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Benoit Health
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HELP! I have spent 2 hours reading back posts and wonder if anyone can help - I have to get to work and the more I read, the more conflicted info I see.  I have studied and worked with BTD 20+ years, since Peter's first book, have used the BTD successfully with hundreds of clients, and still have the same questions - any gurus out there who have definitive answer? (As a professional it would be helpful if you could let me know your credentials that make you a guru on this subject)

1) regarding WHEY: charts and books I have say whey is avoid for O and A - on the blog lots of contradictions, some say OK for O, and A, other s not - what is current status for the 80% non-secretors for all blood types?

2)VINEGAR - I have always assumed this means processed vinegar being bad for O's. So much research from Bragg, Airola, Jensen, all well respected doctors in nutrition show benefits of pure, unprocessed apple cider vinegar for everyone, and especially arthritis, which affects more O's. - comments?

3) ORANGES - avoids for all types, would this include tree ripened, fresh picked, organic oranges? (A whole different food than most of the junk purchased in stores).

4) are non-secretors still considered approx. 20% of general population?

5) also just saw a blog about broccoli being a black dot? for O's? What is this about - fact or fiction, with scientific backing?

Any explanations, comments on any of these burning issues greatly appreciated. As a busy practitioner, I do not have a ton of time for blogging; if knowledgeable people want to copy your blog response to my pm directly, that would be greatly appreciated; as it could save me a ton of time.


Many thanks

    

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Posts: 1 HELP! I have spent 2 hours reading back posts and wonder if anyone can help - I have to get to work and the more I read, the more conflicted info I see.  well first of all go above and tell us what your blood type is add info to your self so we can know what type we are talking to... makes a world of difference.. otherwise we fly blind as bat's and our writing is of no use to you..

Have you read the GENO book??   yes or no let me know..  because if NO then you are light years behind what some of us write about on here.. it could be the reason for your confusion..  [/color]

I have studied and worked with BTD 20+ years, since Peter's first book, have used the BTD successfully with hundreds of clients, and still have the same questions - any gurus out there who have definitive answer?

you can look up foods for BTD on this board .. are you regularly doing that???


(As a professional it would be helpful if you could let me know your credentials that make you a guru on this subject) YOU STUDIED BTD for 20 years? or did it for 20 Years?? BIG difference!!! let me know..
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Credentials:;  I have used BTD for O's for ever.. (my other earlier life does not matter) THEREFORE:  I rely  100% on Dr.D he is my credential.. IF you find a better one tell me about It .. I bet you 100>- right now, that you will not be able to ...PERIOD!
  


1) regarding WHEY: charts and books I have say whey is avoid for O and A - on the blog lots of contradictions, some say OK for O, and A, other s not - what is current status for the 80% non-secretors for all blood types?.. here is where proper knowledge is key:: to answer you correctly we need the above info..


2)VINEGAR - I have always assumed this means processed vinegar being bad for O's. So much research from Bragg, Airola, Jensen, all well respected doctors in nutrition show benefits of pure, unprocessed apple cider vinegar for everyone, and especially arthritis, which affects more O's. - comments?
WHICH BTD book do you follow or read or know the most about?? there are 20 books.. plus one>>   Which book/s do you use for your clients?? that matters even more

as for apple cider : may I ask : when do you recommend it and when not? and more important.. can you please tell me how much ?? :  I would love to know more about how you use it>> THANKS..

3) ORANGES - avoids for all types, would this include tree ripened, fresh picked, organic oranges? (A whole different food than most of the junk purchased in stores). fresh or store-bought makes no difference.. The difference is in the specific blood type.. not all should avoid, some can have it under certain conditions.. looking up each item is crucial to understanding..



4) are non-secretors still considered approx. 20% of general population? I don't think your %ge is correct?? however more important is :  why are you asking?? .. one of the reasons we talk about it is that for those who are it matters greatly.. again tell me what books you follow as they all have different info..

5) also just saw a blog about broccoli being a black dot? for O's? What is this about - fact or fiction, with scientific backing?  if you are using this board.. you will soon learn that there is no fiction here.. but naturally everyone has a view point,, what is yours .. ? Back dots are real.. but take some understanding.. the books you use will tell me of what you are understanding( so far)

Any explanations, comments on any of these burning issues greatly appreciated. As a busy practitioner, I do not have a ton of time for blogging; if knowledgeable people want to copy your blog response to my email directly, that would be greatly appreciated; as it could save me a ton of time.

I just spent some time answering you in detail, so you would be able to get on board the best way.. but time spent ..    as for time we are all busy.. but to help you in your search for answers to help your clients properly is worth every effort you make.. so I recommend that for now you read this post alone.. answer the questions.. add you info.. and then you will be a big step ahead.. proper work is important.. start here by just reading your own thread.. - the word blog is being used in another context.. on this thread you are making a thread or answer a thread... and basically we are all equals as we all want to learn and share good info.. each to his or her own background..    

Many thanks

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Hi Benoit,

Just a couple of quickies.  

The board doesn't have gurus. We help each other. All of us are in a learning process. Dr. D continues to learn, we try to emulate that.

Over the years the BTD, and then the GenoType Diet developed into different approaches to helping people. There will be conflicts between the various diets at times because they are using different approaches. Furthermore, individualized diets (SWAMI) are now available. How you choose to use what is available is entirely your choice.

An experienced practioner can always make changes that better suit the individual he is treating.

Lastly, I believe all your questions are best addressed in the context of the diet being used. Obviously, with a SWAMI there may be a number of contradictions from a generalized diet because individuals have unique makeups.

You may want to consider attending the next conference and getting certification. That may enhance your understanding by an amount far greater than the time and expense of attending.

Best, Lloyd
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If you are using BTD as a main tool in helping your patients, it would be well suggesting that they join this forum. Each of them will have many questions and they can get answers here from people who have followed Dr. D for a long time. Though many have no credentials, they will likely be more educated on this topic than you. Their comments are valuable.

If your patients come here for answers, they will be better off and less of a pull on your busy schedule. If you can make time to learn more about BTD yourself, you will be a better practitioner, too. Not implying that you aren't good enough. The fact that you point your patients to BTD is fabulous.


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what is current status for the 80% non-secretors for all blood types?

I presume this is just flipped. 80% would be secretors.
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2)VINEGAR - I have always assumed this means processed vinegar being bad for O's. So much research from Bragg, Airola, Jensen, all well respected doctors in nutrition show benefits of pure, unprocessed apple cider vinegar for everyone, and especially arthritis, which affects more O's. - comments?

Ratings for apple cider vinegar sometimes differs from other vinegars, for type O depending on the diet plan used.

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3) ORANGES - avoids for all types, would this include tree ripened, fresh picked, organic oranges? (A whole different food than most of the junk purchased in stores)


There is not currently a separate rating for "tree ripened, fresh picked, organic oranges". This is the case for nearly all foods. No separate ratings for variations on the food. Although it is recognized that different treatment can affect the nutrient profile and othe characteristic of the food. The general guidance is to get the highest quality of the foods that are on your diet that you can.


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5) also just saw a blog about broccoli being a black dot? for O's? What is this about - fact or fiction, with scientific backing?


Black dots are used in GenoType diet. This is a different diet than the blood type diet. Food ratings for the GenoType diet are not the same as those in the blood type diet.  People need to follow one or the other not both.

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Benoit Health,

Let me first say Welcome and I hope you find your answers you are looking for here.  I am not a guru just a follower.  BUT, in my opinion, the best way to tell if someone from this forum here knows their stuff is the listing under their Avatar will say, Administrator and or Columnist and or Blogger and or Moderator and or in their signature line they will be credentialed with the certifcations FIfHI or MIfHI.  http://www.dadamo.com/ifhi/
I believe the Admins, Columnists, Bloggers and Moderators are people that Dr. D has chosen to assist him in operating this site.  They also, in my opinion, are very knowledgable about the BTD, the GTD and the other books Dr. D has written and they are the ones that make this "the best" health forum on the web  

I understand you wanting to get answers or a response from "credentialed" indivuals, but to some your request for this may have sounded a bit arrogant and they may not even want to take the time to respond.  If you are not wanting to get bombarded with posts from those that are not as "credentialed" as you want them to be you may want to try a little humility and private message some of the "major contributors" of this board and ask them your questions in a private message.  Such as, Lola, Andrea, Victoria, Lloyd, C sharp, Tom Martens or Vicki.  There are many others here that have a great deal of knowledge about Dr. D's work these are just the first few that come to mind.

Again, welcome to the forum and I hope you find the answers you are looking for.

With Respect,
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Welcome Benoit Health!!


There are two basic dietary approaches in Dr. Peter D'Adamo's books. First he wrote a whole series of books about the Blood Type Diet (BTD), with some refinements in later books based on secretor status, as well as some refinements for specific disease conditions. Some foods might be fine for Os in general, but aren't good for Os with Diabetes, for example.

Next he wrote the Genotype Diet (GTD). This is a completely different approach to figuring out what foods an individual should eat. There are 6 different genotypes, and they don't exactly correlate to blood types. For example, Hunters can only be Os, Gatherers can be Os or Bs, and Explorers can be any of the blood types. When following the GTD, the Gatherer follows the same diet whether the person is an O or a B, but different from what an O Hunter  would eat. Broccolli is a "Black dot" (occasional food, not a particularly wise dietary choice) for Gatherers, even though it's a "beneficial" food for Os.

Dr. D'Adamo also wrote SWAMI software that computes the "perfect diet" for each individual based on a number of factors, such as blood type, the body measurements used to compute genotype, and medical history.The software combines BTD and GTD food values.  Many of us on this forum are following our own SWAMIs, and not using any of the diets exactly from the books. Plus, being human, not all blog authors follow their diets 100% That's why you see so many apparent contradictions.

According to the TypeBase (the BTD food values listed on this website), oranges are neutral for Bs but avoids for o,s ABs, and As. http://www.dadamo.com/typebase4/depictor5.pl?275

My credentials consist of doing plenty of nutritional research to resolve my personal health issues, which includes being part of this message board for over a year. I can't explain the underlying biochemistry, but I can explain how Dr. D. has set things up.


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As a professional it would be helpful if you could let me know your credentials that make you a guru on this subject)


how about you letting us know yours first.....


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Credential: I am a fellow certified by the Institute for Human Individuality.
Academically: I have a PhD in Information Science and a masters degree related to Environmental Health.


and according to me, you have a suma cum laude in dealing so brilliantly with your personal health issues!!!


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Hey Frosty!
you re giving us all away!!!


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Making time to focus and learn more in depth could benefit you and your clients. You might consider going to the IfHI conference next year. You can ask questions and drink from the firehose of knowledge. Taking your knowledge to the Master level would enable you to run personalized SWAMI software for your clients and you would be able to greatly assist them by tweaking it for their individual health concerns.

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1) regarding WHEY: charts and books I have say whey is avoid for O and A - on the blog lots of contradictions, some say OK for O, and A, other s not - what is current status for the 80% non-secretors for all blood types?

From the blood type perspective, check the Food Values database. This contains the most up to date values for BTD http://www.dadamo.com/typebase4/depictor5.pl?450 Also realize that individuals may have different values based on Genotype or SWAMI.


2) I don't know about vinegar.


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3) ORANGES - avoids for all types, would this include tree ripened, fresh picked, organic oranges? (A whole different food than most of the junk purchased in stores).


From the Tennessee conference recently, someone asked about oranges.

The foods have different values depending on the individual.

Regarding oranges, they are a a strong avoid generally, and hopefully I can explain this because generally I tend to take in the application side and sometimes get a little fuzzy on the details.
Oranges have polyamines that are a growth factor for cells. In oranges they are either too potent or don't create the right type of growth. Polyamines are essential for cell reproduction, but too many or the wrong kind(?) can lead to uncontrolled growth and possibly cancer.

Kids consume a lot of polyamines and they need them because they are growing.
However, oranges were an avoid even for kids.
To me, that is a pretty powerful statement.

Now, that being said, I ran a SWAMI for my mother and orange was neutral for her. So again, we are back to the individual.


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4) are non-secretors still considered approx. 20% of general population?

Yes. I'm not sure why you would think this would change in our lifetime. Change like that I would think would take many generations and/or a large events to change the genes.

There were about 50% nonnies in the room in Tennessee. This was overrepresented in this group. Secretor status is the crucial key to health for many nonnies and many of the people that were at the conference are big time success stories (and furthering their knowledge at a conference) because it helped them so much.

If you have someone that isn't getting results, or having nonnie-like issues, please get their secretor status done.



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5) also just saw a blog about broccoli being a black dot? for O's? What is this about - fact or fiction, with scientific backing?  

Different objectives, different values. Get the Genotype Diet book for a basic understanding of epigenetics . My O husband's SWAMI changed broc back to superfood for him.

I would venture to say that nothing Dr. D'Adamo does in his practice is without scientific backing, with the exception being that his unconscious mind most likely puts things together in new ways that are based on all that he has learned and experienced. Would there be a massive study backing up every value of every food for every individual? Not cost effective. Who would fund it?

Every food value has reason behind it, even if it is not disclosed in the book. You must also remember that this personalized approach to medicine is only slowly creeping it's way into the mainstream. Most MD's still don't even acknowledge there is any difference between patients based on bloodtype and I would even say many may only see calories and variety as the important differences between foods.

Check out Eric's video at http://www.battleforhealth.com for a more in-depth discussion of the BTD. He also has flip charts that explain basics of blood type and the blood type diet that would be good to use with your clients.

I can understand wanting black and white answers, but there is not always a clear answer when multiple values are involved and as more research has been done-- things change.

The BTD and GTD appear to contradict each other in having different food values. In BTD, the food is being adjusted to the person to line up with the person's blood type. My take is some of the special series books such as Allergies, Diabetes, Cancer were tweaks to BTD that started to narrow the field for people with certain issues.

In GTD, the primary focus is the genes are being adjusted by the food.

The Genotype book is attempting to put people into a few different boxes to give them one solution to follow. The SWAMI software accounts for many more variables and comes up with a solution for you as an individual. Genotype--based on commonalities. SWAMI--based more on variables. In essence you drill down with the SWAMI. In Genotype, we chunk up to major groups, looking for commonalities.

In a SWAMI, the approaches of the BTD and GTD are able to be blended and the diet customized based on more factors that the individual puts in. Some foods address specific health challenges or risks. Foods and food combinations are tweaked for desired outcomes.

My SWAMI has special food combos that help me detoxify my liver.

Each food in the SWAMI, has over 200 variables accounted for and weighed with logic Dr. D has written into the program that calculates values for each food based on your individual input.

The more I learn, the more I marvel at all that has gone into this work.

It took me quite awhile to answer this, well over an hour, but I am glad you are helping people with your work which is why I took the time. I hope this was helpful to you.

Hopefully you will make it to the next conference.

Best to you.







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I can understand wanting black and white answers, but there is not always a clear answer when multiple values are involved and as more research has been done-- things change.


I might agree with the above .. but I take exception in the following way.. when people learn only from the perspective of one viewpoint (as Professionals often get looked into) then things are often black and white.. questioned and discarded.. black and white.  BTD was successful because people could study and experiment and in no time at all they learned what worked for them and what did not.  Then the newer classifications offered people refinements that took them from certain illness to stability and in some instances to cures.  NO other food based principals have done so thus far officially or non official..

Since those days many many so called specialists and people willing and able to copy things and tweaking the info available here have developed other food 'Pyramids" and have greatly profited from it on TV or in their offices. So those who follow all sorts of 'designer' diets may have had some good results, but they where seldom EMPOWERED to know why they would improve or why they did not.

KNOWLEDGE is power for some others just copy or use re-use info others have spouted about to make the letters behind their own name make them sound more respectable or improve their sales credentials..

Here we are EMPOWERED every day to study and give credentials not to letters, but to individual knowledge and incorporation of what the individual experiences.  Lifesaving information is dispensed every day, and those who really care are here and discuss the findings for the benefit of all who come after.  There is a mayor problem.. all this is free here.. other health information dispensing offices you have to pay many dollars for erroneous advise for half info, half results, and half health.. ( needing repeated appointments and office visits at a price) .. but here with free learning a professional can advance him or her self, in the privacy of their own mind and become truly effective in what they, you and me dispense.

One other thing not even touched upon is NAP.. but there where no questions asked about that so I will not address those issues to save time ..  


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Goldie, I am referring to a food changing values based on what criteria you are using to evaluate it. As more information is discovered, it is factored into the mix as well.

The person who wrote the original post, I felt, was expressing some frustration and confusion. The intention of my post was to give her understanding and encouragement.

I agree with you on collective wisdom being a learning tool and that the individual needs to find what works for them.


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Now, that being said, I ran a SWAMI for my mother and orange was neutral for her. So again, we are back to the individual.


Was she a B?


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No, A+ Warrior with a whole array of health issues.


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Interesting.. A Warriors seem to get health issues.. non-secretor by any chance?


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Thursday, June 3, 2010, 12:13pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Kyosha Nim
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Just coming back to edit post. Secretor status unknown. She's not real committed to this yet.
44% match on Warrior. Eats all kinds of avoids, on many meds. Etc., etc. Not quite getting cause/effect yet.


"For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother's womb. I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made; your works are wonderful, I know that full well." Psalm 139:13,14

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Goldie
Thursday, June 3, 2010, 12:21pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Now, that being said, I ran a SWAMI for my mother and orange was neutral for her. So again, we are back to the individual.


Was she a B?  


dont give it all away..

I wonder is the orange juice the reason why some kids are bigger/taller wider then ever??

like some heads on some kids are getting bigger/rounder even when not fat.

. what else could be having such on effect??

BUT we will be confusing the first poster here if we digress .. big heads come in several varieties..  


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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Lola
Thursday, June 3, 2010, 3:44pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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AKArtlover,

your long explicative post above is a keeper!!!
thanks for putting it all together......I will definitely often quote you in the future, if you don t mind!!!


the putrecine content in oranges would be reason enough to get its avoid status!!


''Just follow the book, don't look for magic fixes to get you off the hook. Do the work.'' Dr.D.'98
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AKArtlover
Thursday, June 3, 2010, 4:38pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Kyosha Nim
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Thanks Lola.
Maybe that was the polyamine of concern?


"For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother's womb. I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made; your works are wonderful, I know that full well." Psalm 139:13,14
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DenverFoodie
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Ee Dan
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Did someone scare Benoit Health away?    I love the dedication of the respondents to the questions.  I love this community!  


Every morning create your day.  If you don't, life will for you!

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Goldie
Saturday, June 5, 2010, 5:09am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Sam Dan
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Did someone scare Benoit Health away?    I love the dedication of the respondents to the questions.  I love this community!


I was wondering the same thing.. but professionals often work harder than regular folks.. it's the devotion to providing good service during work that will make Benoit get back here, or better yet, she will come back after she has a need to fix her own health... and then the board will mean much more .. money making is a poor motivator, self improvement is the real key to wisdom.   interesting the subtext under her avatar is "Hidden Potential"..


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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ABJoe
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Quoted from Goldie
...  interesting the subtext under her avatar is "Hidden Potential"..

This is due to the very low number of posts to the forum...


RH-, ISTJ
Wonderful Wife = A+ Teacher; Darling Daughter = A- SWAMI Explorer
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