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Posted by: 49315 (Guest), Tuesday, August 27, 2013, 10:58am
Hi I am O type and i know lots of grains, breads, pastry and pasta are no good for me. I am thinking whether there's anyway for me to still enjoy them. Since we 're encouraged to eat sprouted wheat esene bread, what's the theory behind this? Because it's sprouted and the phytic acid and anti-nutrient were eliminated? Or because it's gluten free? And if i bake my pastries with sprouted wheat flour or gluten free flour is it considered good enough for me?

As for daily product, it seemed to be mainly on lactose intolerence but not much in causing weight gain. So if i can tolerate the stomach discomfort and bloating, can i still enjoy the milk and yoghurts?
Posted by: Tom Martens, Tuesday, August 27, 2013, 12:00pm; Reply: 1
Quoted from 49315
Hi I am O type and i know lots of grains, breads, pastry and pasta are no good for me. I am thinking whether there's anyway for me to still enjoy them. Since we 're encouraged to eat sprouted wheat esene bread, what's the theory behind this? Because it's sprouted and the phytic acid and anti-nutrient were eliminated? Or because it's gluten free? And if i bake my pastries with sprouted wheat flour or gluten free flour is it considered good enough for me?

As for daily product, it seemed to be mainly on lactose intolerence but not much in causing weight gain. So if i can tolerate the stomach discomfort and bloating, can i still enjoy the milk and yoghurts?


Hi.  The sprouting destroys the lectin ( protein ) that causes the problems.  Gluten is a whole different story in that it too is a protein but wreaks havoc in other ways.

Your last paragraph made me chuckle... How do you enjoy a food that causes discomfort and bloating?  If that doesn't tell you it's time for a change, I don't know what will.  :)
Posted by: SquarePeg, Tuesday, August 27, 2013, 6:43pm; Reply: 2
Some answers depend on what your goals are.  Are you trying to lose weight?  Do you have health issues?
Posted by: slk7387, Tuesday, August 27, 2013, 7:47pm; Reply: 3
I'm an O and cheese/dairy has never bothered me. I think when I eat cheese it makes me gain weight though....

I don't understand why butter and mozzarella are okay but the rest of the cow products are avoids.
Posted by: ginnyTN, Tuesday, August 27, 2013, 9:35pm; Reply: 4
Quoted from 49315

As for daily product, it seemed to be mainly on lactose intolerence but not much in causing weight gain. So if i can tolerate the stomach discomfort and bloating, can i still enjoy the milk and yoghurts?


There are plenty of milks and yogurts that are NOT dairy.  Try almond milk and almond milk yogurt for a starter.  There are lots more available both in the stores, and even more if you make your own nut milk which is very easy to do.  

As to wanting all those pastries, breads, etc. -- it always makes me sort of laugh because O's in general crave their grains so intensely.  That should be your FIRST clue that grains are bad for you, and most especially any form of wheat.  

Again, there are plenty of substitutes.  There is a flax meal flat bread recipe here:    http://www.dadamo.com/typebase4/recipedepictor7x.cgi?1215   on this web site, along with recipes for amaranth breads, etc.  

I used to crave potatoes big time and - no surprise - found out that they were causing me serious problems that included weight gain, pain and bloating.  I found veggie substitutes that taste every bit as good, and sometimes better.  ;D

I know lot of people who much prefer being fat and sick to disciplining themselves when it comes to what they eat.  The ER program will definitely help you to become healthy and in the process you WILL lose weight but you have to follow it and not look for excuses.  

I've heard a lot of people insist that they want to keep eating the worst AVOIDS for them and all they want is a supplement to undo the damage done when they assault their bodies this way on a regular basis. For those people, there are places that will take lots of your money and sell you pills and potions that will not make one bit of difference in your health.  The ER programs take effort - and Dr. D has developed excellent supplements for specific needs.  But the individual still has to "do the work" - as Lola points out in her signature line.  

Personally, I would like to welcome you to the program with open arms and sincerely hope you will be able to follow it for your blood type.  This is a good place to get support as you progress step by step along your way.  

There are a lot of very knowledgeable people here who have studied all facets and levels of the program  (book2) from the basic ER diet through the most advanced SWAMI programs.  I'm not one of those experts but do try to help when I think I can.  
Posted by: Goldie, Tuesday, August 27, 2013, 10:31pm; Reply: 5
I am never happy when I bend the rules to much... I am very happy to stay compliant.  I cheat 5% but if I can then I rather cheat with extra calories rather than avoids.  they are just not worth it.  The pain the suffering the bloat the itching, the sleep issue and whatever else... Stay true and you will eventually get used to it and eat the jelly on a spoon, and substitute the real with what we put it on... the jelly minus the bread... mmmh  All the best wishes... It will come to pass and you will see the benefits .. and then you can craw about it!!!  ;D
Posted by: Lola, Wednesday, August 28, 2013, 6:30am; Reply: 6
http://northamericanpharmacal.com/living/2013/08/the-beauty-of-70-compliance/
Posted by: yaeli, Wednesday, August 28, 2013, 7:17am; Reply: 7
Quoted from Lola
Made my day.

Such bliss.

Posted by: yaeli, Wednesday, August 28, 2013, 7:31am; Reply: 8
I love brown rice pasta.
Posted by: yaeli, Wednesday, August 28, 2013, 7:46am; Reply: 9
You may enter the TYPEbase Food Values in the Online Support above:
http://www.dadamo.com/typebase4/typeindexer.htm

And read how dairy products affect blood type O:

Cow Milk
http://www.dadamo.com/typebase4/depictor5.pl?493

Goat Milk
http://www.dadamo.com/typebase4/depictor5.pl?495

Yogurt
http://www.dadamo.com/typebase4/depictor5.pl?462
Posted by: ruthiegirl, Wednesday, August 28, 2013, 12:52pm; Reply: 10
It's up to you how compliant you want or need to be. The more careful you are with your diet, the healthier you'll be. The more you "cheat" the less healthy you'll be.

In general, Os fare MUCH  better when we cut back on grains and eat more meats and veggies. You do need to shift the way you eat and learn to look at foods differently. However, grains do not need to be completely eliminated from your diet, and it's fine to make compliant versions of your old favorites.

There are rice pasta and spelt pastas available that are fine for Os. I usually buy rice pasta in Trader Joe's. It's more expensive than regular rice, so I have pasta for a treat now, not a regular menu option.

Sprouted wheat makes for a fairly dense bread, and would probably not work for pastries. However, spelt works great in any recipe calling for wheat flour- just be aware that the dough will be more delicate.

Many commercial gluten-free baked goods (including baking mixes) contain "avoid" ingredients for Os. You need to read labels carefully. Most GF items use corn-based xanthan gum to hold the baked goods together; omitting the gum leads to a more crumbly product. Plain rice flour works fine in cookies and in very moist cakes, but something like a sandwich bread or a pastry is just going to crumble when you try to eat it. Many a loaf of "rice bread" ended up being "bread crumbs" for another recipe. I now bake small rolls only, and I've given up on sliced bread for myself. I do bake spelt bread for the kids and guests, and buy pre-sliced spelt bread loaves for packing sandwiches.

O secretors can have goat cheese, feta, and mozzarella. Goat cheese works as a spread on rice cakes or spelt bread in place of cream cheese, and as a base for cheesecake. Feta is yummy in salads and quiches. Mozzarella is great melted over other foods, and in homemade pizza with a rice flour or spelt flour crust. Or in a "pizza quiche."
Posted by: yaeli, Saturday, August 31, 2013, 8:59am; Reply: 11
Quoted from ruthiegirl
I have pasta for a treat now, not a regular menu option.


I'm adopting this immediately. A small, but great shift in thinking, a brilliant support for losing weight.

Posted by: Averno, Saturday, August 31, 2013, 12:31pm; Reply: 12
Quoted from yaeli


I'm adopting this immediately. A small, but great shift in thinking, a brilliant support for losing weight.



It's a comfort to know that the will is strong. I'm sure I could survive an occasional relapse without becoming more habitual about it. A year ago, this would have been a dangerous act.

Posted by: Amazone I., Monday, September 2, 2013, 8:37am; Reply: 13
(eek)(evil)(whistle)(clown)(shrug) trotzdem welcome Fräulein... ;) ;D
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