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yaeli
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Gatherer's breakfast today according to the genotype site: Strawberry smoothie with... YOGURT...        

"Baby steps"?



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Shall I eat cottage cheese 3 times a week and my arthritis won't worsen?    
It feels a bit awkward. I guess if I try just one week of superfoods and neutrals I'll have the answer.


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Rochelle
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If you're lactose intolerant, you're lactose intolerant, irrespective of GT. Dr D said:

"The gene for lactose intolerance is separate from the GTD. You just have to know yourself."




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Thanks Rochelle. This settles it.  


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Quoted from yaeli
Gatherer's breakfast today according to the genotype site: Strawberry smoothie with... YOGURT...        

"Baby steps"?



Yogurt ??????   must be mistake
Yogurt is toxic for a Gatherer ...
Cheers yael  


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We're learning this together, I suppose.


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I love vegetable glycerine; I was very grateful when Heidi M. introduced me to it, (on the ER BB, years ago.)I can't live without it (v.g., that is,)as a diabetic. Where is Heidi, anyway?  

The chocolate "fudge" recipe sound delish! Can't wait to try it.
I invented something fun..I make a serving of oatbran in the microwave, and add veg. glycerine..then I add a tsp. of plain cocoa powder, and some cinnamon.  Sometimes I add fruit and/or nuts.  To me, it's like candy, (although it's not...it's healthy for Gatherers, as you know.)

I also like to mix crushed pineapple with leftover Basmati rice, and add cinnamon, and maybe chopped nuts. mmmm-good!I love the Ricotta cheese; that's good mixed with fruit, (or do the same with the cottage cheese..that's one of my childhood favorites.)Judy O0o so grateful for Dr. D..


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Maybe they mean goat or sheep's yogurt?  The same as Greek yogurt?  I think I saw it at Trader Joe's. Would it make sense that Gatherers could have that kind of Yogurt? (Although, I don't see it listed in the book.)


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yaeli
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It says plainly: Yogurt = Toxin. No black dot.


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I love 'em, for the most part..but am missing my beef.  "Where's the Beef?" lol

Oh, well I still have lamb and turkey, and maybe we can find some of the others at the butcher.

Love the Ricotta and c.c., especially with fruit.  I definitely won't miss the chicken..could never sleep that night, when I ate it.  

What about Ezekiel bread?  I know it's not on our list, but that makes it a neutral, right?  Someone posted that it has gluten; I looked at my bread wrapper, and no gluten! I buy the Ezekiel bread in the orange wrapper, (Ezekiel 4:9.)

Did we ever get the word on oatmeal, (since we're allowed oat bran and flour?)Judy 0Oo


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Quoted from judy_clau
Did we ever get the word on oatmeal, (since we're allowed oat bran and flour?)Judy 0Oo
Yes, how come the flour & bran are superfoods and the grains are not?


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Quoted from Peppermint Twist

Chocolate?     I know it's a crowd pleaser but, come on, give me something **I** can work with!  Chocolate, pfffffft!


I'm very happy to have chocolate.  I take the Hershey's plain cocoa powder, and mix it with nuts and veg. glycerine...yum.  

Or a tsp of the plain cocoa in my oat bran with glycerine and nuts or stirred in to Basmatti rice, with fruit.  I put it on any of our grains, even Ezekiel bread..(now you know I'm missing my chocolate pudding.) But one day, maybe i'll figure how to make that with our foods.  Maybe rice or almond milk.  I'll go work on it.  Oh, I've got it! Cocoa powder, and glycerine in Ricotta Cheese!!  Judy



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What about Ezekiel bread?  I know it's not on our list, but that makes it a neutral, right?  Someone posted that it has gluten; I looked at my bread wrapper, and no gluten! I buy the Ezekiel bread in the orange wrapper, (Ezekiel 4:9.)



Unfortunately, Ezekiel bread has 100% sprouted wheat in it, a block dot avoid, so is out for 3-6 months.  However, there's Manna Bread  

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Did we ever get the word on oatmeal, (since we're allowed oat bran and flour?)Judy 0Oo

Just my own conclusion here, but I think it is at least neutral and possibly a superfood, since the bran is a superfood (but that could be because us thrifty genotypes need FIBER, baby) and the flour is a superfood.  Surely the whole oat would be super is the flour is...yes?  But it is at least neutral, meaning one can freely indulge.

I have thus far into the going had it twice, and I have to laugh because I had it Monday for breakfast, when I still couldn't taste ANYTHING due to coldzilla (I still cannot taste, although a tiny bit of taste is getting through now...but Monday I literally had no sense of taste at all).  I added agave nectar and so much cinnamon that, apparently, while I tasted NOTHING, you could pick up the fragrance quite a ways away, as someone came barrelling over and inquired as to where that lovely cinnamon scent was coming from!  When she saw how much I had in my oatmeal, she about died laughing!  Meanwhile, I couldn't taste anything!  It is scary how much cinnamon I consumed and how much sea salt I have also imbibed in the past few days, in a vain attempt to be able to taste.

Not sure if you can OD on cinnamon or what, but considering its beneficial effect on blood sugar, it is a good thing I used so much, as I also had enough agave nectar in there to lubricate a car engine.



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Quoted from Mary M.
both of us ate a compliant breakfast and neither of us was hungry 7 hours later.Margaret

I, too experienced the same thing the first day I started the diet, (but I may have had a slice or 2 of Ezekiel Bread that day.)
Not hungry all day, (unlike before.)  I've found that the Green tea curbs my appetite, and keeps me calm, (even when I was on a low carb diet.) Judy O0o


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Unfortunately, Ezekiel bread has 100% sprouted wheat in it, a block dot avoid, so is out for 3-6 months.  However, there's Manna Bread  


Bummer..I didn't think of that.  Oh, well, we've still got 2.5 loaves in the freezer to use up.  He said to do this gradually, right?  I did order Edna's Millet/Flax bread, (before I realized it has brown rice in it.) Hubby took it for lunch the other day..I didn't hear any comments, one way or the other. I must ask him what he thought.  Judy 0Oo so grateful for this website and friends like you.  


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Quoted from Peppermint Twist
Not sure if you can OD on cinnamon or what, but considering its beneficial effect on blood sugar, it is a good thing I used so much, as I also had enough agave nectar in there to lubricate a car engine.
And to think it used to be an avoid for O back in ER4YT times... brrrr... thank God those days are over, and rejoice!



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I'm so grateful to have the information - as an O+, I felt bad that I could not do more strenuous exercise like running.  I prefer yoga and swimming and always felt a bit exhausted by running and the like.


I'm with you!  My daughter, and O+ Sec. (probably Hunter,) started running in H.S., and got my hubby and I into it.  I really never looked forward to it ["Road Races" on weekends,] but my hubby, (Gatherer, non-believer,) is addicted to it.  

He's very thin, (although has the "spare tire,")and looks older than his age.

I, in fact broke my foot after running 5 days in a row.  That was the end of my running career, thank God I'm a Gatherer.
Judy 0Oo so grateful...


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Quoted from yaeli
And to think it [cinnamon]used to be an avoid for O back in ER4YT times..


Always loved cinnamon..can't live without it on our grains, yams, or our cheese...oh, and fruit. Judy 0Oo so grateful...



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Quoted from judy_clau


Always loved cinnamon..can't live without it on our grains, yams, or our cheese...oh, and fruit. Judy 0Oo so grateful...


Nutmeg's also delicious on yams/sweet potato
Cheers  


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Quoted from misspudding
I'm pretty sure I'm a nonnie, though I haven't been tested.  I'm so prone to yeast..


My family was prone to yeast, too, but we're all O-Secretors..who knows..?Judy 0Oo

P.S. Maybe mine are Lewis double negatives; I've read that they have similar problems as nonnies...Haven't been tested for that yet.  Anyone know who to contact for that? Cost?  



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Nutmeg's also delicious..

Are Gatherers allowed nutmeg now?  It was avoid for O+ Secretors before...I guess I haven't completely converted yet...Judy0Oo  Oh! I don't see it listed, so it must be neutral.  That's good, I've missed it in my pumpkin custard. OOh! May even be able to whip up a fake eggnog this year!   Judy 0Oo so grateful for our compliant foods.



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I don't see it listed, so it must be neutral.  



Looks like it is   


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About the dairy thing...I am lactose intolerant....the cottage cheese isn't working out....will leave that out for awhile....it was good to hear that it is not connected to genotype...you just have to know yourself...
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hmm can anyone think of some neutral foods..anything I come up with is either on the superfood or toxin list..except for macadamia nuts  
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