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Posted by: cat2, Thursday, August 22, 2013, 10:32am
Hi, my SWAMI Express has arrived but, I don't have the taste-tester kit yet nor my finger prints...so is it possible to do the SWAMI without those then add them later?
Posted by: yaman, Thursday, August 22, 2013, 10:38am; Reply: 1
Have you also ordered the genotyping kit? It has taste strips in it.

For fingerprints you don't need the kit, you can use a magnifying glass, one with light would be the best.
Posted by: Glenda M H, Thursday, August 22, 2013, 11:26am; Reply: 2
I'm also waiting for the GenoTyping kit. It should be getting sent out in the next day or so. I'm not going to do anything with the SWAMI Xpress until it comes.
Posted by: cat2, Thursday, August 22, 2013, 11:40am; Reply: 3
Quoted from yaman
Have you also ordered the genotyping kit? It has taste strips in it.

For fingerprints you don't need the kit, you can use a magnifying glass, one with light would be the best.


Hi, no I didn't order that because I've done all the measurements myself - apart from those 2 and someone kindly posted a link of where to get the taster in the UK and I was going to get some ink for the fingerprints (I didn't know that I could just use a magnifying glass I could use that if so, I do have one  :)).  

Would you recommend that I order the genotype kit though?

Also, is it possible to add things to the SWAMI later, I thought I read that somewhere?
Posted by: yaman, Thursday, August 22, 2013, 11:53am; Reply: 4
If you can get taster strips and you already have the SWAMI Express, you don't really need the genotyping kit, provided that you know which fingerprint pattern is which:

http://ridgesandfurrows.homestead.com/fingerprint_patterns.html

good luck :)
Posted by: C_Sharp, Thursday, August 22, 2013, 11:55am; Reply: 5
Quoted from cat2
Hi, my SWAMI Express has arrived but, I don't have the taste-tester kit yet nor my finger prints...so is it possible to do the SWAMI without those then add them later?


You can start entering data now and enter the rest when you have it. Taster status is not required but you will not be able to calculate a diet plan until you enter your fingerprint patterns.
Posted by: ruthiegirl, Thursday, August 22, 2013, 10:11pm; Reply: 6
You can always add more data later when you find it out. There are people who's fingerprints are unreadable, and after 6 months on the diet, their fingers heal enough that they can add the fingerprint data.

Some fields are "time locked". They do that to prevent people from using the SWAMI  software for more than one family member. However, any time-locked field can be fairly easily unlocked by calling or emailing customer service. They can do this no matter how long you've had SWAMI.
Posted by: C_Sharp, Friday, August 23, 2013, 1:16am; Reply: 7
Fingerprints are not time locked.

If a finger is missing or otherwise unreadable, composite can be used.
Posted by: cat2, Monday, August 26, 2013, 9:18am; Reply: 8
Thanks for all your replies  :)

I've just ordered the Genotype kit, at least it has everything in there, by the time I'd have bought the stuff for the fingerprints and taste tester it would amount to nearly as much.
Posted by: Enobattar, Monday, August 26, 2013, 12:54pm; Reply: 9
Quoted from cat2
Thanks for all your replies  :)

I've just ordered the Genotype kit, at least it has everything in there, by the time I'd have bought the stuff for the fingerprints and taste tester it would amount to nearly as much.


Good morning, Cat2.  How are you coming with your SWAMI entries?  Have you yet started or are you still waiting on the Geno Kit?  I could not wait if it were me.  :)
Posted by: cat2, Monday, August 26, 2013, 1:12pm; Reply: 10
Quoted from Enobattar


Good morning, Cat2.  How are you coming with your SWAMI entries?  Have you yet started or are you still waiting on the Geno Kit?  I could not wait if it were me.  :)


Hello Enobattar (hugegrin)  well...I've been going over my measurements to make sure they're as correct as I initially measured myself - in front of a mirror  :o then got my hubby to measure me but there were differences, so I've been double-checking those.  Still, I came out as gatherer which I really don't think fits me at all, nothing on the strength meter corresponds (although I've not done the taste and finger print tests yet)  but one of the main things about the weight, I'm not that shape and I've never put weight on easily and some of the gatherer foodstuffs don't seem to fit me either, whereas the BTD diet makes sense .   However, I double-checked which diet on the questionnaire would suit me best and I think the BTD will be best for me anyway, .  Does the SWAMI combine the 2 or is it as I suspect - more individual than that?  I can't wait to get started though  ;D (woot)
Posted by: ABJoe, Monday, August 26, 2013, 3:34pm; Reply: 11
Quoted from cat2
Does the SWAMI combine the 2 or is it as I suspect - more individual than that?  I can't wait to get started though

SWAMI Xpress combines BTD and GTD based on many more parameters than either book diet takes into account - so it is more individualized specifically for you than any other diet...
Posted by: Victoria, Monday, August 26, 2013, 4:41pm; Reply: 12
Quoted from cat2

(hugegrin)  well...I've been going over my measurements to make sure they're as correct as I initially measured myself - in front of a mirror  :o then got my hubby to measure me but there were differences, so I've been double-checking those. )


measuring leg/torso
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5MEDuYdJ2c

measuring fingers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65qdAvuNjsc

I like measuring fingers on the palm side - it is easier for me to get an accurate measurement.  
Posted by: Enobattar, Monday, August 26, 2013, 5:03pm; Reply: 13
Quoted from cat2


Hello Enobattar (hugegrin)  well...I've been going over my measurements to make sure they're as correct as I initially measured myself - in front of a mirror  :o then got my hubby to measure me but there were differences, so I've been double-checking those.  


Cat2, I went through the same ordeal.  Finally I got things straightened out when the GenoType packet came.  I was having the most trouble confirming which was longer, my upper or lower leg.  The kit's instructions were the clearest I'd come across.  Definately work with your SWAMI.  You always have the BTD to fall back on when in doubt.  Sooner or later you'll get it nailed.   8)
Posted by: Victoria, Monday, August 26, 2013, 6:50pm; Reply: 14
It's very common to measure and remeasure . . and remeasure.  :)  
Posted by: cat2, Tuesday, August 27, 2013, 6:56am; Reply: 15
Quoted from ABJoe

SWAMI Xpress combines BTD and GTD based on many more parameters than either book diet takes into account - so it is more individualized specifically for you than any other diet...


Great  :)

Posted by: cat2, Tuesday, August 27, 2013, 9:15am; Reply: 16
Quoted from Victoria


measuring leg/torso
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5MEDuYdJ2c

measuring fingers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65qdAvuNjsc

I like measuring fingers on the palm side - it is easier for me to get an accurate measurement.  


Thank you for the links Victoria, I've just re-measured again  :) still gatherer  ;D

I think flat is easier but they do tend to come out a bit longer doing it that way - but still all in proportion, i.e. they're all a bit longer so it doesn't matter.
Posted by: cat2, Tuesday, August 27, 2013, 9:18am; Reply: 17
Quoted from Enobattar


Cat2, I went through the same ordeal.  Finally I got things straightened out when the GenoType packet came.  I was having the most trouble confirming which was longer, my upper or lower leg.  The kit's instructions were the clearest I'd come across.  Definately work with your SWAMI.  You always have the BTD to fall back on when in doubt.  Sooner or later you'll get it nailed.   8)


Yes! mine are very close and I had trouble locating the exact areas for the top parts of the lower and upper legs, but I keep getting similar results so I think I've got it - near as dammit anyway  :D

Probably a daft question but, if I use the SWAMI on one computer will I be able to access it using a different computer?  the reason I ask is, I'm switching from PC to Apple Mac at the moment and not sure how it works.  So if I were to do the SWAMI on my PC will I be able to access it using the Mac ??)



Posted by: PCUK-Positive, Tuesday, August 27, 2013, 10:25am; Reply: 18
you can use a printer to read finger prints just put your fingerrt on the glass and press the green button and them do your thumbs.
Posted by: C_Sharp, Tuesday, August 27, 2013, 12:39pm; Reply: 19
Quoted from cat2
if I use the SWAMI on one computer will I be able to access it using a different computer?  the reason I ask is, I'm switching from PC to Apple Mac at the moment and not sure how it works.  So if I were to do the SWAMI on my PC will I be able to access it using the Mac ??)


SWAMI is a web based program. No problem using it from other computers.

In my office I have a Ma, a Windows PC, A linux machine and an iPad on my desk.  I have no problems utilizing SWAMI on all of these machines or using it elsewhere.

So you will be able to use it on a PC or Mac.

You do have to have an internet connection for SWAMI to work.


Posted by: cat2, Tuesday, August 27, 2013, 1:54pm; Reply: 20
Quoted from PCUK-Positive
you can use a printer to read finger prints just put your fingerrt on the glass and press the green button and them do your thumbs.


:o ooh I'll try that later, I have a decent printer! because no doubt I'll be re-checking those over and over as well ;D
Posted by: cat2, Tuesday, August 27, 2013, 1:57pm; Reply: 21
Quoted from C_Sharp


SWAMI is a web based program. No problem using it from other computers.

In my office I have a Ma, a Windows PC, A linux machine and an iPad on my desk.  I have no problems utilizing SWAMI on all of these machines or using it elsewhere.

So you will be able to use it on a PC or Mac.

You do have to have an internet connection for SWAMI to work.




Great stuff!! I've been backing everything up on my new Mac this morning to the time capsule and setting it up etc,   However, I will probably make a start later today on my SWAMI using my PC, then if I do decide to get rid of my PC altogether because it's getting a bit shabby now, it's good to know I can access it on my Mac, thanks again  :)

Posted by: cat2, Tuesday, August 27, 2013, 5:24pm; Reply: 22
Quoted from PCUK-Positive
you can use a printer to read finger prints just put your fingerrt on the glass and press the green button and them do your thumbs.


I've just thought - do you mean a scanner?  I don't think there is any glass on my printer, it's  a good printer but you just put your paper in, connect it to your puter etc, and press 'print'.  I think a printer/scanner would work well though.  I do have a scanner somewhere though, probably in a box in the garage.
Posted by: Jenny, Tuesday, August 27, 2013, 9:25pm; Reply: 23
You probably don't need any more info about fingerprints, but anyway in case someone else is in doubt, I found that face makeup of the compressed powder type made it easier to read them visually.
Posted by: cat2, Friday, August 30, 2013, 9:03am; Reply: 24
Well I've made a start on my SWAMI  ;D and my genotyping kit arrived yesterday, so I'm going to go over everything again and do my fingerprints and taste-testing today (hugegrin)

Thanks Jenny, I'll look at that method when I'm double-checking  :)
Posted by: Victoria, Friday, August 30, 2013, 4:54pm; Reply: 25
Quoted from cat2


Thank you for the links Victoria, I've just re-measured again  :) still gatherer  ;D

I think flat is easier but they do tend to come out a bit longer doing it that way - but still all in proportion, i.e. they're all a bit longer so it doesn't matter.


Good - The important thing is being able to see which is longer/shorter.
Posted by: Victoria, Friday, August 30, 2013, 4:55pm; Reply: 26
Quoted from cat2


I've just thought - do you mean a scanner?  I don't think there is any glass on my printer, it's  a good printer but you just put your paper in, connect it to your puter etc, and press 'print'.  I think a printer/scanner would work well though.  I do have a scanner somewhere though, probably in a box in the garage.


This may be referring to the type of printer in Print shops, where you can pay per copy.  They have a glass top.
Posted by: Victoria, Friday, August 30, 2013, 4:56pm; Reply: 27
Quoted from Jenny
You probably don't need any more info about fingerprints, but anyway in case someone else is in doubt, I found that face makeup of the compressed powder type made it easier to read them visually.


That's a good tip, Jenny.  Thanks!
Posted by: cat2, Friday, August 30, 2013, 5:28pm; Reply: 28
Quoted from Victoria


This may be referring to the type of printer in Print shops, where you can pay per copy.  They have a glass top.


Ah, yes! I think you're right Victoria.

Posted by: cat2, Thursday, September 5, 2013, 9:41am; Reply: 29
Ok, so I'm nearly ready to compute my SWAMI but I have a few questions first:

* What is ancestral genetics and where do I find out mine?

* When it asks your genotype, should I put in my pre-determined one - mine is Gatherer according to the measurements, but I really don't feel like that at all, and I only tick one of the boxes in the strength meter for Gatherer.  So should I leave that for SWAMI to compute, or tick Gatherer?

* I'm not sure whether I should print out my SWAMI, do I  'save & print' or 'meal plan/ cookbook' option.  I would like both can I ask for one then the other later?

Thanks.
Posted by: C_Sharp, Thursday, September 5, 2013, 12:34pm; Reply: 30
Quoted from cat2


* I'm not sure whether I should print out my SWAMI, do I  'save & print' or 'meal plan/ cookbook' option.  I would like both can I ask for one then the other later?


Yes.

You can do each of these options as many time as you want.

Each time you run you choose what you want.

Posted by: C_Sharp, Thursday, September 5, 2013, 12:38pm; Reply: 31
Quoted from cat2


* When it asks your genotype, should I put in my pre-determined one - mine is Gatherer according to the measurements, but I really don't feel like that at all, and I only tick one of the boxes in the strength meter for Gatherer.  So should I leave that for SWAMI to compute, or tick Gatherer?


I recommend always having SWAMI compute based on the data you input.  Specifying "Gatherer" will override what the software would calculate.
Posted by: C_Sharp, Thursday, September 5, 2013, 12:43pm; Reply: 32
Quoted from cat2

* What is ancestral genetics and where do I find out mine?



The is the DNA haplogroup.

If female you may want to consider having a male sibling tested so you can determine both haplogroups at once instead of only the maternal haplogroup.

A variety of firms provide genetic testing.

Two seemed to be preferred by users on the forums.

National Genographic:

https://genographic.nationalgeographic.com/

23 & Me

https://www.23andme.com/
Posted by: cat2, Thursday, September 5, 2013, 12:44pm; Reply: 33
Quoted from C_Sharp


Yes.

You can do each of these options as many time as you want.

Each time you run you choose what you want.



Great, thanks so am I correct in thinking that  I can edit some details later (e.g. if they change, or I re-measure differently) and I can ask it to print again to see how my SWAMI has changed accordingly?
Posted by: cat2, Thursday, September 5, 2013, 3:28pm; Reply: 34
Hi  :)

My SWAMI says I am 45% hunter (which really seems to fit me, the foods etc) however what will the other % be? do we get to know or not, and does it matter at all?  
Posted by: cat2, Thursday, September 5, 2013, 3:30pm; Reply: 35
Quoted from C_Sharp


I recommend always having SWAMI compute based on the data you input.  Specifying "Gatherer" will override what the software would calculate.


yep, I tried both ways but the Hunter type does seem to fit me more I think and it does say I have over-ridden SWAMI choice if I select gatherer (which was the book choice according to finger length and torso/leg etc).  

Posted by: ABJoe, Thursday, September 5, 2013, 3:34pm; Reply: 36
Quoted from cat2
My SWAMI says I am 45% hunter (which really seems to fit me, the foods etc) however what will the other % be? do we get to know or not, and does it matter at all?  

The remaining percentage is what did not match your primary genotype on the first pass through the software.  There is no definition of what it is - only what it is not...  It is what makes you you rather than someone else...LOL!
Posted by: cat2, Thursday, September 5, 2013, 3:38pm; Reply: 37
Quoted from ABJoe

The remaining percentage is what did not match your primary genotype on the first pass through the software.  There is no definition of what it is - only what it is not...  It is what makes you you rather than someone else...LOL!


  :) Thank you for your speedy reply ABJoe

Posted by: C_Sharp, Thursday, September 5, 2013, 6:05pm; Reply: 38
Quoted from cat2


Great, thanks so am I correct in thinking that  I can edit some details later (e.g. if they change, or I re-measure differently) and I can ask it to print again to see how my SWAMI has changed accordingly?


This is true for most fields. You will note there a few fields marked as "Time locked"

The time locked fields can be be changed but you to contact tech support for SWAMI to change those fields for you.
Posted by: cat2, Thursday, September 5, 2013, 6:47pm; Reply: 39
Quoted from C_Sharp


This is true for most fields. You will note there a few fields marked as "Time locked"

The time locked fields can be be changed but you to contact tech support for SWAMI to change those fields for you.


Yes I noticed it said that by the side of a few things including lactose intolerant. I wasn't sure whether to tick that box or not as I'm not certain, but I found I was much better using lactofree cheese and milk in the past, so guess I must be.   Thanks again.
Posted by: C_Sharp, Thursday, September 5, 2013, 7:56pm; Reply: 40
You will find that clicking lactose intolerant does not eliminate all dairy from the diet, but the foods are adjusted.
Posted by: cat2, Thursday, September 5, 2013, 8:54pm; Reply: 41
Yes! I was pleasantly surprised some cheeses are diamonds, I do like cheese so look forward to eating more of those  :)
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