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Posted by: O_Secretor_Hunter, Monday, April 7, 2014, 6:22pm
Hi,

I'm looking at my GenoTyper from Nov. 2008. On the Grains at a Glance page, I do not see Pumpernickel. Clarification, when I say pumpernickel, I'm talking about the regular size sandwhich making bread, not the hard wafer type pumpernickel.

I don't do Rye because I think it may not be good for Hunters.
I see I marked Oat the same way. Although it's on the Neutral list, when The GenoType diet came out, I wrote Avoid next to it.

Thank you.
Posted by: Lola, Monday, April 7, 2014, 6:29pm; Reply: 1
rye is what you should look for

read ingredient listing in all you purchase, and compare to your personalized listing
Posted by: Victoria, Monday, April 7, 2014, 9:04pm; Reply: 2
If I remember correctly, pumpernickel can be a combination of various different things.  Therefore, the only way to know is to read the ingredient list and check each thing in the bread against your food list.  There is not a grain called pumpernickel.  ;)
Posted by: ABJoe, Monday, April 7, 2014, 10:25pm; Reply: 3
I agree that you need to read the ingredients to know...  Usually pumpernickel is a combination of wheat and rye, which would be an avoid...
Posted by: shoulderblade, Tuesday, April 8, 2014, 5:47pm; Reply: 4
I think wheat is usually the principle grain in Pumpernickle with rye as a secondary. I would assume so unless otherwise marked.
Posted by: Amazone I., Tuesday, April 8, 2014, 6:59pm; Reply: 5
but isn't that blo. stuff treated in a certain manner to be able named*pumpernickel*??) coz this product is tasting nothing but sour and muffy...very  :P(hand) ;)
Posted by: C_Sharp, Wednesday, April 9, 2014, 2:41am; Reply: 6
Traditional pumpernickel is made with course ground rye flour and contains no wheat.

Sometimes (particularly common in the US), wheat is added to pumpernickel bread, but then you need to add coloring agents to look make bread look as if you did not use wheat.
Posted by: battle dwarf, Sunday, April 20, 2014, 3:52am; Reply: 7
it originates from Germany (was rye) and the color is due to being cooked in clay molds for 24 hours, saw how it was made on the cooking channel years ago. Americans put wheat in everything because it is a cheap filler, like corn :P they once used sawdust as a bread filler... I think I prefer that  :X
Posted by: Averno, Sunday, April 20, 2014, 12:18pm; Reply: 8
Quoted from battle dwarf
it originates from Germany (was rye) and the color is due to being cooked in clay molds for 24 hours, saw how it was made on the cooking channel years ago. Americans put wheat in everything because it is a cheap filler, like corn :P they once used sawdust as a bread filler... I think I prefer that  :X


We've also changed the recipes to include cocoa, coffee, and molasses to approximate the real thing absent the long baking time. While I used to enjoy this pumpernickel, I realize now that it's neither healthy nor authentic unless made from 100% rye flour.




Posted by: Lola, Monday, April 21, 2014, 2:58am; Reply: 9
now rye manna is a different animal altogether.... ;D
Posted by: Peppermint Twist, Monday, April 21, 2014, 2:50pm; Reply: 10
Excellent thread and, you know, in all the years I've been around these here cyberparts, I don't think I recall a discussion on pumpernickel, amazingly.  Yes, true pumpernickel would be made from a nice, dark rye, as well as the rye berries and a sourdough starter.  So, true, authentic, traditional pumpernickel would be compliant for those lucky ones among us who can have rye.  However, as has been said, in America, virtually all pumpernickel bread that you find available in stores and delis contains wheat.  As has also been said but cannot be repeated oft enough:  the best thing to do, as always, is to READ LABELS and look at every individual ingredient to determine if any specific food item is compliant for you.

And now I'm jonesing for pumpernickel!   ;D

More on this delectable bread:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pumpernickel
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