factor of survivability that is part of what makes a warrior a warrior. How Vkoslin has broken so many bones I dunno, we have different family lineage even if our bodies prefer near vegan food the same.

The importance of a warriors youth of being thin, seems to me to be one of the most crucial things to their life. Having it once is just imperative. Maybe a lot of people don't think it is all that important but how would you know if you never experienced it? Hard to value other things more when you have no point of reference.

I think I still will stick with what I've said before, I wouldn't recommend it (warriorhood). Maybe when the apocalypse comes, sure, warrior characteristics have some really strong value. These days it is like you slowly lose your ability to engage in the world around you. Maybe you did a lot more than other people, but you're still alive so it is a little strange.



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And, sorry, to answer the question about gaining weight- I can literally step on the scale every morning and it be 2 lbs different (more and less) than the previous day. I swear my weight varies daily from 185 to 190 in the mornings and even 195 at a doctor appointment midday. SOOO discouraging.


I had weight problems until I went vegetarian. I was lacto ovo vegetarian..lost all my pregnancy weight and maintained 137 until I hit Peri Menopause.. Then all heck broke loose on my hormones and I gained 40 lbs (also want to mention that I started eating meat again..my mother believed I wasn't healthy being vegetarian   ). I've been trying to get it off. Very difficult also because Warriors tend to gain weight anyway in middle age. I tried low carb, weight watchers and ended up here in 2007.  I feel the best when I follow the BTD.
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10 years ago. 15 years old, 6'1, 145


Wow, 140 was my ideal weight at 5'7"!  You have small bones?   I have medium bones. You look thin but not scary skinny.  I think when we're use to working out, I was a figure skater, our bodies need that exercise because we're used to it. We just need to balance with yoga and meditation for the stress.  
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May, do you mean you feel better doing BTD, versus swami or geno?

What sucks the most of all of this, is that I'm only 25 and facing major weight/belly gain. Dr. D refers to it as middle age. Either I'm looking at topping out around 50 or it's only just starting for me

This blows.


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To DoS:
I don't know what Dr. D says about this, but a year ago I started a child's dose of Celexa for anxiety. It's incredibly improved my stress with work. I can let little things go without taking them to heart, perseverating on them until I cried myself to sleep. I know side effects for such medicines, and I refuse to up the dose. But that small 10mg really does help alot.

I still get panic attacks 3 times a year, but much less than before Celexa.

I do hot yoga 1x a week. I really enjoy it and it's helped my asthma. But, getting discouraged because I feel like I'm not getting leaner with it. And, naturally, I shouldn't think that Yoga is enough to burn fat.

I sound awful..It's a Monday. I love my job and the kids are my life. They make me smile daily and truly wouldn't take any other job. Today was one of those stomach-bug/screaming kids days so I sound awfully bitter.


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