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Posted by: Tami, Wednesday, October 9, 2013, 7:59pm
Has anyone tried this type of thing with sweet potatos and turkey broth?

http://www.cooks.com/recipe/f89wj0ru/cream-of-broccoli-soup-crock-pot.html

3 heads broccoli
1 lg onion
5 c turkey broth
1/2t pepper (white or black)
1/4 tsp sea salt
pinch nutmeg
2 cloves crushed garlic
4 finely chopped potatoes

Place all ingredients in crock. Cook on low for 8 hours. Whip, mash or run through food processor to cream soup.
Posted by: ruthiegirl, Wednesday, October 9, 2013, 8:41pm; Reply: 1
Sweet potatoes would give a different flavor to the soup. I would use turnips or rutabaga in place of the potatoes if you're trying to mimic the flavor of the original recipe. I'm also not sure what color you'd end up with after blending green broccoli and orange sweet potatoes.
Posted by: Tami, Wednesday, October 9, 2013, 9:22pm; Reply: 2
Maybe I could do two different soups lol or at least omit the potato part.
Posted by: ruthiegirl, Wednesday, October 9, 2013, 9:32pm; Reply: 3
If you omit the starchy vegetable, you'll still get a tasty soup, but it wouldn't be "creamy." Cauliflower would also work to make a "creamy" soup, if you're not worried about the O eating an avoid. I know cauliflower is good for Bs but I'm not familiar with AB and A food values.
Posted by: ABJoe, Wednesday, October 9, 2013, 11:36pm; Reply: 4
I think I would leave it chunky, rather than creaming it, but I like chunky soups and stews more than creamy ones...  You can always add a bit of rice or other small grain flour to be a thickener, if desired...

There are lots of options...
Posted by: Andrea AWsec, Thursday, October 10, 2013, 11:17am; Reply: 5
You can add beans or rice to make it creamy.
Posted by: Tami, Thursday, October 10, 2013, 1:24pm; Reply: 6
I did it and oh did it smell good all night. I changed the receipe to this

In the crock pot I added a lot of water, 3 heads of broccoli and 1 cauliflour.
To that I added 1/8 cup buttermilk powder, 1/16 cup garlic powder, 1/16 cup onion powder and sea salt.

I let this cook all night and in the morning I removed all the vegetables, and some of the broth. I added to that a few ounces of turkey broth and blended it in my magic bullet. It may have worked better in my Ninja, maybe next time.

I did have a lot of extra liquid at the end, but its the salty powdery stuff. Not sure what I could do with that next time.

And some people at work think Im crazy for having soup for breakfast.

Ruth, I wanted to share with you what I read (In the AB section of eat right for your type) and see what you think. Its page 187.
"For example, you have Type A's low stomach acid, along with Type B's adaptation to meats. So, although you are genetically programmed for the consumption of meats, you lack enough stomach acid to metabolize them efficiently, and the meat you eat tends to get stored as fat. For weight loss, you should restrict your consumption of meats, eating small amounts that you can supplement with vegetables and tofu."

It goes on to talk about Bs insulin production and why to omit lima beans, kidney, corn, buckwheat or seasame. And then it says AB doesnt have the severe wheat reaction, but for weight-loss to avoid.

and the list of foods that encourage weight gain are red meat, kidney beans, lima beans, seeds, corn, buckwheat and wheat.

For weight loss Tofu, seafood, dairy, green vegetables, kelp and pineapple.

Do you still think I could alter my swami for weight loss? Maybe I shall limit poultry to once or twice a week and do that for 3 weeks and see if I still lose a lb a week average.
Posted by: Jane, Thursday, October 10, 2013, 2:09pm; Reply: 7
I think parsnips might be a better substitute for the white potatoes.  I think maybe I'll try something like this over the weekend.  I might add in some actual turkey breast or serve it with ground turkey meatballs.
Jane
Posted by: Tami, Thursday, October 10, 2013, 2:12pm; Reply: 8
I have not tried parsnips before.

All this healthy food is so great (:
Posted by: ruthiegirl, Thursday, October 10, 2013, 2:20pm; Reply: 9
SWAMI is more complex than BTD. Eat Right 4 Your Type talks about "ABs in general" while SWAMI is tailored for you personally. I would trust the portion sizes in SWAMI over the general recommendations in the book.

OTOH, if what you're doing is working, there's no need to change things.
Posted by: Tami, Thursday, October 10, 2013, 2:31pm; Reply: 10
I like OTOH. I always do things for a few weeks to get the full effect. Im also flexible, just trying to rap my mind around it all. I did purchase some turkey meatballs. I have never seen this brand make those like that. Its the good hormone free stuff.
Posted by: ABJoe, Thursday, October 10, 2013, 3:01pm; Reply: 11
Quoted from Tami
I did have a lot of extra liquid at the end, but its the salty powdery stuff. Not sure what I could do with that next time.

You can use this instead of some of the water for the next soup...

Quoted from Tami
And some people at work think Im crazy for having soup for breakfast.
So what???  Do what is healthy for you...
Posted by: Brighid45, Thursday, October 10, 2013, 3:04pm; Reply: 12
If you want a creamy broccoli soup that's really simple, try Gordon Ramsay's version:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KR44a_5v_A

This is so, so good! The secret to a silky-smooth puree is to blend the broccoli while it's still very hot. I love this, it's my favorite 'creamy' soup. I like it with a bit of pecorino and crispy walnuts on top :)
Posted by: Tami, Thursday, October 10, 2013, 3:10pm; Reply: 13
I will check out the video later (after work hours). Thanks for the tips.

Joe, ya, I think they are crazy for not eating healthy and find their negativity annoying, but it is what it is. I would have liked not to be in the breakroom pouring my soup. Maybe next time I will plan 'how' to bring it to work while still hot (poor planning on my part). I need a good very big cup with a lid for hot soup. I used a funnel and a bowl to get it into a cup, not very useful.
Posted by: ABJoe, Thursday, October 10, 2013, 3:29pm; Reply: 14
Quoted from Tami
Maybe next time I will plan 'how' to bring it to work while still hot (poor planning on my part). I need a good very big cup with a lid for hot soup. I used a funnel and a bowl to get it into a cup, not very useful.

Something similar to this works very well for soups...
http://www.amazon.com/Stanley-24oz-Classic-Vacuum-Bottle/dp/B000FZX944
Posted by: ruthiegirl, Thursday, October 10, 2013, 4:53pm; Reply: 15
How about packing soup in a thermos and just eating it straight from the thermos? Nothing to pour at work!
Posted by: ginnyTN, Thursday, October 10, 2013, 5:00pm; Reply: 16
Quoted from Tami
Has anyone tried this type of thing with sweet potatos and turkey broth?


1/2 cup of cooked rice will make it creamy.  I cook large batches of brown rice and put it in small containers in the freezer to get out and use when I need a small amount of rice.  Saves tons of time!

You really need to know that if you are cooking your veggies of any kind - and especially broccoli - that long that there is no nutritional value left.  Vegetables need to be lightly cooked.  Broccoli does well steamed for a few minutes.  Then you can make your soup broth with everything except the broccoli, put the broccoli in and then blend it.  You will have a MUCH more nutritious meal!

P.S.  Parsnips are unbelievably sweet.  To my they have a "perfumey sweet" taste.  The only way I can eat them is combined with turnips to make "home fries".  But to each her own.   8)

Posted by: Tom Martens, Thursday, October 10, 2013, 6:29pm; Reply: 17
How much water do you add?
Posted by: ginnyTN, Friday, October 11, 2013, 12:31am; Reply: 18
Quoted from Tom Martens
How much water do you add?


Tom, who are you asking?  

Posted by: Tami, Friday, October 11, 2013, 6:56pm; Reply: 19
If its me, I ended up making broccoli cauliflower soup with onion powder, garlic powder and buttermilk powder as the base. I used enough water to cover all the veggies, which filled the crock pot. I had 3 heads of broccoli and 1 head of cauliflower (prepared first by soaking for 15 min in 50/50 vinegar water, then getting all the vinegar off - this is how I remove unwanted stuff from food).

Ginny, I bought some parsnips today. So next time instead of cooking it on low all night, I should steam and blend it. Im looking into how to do that in my nuwave. I have a great blender, too.
Posted by: Tom Martens, Friday, October 11, 2013, 9:09pm; Reply: 20
Quoted from ginnyTN


Tom, who are you asking?  


Tami, or anyone else who can help.

If you are going to use the crockpot method, you need to add water so it can "stew"  :)
Posted by: Chloe, Friday, October 11, 2013, 9:58pm; Reply: 21
Quoted from ginnyTN


1/2 cup of cooked rice will make it creamy.  I cook large batches of brown rice and put it in small containers in the freezer to get out and use when I need a small amount of rice.  Saves tons of time!

You really need to know that if you are cooking your veggies of any kind - and especially broccoli - that long that there is no nutritional value left.  Vegetables need to be lightly cooked.  Broccoli does well steamed for a few minutes.  Then you can make your soup broth with everything except the broccoli, put the broccoli in and then blend it.  You will have a MUCH more nutritious meal!

P.S.  Parsnips are unbelievably sweet.  To my they have a "perfumey sweet" taste.  The only way I can eat them is combined with turnips to make "home fries".  But to each her own.   8)



If you're cooking vegetables in liquid and consuming that liquid, you're getting the nutrients from the vegetables that were leeched into the liquid. But,if you're cooking vegetables in water and just eating the vegetables (dumping the water), then you've dumped your nutrients down the drain.
This is why soup is so healthy!  You're consuming the liquid!  :)

http://www.webmd.com/food-recipes/features/how-to-keep-your-veggies-vitamin-packed
Posted by: ginnyTN, Sunday, October 13, 2013, 2:40am; Reply: 22
Quoted from Chloe


If you're cooking vegetables in liquid and consuming that liquid, you're getting the nutrients from the vegetables that were leeched into the liquid. But,if you're cooking vegetables in water and just eating the vegetables (dumping the water), then you've dumped your nutrients down the drain.
This is why soup is so healthy!  You're consuming the liquid!  :)

http://www.webmd.com/food-recipes/features/how-to-keep-your-veggies-vitamin-packed


I use WebMD for some information, but definitely do not depend on it for truth in everything!  WebMD is written mostly by MD's.  MD's have little or no training in nutrition.  You may not like that statement, but it is true.  

Sorry - but you DO lose nutrients when you cook veggies too long.  Yes, SOME nutrients are still available in the broth, but definitely not all.  

http://whfoods.org/genpage.php?tname=faq&dbid=23#vegetables

It is not difficult to make delicious soup without overcooking any of the veggies.  

Spend some more time on http://whfoods.org

Better yet, sign up for George's free emails.  You will learn a LOT and get lots and lots of great recipes sent to your inbox.  

George doesn't write anything about food without listing published research to back up what is on the site.  Also, he has several ND's on his board and advisory panel.    

For "what to eat" I rely totally on Dr. D'Adamo.  For "how to cook it" I rely on George!!!!!   (clap)(clap)(clap)(clap)(clap)
Posted by: Tami, Monday, October 14, 2013, 6:00pm; Reply: 23
I steamed some veggies, added my bone broth and other misc flavors and I brought it to work in a coffee cup so no one will even know lol. Not that mind the negative attention, but I prefer to be left alone generally, when it comes to food. I havent tried it yet though, so I hope it goes well.
Posted by: Chloe, Monday, October 14, 2013, 6:04pm; Reply: 24
I make soup in my Vitamix which doesn't actually cook the vegetables, it just heats them up
while masticating their fiber for about 8-10 minutes.  Nutrient rich results  :)
Posted by: Tami, Monday, October 14, 2013, 6:25pm; Reply: 25
I dont have a vitamix, I use my Nija. I need to tweek the extra spicey stuff I added, its too strong. Also the vegetables I used are really tiny bits but chewy and get stuck in my teeth. I will have to do something to make this work better.
Posted by: ginnyTN, Tuesday, October 15, 2013, 2:45am; Reply: 26
The Vitamix is a fantastic machine.  The only bad thing about it is the price which makes it not affordable for too many good folks out there.   :o

I have found that even my Vitamix doesn't do everything, though.  I have a small food processor that I use for some really thick things (like making peanut butter, grinding dates and nuts for no flour "pie crust", etc.) that are just plain too hard to dig out of the bottom of even the smaller Vm container.  
Posted by: BluesSinger, Thursday, October 17, 2013, 1:50pm; Reply: 27
Quoted from Brighid45
If you want a creamy broccoli soup that's really simple, try Gordon Ramsay's version:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KR44a_5v_A

This is so, so good! The secret to a silky-smooth puree is to blend the broccoli while it's still very hot. I love this, it's my favorite 'creamy' soup. I like it with a bit of pecorino and crispy walnuts on top :)


Thank you!!! HAVE TO TRY THIS!!  :)
Posted by: BluesSinger, Thursday, October 17, 2013, 1:52pm; Reply: 28
Quoted from Tami
Has anyone tried this type of thing with sweet potatos and turkey broth?

http://www.cooks.com/recipe/f89wj0ru/cream-of-broccoli-soup-crock-pot.html

3 heads broccoli
1 lg onion
5 c turkey broth
1/2t pepper (white or black)
1/4 tsp sea salt
pinch nutmeg
2 cloves crushed garlic
4 finely chopped potatoes

Place all ingredients in crock. Cook on low for 8 hours. Whip, mash or run through food processor to cream soup.


Thinking about this one... changing turkey broth to chicken broth and potatoes to rutabagas and leaving out nutmeg....

then blend it ALL when done?
Posted by: Goldie, Thursday, October 17, 2013, 5:51pm; Reply: 29
Not part of this discussion... but when my mom was sick, she would have some soup made from stock and oatmeal, then strain the oats out and drink the liquid..  Fixes many a belly when it is out of sorts..

As for me!! I would not like to eat any food that has been pulverized, It just seems overkill.  I use the Magic Bullet mixer for mixing, but prefere juice and its vitality.  If I had to eat veggies I would cook them.... BUT then I can see where 8 minutes of cooking /warming the veggies might keep them raw enough and still be ok.. I just my self do not like mushy foods.. unless it is Rice pudding.  Some day I will try it and see...
Posted by: BluesSinger, Thursday, October 17, 2013, 6:11pm; Reply: 30
anybody using the broccoli stems in these recipes?
Posted by: ABJoe, Thursday, October 17, 2013, 6:49pm; Reply: 31
Quoted from BluesSinger
anybody using the broccoli stems in these recipes?


I chop the stems and use them just as I would florets in any cooking - and sometimes cut them and eat them fresh as sticks...
Posted by: BluesSinger, Thursday, October 17, 2013, 6:52pm; Reply: 32
Quoted from ABJoe


I chop the stems and use them just as I would florets in any cooking - and sometimes cut them and eat them fresh as sticks...


well since the crock pot was full, I'm saving them for juicing tomorrow moring. :)

Also.. man I am going to look into one of those automatic peelers.. my thumb joints can't take all the peeling of rutabaga's and turnips anymore!  
Posted by: BluesSinger, Friday, October 18, 2013, 2:13am; Reply: 33
Well for me a super super taster.. i may have to throw this entire batch of soup out!  OMG.. I can barely take the smell and when I tasted it I wanted to upheaval!  Darn it....  :X  Wasted all those ingredients and all that time making it.  I should have known.  oh well.. live and learn!

Before I throw it out, I will let hubby taste it.. maybe he will like it.  
Posted by: Tami, Friday, October 18, 2013, 8:01pm; Reply: 34
Goldie, do you not eat veggies?

Blue, sorry you didnt like it. Im a super taster too. I have a tough time getting veggies in.

How much mineral/vitamins are lost if you drink all the broth in a soup, but cook it for several hours in a crock pot boiling on low? That was the better tasting one I've done so far. I didnt use onion, but instead onion powder a little garlic powder and a little butter milk, with turkey broth, 3 stalks of broccoli and 1 head a cauliflower. It worked well enough to eat it all. Im about to do something again.

I also enjoyed a cup of rice, a stalk of broccoli, onion and some stir fry sauce. I steamed the broccoli, then chopped it real fine to add at the end, just long enough to coat it with the sauces.
Posted by: ABJoe, Saturday, October 19, 2013, 12:02am; Reply: 35
Quoted from Tami
How much mineral/vitamins are lost if you drink all the broth in a soup, but cook it for several hours in a crock pot boiling on low?

There are some heat-sensitive vitamins - ones that are destroyed by heat.  I think Vitamin C is one...  You could Google to find out which ones specifically, etc.  

Minerals are not heat-sensitive, as far as I know, so any minerals that leach into the broth will be utilized by drinking the broth.
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