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Posted by: Seraffa, Sunday, February 2, 2014, 2:53am
Ok, so I've got it.
A couple months ago i was 133/70 at the pharmacy. That was 10 pounds earlier in the game. The other day at the dentists after a hot tea, I was 140/90 on the left arm and 135/90 on the right arm.

Here's some tips I dredged up from the 'net about lowering all this naturally, although, I have been exercising for 2 weeks and have not seen any change yet, except happiness that I can exercise again after a candida cleanse that was affecting my adrenal function:

Go for power walks
Do Deep Breathing for relaxation
eat your peas, tomatoes, sweet potatoes, and dried fruits for potassium
avoid exess salt
dark chocolate ok
take 60 to 100 mg coq10 daily
light drinking ok and better than no drinking
hibiscus tea!
have a work cutoff point each day
listen to music
cure your snoring by checking aldosterone levels
dairy ok!


I was going to email Andrea WSec about the snoring and the CoQ10 but thought it might be quicker to write here, since she's a busy nurse anyway. 2 years ago I did start snoring a bit but not to the point of sleep apnea.

The weight is 209 pounds. I've lost all my former good looks.
To the best of my ability I have lessened the stress around here re: living with a mentally ill person that doesn't want to cure themselves.

However, in reality, I still have NOT chosen a living person I want to look up to (as I had with success in the past) to get the weight off. And here - please don't tell me that "online forums" will do that for me, because I haven't found a single person in them yet that inspires me to the point I need to be inspired; nothing resonates that much except a friendly willingness to "do what's right". It's not quite Richard Simmons, but on the opposite end of the spectrum, I already know it's NOT Jillian Michaels! Said person must be ~~~ somewhere in the middle of all this ~~~~

Is it worth it to also get one of those $125 tests that find out where you narrowing arteries/and or clots would be in your body to prevent premature heart attack and stroke  ??) I've always thought the promises of those tests were fascinating.
Posted by: ginnyTN, Sunday, February 2, 2014, 3:23am; Reply: 1
I'm still trying to find the right combination of things that will lower my BP and keep it steady, but from what I've read meditation done properly works as well as anything - if you can find the quiet time to relax and clear your mind.

For your snoring problem:  Do the fresh lemon juice in hot water every single morning first thing.  My husband who is also an A used to snore so loud it sounded like a jackhammer that they use to break up pavement on the streets.  Really!  After doing the lemon juice and water for a few weeks he hardly ever snores anymore and if he does it is quiet!  Who would have thought such a big blessing could come from a little yellow fruit?  You do have to keep drinking it for it to keep working.  
Posted by: Chloe, Sunday, February 2, 2014, 3:25am; Reply: 2
Magnesium lowers blood pressure.  Cheapest form is magnesium oil.  Transdermal spray.
Posted by: Lola, Sunday, February 2, 2014, 4:00am; Reply: 3
licorice
Posted by: Seraffa, Sunday, February 2, 2014, 5:40pm; Reply: 4
(ok)! very interesting so far. I also re-read the cardiovascular protocols.

I am sorry if I sounded like a hard-head about "being inspired", but it is a real obstacle I perceive as compared to when the fitness movement 30 years ago was "really fun" and promoting "prevention." I don't think today is about "prevention" at all but is hyper-aggressive and centers around a "state of alarm" at what we've become and seeks to cure it with "boot camps" and "reality shows".

If someone has a recommendation about unsung "fitness heroes" overseas that I have not read about yet, please tell me who you like and help me find their webpage.....
Posted by: walk_the_walk, Sunday, February 2, 2014, 5:58pm; Reply: 5
Hi there Seraffa

I've read that Yoga "Pranayama" breathing is particularly effective in reducing high BP.

There is also a Hunter stress/cortisol reducing breathing exercise in the Geno book "Alternate Nostril Breathing"  on page 204 (also a Yoga technique). Now Dr. D's instructions don't stipulate, but I read elsewhere that doing this exercise sitting up is preferable/more effective - (I used to incorporate it while I was doing my Gatherer warm down lengthening stretches while lying down).

The only other thing I would add to Lola's post above about Licorice is that on Page 136 of LIVE Right it advises …"Avoid crude liquorice preparations, as they contain a component of the plant that can cause elevated blood pressure. This component has been removed in De-Glycyrrhizinated Licorice (DGL)"….

Final Point - rather than just listening to music - SING - I find singing very relaxing - you might also enjoy joining a local choir - that too is good for the soul (whether religious or not) -  I live in a small community of less than 2000 people in a remote area of Dartmoor National Park and we have a Pub Choir (all ladies doing easy listening hits)…

Cymru Am Byth!
Posted by: Seraffa, Sunday, February 2, 2014, 6:03pm; Reply: 6
Quoted from walk_the_walk
Hi there Seraffa

I've read that Yoga "Pranayama" breathing is particularly effective in reducing high BP.

There is also a Hunter stress/cortisol reducing breathing exercise in the Geno book "Alternate Nostril Breathing"  on page 204. Now Dr. D's instructions don't stipulate, but I read elsewhere that doing this exercise sitting up is preferable/more effective - (I used to incorporate it while I was doing my Gatherer warm down lengthening stretches).

The only other thing I would add to Lola's post above about Licorice is that on Page 136 of LIVE Right it advises …"Avoid crude liquorice preparations, as they contain a component of the plant that can cause elevated blood pressure. This component has been removed in De-Glycyrrhizinated Licorice (DGL)"….

Cymru Am Byth!


Diolch, Bach!  ;D
Posted by: Amazone I., Monday, February 3, 2014, 8:55am; Reply: 7
when being overweight doesn't play the main role, I observed a lot ot psychosomatics in that field... a lot of stress, anger and fears can be very tricky and cause higher bp, too and then watch out your amounts of beverages, salt intake and as said: stress factors... a lot is doable with autogenic training (nach Dr.Schulze) relaxing methods and of cours the a  and o are: reducing weight!

So far.... :-/...staying compliant, reducing the food amounts and comeing along with
sports should do the trick :D... wish you good luck and loads of forces
Posted by: Spring, Monday, February 3, 2014, 7:51pm; Reply: 8
I have learned that there are a lot of people whose BP is not affected by salt at all. They are very lucky. Sea salt does not affect me. I love sea salt!! In fact, it is the only salt I have ever enjoyed in my entire life!
Posted by: Mrs T O+, Monday, February 3, 2014, 11:43pm; Reply: 9
For years, mine was 110/60, but in recent years it has been creeping up. I haven't been taking a reading that often to see what it really is these years, but I suspect it is higher in general.
I think that is because I used to walk more often. For about 15 years, I was walking about 20 miles a week.
Since 2009, it has been half that & with this crazy winter, very little. I think that is an important factor as most of my relatives in my very small family have high blood pressure. I think the walking & the absence of refined sugar for 30ish years are big factors.

Best wishes for a resolution to your health issues.
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