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Posted by: walk_the_walk, Friday, August 23, 2013, 7:34pm
I know I've seen a really helpful post on this, but I've done a search and can't quite find the one...

I was confirmed as a Lewis Nonnie this afternoon (yay I I Knew I was a Nonnie). I am currently the only one in my family following GTD/BTD - I know one of my brothers would definitely benefit (Mood/Depression/Blood Sugar etc)

I know Nonnie is recessive, but if I am Nonnie  - does that mean my parents are both Nonnies, and that consequently, both my brothers are also Nonnies? (obviously excluding any paternity issues which are a non starter, and won't cause any issues)

Can't wait to hear from you Lovely Helpers x x
Posted by: Lloyd, Friday, August 23, 2013, 7:39pm; Reply: 1
Either or both parents may be secretors.

Both parents carry at least one copy of the recessive nonnie gene.
Posted by: walk_the_walk, Friday, August 23, 2013, 7:48pm; Reply: 2
Lloyd - thank you for your speedy reply, but I am still not understanding...??? You are an Administrator with 6,808 posts. I am a newbie, just diagnosed Nonnie - from your reply, I just feel more confused...
Posted by: Tom Martens, Friday, August 23, 2013, 7:56pm; Reply: 3
Nonnie(ness) isn't exactly cut an dry like normal recessive genetic traits.

The best part about the Nonnie diet is that anyone can follow it because it usually means cutting out foods rather than adding (sort of (shrug)) :)
Posted by: Lloyd, Friday, August 23, 2013, 8:01pm; Reply: 4
Quoted from walk_the_walk
Lloyd - thank you for your speedy reply, but I am still not understanding...??? You are an Administrator with 6,808 posts. I am a newbie, just diagnosed Nonnie - from your reply, I just feel more confused...


This explains recessive genes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recessive

Posted by: C_Sharp, Friday, August 23, 2013, 10:23pm; Reply: 5
Quoted from walk_the_walk
I know Nonnie is recessive, but if I am Nonnie]  - does that mean my parents are both Nonnies,

No. (Both parents could be nonsecretors, one parent could be a secretor and the other not, and both parents could be secretors)

Look at the Punnett squares in the linked thread to see why this is the case.

http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?b-lr4yt/m-1244429314/#num3


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and that consequently, both my brothers are also Nonnies?


If both of you parents were nonsecretors, your brothers would be nonsecretors.

But you do not know that your parents are nonsecretors, so you do not know the secretor status of you brother without additional testing.



- see link above for explanation
Posted by: yaeli, Saturday, August 24, 2013, 3:25am; Reply: 6
Our cell nucleus carries 2 parallel sets of chromosomes, one set from the father's reproductive cell, and the other set from the mother's reproductive cell (each reproductive cell has only 1 set, thus transformed and prepared for the reproductive process). Each and every one of our endless characteristics is determined by 2 parallel genes working together, each of them situated in a separate parallel chromosome. In its function as a member of a pair, a gene is called an allele. Each of the 2 alleles arrives from one of the 2 independent different sources, but the two of them must work together in order to enable the specific characteristic for which they are mutually responsible to be expressed. When one of the alleles is dominant and the other is recessive, the characteristic expressed will be the dominant. When both parents are built this way - 1 dominant allele and 1 recessive allele for a certain characteristic - in both of them the dominant characteristic - secretor in our case - will be expressed. Their child, on the other hand, may happen to inherit from each parent the recessive allele, and then in him/her the recessive characteristic - nonnie - will be expressed.
Posted by: yaeli, Saturday, August 24, 2013, 3:34am; Reply: 7
Quoted from C_Sharp
Look at the Punnett squares in the linked thread to see why this is the case.

http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?b-lr4yt/m-1244429314/#num3

.....

- see link above for explanation
Thanks (sunny)
Posted by: walk_the_walk, Saturday, August 24, 2013, 6:15am; Reply: 8
C_Sharp - thank you - it was Vicki's Punnet Squares that I had seen but couldn't find...and thanks also to Lloyd, Tom and Yaeli - I do finally understand now! Thanks again :K) ;D ;)
Posted by: RedLilac, Saturday, August 24, 2013, 1:20pm; Reply: 9
I’m a nonnie but my son is a secretor.
Posted by: Goldie, Saturday, August 24, 2013, 3:14pm; Reply: 10
...... Yes yes all that but the best is this:  If you wish to help with diet /food suggestions to help...

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The best part about the Nonnie diet is that anyone can follow it because it usually means cutting out foods rather than adding (sort of )


Yet, for starters even BTD foods without the nonnie status would help for depression... Start with Trehalose complex right away... he will feel it soon enough, on encourraging factor when the world is gray. All the best.

TC is explained elsewhere, and it contains D-Ribose... you might look at that online... good stuff.

  
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