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Posted by: Christopher1, Saturday, March 15, 2014, 6:09pm
Hello all:

Looking for some help here. = (

I've been on some form of the diet (BTD/GTD/SWAMI) for over 5 years, but I am dealing with severe erectile dysfunction.

I went on Wellbutrin a year ago - after which the ED started. (Before the Wellbutrin, everything was fine.)

I took some calcium d-glucarate to clean out any estrogen and got my blood tested.

Estradiol was 20 and testosterone was 950. The endocrinologist was pleased, but could not figure out what was causing the ED - so he gave me some Viagra which I don't want to use.

Wellbutrin is supposed to raise dopamine and norepinephrine, I think.

I went to a holistic doctor and she ordered a neurotransmitter urine test.

The result?

Norepinephrine was too low! Wait - I thought O's usually had too much of the catecholamines?

I am a Hunter (O+ non-secretor) according to SWAMI by the way.

She gave me some expensive supplements, but I just ordered a couple of bottles of Catechol instead - believing it to be superior (and cheaper). The supplements she tried selling me did have things like tyrosine and rhodiola etc.

Well - I have been doing the Catechol for over a month with zero results. = (

I also tried using high doses of arginine on an empty stomach and eating more watermelon for nitric oxide - but it did absolutely nothing.

My neurotransmitter test showed that dopamine and epinephrine were fine. Histamine was fine, too. Only norepinephrine was way too low.

The test also showed that PEA was a little low (phenethylamine - though I eat chocolate daily) and creatinine was a little high - but both were within range.

(I have also been tested for thyroid, LH, FSH, cortisol, and estrone. All were fine. Cortisol was a little high (25). I have some holy basil here though. I seem to be fine, I think.)

If anyone has any suggestions, please let me know. = (

I will report results in this thread so others can benefit if they have the same problem.
Posted by: C_Sharp, Saturday, March 15, 2014, 6:28pm; Reply: 1
Based on this http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17170606 and other research on nitric oxide, Nitricycle might help (I know you said watermelon did not work you).

http://www.4yourtype.com/prodinfo.asp?number=NP013
Posted by: C_Sharp, Saturday, March 15, 2014, 6:43pm; Reply: 2
Quoted from Christopher1

Well - I have been doing the Catechol for over a month with zero results. = (

I also tried using high doses of arginine on an empty stomach


Are we continuing take Wellbutrin or was Catechol being used to replace it?

If Wellbutrin is regulating dopamine level I would have an inclination to try things that would deal more with testosterone and hormone balance issues.

Perhaps trying Aromostat:

http://www.4yourtype.com/prodinfo.asp?number=NP010

Or Genoma EQ:

http://www.4yourtype.com/prodinfo.asp?number=NP045

Posted by: C_Sharp, Saturday, March 15, 2014, 6:47pm; Reply: 3
Quoted from Christopher1
Cortisol was a little high (25).


I use Cortiguard for this, but I am not confident that this will deal with the erectile dysfunction issue.

http://www.4yourtype.com/prodinfo.asp?number=NP006

Posted by: Mrs T O+, Saturday, March 15, 2014, 7:52pm; Reply: 4
Dr. Bill Stilwell, who has a site called (I think) dr.billsfavoriteformulas.com or something like that sells good quality supps & one of them is Megarex which is supposed to be good for male issues & is supposedly all natural things, not drugs. I'm sure you can find him on the internet.
He used to have a regular e-newsletter, but I rarely hear from him now. I feel confident he has good products.  
Posted by: Andrea AWsec, Sunday, March 16, 2014, 12:23am; Reply: 5
The right kind of stimulation-- go back to the place where you had the best sex.
Posted by: C_Sharp, Sunday, March 16, 2014, 12:41am; Reply: 6
Quoted from Mrs T O+
Dr. Bill Stilwell, who has a site called (I think) dr.billsfavoriteformulas.com or something like that  


URL is:

http://drbillsformulas.com/
Posted by: Amazone I., Sunday, March 16, 2014, 3:59pm; Reply: 7
Christopher, sorry but I've got merely the pic. into my head that true issue isn't the mentioned causa... merely fear and ........are...(shrug)(smile) why not working with Louise Hays' affirmations...for example??)...getting connected body-mind-issues ??) ;) :D... wish you quickest results and better understandings for your own being ;) :D...

best wishes from Switzerland.... (and no blue pill at all.....;) )...
Posted by: Christopher1, Sunday, March 16, 2014, 3:59pm; Reply: 8
Thank you for all the help!

I will report my progress.
Posted by: Amazone I., Sunday, March 16, 2014, 9:32pm; Reply: 9
the mushy ABM might be one of the body needs in your case as well ;) ......
Posted by: Lola, Monday, March 17, 2014, 12:40am; Reply: 10
cardiovascular health protocols might be in order as well
Posted by: Christopher1, Monday, June 23, 2014, 1:18pm; Reply: 11
Still nothing.

I am going to try pregnenolone.

That Wellbutrin really messed me up.
Posted by: PCUK-Positive, Monday, June 23, 2014, 1:27pm; Reply: 12
have you tried a cayenne capsule with main meals. 500 mg make sure only with meals though not before not after literally with meals.

also try and do many things. keep posture good. straight back. east for your type. reduce intimacy to once a week for 3 months.

exercise, walk on the beach with bare feet, go into the sea. take Epsom baths.

take a lot of magnesium also i mean like a building up to a total of maybe 1000 mg each day for month maybe 3 months.

also take a polyvite O cap or two with every meal.

Posted by: Goldie, Monday, June 23, 2014, 1:37pm; Reply: 13
why not ask the makers of welbuterin what they have to say??? Report the effects via your doctor to the powers to be in Washington..

I also think that Amazon is correct to a large degree.. Look for the fear factor, look for the instance when something in your head may have triggered a thought that is hounding you..

Sorry this is happening at your early age.. No diabetes?  No bigger issues? all checked out?

all the best.. and romance too.. and for the next 30 days no expectations.. just say no for a while and see if (catastrophic) expectations are hampering your being... self pressure is a bad beginning.  

As for your partner, be as romantic for the same month as is possible, do other things to assure that nothing else is going on.  Be kind to you and your partner.  look at what you might learn from this as far as love making is concerned.. often sex is the vehicle to a certain set of behavior when maybe the real thing is love making which takes a while longer and does not have to result in sex... sitting next to a partner.. instead of sitting opposite is much more intimate.. holding hands while walking  
around the neighborhood, or actually looking into your partners eyes over dinner.. learn new ways to the old.. ..  
goood luck..
Posted by: Amazone I., Monday, June 23, 2014, 3:42pm; Reply: 14
cordyceps or some l'arginine??) ;) :D....as a form of placebo aid ..... :D and why not booking a *tantric course* ??) This often works wonders !!! (smarty)(woot)(ok)(cool)(sunny)
Posted by: DoS, Monday, June 23, 2014, 6:30pm; Reply: 15
Have you tried going supplement free/fast for a few days?
Posted by: Easy E, Monday, June 23, 2014, 10:12pm; Reply: 16
Antidepressants can do that.  This may sound bizarre, but refraining from ejaculation limiting it to once per week or maybe even two can help.  Also standing in martial arts horse stance for a little each day can greatly supply blood and energy back to the center area/pelvis.  

Look up horse stance, just a little bit few times a day hold 30 secs to start.


I took Zoloft most of college and it did have negative effects.  Could have enjoyed college much more had I known in that area:)  i then tried wellbutrin and it made me super overstimulated and did n o t sleep more than an hour a night.  I feel those meds are way overused and are a big pharma money maker.  They are very addictive and hard to get off of.  Use good herbs ti buffer the withdrawals, but as a hunter you prob arent as chemically sensitive.

Also there is no real evidence neurotransmitters have anything to do with depression as a cause of it.  The meds create a pathological change in the brain and don't address the cause.  I feel stress hormones cause it not neurotransmitters.
Posted by: Patty H, Tuesday, June 24, 2014, 1:18am; Reply: 17
I am not suggesting that this is at all your issue, but I thought I would add this information.  There are a lot of issues these days with men using pornography and/or manual stimulation resulting in an inability to perform sexually with a partner.  There are many reasons for this and it has been reported on college campuses across the country.

I agree with the idea that limiting your sexual outlet, as recommended by Easy E can be a very good start and doing this only with a partner.  Go back to basics.  Hopefully you have a partner who will be understanding and help you through this difficult time with both compassion and patience.  Sometimes the answer is simple and abstinence can help to re-establish a healthy sex life, assuming your physician has ruled out other issues.

Try touching without sex.  Work towards rebuilding your intimacy without the need for an orgasm and you may find over time that you also rebuild your ability to respond.
Posted by: Johnny B., Tuesday, June 24, 2014, 2:27pm; Reply: 18
I tried antidepressants for a year, and while I never experienced erectile dysfunction, it would take me around an hour to climax. As soon as I weaned off, I was extremely sensitive and would climax in 3 minutes. It took me month to get back to normal.  

Only a third of people actually respond to antidepressants. And often the side effects outweigh the benefits.

Recommended reading:
http://www.amazon.com/How-Come-Theyre-Happy-Not/dp/1573245801
Posted by: Lola, Wednesday, June 25, 2014, 12:29am; Reply: 19
http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?m-1403542253/s-new/
Posted by: DoS, Wednesday, June 25, 2014, 1:06am; Reply: 20
Quoted from DoS
Have you tried going supplement free/fast for a few days?


I'm not joking about this... even fasting a couple of meals can do interesting things sometimes.

To a point where I can say not even Trehalose can facilitate some of the benefits of giving the old body a minute to breath, pause, set balances, etc.
Posted by: Amazone I., Wednesday, June 25, 2014, 9:34am; Reply: 21
antidepressants... nonniedoom and explorers... what a heck ;) ....and caress...(goofy)
better to invest in  type exploration and growth... please read the book from Briggs-Myers *Gifts Differing* ok it's a bit of older datum.... but it still  relevant for our developments !!! ;) ..combine it with *wisdom of the enneagram* and no more anti-whatever- needed ;) ;D but all therapsits might become rationalized...(hehe)(hehe)(funny)(smarty)(clap)(ok)(dance)

this is it what I thought by myselve... we musn't blame outwards... but have to go and look inwardsly :D.... it's so easy...you will find a wonderful-beautiful person but distored since childhood... this was C.G.Jung writing about neurotics... only a distorsion from youth on... and it's all about our own duty to get *re-knitted* to our true selfs and types... so far so long dearest compadres... go and make a good job on *your self* ;) ....this was an invitation ;) ;D :K)


and then ok use amino acids, fatty acids,vits and minerals like magnesium at your ease... but please...(pray)(scared) never touch those chemicals again... the only truth here is: dependancy.... that's all it provokes...(mad)(shrug) :X
and enormeous incomes for the providers... :P


btw... the creamy topic still of those is: the Don Miguel Ruiz programs with his 5 sentences... nicely to be implemented in our daily lives... once really integrated and adopted...what a releaf and change!!!

http://www.ruiz.com or even better http://www.ruizacademy.org??) something similar ;) :D...
Posted by: Kumar, Wednesday, June 25, 2014, 10:50am; Reply: 22
Yea, the issue often is not biological. A typical quiz asks:

"Which is the most important sex organ?"

The write answer is, "the mind."

If you find no biological causes, allow mind to run wildly in all directions so that the blood flow to the vslued organ is tremendous!
Posted by: SquarePeg, Wednesday, June 25, 2014, 8:15pm; Reply: 23
Tribulus Terrestris will raise testosterone and probably stimulate your libido.  But you didn't report that your testosterone is low....
Posted by: Christopher1, Thursday, January 15, 2015, 6:05am; Reply: 24
My problem has not gotten any better - at all.

Tyrosine actually makes it worse. Could Wellbutrin have completely destroyed my brain chemistry? This problem started exactly when I started Wellbutrin.

I only took the minimum amount prescribed by my doctor twice per day (at breakfast and lunch). I did add tyrosine to the Wellbutrin, which was probably too much. = (

On it, I felt incredible focus and energy. Work and study got a lot easier! It was almost too perfect - until the side effects set in.

Sigh - there is no such thing as a free lunch with these drugs.

I have been on the SWAMI diet all this time and have tried all kinds of therapies - liver flushes, saunas, different forms of supplement protocols, fasts, trehalose, cardiovascular exercises, and mental exercises. Cialis and Viagra do nothing for me.

I'm 26 (O+ non-secretor Hunter) and never wake up with an erection. I do not masturbate. My libido is very strong. I just cannot have a normal erection similar to my pre-Wellbutrin days.

Again, any tips are welcome. I'm desperate; something has to be wrong with my biochemistry.

Thanks in advance all. I sincerely apologize if this thread is too much information.
Posted by: Andrea AWsec, Thursday, January 15, 2015, 12:29pm; Reply: 25
Get off the Wellbutrin. Are you on it for low libido?


Posted by: Easy E, Thursday, January 15, 2015, 1:12pm; Reply: 26
I am pretty sure wellbutrin can increase blood pressure and constrict blood vessels, esp. the micro circulation.  A cooling and relaxing herb such as gotu kola could be worth trying, it also modulates excess dopamine and serotonin levels that this medicine can trigger with use, and it greatly helps blood circulation and relaxes blood vessels.  It takes a few weeks to notice the full spectrum of benefits.  I would avoid pharmaceuticals for sexual dysfunction or to counter effects of other pharmaceuticals.
Posted by: PCUK-Positive, Thursday, January 15, 2015, 1:15pm; Reply: 27
I would have a months off everything. have some relaxing time and concentrate on posture, I would raise your bed at the head and have some Epsom slats bath. don't even think about it for a month. see what happens then address everything thgen, get some test done after the month, to see things like zinc levels. go to bed at 10 and get up at 7 am for a month. keep a very dark bedroom and completely free of electrical bits and pieces. stay away from anything negative, people situations, food even ;).

To to reboot yourself and then see where you are hot  or cold. then i would see one person and do what they say only.

are you anywhere near Dr ginger Nash? I would see her after 2 weeks or chilling.

http://www.gingernash.com/
Posted by: Christopher1, Thursday, January 15, 2015, 3:04pm; Reply: 28
Quoted from Andrea AWsec
Get off the Wellbutrin. Are you on it for low libido?




I have been off it since late September of 2013...  :(
Posted by: Christopher1, Thursday, January 15, 2015, 3:05pm; Reply: 29
Quoted from Easy E
I am pretty sure wellbutrin can increase blood pressure and constrict blood vessels, esp. the micro circulation.  A cooling and relaxing herb such as gotu kola could be worth trying, it also modulates excess dopamine and serotonin levels that this medicine can trigger with use, and it greatly helps blood circulation and relaxes blood vessels.  It takes a few weeks to notice the full spectrum of benefits.  I would avoid pharmaceuticals for sexual dysfunction or to counter effects of other pharmaceuticals.


Thank you, Easy E! I am going to give that a good try and report back if it made a difference.
Posted by: Christopher1, Thursday, January 15, 2015, 3:08pm; Reply: 30
Quoted from PCUK-Positive
I would have a months off everything. have some relaxing time and concentrate on posture, I would raise your bed at the head and have some Epsom slats bath. don't even think about it for a month. see what happens then address everything thgen, get some test done after the month, to see things like zinc levels. go to bed at 10 and get up at 7 am for a month. keep a very dark bedroom and completely free of electrical bits and pieces. stay away from anything negative, people situations, food even ;).

To to reboot yourself and then see where you are hot  or cold. then i would see one person and do what they say only.

are you anywhere near Dr ginger Nash? I would see her after 2 weeks or chilling.

http://www.gingernash.com/


Thank you for the comprehensive recommendations.

I haven't been working lately so my life has been really low stress. Most of the lifestyle recommendations are in place. I sleep in a dark room - grounded, too.

Unfortunately, I am not near Dr. Nash.
Posted by: Peppermint Twist, Thursday, January 15, 2015, 3:08pm; Reply: 31
I am just now seeing this thread that began many months ago.  I can't believe that, in the whole two pages of it, only a few people have said:  get off the Wellbutrin.

The problem started when the Wellbutrin started.  From everything you said, Christopher, it sounds like it is clearly the cause.  And, as has been pointed out in the thread, antidepressants don't usually work/have efficacy for their intended purpose.  What they do often do is cause a LOT of unwanted to downright harmful side effects.  I would get off the Wellbutrin and try other, natural approaches, toward working with your depression.  Plain old exercise daily (walking, in particular, for at least a half an hour) is usually far more helpful with depression than any antidepressant.  Combine that with your healthy BTD, and you are setting the foundation.  Then I would suggest the supplement CoQ10, which does many profoundly good things for your body on a deep, intracelluar level, including helping your energy and mood, and helping to regulate your sleep/wake cycle.  I went on it some years back now for gum health, and instantly found that it improved my mood/outlook/optimism level and energy.

There are many other natural "nutraceutical" supplements, and other natural approaches, you can try, too:  everything from Vitamin B12 to yoga* to green tea to counseling/therapy.  I do think that exercise is key, key, key!  Also, getting off wheat for Type O's has amazing results in terms of mood improvement, temperament/temper, depression and energy levels.

Twitter version:  lose the Wellbutrin and get outside and start walking.   :K)

* edited to add:  about yoga, I personally think Hatha Yoga is the way to go--avoid the popular and trendy/gimmicky/Westernized yoga classes such as "hot yoga", etc.  Go with the classic.
Posted by: Peppermint Twist, Thursday, January 15, 2015, 3:09pm; Reply: 32
P.S.  Oh, I just noticed that you are also a fellow non-secretor.  Definitely get on CoQ10, but first order of biz:  jettison that Wellbutrin.  Just my two cents as a non-medical person, so you might want to consult with your doctor first.
Posted by: Amazone I., Thursday, January 15, 2015, 5:17pm; Reply: 33
Christopher... if you are an istp/j so called no 6 in the enneagram..would warmly recommend you to read:wisdom of the enneagram...(pray)(ok)(smile) or even if you've a bit more interest... read the 9 types of the enneagram...a bit more infos here... ;)
Wish you luck and don't worry dearle we're here to help you outta situation  :)
I'm nearly persuated that you got psychically blocked by something....I don't think this is physical nor hormonal...
Posted by: Christopher1, Thursday, January 15, 2015, 10:10pm; Reply: 34
I think it may be a "venous leak."

It describes my problem very well.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venous_leak

I can get a sort-of-decent erection, but it will go flaccid very quickly on its own. The blood will just flow out of the penis and go soft.

Any natural cures that are recommended for this problem? I believe surgery is the mainstream "cure."
Posted by: Christopher1, Thursday, January 15, 2015, 10:13pm; Reply: 35
Maybe I should use gotu kola or horse chestnut for a potential venous leak?
Posted by: Easy E, Thursday, January 15, 2015, 10:59pm; Reply: 36
They shouldn't hurt.  If you have any problems with them just stop using them.
Posted by: ruthiegirl, Thursday, January 15, 2015, 11:32pm; Reply: 37
Quoted from Peppermint Twist
I am just now seeing this thread that began many months ago.  I can't believe that, in the whole two pages of it, only a few people have said:  get off the Wellbutrin.

He's been off it for over a year but the problem persists.
Posted by: misspudding, Friday, January 16, 2015, 12:06am; Reply: 38
Could also try maca. It's an adaptogen that's supposed to increase libido. I've thought about it, myself.

Definitely sounds like a neurotransmitter issue. :( Try active B-vitamins (the coenzyme variety). Methyl b-12. Fish oil. Lots of omega-3. Magnesium. Milk thistle for hormonal stuff, but at your age, it shouldn't be hormonal. Dang man, that's rough.

I have similar issues. I'm androgen dominant (think PCOS) and very low triglycerides (think struggling thyroid and sex hormone production). When I go no grains and no alcohol/coffee, my libido cranks up again. Otherwise, no interest. I've had plenty of therapy, so no big mental issues holding me back except stress. Sounds like you aren't terribly stressed. Hope you figure something out!
Posted by: Easy E, Friday, January 16, 2015, 11:56am; Reply: 39
This is the blood type protocols for it.

http://www.dadamo.com/protocols/20.html
Posted by: Peppermint Twist, Friday, January 16, 2015, 6:55pm; Reply: 40
Quoted from ruthiegirl
He's been off it for over a year but the problem persists.

Thanks, Ruthie--I didn't (and still don't--but I'm always so rushed when on line anymore!) see where that is mentioned in the thread, but I will check now.*

I happen to have a similar issue myself and I've given up trying to figure out what the cause is (physical, psychological, or a combo package).  I'm too SOMETHING (ridiculously shy, which seems out of character to you all, I know!  ;D ) to bring this up to my doctor.  I haven't even HAD a doctor for a while until very recently.  Anyway, I did somehow pluck up the courage to bring it up to an OB/Gyn years ago, asking her DURING a routine pelvic exam if she saw anything anatomically amiss that could be causing the problem.  Her response was basically to laugh at me (or that's how it felt) and say she doesn't see anything obvious, or some such.  So then I said something like, well, should I be concerned about it, and that is the point at which she seemed kinda mocking or something (it was years ago, so I don't recall the specific text of the exchange, only her 'tude) and she said well, YEEAaaah, "most people consider it kind of important."   :o THANK YOU for making me feel more freakish and mortified than I already did to bring the issue up to you, lady.   :(  Never brought it up to a doctor again.  Which is SAD, as there could be some simple or even not-so-simple solution out there, but I'm too freaked out to talk about it with anyone...so I applaud Christopher's bravery in bringing up his issue.  We should not feel ashamed about such issues, so I don't know why I am the way I am about my sitch, but there you have that.

But, anyway, so I can relate to Christopher.  I thought his issue might be a simple cause and effect from the Wellbutrin, but if he's been off the Wellbutrin for a year, then that rules that out, eh?

Back to the drawing board.

* Edited to Add:  okay, now I see the post wherein Christopher says he's been off Wellbutrin since 2013.  Thanks again, Ruthie.
Posted by: PCUK-Positive, Monday, January 19, 2015, 1:20am; Reply: 41
Do you have any circulation coldness? cold fingers, colds ears, cold head, cold legs ect?
Posted by: PCUK-Positive, Monday, January 19, 2015, 1:26am; Reply: 42
Read this and thought it might be relevant

"I keep seeing borax as a suggestion for curing ED. Isn't it curious no one here has mentioned that borax is used to chelate fluoride from the body. I wonder if maybe you could save a step by not drinking fluoride or brushing with fluoridated toothpaste. Isn't it also curious that Viagra and the other pills for ED began to show up in the market not long after they began to fluoridate the water."
Posted by: Peppermint Twist, Monday, January 19, 2015, 3:26pm; Reply: 43
Quoted from PCUK-Positive
Do you have any circulation coldness? cold fingers, colds ears, cold head, cold legs ect?

Me, or Christopher?  (think)

If me, yes, and this first one will sound weird but my nose and around my nose, but that is "iatrogenic" in origin, i.e., it is caused by 2 botched surgeries in that area long ago.   >:(  So no mystery there.  Also, in the past year or so, my right hand will get very cold if it is cold outside, and apparently that is due to a compressed nerve (carpal tunnel), but that has not been confirmed by any sort of testing, other than my previous chiropractor doing a (painful!) manual test on it, which he seemed to think is definitive.

Other than those two areas, both of which seem to be "local", root-cause-wise, no I don't seem to get unnaturally cold in any area of my bod.  In fact, when I lived up north, it was the other way around and I used to "run hot" (I always wanted to be somewhere like Vermont or Alaska *lol*).  But, now that I had to move to Florida back at the end of '93 due to the aforementioned iatrogenic prob, my "blood has thinned out", as the locals say, and now I have totally changed and can't tolerate cold AT ALL.  If it gets below 70, I'm not a happpy camper at all *lol*.

...'Course, you were probably talking to Christopher anyway *lol*.  Just thought it might be me, as your Q was right below my last post.  If not, sorry for thinking the world revolves around my fabulously interesting self.  (woot)
Posted by: PCUK-Positive, Tuesday, January 20, 2015, 11:12am; Reply: 44
Some of the foods you eat have the ability to help produce nitric oxide in the body … if conditions are just right. The dietary nitrate to nitric oxide (N-O) conversion begins with your saliva. That’s why the bacterial environment in your mouth is so important. Friendly bacteria help to produce nitric oxide from dietary nitrates.
If you’re a regular mouthwash user, you may be thwarting this process. Mouthwashes kill the bad, odour-causing bacteria, but they also kill the friendly bacteria that are needed for nitric oxide production. Without the dietary nitrate to nitric oxide process that begins with your saliva, you don’t get the full nitric oxide benefit.
Nitric oxide levels already fall naturally as you age. An oral environment that doesn't support conversion of dietary nitrates makes this problem even worse. To replenish your nitric oxide levels, you may want to skip the mouthwash
Posted by: KimonoKat, Wednesday, January 21, 2015, 8:29am; Reply: 45
Unfortunately, I don't have anything to offer but I hope that you keep searching and get an answer soon. <3
Posted by: san j, Saturday, January 24, 2015, 10:42pm; Reply: 46
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Posted by: san j, Monday, January 26, 2015, 3:53am; Reply: 47
Quoted from Christopher1
Maybe I should use gotu kola or horse chestnut for a potential venous leak?


Oh, and did I mention?
See a doctor, as in MD: A urologist.
Someone qualified to deal with the physiology. A "potential venous leak" may jibe with the wikipedia article that speaks to you, but to go self-prescribing herbal remedies for a condition no one has seen on, say, CT or other venous-angiographic scan, would be a waste of energy, IMO.

I see that you're in Seattle -- not exactly a remote spot. Plenty of urologists specialize in male sexual dysfunction, and in a very young man such as yourself they would be extremely concerned and diligent to diagnose and treat you.

If you are not interested in allopathic medical treatments, at the very least avail yourself of diagnostic technology, to find out what's wrong. Does your wife not suggest the same? Most couples in this age group - most men of any age - are absolutely devastated by the dysfunction that is plaguing you.
If it's just an internet conversational topic for you, however, I suppose Supplement Roulette is as interesting a hobby as any other.
Posted by: Christopher1, Thursday, January 29, 2015, 4:49am; Reply: 48
Quoted from PCUK-Positive
Do you have any circulation coldness? cold fingers, colds ears, cold head, cold legs ect?


No - quite warm, actually.
Posted by: Christopher1, Thursday, January 29, 2015, 4:49am; Reply: 49
Quoted from PCUK-Positive
Read this and thought it might be relevant

"I keep seeing borax as a suggestion for curing ED. Isn't it curious no one here has mentioned that borax is used to chelate fluoride from the body. I wonder if maybe you could save a step by not drinking fluoride or brushing with fluoridated toothpaste. Isn't it also curious that Viagra and the other pills for ED began to show up in the market not long after they began to fluoridate the water."


Interesting.
Posted by: Christopher1, Thursday, January 29, 2015, 4:51am; Reply: 50
Quoted from PCUK-Positive
Some of the foods you eat have the ability to help produce nitric oxide in the body … if conditions are just right. The dietary nitrate to nitric oxide (N-O) conversion begins with your saliva. That’s why the bacterial environment in your mouth is so important. Friendly bacteria help to produce nitric oxide from dietary nitrates.
If you’re a regular mouthwash user, you may be thwarting this process. Mouthwashes kill the bad, odour-causing bacteria, but they also kill the friendly bacteria that are needed for nitric oxide production. Without the dietary nitrate to nitric oxide process that begins with your saliva, you don’t get the full nitric oxide benefit.
Nitric oxide levels already fall naturally as you age. An oral environment that doesn't support conversion of dietary nitrates makes this problem even worse. To replenish your nitric oxide levels, you may want to skip the mouthwash


I use Waleda salt toothpaste without fluoride and mouth wash.
Posted by: Christopher1, Thursday, January 29, 2015, 4:52am; Reply: 51
Quoted from KimonoKat
Unfortunately, I don't have anything to offer but I hope that you keep searching and get an answer soon. <3


Thank you!
Posted by: Christopher1, Thursday, January 29, 2015, 4:54am; Reply: 52
Quoted from san j


I am not alone at least.

Wellbutrin is supposed to increase dopamine and norepinephrine. Interestingly, tyrosine and rhodiola do not help my problem. Tyrosine makes it worse. :(
Posted by: Christopher1, Thursday, January 29, 2015, 4:55am; Reply: 53
Quoted from san j


Oh, and did I mention?
See a doctor, as in MD: A urologist.
Someone qualified to deal with the physiology. A "potential venous leak" may jibe with the wikipedia article that speaks to you, but to go self-prescribing herbal remedies for a condition no one has seen on, say, CT or other venous-angiographic scan, would be a waste of energy, IMO.


I see that you're in Seattle -- not exactly a remote spot. Plenty of urologists specialize in male sexual dysfunction, and in a very young man such as yourself they would be extremely concerned and diligent to diagnose and treat you.

If you are not interested in allopathic medical treatments, at the very least avail yourself of diagnostic technology, to find out what's wrong. Does your wife not suggest the same? Most couples in this age group - most men of any age - are absolutely devastated by the dysfunction that is plaguing you.
If it's just an internet conversational topic for you, however, I suppose Supplement Roulette is as interesting a hobby as any other.


You're right.

I will see the urologist.
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