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Posted by: C_Sharp, Saturday, November 9, 2013, 2:07pm
Ask Dr. D’Adamo: Why are there inconsistencies in the books?



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The different books are in different stages of upgrade or complexity. For example: First book (Eat Right 4 Your Type) was a basic synthesis of the concept. It had to make some judgements regarding homogenizing information if it was secretor status specific. If a food was deemed a more serious avoid for a non secretor than it might be as a neutral or beneficial for a secretor, then the non-secretor value was used.


More:
http://northamericanpharmacal.com/living/2013/11/ask-dr-dadamo-why-are-there-inconsistencies-in-the-books/

(Only deals with blood type diet books, not GenoType or SWAMI)
Posted by: Goldie, Saturday, November 9, 2013, 2:32pm; Reply: 1
Even the Swami of last week is not up to date..

When I recently had a visit after my recent cancer experience, I was issued a new list with deep blue typing that is highlighting the cancer related food values.

I am now studying the writings on the Eat Right website and study why I am to take this or that vitamin, mineral or a tincture of sorts.   I am learning that Metformin as a drug might be affecting my B 12 .. on issue I have been dealing with every so often.. So while the diabetes or Cancer books provide some info, one either topic, my new Swami entries are educational especially when I read up on why  the why..

Dr D has long gone away from 18 year old books .. even though for basic info they serve a great value, but the learning since then is exponentially way beyond those pages.

The more we discover who we are in the space and time we live in, the more we learn to adjust, to change and to re-evaluate.  I test some things on me, and if there is no diff, then maybe there is no differences.. But most always I find that the basic principals are a good place to start and then moving forward step by step in additional learning. I am now doing that in the new expanded http://www.eatright4yourtype.com webpages.  

I had to search for a long time to find the pages on Sups A-Z but even the first page was worth the time spent 'finding' the info.   I am not good at maneuvering all over that new site, I find it frustrating until I learn how it is set up, but then the pleasure of learning is of great value.  It puts a whole new spin at what I used to know, even that info has been way upgraded and expanded..

Moving on.... moving on.. moving on..
Posted by: ABJoe, Saturday, November 9, 2013, 3:02pm; Reply: 2
Quoted from Goldie
Even the Swami of last week is not up to date..

I assume this is comparing a SWAMI Xpress that you did versus a SWAMI Genotype done at the clinic...  If this is true, I would expect the practitioner version to provide more targeted output since the practitioners have more variables to adjust depending on the patient information.

This doesn't mean that the SWAMI Xpress is outdated or bad however.  It is still major leaps ahead of what standard nutritionists are telling patients.
Posted by: Goldie, Saturday, November 9, 2013, 4:01pm; Reply: 3
I was told a long while ago that the swamis are the same.. just that the professional swami contains the ability of having several Swamis, one each for a different client.. (at a price for each - choices 5 or 8)

I am sure that there is less of a difference, but that measurements and all other things would have to be the same..

In MY last Visit Swami, I have no comparison, as they switched me from nonnie to not being nonnie any more... so MUCH changed..  

I guess I could alter my old/own Swami and see what happens.. but I would not get Deep Blue designations..   Right now they are important to me.


The importance of my answer is only to show how far Dr D has moved on since first writing his first set of BTD books..or even the Geno books.... He moved on, we have to catch up.. start running, I think I will never catch up.. haha LOL


Posted by: C_Sharp, Saturday, November 9, 2013, 5:19pm; Reply: 4
Quoted from Goldie
I was told a long while ago that the swamis are the same.. just that the professional swami contains the ability of having several Swamis, one each for a different client.. (at a price for each - choices 5 or 8 )





This is not true.

There are over 200 additional switches in the SWAMI GenoType version that are not present in the SWAMI Xpress.

The product used by professional is not just the consumer version with a volume license.

SWAMI GenoType is designated for professionals because that have the training and expertise to know how to flip the additional switches.

Flipping the switches incorrectly can result in a worse diet rather the a better diet.

The consumer version is designed so that it is unlikely that untrained consumers will make mistakes that would result in an inappropriate diet plan.


One of the additional switch is to invoke deep blue for particular health conditions.

Deep blue substantially diet recommendations. It would not be possible to create a similar diet plan in SWAMI Xpress.

It is possible for me to run SWAMI GenoType to create a diet report that is the same as created in SWAMI Xpress.  But that is done by disabling all the advanced features and kicking in the pragmatics from the Xpress version.  But if you do that you might as well have used the Xpress version.  

One uses the GenoType version because some people have health/genetic conditions that are not fully addressed in the Xpress version. In the hands of a trained clinician you can get a more customized plan for people that need it using the GenoType product.  
Posted by: Goldie, Saturday, November 9, 2013, 10:24pm; Reply: 5
wow Things have changed even since I asked about that a few years ago...

thanks for the explanation..

actually now maybe other things make a little better sense to me ..  
Posted by: PCUK-Positive, Sunday, November 10, 2013, 12:36pm; Reply: 6
Absolutely the Professional Swami is much more complex and precise.
Posted by: Amazone I., Sunday, November 10, 2013, 2:48pm; Reply: 7
perhaps should we add another version C_sharp... not all of us are true *experts* in geno-lines... coz this I now remarked by studying  the info's in *molecular biology & translational science* of Bouchard & Ordovas from 2012... in this book it is still mentioned that none of the existing meanings- systems seems.. or still is/are able to give correct aplications nor suggestions or true genetical related informations in nutrigenetics nor genomics...!!! It depends here also from the point of view...and thus also seems to be taken in responsability of the so called *international school medicine* which isn't related in any kind to Dr. P.D'Adamos teachings...!

Here we must honour and respect and of course accept  another approach...called *measurings*..... but there are a lot of different measurements and mostly + - all of those lead to similar adoptions of consequences... called nutrigenomics...but not  indeed inclining  true *metabolic researches* coz here we are limited in NOT closing up a living system.... as often those blubber in their theories but Peter never ever did!!! ...... ;D :D ;D 8)..........

The mentioned book above still shows up that none of the genuine testings of metabolomics nor nutrigenetics-genomics ...are congruent....... so far here I think
those need further of times... but in respect to Dr. Peter D'Adamo I think, and was
also sustained by my *father of education* Prof. Uhlenbruck...that the direction of P.D is right and that all is +- much easier then thought......... ;D coz if I compare my old teachings to those... I come back vividely that nothing here is new but only wrapped into new coats !!!!!! Or better said: spelled into more * conflicting labels to get separated to the normal peeps??? As usual in the 19.th
century when all those needed to expell all in greek or latin language... ok up from now on I will talk to you in hebrew mix and arab / frensh-iiiinngglish pidginings.... ...sorry no joke but this is truly happening to get YOU all confused!!! .......... ::)

when I do add my knowledge of bioinformatics...entre-autre and energetic medicine.. it was even earlier clear for me that Dr. D. is..was..always on the right track...this I always mentioned since I entered those forums !!! But ok perhaps wasn't I that clear for all to be..get understood in..with my bad *innggglish- bla's -habits* ;) ;D.... :X
and a lot of other infos aren't that worth to go for...coz of vasted time & money... :D ;D(whistle)(smarty)...

I'm wandering that now we get furthermore allowness of genetical testings of only 8 genoms to provide infos and other terms for: weightloss programs..etc... none of the swiss courts gave the permission...since a while... we seem to be still  all  *illegal*...
(smarty)(funny)(shrug)(ondrugs) :X
Posted by: Goldie, Sunday, November 10, 2013, 3:47pm; Reply: 8
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Absolutely the Professional Swami is much more complex and precise.


This now very disconcerning.  I expected to have access to the best there is.

I am expecting changes to my SWAMI by year end... it was promised to me.

I am then hoping that we can have more access to what 'professionals' might think they know.

I am so tired of going to see a doctor and leave with some pills.  I wish to be educated.  I wish to be brought up to the best available information, talked to me or explained to me in such a way that I come away from a doctor visit knowing more of the why and how.

If there is a new group of professionals here, that know more than what know here, then I think this ought to be really made clear.  If it becomes another layer of paying someone else to just 'know' more because of some weekend learning, or to be able to bill for another set of visits, then that ought to become clear- at least here where we have invested much time one way or the other.

I have issues with those who would be more 'educated' because they have access to more buttons to click on in any computer program.  Many here have been constrained to function with the few buttons to check off in our SWAMI, leaving many issues not addressed, and yet we where given the impression that we had access to the latest (reasonable) available info.  

I am shocked to think all that was (empty assumption) making a expletive deleted out of me and .....

I am not going where Amazone is going above, that is outside info and has no issues in this narrow depiction of what we rely on to make - informed- best decisions here.  But it does make we concerned that we need to look elsewhere if we are not dealt with as 'consenting' adults of wanting to do the best we can do for our own health and care thereof...

Who then and where then are all those specialists that will know so much more and make us healthy?  where are all those specialits, and just how good is any one of them?  (I am excluding the CT offices of Dr. D. as he obviously 'knows' more.)

But anyone else HERE who went o see 'extra trained specialist' how was your experience?  Who would you recommend no matter the distances to travel? with out of pocket cost no issue.        




Posted by: ABJoe, Sunday, November 10, 2013, 8:04pm; Reply: 9
Quoted from Goldie
This now very disconcerning.  I expected to have access to the best there is.

SWAMI Xpress is far better than ANY other tool available to the general public for an individualized diet.  For anyone to be complaining about the amount of information available from SWAMI Xpress for the price is ridiculous!  Try getting that amount of accurate information from any allopathic Dr. visit.

Quoted from Goldie
Who then and where then are all those specialists that will know so much more and make us healthy?  where are all those specialits, and just how good is any one of them?  (I am excluding the CT offices of Dr. D. as he obviously 'knows' more.)

The "specialists" are listed at the Generative Medicine website:
http://www.generativemedicine.org/ifhi/memberlist.pl
Posted by: Goldie, Tuesday, November 12, 2013, 2:03pm; Reply: 10
How many different answers are there to plug in?

Posted by: C_Sharp, Tuesday, November 12, 2013, 2:21pm; Reply: 11
Quoted from Goldie

How many different answers are there to plug in?



From this thread:

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There are over 200 additional switches in the SWAMI GenoType version that are not present in the SWAMI Xpress.



Posted by: jayneeo, Tuesday, November 12, 2013, 4:54pm; Reply: 12

" Just trust Dr. D., he has done all the work," can be a dismaying response to a question.
At the same time I do not presume to have all my questions answered, as I realize that Dr. D. is a very busy man. I also realize that not everything can be easily answered due to complexity. Yet, the "All-Knowing White Coat" isn't what we're here for.
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