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Posted by: Goldie, Wednesday, October 30, 2013, 12:50pm
So I was in CT and met wonderful gentle caring people with Dr. Doyle and Yes Dr Peter D'Adamo.  

It took me forever to get there, but the place on the ocean afforded me 99% Oxygen, never experienced that before, felt wonderful.    
Driving home was easier, I had requested instructions and a map form Mapquest, which was easier than all other written info.  I suggest the office send the same to all who go there linking them from 'home' to the place.  One advantage would be that it would clearly tell me exactly how much time it takes to arrive there.  I was way late even though I started way early.  Sorry.

Then the students re-measured me and confirmed my Gatherer status, but CHANGED me to a Secretor status!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  I am Ok with that, but wonder why my earlier Medical test was WRONG many years ago? I could have been eating differently for all that time.

I asked Dr.D.  (nice to see Peter again after the many years since AZ.) What kind of milk -cream or low fat-to use for Quark? His answer, use goatmilk... haha

As for cancer prevention in my future... Drink Welches Grapejuice!!!  Man Had I heared that years ago, I might have avoided the cancer all together???!!!  I like the grapejuice -with water- it is so sweet and delish.   He reiterated that twice for cancer care!!!!!!!!!  So on the way home I bought Grapejuice it will be a staple in my life from now on...  I am Grateful Dr. D. THANKS.

As for the printout of my personalized SWAMI, I am now 'getting Deep Blue Cancer prevention suggestions...  I have not digested that.  Yet I sent on email to 'support@generativemedicine.org' and it came back.. I must fix that.  

Then I received a number of new sups I never had before.  I have not had time to use them so no report on them yet.  But the O Tea is delish.  It has a flavor all its own and does not remind me of green tea (which I do not like all that much.)    

I received a tincture that is tasty in a medicinal way.  Old-fashion medicine taste.  Have no idea what it does, short term use.

So I will plow ahead and see what I need to learn. I will report back and expect great new findings..

If I had a wish, then I would like to have a lecture on cancer prevention, stuff to learn before we get cancer.  

On my question on: will I be most likely a candidate to get cancer again in my future?  THE answer from all doctors is : YES!..

....So prevention is MOST important. I am pleased to have gone to the best advise givers I could find...  I am grateful for all the ones who went before me, to find the cancer, have the machinery to find it, so early, so little, and then the followup which (will have) saved my health.  Without it all I would have gotten was to be more and more sick and had to have a miserable life.  This way I am able to make better decisions and chose. Thanks for all that participate in health care, I expect never to have to have a full mastectomy - which- I would have to have if the cancer reoccurs.

All who read here and follow me here, I am grateful to you to.  I am allowed to tech, and learn.. a great gift.      
Posted by: BCgal, Wednesday, October 30, 2013, 1:07pm; Reply: 1
Great to hear that you had your appointment, Goldie.  And wonderful that you got specific direction for dealing with your cancer.  It really helps to get that experienced help so you could fine tune your food list.
What supplements did they put you on?
Posted by: yaeli, Wednesday, October 30, 2013, 1:14pm; Reply: 2
(clap) Goldie time to change also your avatar  :) :K)
Posted by: ruthiegirl, Wednesday, October 30, 2013, 1:46pm; Reply: 3
I guess this explains why you never had a problem with apples or cinnamon!

What other changes are there in your new food list?
Posted by: jayneeo, Wednesday, October 30, 2013, 3:46pm; Reply: 4
Wonderful!!! Thanks for sharing! ;D
Posted by: Seraffa, Wednesday, October 30, 2013, 4:08pm; Reply: 5
*hearts floating over my head*...nonnie to secretor......what a journey Goldie
Posted by: SquarePeg, Wednesday, October 30, 2013, 5:36pm; Reply: 6
Thank you for sharing your experience, Goldie!  I hope the change in diet that goes along with your secretor-ness brings about a great improvement!

Welches grape juice?  I hope your blood sugar doesn't go bonkers from it!

I write this half in jest: If you think the air in Bridgeport is wonderful compared with where you live, perhaps the best thing you can do for your health is move.

I guess maybe you were getting a sea breeze when you inhaled....
Posted by: Dianne, Wednesday, October 30, 2013, 5:57pm; Reply: 7
Quoted from Goldie


Then the students re-measured me and confirmed my Gatherer status, but CHANGED me to a Secretor status!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  I am Ok with that, but wonder why my earlier Medical test was WRONG many years ago? I could have been eating differently for all that time.

All who read here and follow me here, I am grateful to you to.  I am allowed to tech, and learn.. a great gift.      


Goldie - How did they determine that you are a secretor on this visit? Which test previously determined that you were a nonnie, was it blood or saliva test? Thanks.

It's great that you were able to go to Bridgeport!
Posted by: Amazone I., Wednesday, October 30, 2013, 6:35pm; Reply: 8
aahhha... good question Diane... :K)  the same here.... often so called *nonnies* were <re.-fracted* to sechis by blood tests of Lewis..trallala & cha-cha-cha's ;).. ;D :X... not that nice to admit for me as being the *initiator* eresse....;)........ ::) :B(clown)
Posted by: Jane, Wednesday, October 30, 2013, 7:10pm; Reply: 9
Goldie,
Glad to hear that your visit went well.  Interesting that you are secretor and not a non secretor.  I've often wondered if my secretor status is right.  At the time that I took the test I did have some dental problems that might have affected the results.  The last time I gave blood I asked if I could get my Lewis status but they couldn't do it.  I'll have to ask my PCP one of these days if she'll do it but I doubt my insurance will cover it.

Very interesting about the grape juice.
Hope you are doing well...
Jane
Posted by: Peppermint Twist, Wednesday, October 30, 2013, 7:29pm; Reply: 10
I’ve only been on the board sporadically in the last few years, so I didn’t realize you had cancer, Goldie.  I’m glad you are feeling so positive and being so proactive about targeted nutriceutical approaches.  That cancer is not gonna know what hit it!

Everyone who goes to see Dr. D always reports back how caring he and his staff are, and how the experience feels very attentive and thorough, instead of cold and assembly-line like.  I’m so glad you had a good experience, too.

Keep up the good work, nonnie no more!  If I were you, I’d get an organic grape juice brand instead of Welch’s, but if the Welch’s is pure grape juice and Dr. D himself recommended it, for sure feel good about using that, as I’m sure it is more economical.  Organic juices are VERY expensive.  I try to buy them when my HFS has sales, like they recently did on the pure pineapple.  I have two big jars of it in my cupboard.  Before that, they had a sale on pure cherry juice, so I had that.  Actually, the concord grape is usually one of the most reasonably priced of the 100% organic juices, so I would look into that, if I were you, but again, if you opt to go with the Welch’s, that's good, too.
Posted by: Chloe, Wednesday, October 30, 2013, 8:16pm; Reply: 11
Goldie I'm so glad you finally went to the clinic and so glad you were made to feel secure and comfortable there.  I can't say enough good things about Dr. Doyle, the shift students and the care my husband and I received there.(don't want to leave out Dr. D)  The entire building feels to me like a healing sanctuary....no other words to  describe the beautiful old house with such utter
charm and personality, a place filled with loving care and where potions and herbal compounds are personally formulated for each person.  I love the personalization of the care we receive there.

Not surprised you found the trip to Bridgeport a bit daunting.  Fortunately, my husband always does the driving, while I pay attention to my print out of a google map and listen to the prompts on the navigator....and despite that we've made many visits there, it's always an adventure getting there...
We're probably less than 45 minutes away but prefer to take backroads and avoid highway traffic
as much as we can, until we get to a point where we have little option but to finish our trip on a
highway.  I wish everyone on this forum had the ability to have one appointment with the shift
some time in their future... It's unforgettable.

Been thinking about you since you said you were going on Monday and so happy you've come back to report how it went.

Yes, Dr. D prescribes Welch's grape juice...just look for the pure 100% grape juice. Welch's also make about 4 different types of blends. which sitting on a supermarket shelf, all look similar.
Read labels.......some are blends of other juices, some contain fiber and additional ingredients....but the original 100% grape juice seems very pure... free from additives and preservatives.  Funny, I grew up drinking Welch's grape juice....tastes better to me than all other brands sold in the health
food store.

Keep updating on how you're doing....wishing you the very best of health {{{{{{hugs}}}}}
Posted by: Goldie, Wednesday, October 30, 2013, 10:44pm; Reply: 12
I changed the heading.. because...

OK my cancer is 'fed' by the hormone Estrogen....!~!! so then why do all the menopause Doctors and others make us believe that we do not have Estrogen as a hormone after menopause!!!???!!

If the body still makes hormones, should we not every so many years TEST to see if we make to much or whatever?  How is it that we allow that to go on unnoticed?

would it make sense not to tell us we have none instead of some.... some specific ones????

I mean I have hotflashes? every 45 minutes, still after 17 years????????
?????????/ If men would get hotflashes then we would know why ...

... and now the pill that creates more hotflashes... I mean really??????

What do you think is with this question.. put your thinking caps on and let me know! just what you would add here?   Could WE prevent cancer if we knew our hormone status?? I wonder????? NO one ever spoke about this : Ever!!! 8)


P/s Thanks all!
Posted by: jeanb, Thursday, October 31, 2013, 1:47am; Reply: 13
Hi Goldie:

There are quite a few books that talk about Estrogen dominance, breast and uterine cancer.  Dr. John Lee, Dr. Uzzi Reiss both write extensively about estrogen dependent cancers.  

They highly recommend using progesterone to block estrogen even after menopause, it is is indicated.

If you read their books, you will become familiar with symptoms of high estrogen, low progesterone and how your body feels.  My doctor allows me to adjust my dose of progesterone based on how my body feels without tests.
Posted by: aussielady582, Thursday, October 31, 2013, 1:54am; Reply: 14
grape juice, very good.  Nancy Lonsdorf's (USA) books good too for women's health, Ayurvedic perspective.  I am also inspired by Japanese people, maybe they are on the Okinawa Diet / hara hachi bu.  veg, fish, berries, etc etc and for some - maybe soy, grains.  we can learn from other cultures.  The Japanese also value family ties and traditions and their elderly. When I was there for a short visit, the calmness and good manners was lovely. Green tea, yes!
Posted by: Goldie, Thursday, October 31, 2013, 10:01am; Reply: 15
Hi Goldie:

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There are quite a few books that talk about Estrogen dominance, breast and uterine cancer.  Dr. John Lee, Dr. Uzzi Reiss both write extensively about estrogen dependent cancers.  

They highly recommend using progesterone to block estrogen even after menopause, it is is indicated.

If you read their books, you will become familiar with symptoms of high estrogen, low progesterone and how your body feels.  My doctor allows me to adjust my dose of progesterone based on how my body feels without tests.


All about hormones here....

I wish I had known that before.  I am upset, because i doctor once arrogantly told me that I had NO hormones after menopause, so why bother testing???  I understood that that have no worries.. I wish I would remember who it was, I might let him know about why I wanted to be tested a long time agto..

The more I think about it, I think Suzanne Somers is right... I wish I could have had my period for the rest of my life.  I read her books to late..

It might all nit have mattered, but now it seems to matter : suddenly??? why did it not matter before?  

I wonder if the same discoveries would also be effective for diabetes -reduction- if not pushing IT out for years... ?

Same for Altzheimers... If 50% of diabetics get ALTZHEIMERS, would it pay to look at Hormones there also... Like what hormones affect the brain, the nerve sheeting or the like?

Please share all you know about hormones.. we all need to learn.. re-learn.. what we think may be wrong..

I wonder why grapejuice?  and would Kedem grape juice be equal? or better? more sugar or less for diabetes, another hormone driven issue.
Posted by: yaeli, Thursday, October 31, 2013, 10:27am; Reply: 16
Quoted from Goldie
I wonder why grapejuice?  and would Kedem grape juice be equal? or better? more sugar or less for diabetes, another hormone driven issue.
Grape juice is rich in salvestrols. What is the dosage? Is 60 ml (1/4 of a cup) daily sufficient?

Posted by: Goldie, Thursday, October 31, 2013, 10:32am; Reply: 17
Nap Supplements here.  I am sharing just some of what was told to me, in the believe that we all here need to hear more directly from our own experiences what sups do for us. I think there is learning to be done with more view points. I learn from writing as well as answers form others.  I have no idea how long these take to work or do good, I am just sharing.. and only sharing half the info.. so you are all on your own looking at this..

I am typing nearly blind, I can not see the fine print today, will make corrections later. soorry.

I received cans of O tea.. nice, has a all-together different taste. looks like many pieces of twigs and stems.. nice combo.  Might be expensive, but so is living in Manhatten.. haha

Methil B-12 for diabetes for Replacing the Vit B12 lost by taking Metformin. No doctor ever told me that.  Should read the side eefects papers from the pharmacy.

Coptis,for diabtes .. a capsule I have not yet taken, will try to get started today, my first day home ..

Tripple Magnesium! for whatever / I forgot, but also the colon and kidneys?and heart cells all around, and intestinal regulation.. in pillform it is easier to take.  I will try.

Membrosia Complex, & Membrosia Fluidizerfor Hydration.  Might have worked since I took it yesterday.  Intercellular hydration, and maybe prevention of constipation/.. I need to learn more about it.. The taste is questionable? but ok..

Mitchella tincture, I like the medicine taste of it. Might be for urine  regulation as i pee to often during the night .. daytime too.. did that all my life.. should have tried this a hundred years ago.. will see and report.  Would be a great advantage.. I am hopeful.

Water.. 6-8 glasses, I do not drink water.. I am allowed to add frozen fruit for flavor.. maybe I will freeze some grapejuice in cubes and add them?

Helix for cancer now then discontinue..  I need to read up on it.. actually I need to read about all things.. It is time I took more interest..

What is exiting for me is that I never took aany of these items.. some cross over from diabetes to also clear up 'cancer' issues.. The catalouge might give way more info, if only we would read it..  

Posted by: yaeli, Thursday, October 31, 2013, 10:39am; Reply: 18
Goldie thank you so much for both accounts sharing about the visit to Dr. D's clinic and about the prescribed supps!  :K) (sunny) (book2)
Posted by: Goldie, Thursday, October 31, 2013, 11:01am; Reply: 19
Food list  I am stunned at being a secretor Now!!!  Wow the food list is so much more inclusive.  I could count the avoids on my fingers.  So many fewer. worth taking a look at.  for me shocking, and near frightening.  I can eat so much more...

Like i (believe) that mom B ate enough apples every night to keep her cancers away for decades.. either that or she never ate chicken during the years leading up to living in the US at age 70 when she stopped the apples and ate way to much chicken and got cancer -s - again.... !

So now apples are neutral for me... Nice, as they are also supposed to help with night time indigestion or acid reflux.  So now I can eat a slice before sleep.. Have no idea what it will do to my sugar?

Turkey is in the diabetes diet, so more for me now.  

Fish... they begged me to consider some.. only tuna in a can once a week, the fish is BIG and contaminated.. I might try Flounder or sole, or snapper with loads of lemon to kill the fish flavor.. OK, time I gave in and learned to be good to me.haha

One egg a day!!! ok that is difficult.. but time for a change, again,  i will maybe add veggies.. finally..

Dairy: Farmer cheese, ghee, as Beficials, no diamonds..
       Butter Cottage,Feta,....  milk??? indian buffalo??? ha??....
       Paneer cheese, Ricotta, Romanian... all are neutral..

       Kefalotyri and Parmesan, Quark (closest to yogurt*****), Port Du salute
       cheeses are black dot!  
       ***** DR D suggests: make Quark with goat  milk.. maaah... haha  
       I mean one can almost say : O's get cheses??????????????

Vegetable proteins, beans and nuts.. I will only miss pistacios when out shopping.. it was forbidden before too.  was agood quick food available in the car.   all other avoids are of no issue for me...I never ate them any how..

Fats and oil.. well I might still use olive Oil a diamond to control cravings..  

Carbs.. grains the list of benficials is endless... the avoid list is only whaeat, and only a few others 7 total!! life has changed... even neutrals are only 5 items.. wow!

Live foods.. well you all have your own list.. I just have issues with portions on all foods.. I think I can not eat alll those calories and not gain weight.. but I will take another look there too.  only a handful avoids there also.. and most are black dot!!!!!!!  
I even get cabage now!!!!!!.... and would you believe white potatoes??? Yes!!! haha what the world is coming to?????

Fruits... near NO avoids that are Not black dots...Wow again..  NO Banana.. !!! Dr James D' youre memory is honored by your sons work.. !!!!!! fondly...

Spices.. only 3 avoids.. Guarana, mace, black Pepper...

Beveriges.. you have your lists.. I have questions about portions and diabetes, but in frozen cubes it might work and provide variety and inclusion of many..
NO Coffee!  No white wine.. I never drink but like white wine..

In genharmonis foods there is o much more to connect with.. need to take anothe rlook at it.. way more choices.. pages of it.. way more..


I am going to list a number of recipies in..  
      
Posted by: Goldie, Thursday, October 31, 2013, 7:30pm; Reply: 20
If I had a wish, ( I do not know what I will type here, right now, but feel compelled, - like unfinished business--

Wish:::: It would be that each student would be required to come here, for on hour a month or whatever.. Reason being, there is a difference answering ideas and questions here, (even incognito) then just saying: take this and do that...

It is not enough for doctors to know the answers, it is not enough for me or others to just follow blindly..

I am not likely happy when a supplement nearly gags me, and it would help to know more of its composition????

I know that Dr D supervised all, so no issue there, but young students are a different kettle of fish.. They have to learn way more about humans.

I have a SWAMI, for years, I am used to it.  I have no need for a paper copy.  I think for those who have a computer, paper is out dated and bulky to be schlepped home.  (SWAMI will get adjusted = per Dr D.. thanks..)

The cookbook is great, its new and I do not have any yet... so yes that was a pleasure / a bonus..

The price of sups might not be doable for some, they add up and become on issue.  I will spend whatever it takes, --- for now as long as I can --- but ...  

The findings of the SWAMI testing is a good thing, since it changed my status, and things do change, the results are only as good as my input. Maybe a in-deep questioner before hand would let me know what will be expected ... no complaints.. just saying..  

In the end I received 'new' sups for both cancer prevention and diabetes.. a promise that my headaches might go away.. Just now I suffer greatly..

and for sure a follow up visit,, all is well.. and I can contact Dr Doyle, via email for questions and follow up.. so no real issues, but might have liked a list of videos which are used by Dr D to teach these youngish smart, pleasant student doctors... some are not much older then the years I was on the diet.. OK not quite so.. but hahaha..

It is hard for me to just follow this or that.. ... I am a poor follower..

YET I appreciate all that I had occasion to experience.. Thanks all for suggesting I go there.. sorry my 2x4 hour trip was sooo hair raising.. and that I was late arriving....

The staff and building are lovely..

I wish everyone all the best..          
Posted by: Chloe, Thursday, October 31, 2013, 8:50pm; Reply: 21
Goldie, FYI  -- the estrogen blocking drug you refused by conventional medicine is in  a class of
drugs called aromatase inhibitors....so are many natural herbs and foods.

http://www.naturalnews.com/026514_cancer_breast_natural.html
Posted by: yaeli, Friday, November 1, 2013, 4:30am; Reply: 22
Goldie I am very happy with your visit to the clinic, almost as if I went there myself. I wish I got a grip and went there already. And I am happy with your outcome:

a) Drink, drink, drink lots of water with a pinch of salt.

b) The Membrosia Combo, YAY!!!!!!!!  :D

c) No more coffee!!!!!!!!!!!!!  :D :K) 8) No number of exclamation marks would suffice.

Forget about yourself being a poor follower... shove it sideways.... all of this has no importance now... just do it do it do it, and REJOICE greatly  :K)

Feel well!

Yaeli















Posted by: Goldie, Friday, November 1, 2013, 5:45am; Reply: 23
Yes I am doing it, .. all of the sups and foods.

The first item i took was a liquid, and it never occurred to me to read it's ingredients.. when I gagad on it, I looked and sure enough it has fish oil in it..

There ought to be a checkoff against fishy taste.. The very good fluid, according to health advise might be good, but taking it will have to be in a different way.. I will have to pinch my nose and take it as spoon full and wash it down directly with grape juice to kill the fish smell...  I will try that tomorrow..

Many time it is just understanding what is going on.  The brain is so much part of what the impressions are via the taste buds.  It shocks me when I dislike something only to find it has something in it that is self-explaining.  I do not like fish.

I had taken a smoothy powder only to have a big belly pain.. on looking at the ingredients,- it had powdered milk in it.  I find prepared things often enough to be having some issues.  

Yet change is good, some things ae easy, and this fish-oil is going down or on my skin, one way or the other.. I owe it to the research that went before now.    
Posted by: Goldie, Friday, November 1, 2013, 5:51am; Reply: 24
Quoted Text

Goldie, FYI  -- the estrogen blocking drug you refused by conventional medicine is in  a class of
drugs called aromatase inhibitors....so are many natural herbs and foods.

http://www.naturalnews.com/026514_cancer_breast_natural.html


Cloe, what a difference a name makes.. Yes words matter, and changing the names or words make all the differences..  

Now I still have not decided what to do about it... the concept of taking the whole breast off if I should have a recurrence is not very appealing. I have done the bone scan for osteo advise, will see how strong my bones are.
Posted by: yaeli, Friday, November 1, 2013, 6:25am; Reply: 25
Goldie perhaps you can call the clinic and ask them if they can give you alternatives for the perparation with the fish oil and the whey powder.

Both these items are a punishment for me. In our childhood we were given a tablespoon of cod liver oil immediately followed by a glass of fresh oragne juice (an avoid of course, but of course we had no idea) to ease on the horrible taste.

Whey powder is even worse for me, I cannot have it no matter what. Sensing even its faintest smell makes me run away.
Posted by: Goldie, Friday, November 1, 2013, 1:07pm; Reply: 26
No i have no issues with the subs.. well... but you see at 250- a month it becomes on issue fast.  I have a freezer full of things I never finished.

If I had a choice I would have way more money for foods that make all the differences.  The foods would last for years, like so far coffee is good for Altzheimers, as is Trehalose Complex, mushrooms one a day, or asparagus, cooked any old way, onions all are cancer prevention.  I will have to decide what I can afford for years to come.  Years and I was told decades as I am going to get old!!!!

I had not received the Deep Blue food lists, but have asked it to be sent to me, I am exited to get it and then learn from it. I am going to look for foods that inhibit Estrogen.

Coloful foods will be much fun.. I am prepared to buy all sort of new foods honoring the research done by Dr D.  read my next post.  
Posted by: Goldie, Friday, November 1, 2013, 1:11pm; Reply: 27
One of my Doctors called me today:  Goodmorning I am Dr sosos .  Your bone density test is great. You have the bones of a young person!!!!!!!! Goodby.

And that without milk or dairy for 4 decades!  

DR D.  here is the proof that Your research is corrct!  O's do not need dairy to walk up straight, and be strong. Well done!   and you deserve all the credit.  

Yes I do get my calcium from meat!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Goldie, Friday, November 1, 2013, 3:41pm; Reply: 28
I just took the fish oil by the spoon holding my nose and washed it down with Membrosia and Grapejuice!  it worked... I can do it..  ;D

and....

I just remembered that I can look up all sups right here on line.. i just had to go to Eat Right 4 Your Type.com   I forgot about that site.. I wonder is it even listed here some place????

am in the process of reading this as written about Helix plus.. as I am typing and bringing here I am just laughing out loud... I would have to sit and make flip-cards to get half of the words.. but yes I will read up more and study.. Laugh with me please..

Go here and read..

http://www.dadamo.com/B2blogs/blogs/index.php/2006/03/19/helix-plus-burgundy-snail?blog=26
Posted by: ABJoe, Friday, November 1, 2013, 3:53pm; Reply: 29
Quoted from Goldie
I just remembered that I can look up all sups right here on line.. i just had to go to Eat Right 4 Your Type.com   I forgot about that site.. I wonder is it even listed here some place????

If you look at the right end of the dark blue bar above, you see "Products and Services" in the next to last position. Mouse over this and click on any of the items in the drop down menu to go to that part of the 4yourtype.com site.
Quoted from Goldie
am in the process of reading this as written about Helix plus.. as I am typing and bringing here I am just laughing out loud... I would have to sit and make flip-cards to get half of the words.. but yes I will read up more and study.. Laugh with me please..

Go here and read..

http://www.dadamo.com/B2blogs/blogs/index.php/2006/03/19/helix-plus-burgundy-snail?blog=26

The self-learning is all about keeping an online dictionary handy so we can break apart concepts we don't understand and add in as much definition as we need to be able too understand it...  The more you learn, the less you have to break down, so the faster it becomes...  Much success in your learning process, although, don't spend so much time that your exercise gets neglected...LOL!!!
Posted by: Goldie, Friday, November 1, 2013, 3:57pm; Reply: 30
Much success in your
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learning process, although, don't spend so much time that your exercise gets neglected...!!
!

Ohhhh i got caught!!!

well now then I have a question.. if the helix is good for a and AB  ,, hiw long would I O take it?  for life?  for 5 years?  I wonder..

I sure never thought I would eat snail!! :o  
Posted by: ABJoe, Friday, November 1, 2013, 4:55pm; Reply: 31
Quoted from Goldie
if the helix is good for a and AB  ,, hiw long would I O take it?  for life?  for 5 years?  I wonder..

I sure never thought I would eat snail!! :o  

I think this is a question best answered by your practitioner...

While it is specifically designed for the A/AB groups, doesn't mean that it won't work or will cause issues if used by the other types - just that it is more specific to those types.  

It may be that since you have a personal history of cancer that they think it best that you maintain a constant presence to reduce the possibility of return of the specific type you had.

There really are too many variables for me to know what they based their decisions on.
Posted by: Chloe, Friday, November 1, 2013, 5:39pm; Reply: 32
Quoted from Goldie
Much success in your!

Ohhhh i got caught!!!

well now then I have a question.. if the helix is good for a and AB  ,, hiw long would I O take it?  for life?  for 5 years?  I wonder..

I sure never thought I would eat snail!! :o  


All supplements given to you at the clinic are to be used until you return to the clinic to be re-evaluated.  Were you told when to make another appointment?  Most patients who have ongoing
medical issues return every 6 months....at least this has been mine and my husband's experience
and often our supplements change....many are eliminated, often we get new formulas to take.

You probably were given a bioimpedence test which measured how well your cells were able to
absorb nutrients.  So this has less to do with what you're presently taking but how much your
cell membranes have softened and allowed nutrients to enter and do your body good.  Each
time you return to the clinic, this test is repeated as part of your exam and progress is noted
which tells the practitioners if you're getting healthier or not.

To know from visit to visit if you're improving makes a huge difference in what comes next
with your supplements.

The integrity of your cells has everything to do with staying healthy....so I'd have imagined you
were told before you left the clinic when it was recommended for you to return.  This really shouldn't be a one time visit and supplements you were given that day to be taken forever.  If you're NOT going to go the route of conventional medicine, I really suggest you keep yourself updated with your own progress by having regular clinic visits.  This is too big an issue to just believe you can handle your current state of health without some type of ongoing alternative medical support.  At least this is my belief and how I perceive moving forward towards better health.

So your question really should be posed to Dr. Doyle....None of us really can play a great role
in the medical care that the clinic staff is providing for you.

Posted by: Goldie, Friday, November 1, 2013, 9:24pm; Reply: 33
Quoted Text
ABJoe
If you look at the right end of the dark blue bar above, you see "Products and Services" in the next to last position. Mouse over this and click on any of the items in the drop down menu to go to that part of the 4yourtype.com site.


I tried it, but no dice.. I will look some further.. It should be easier...
Posted by: Goldie, Friday, November 1, 2013, 9:55pm; Reply: 34
Chloe... You are right in what yu say.. I mull over what I find of interest.  I am no doubt happy to have gone there,I am no doubt believing that it is worth it to support my life/body with nutrients not available elsewhere.  I will be much more educated later when I had several visits..

I am indeed going to get new evaluations, and updtaes..  I am happy that you are there getting well.  I lready paid for the upcoming visit.. committment.
Posted by: Chloe, Saturday, November 2, 2013, 12:39am; Reply: 35
Quoted from Goldie
Chloe... You are right in what yu say.. I mull over what I find of interest.  I am no doubt happy to have gone there,I am no doubt believing that it is worth it to support my life/body with nutrients not available elsewhere.  I will be much more educated later when I had several visits..

I am indeed going to get new evaluations, and updtaes..  I am happy that you are there getting well.  I lready paid for the upcoming visit.. committment.


I can't tell you how happy it made me feel that you went to the clinic.  I hope you know you're
in good hands!  Write down all your questions for next visit. If I can help you answer any of them
I will...but care is so personal and specific, often the only people who know the answers are the
clinic staff!  

I do happen to know that helix is appropriate for blood type A.  I have snails listed as a beneficial
on my professional SWAMI.

Posted by: Goldie, Saturday, November 2, 2013, 1:21pm; Reply: 36
I have no answers, I have no questions, I have no long term plan.

I have 1000. a month to spend.  I have no issues with trying this or that, but I wish to know what I need to know about what i am taking.

I owe it to all to read about each item in Eat Right 4 Your Type. I owe a lot: to get educated, to apply what I know to what I need to know.

I see that I have to make on effort to overcome the burping from the fish oils.. yak.. I need to see what foods will be listed in Deep Blue.

Deep Blue is one color, is there a deep orange for diabetes?  Do you have a deep anything in your protocols?  (the black and white paper-copies are not working for this.. I am waiting for the color copies, (at a cost) and or I am awaiting two month when Dr D was promising to make big changes in my SWAMI.. I can wait.. I did not get sick over night i have time...    
Posted by: C_Sharp, Saturday, November 2, 2013, 5:00pm; Reply: 37
Quoted from Goldie
I need to see what foods will be listed in Deep Blue.

Deep Blue is one color, is there a deep orange for diabetes?  Do you have a deep anything in your protocols?    


Deep Blue is an option only available in SWAMI GenoType.

There is no deep orange.

Deep Blue refers to a a computer system made by IBM. It was used to run an artificial intelligence program

It was the first computer system that was able to defeat a human chess player at the world master level.

More info at:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_Blue_(chess_computer)




In SWAMI GenoType the deep blue setting is used to kick in an Artificial Intelligence agent. This agent scans the food lists and adjust the values assigned to foods to accomplish particular things. These changes are primarily based on treating a particular condition (rather than ranking food based on blood type or GenoType values).

The setting that tells the Deep Blue agent to adjust food values for "oncology management" is thought to be particularly good.

There are other deep blue adjustment options.

I have not used any of the non cancer settings in deep blue.

There was a planned deep blue option that would adjust food lists to contain foods with elements that enhance insulin sensitivity.

To my knowledge this option is not fully implemented at this time.

Even if this option was available you would only be able to select one
deep blue option at a time.
Posted by: Goldie, Saturday, November 2, 2013, 8:20pm; Reply: 38
Thanks for the info..

I was interested in deciding what foods might be of importance for my diabetes..  

I had cancer last month and had it for about 2 years... I took it out and am fine as far as that is concerned.. I need to find out just what the likelihood is of getting another cancer, where and how soon?

I had a stage 1 cancer, so no metastatic.. no spreading.. My breast was NOT radiated all over just a small spot... very different from other methods.. I might be able to have several such spots being operated on... BECAUSE I did not get radiation ALL over my breast as is done generally.  This is a BIG difference.. and NEW to everybody.

On the other hand more importantly.. as far as I am looking at my long term health, is my Diabetic status.  

That I can and must do something about.  I must drop weight, I must adhere to that eating plan and that does not include all the fruit which is beneficial for cancer..  

One of the fruits now is grapejuice, I can manage it for both conditions!!!

In the Cancer Swami it is showing as neutral... But dr D advised to drink grapejuice... You can bet your bottom dollar that I am listening as if it was the word of god!  I will drink grapejuice.  

In the old diabetic SwAMI grapejuice is also neutral.. so it is one of the very few neutrals i will include in my meal plan for sure without question.

I am looking for way more things like that..

I love my paper SWAMI with the blue colr highlited foods good for Cancer... fun to study and compare..  
Posted by: md, Sunday, November 3, 2013, 1:27am; Reply: 39
Are you supposed to dilute the grape juice or drink it as is?  How much can you drink at a time?  Just wondering!
Posted by: Goldie, Sunday, November 3, 2013, 11:42am; Reply: 40
Grapejuice, 6-8 oz glass or cup : Frequency: 3 servings daily

Fruits: 1 cup or 1 large Fruit: Frequency 2 servings daily.

For cancer care that is great.  No doubt the pigmented/color nourishes the cells.

I would wonder if it means fruits AND juice??????    If it was not for the diabetes in my case, then I think it would be just right.

For mom an apple or two would have been the norm, and I would have anyone with cancer do that.................  Apples is NOW a superfood for me as 'secretor'?!? wow.

But not blue type reserved for cancer...  In applejuice it is best avoided!!!

I guess the pigmented color food is what is good.

For my constant battle to drop weight (for diabetes) it is I think more than I could handle unless I dilute the sugar by AT the least drink lots of water with it.    

After the many years with diabetes, I find many things to sweet, juices is one of these.  

Before bed time a slice of apple is supposed to be good for indigestion/ good for th colon too?  

However I think that hydration is the issue here for me, as I have a hard time drinking most anything.  ... so becoming inventive once again is of high value.

one other thing... the change of apple status is interesting, need to look at more foods that were avoids before... interesting in the very least.


Posted by: yaeli, Sunday, November 3, 2013, 1:18pm; Reply: 41
Quoted from Goldie
Grapejuice, 6-8 oz glass or cup : Frequency: 3 servings daily

Thanks Goldie. This is a a LOT (of sugar)!!!  :o (think) As Chloe suggested, maybe this dosage is for a limited time.
Posted by: ABJoe, Sunday, November 3, 2013, 2:36pm; Reply: 42
Quoted from Goldie
Grapejuice, 6-8 oz glass or cup : Frequency: 3 servings daily

Fruits: 1 cup or 1 large Fruit: Frequency 2 servings daily.

For cancer care that is great.  No doubt the pigmented/color nourishes the cells.

I would wonder if it means fruits AND juice??????    If it was not for the diabetes in my case, then I think it would be just right.

The juice ratings are listed under "Beverages", while the whole fruit is listed in "Fruits".
Posted by: Amazone I., Monday, November 4, 2013, 5:00pm; Reply: 43
snails... y u m m y... des escargots à la provencale.... ;D ;D(drool)(drool)(smarty)
a lot of garlic, fatty acids ;) ...fresh herbs... what do I want more??)... some fresh
baguette... of course ;) ;D and a glass of Bordeaux....(evil)(evil)(whistle)(shrug)
Posted by: SquarePeg, Tuesday, November 5, 2013, 12:46am; Reply: 44
Goldie, if seltzer is still beneficial for you, you could make grape soda!
Posted by: Averno, Tuesday, November 5, 2013, 1:50am; Reply: 45
Quoted from Amazone I.
... what do I want more??)... some fresh
baguette... of course ;) ;D and a glass of Bordeaux....(evil)(evil)(whistle)(shrug)


(hand)(naughty)(evil)(clown)

Posted by: Goldie, Tuesday, November 5, 2013, 10:49am; Reply: 46
quote]The juice ratings are listed under "Beverages", while the whole fruit is listed in "Fruits".[/quote]

Dr D advised Grapejuice for my serious cancer prevention in future.  He meant it real serious.  So grapejuice it would be - he did not say how much- but meant grape juice.  So for me it will be as much as I can handle.  

I think diluting it is not the issue, it would trigger diabetes spikes either way.  It is the total amount all through out the day that will matter- yes diluted will give me more liquid... just as important.

As cancer prevention it will be juice, not grapes.    

Yet, with the answers on the list in different places, would that normally mean both grapes and juice should/ought could or would be Intended


I am never certain about those multy listings like grains and veg proteins, all that food? -- in eggs, meat, fish or chicken it is easy -- one for each meal. But for O's would you ever do beans and meat? would that be 2 proteins? just asking..

A man working outdorrs in winter might be able to eat so and stay slimmIF he has the best genes that do not look at food as a fat making machine.  

Those who are diagnosed as future diabetics - as we should all be aware of who are Gatheres to begin with- we all are in that murky genepool.. should we all  consider eating for diabetes prevention starting at age 20.   In some way I actually did.. as I need to drop weight ever since.

..and still my food needs today are so little, there is no way of eating normal portions any more.  I admit I am not doing the exercising I should.  Guilty but I just do not get any pleasure out of it, yet often pain.  Lucky I have bone density levels of a 20 year old, same with kidney health..  

as for grapejuice I forfeit all other sweets to be able to drink it.  This is where Dr. D. gets my total attention.

I am bringing my sugar down every 2 week by 10 points.  I am eating protein and low carb (striving for 30 carbs)... I must drop some weight and stay sugar free/except for the grapejuice for now.  It is a nice treat to swig a mouthful here and there.

Today I will make a greens soup if I get to town.  I have not decided if it will be green leafy when I will eat it- al dente for the green leaves- or pureed when I have another plate for dinner. Have not done that ever, so will be new to my pallet.    
Posted by: md, Wednesday, November 6, 2013, 12:40am; Reply: 47
I wonder if combining the daily portion of grape juice with your daily portion of water would be good to do and you could sip that throughout the day?
Posted by: Goldie, Wednesday, November 6, 2013, 1:52pm; Reply: 48
that is somewhat what I do... anything to help me drink water.
Posted by: yaeli, Wednesday, November 6, 2013, 4:58pm; Reply: 49
8 glasses of water daily is not so much if you consider all the supps:

1glass lemon water

2-3 glasses: 1 with each dosage of deflect

1 glass with the Membrosia Combo

4 glasses of green tea

- we are at 8 already!

Water is much easeier to drink together with some compliant juice.
Posted by: PADURETU SORIN, Wednesday, November 6, 2013, 6:13pm; Reply: 50
For Goldie:

for cancer concern  you can check Dr.Hulda Clark(The cure for all cancers) site.
Seems to be interesting.
Posted by: Amazone I., Wednesday, November 6, 2013, 6:23pm; Reply: 51
ahem yess Avernolein..what do you would prefer to share...the bordeaux or the snails??) ;) ;D... :X :B :o ;)(whistle)(hehe)(ondrugs)(shrug)(grin)
Posted by: Goldie, Thursday, November 7, 2013, 12:14pm; Reply: 52
Yes I am finding the grape juice just right for more of the liquid that is good for us all.

I like a lime slice left in water delish too.
Posted by: yaeli, Wednesday, November 13, 2013, 10:13am; Reply: 53
Quoted from yaeli
8 glasses of water daily is not so much if you consider all the supps:

1glass lemon water

2-3 glasses: 1 with each dosage of deflect

1 glass with the Membrosia Combo

4 glasses of green tea

- we are at 8 already!

Water is much easier to drink together with some compliant juice.


Last week I bought an infusion in tea bags prepared by an ND according to an ayurvedic recipe to be taken during 40 days, 1 liter (from 1 sachet) daily. The ND was visiting the organic store. He diagnosed me superficially en-passant, and recommended an infusion (from the 7 different infusions he prepares) intended for detoxing/cleansing the GI tract and the repiratory system. I checked the ingredients. It is based on Ashwagandha and contains 14 herbs, all beneficials (superfoods and neutral) except the black pepper - an avoid. It is very mild, and I feel more quiet and better balanced around the clock. Like the juices, it is much easier to drink than just water. It makes 4 glasses daily, and with 4-6 glasses of green tea and 1 glass lemon water I am done already.
Posted by: yaeli, Wednesday, November 13, 2013, 6:36pm; Reply: 54
Quoted from yaeli
Last week I bought an infusion in tea bags prepared by an ND according to an ayurvedic recipe to be taken during 40 days, 1 liter (from 1 sachet) daily.
...
It is based on Ashwagandha and contains 14 herbs, all beneficials (superfoods and neutral) except the black pepper - an avoid. It is very mild, and I feel more quiet and better balanced around the clock.
Looks so nice: No way! The romance with this infusion lasted 7 days. On the 7th day irritating aches began in my stomach. Serves me right. What a stupidity to close my eyes on black pepper.

Posted by: Goldie, Wednesday, November 13, 2013, 8:38pm; Reply: 55
I wish I could share with anyone interested a look at what cancer is, how what where and all else.. I found this after searching for a long time where I could get some basic understanding and be able to make some decisions based on information.

I will find a way to communicate with anyone interested in this information.

I think it could save many a life (experience)...
Posted by: Amazone I., Wednesday, November 13, 2013, 8:59pm; Reply: 56
GOLDIE....??) !!!!!!!!!!! :o(eek)(shrug)(mad) have you ever understood the propositions given in other threads??)..How are you able to use such assumptions??)do you thinke we're all fools??)...

manno Madl..was ist los mit Dir wie kannst Du sowas überhaupt irgendwo auf ein board bringen??)..Sag mal... what's up girlie-dearle ...??)... :o :-/ :P Ich persönlich fühle mich absolut verarscht und bekloppt mit diesen Aeusserungen...jeder hat von uns teilgenommen and Deiner Geschichte und Du haust uns jetzt DAS um die Ohren??) Mehr als merkwürdig...findest Du selber nicht auch ??)... :-/
Posted by: Goldie, Wednesday, November 13, 2013, 11:36pm; Reply: 57
No Amazon.. I was not saying that you or all of you do not know what you are talking about.. To the contrary..

What I have been asking for and looking for was a ultimate explanation of how I got a cancer, why and where, and for you warum.   I am familiar with cancer, yes we all have it in my family, but I have not much of on idea of why..

You all have been helpful, but the average cancer might be as old as 10 years before it is detected,    10 years is a long time.  I feel better than ever in my 70 years and yet I got a cancer!?   That is what I am talking about ...  

What are all the things that might affect my body to have cost me to get cancer.  I knew I could get it, but there are at least three things that I did in my time over the last few years, that might have caused the cancer cells to change.  It might also not be the case, but I learned more today about the why ... and about getting it again, and why that..


I just never knew any of all that.. I know you do, you are ahead of me, so don't be mad at me,, and thanks for following here with me. I love all of the responses.. here and before..  ;D
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