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Posted by: Goldie, Saturday, July 27, 2013, 4:32pm
I am taking the plunge.. I am buying Trehalose by the pound and use it as in the olden days as a sugar to sweeten my life again..

Why pine over lost fruit, srinks that tase sweet. heck I might even like Green tea if it had sugar flavor in it.  I am plunging deep, two pounds at least, or evem 4 for others in the family.   I mean even without the wonderful effects of the D-Ribose.. plain Trehalose has so many promises...  I am a beliver that if I could have 'sweet' tasting things in my life again, after 40 years of avoiding such, I might have a life in my old age tiime..

NOW: the question... where to buy it? for best Quality.. would Dr D be able to know about certain purities or places where to start looking for Trehalose by the pound!.. ?????? ;D

I mean cinnamon and Trehalose on ezekiel bread.. with butter or ghee... Yummmm

Posted by: Lola, Saturday, July 27, 2013, 4:33pm; Reply: 1
buy DPN s best

also too much of a good thing isn t necessarily good
Posted by: C_Sharp, Saturday, July 27, 2013, 7:01pm; Reply: 2
Some people on the forums are buying it from Swanson (I do not like Swanson's):

http://www.swansonvitamins.com/swanson-ultra-pure-trehalose-1-lb-454-grams-pwdr

I have posted about Endowment for Medical Research's products and research from time to time, but I do not actually buy from them.

http://www.endowmentmed.org/content/view/1278/1/




For me the trehalose complex powder worked better than the alternatives that I tried.
Posted by: Chloe, Saturday, July 27, 2013, 7:59pm; Reply: 3
I have Swanson's 100% pure plain trehalose.  Works well for baking or adding to any food.  Although
DPN TC is an awesome health enhancing product, if you're thinking of using trehalose instead of sugar, I think you'll be happy with this Swanson's product.
Posted by: Goldie, Monday, July 29, 2013, 2:48pm; Reply: 4
Does anyone see which Trehalose is used by Dr D .. the mushroom kind or other type?  I would not want it to be from corn..
Posted by: Jane, Monday, July 29, 2013, 2:59pm; Reply: 5
Goldie,
Be careful about using too much - I believe I remember that you've said something about being borderline diabetic and some people have commented that it raises their blood sugar. Maybe you should discuss it with Dr. D or someone at DPN.
Jane
Posted by: Spring, Monday, July 29, 2013, 6:43pm; Reply: 6
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2.3 Observations in humans

2.3.1 Studies of tolerance in healthy volunteers

In a study of potential adverse effects, 60 healthy volunteers were given 50 g of trehalose in 400 ml of water after an overnight fast. No abdominal symptoms of diarrhoea were reported (Bolte et al., 1973).

In a study in which 10 volunteers were given a single dose of 25 g of trehalose in 200 ml of water 1 h after breakfast, there was no reported diarrhoea or other abdominal symptoms (Heine et al., 1996).

In an investigation of the laxative dose of trehalose, 20 female students were given a single daily dose of trehalose in 200 ml of solution 2–3 h after a meal. The dose of trehalose was increased gradually from 10 to 20, 30, 40, 50, and 60 g per treatment. The indigestible disaccharide lactulose was used as a positive control. The physical condition and gastrointestinal symptoms of all subjects were recorded before and after treatment. Half of the subjects had no gastrointestinal symptoms, even at the highest dose tested (60 g), whereas lactulose caused diarrhoea in 75% of subjects after ingestion of 40 g. Both trehalose and lactulose caused high prevalences of abdominal symptoms including flatulence, distension, and borborygmus, but the effects of lactulose were significantly more severe than those of trehalose at the same dose. While there was significant variation between individuals, the threshold dose for transitory laxation was estimated to be 0.65 g/kg bw for trehalose and 0.26 g/kg bw for lactulose (Oku & Okazaki, 1998).

In a study of the absorption of trehalose, 30 healthy adults (15 of each sex) were given trehalose at a single oral dose of 10, 20, 30, or 40 g. The concentrations of hydrogen gas in expired air and of glucose in blood were measured before and every 30 min after administration for 3 h. Subjects were considered to be suffering from malabsorption if the hydrogen gas concentration in expired air increased by more than 20 ppm from the standard value. The subjects were also examined for gastrointestinal symptoms (malabsorption, abdominalgia, laxation, abdominal dysphoria, and crepetus). The rates of malabsorption of trehalose were 0%, 40%, 43%, and 75% at 10, 20, 30, and 40 g, respectively, while the rates of gastrointestinal symptoms were 0%, 40%, 43%, and 50%. Malabsorption was found in more than half of the subjects given 40 g of trehalose. While no racial differences in the ability to absorb trehalose were seen between Mongoloid (Japanese), white, and black individuals, the Japanese had a significantly higher incidence of gastrointestinal symptoms (Ushijima et al., 1995).

2.3.2 Studies of trehalase-deficient individuals....

I hadn't read anything about this before, but it is interesting to know that some people can be deficient in trehalase which cause a problem in digesting trehalose. This issue is addressed under the above section here:
http://www.inchem.org/documents/jecfa/jecmono/v46je05.htm
Posted by: Goldie, Monday, July 29, 2013, 7:58pm; Reply: 7
I understand the greatness of Trehalose, to be that, diabetics have no spike in insulin sugar reaction... understanding that it is a sugar but not a sugar with three legs but two - therefore the body does not recognize it as a sugar..  

This freedom to have a sweet tasting thing is my wish to replace other needs for sweets.  Instead of a sweet drink or some other drink (avoid coffee) then Lime and teahouse as lemonade might be a great alternative...

for ice-cream needs, if it is wanting something 'cold' then the drink above can be chilled with ice  and be quite effective in replacing a mental 'dependency... at least that is where I am

For much info look for the thread with over a thousand answers...   This thread should not be the start of a new long thread for TC - but for the plain form.

I think egg omelets with plain [T sprinkled on it might be replacing my grandmothers recipe without sugar fears.  
Spreading it on grapefruit or rice pudding ahh... loads of fun

Another place it might work is in making some meat more tender if sprinkled on it during steaming with veggies, or even make it taste real sweet as in some Chinese foods which generally are loaded with sugar.

It's worth looking to add sweetness back into my (diabetic deprived) sugarfree life.
Posted by: Chloe, Monday, July 29, 2013, 8:11pm; Reply: 8
I honestly don't think that any concentrated sweetener no matter what the source should be consumed in large quantities.

I doubt I'd ever think to buy pounds of any type of sugar without asking myself why I was craving
so much sweetness in my diet in the first place. Is something out of balance?

My diet contains very little sweetness, except for fruits. And I have no desire for more sweetness than this.

Reasons for craving sweets
http://shine.yahoo.com/healthy-living/3-surprising-reasons-you-crave-sugar-that-have-nothing-to-do-with-food-1266023.html
Posted by: SquarePeg, Monday, July 29, 2013, 9:06pm; Reply: 9
I'm shaking my head at this.  I know that when I start to crave sugar (or sweet things) my body is telling me to get more sleep.  The article that Chloe linked to validates this.

I can get to the point where I'm eating white table sugar out of the canister.  I'll rationalize it by telling myself I need to remove the big clumps.  I don't tell myself that I can also remove the big clumps by breaking them up with the spoon.

Goldie, have you ever had a sleep study done?  Could you have sleep apnea or other disorder that prevents you from falling into a deep, restorative sleep?  Your post is extremely disturbing.  How would you react to a close friend that wanted to buy 500 pounds of butter for herself all in one shot?
Posted by: Spring, Monday, July 29, 2013, 9:15pm; Reply: 10
I don't think I have ever known a diabetic in my life who didn't crave sugar to some degree. Some a lot more than others to the point that they refused to give it up. My grandfather was one of them. He loved lemonade. There was a drugstore in town that served fresh lemonade made to order, and the woman making it knew exactly how he liked it - very sweet! Of course, she had no idea that he was diabetic. Every time he went in there he had a small glass of that lemonade! He died in his early seventies with a heart attack. But I don't think it was from the lemonade, necessarily, because my grandmother made delicious fruit cobblers with plenty of butter and sugar - how could anyone who craved sugar resist one of those right under their nose?  ::) My grandfather only became diabetic in his late sixties, so she wasn't used to cooking for someone who needed to avoid sugar. She ate the same way he did and lived to be ninety-five..... Healthy as could be too. There is no way to figure some of this stuff out. But there were no preservatives, no insecticides, no GMO, etc., but lots of fresh vegetables, fruits and home grown poultry, beef, etc..

Chloe, I don't think Goldie means to eat a pound of Trehalose in a day!
Posted by: SquarePeg, Monday, July 29, 2013, 10:07pm; Reply: 11
Come to think of it, sugar is sold in bags that weigh 4 pounds....  That's pretty crazy, too.
Posted by: Spring, Monday, July 29, 2013, 11:38pm; Reply: 12
Quoted from SquarePeg
I'm shaking my head at this.  I know that when I start to crave sugar (or sweet things) my body is telling me to get more sleep.  The article that Chloe linked to validates this.

It applies to ANY carbs for many people. But some diabetics crave sugar no matter what. My grandfather certainly got plenty of sleep.
Posted by: Chloe, Tuesday, July 30, 2013, 12:25am; Reply: 13
Quoted from Spring


Chloe, I don't think Goldie means to eat a pound of Trehalose in a day!


LOL, I'm quite sure you're correct, however, let me just say this. I wonder if anyone else has
experienced this.  Prior to feeling balanced from following my SWAMI, I used to have deep cravings
for things like chocolate covered coffee beans, a particular brand of gluten free pretzels, a particular baked potato chip...and when I saw that my "stash" of any of these items was getting
rather low, I'd immediately have to stock up with large amounts of back up because there was
this physical and/or mental craving I found almost to be comforting and it was comfort
combined with a fear that there could be a snowstorm and WHAT?  I'd be without my
chocolate covered coffee bean fix...

So....when my SWAMI  was printed out and I realized that my once chocolate covered coffee beans were now half beneficial and half toxic, I had to go cold turkey.  OK, nobody who is in love with a chocolate covered coffee bean is going to be satisfied with just the
crunchy bean. Chocolate was now a toxin.... Weeks of slowly withdrawing....one food at a time until suddenly, I realized I had forgotten completely about these foods.  My body and mind no
longer needed chocolate or my beloved gluten free pretzels laden with corn.

And SquarePeg points out a true issue I had prior to my immune system settling itself down.  I
had sleep problems.  I was waking up after sleeping a few hours and was wide awake.  With the
addition of melatonin, compliance with SWAMI and now sleeping 8 normal hours without waking up, I felt more balanced.

To me, something is out of balance and the body needs to find its equilbrium if there is a strong urge to keep thinking about a particular food or food group.  I feel this way about dairy....if I eat it, I need to start stock piling cheese. My husband has called me a cheese hoarder before...but, If I don't eat it, cheese is off my radar screen.  And I can see cheese, talk about cheese, but cheese
virtually means nothing to me.

I really think the point is to question what we need to find balance so cravings are calmed down.  Where is the tipping point? What could be improved upon in the diet, with exercise, with making sure one gets enough fluids.

Many times when we're thirsty we think we're hungry.  I know many diabetics and yes, they seem
to want sugar....but I've also read that the artificial sugars that don't raise blood sugar somehow
cause the same sugar cravings as those who eat sugar and exhibit the highs and lows of blood
sugar fluctuations.  My daughter in law puts Splenda in everything. You'd think that would quench
her desire for sweets. It doesn't.  She always wants sweets.  She isn't diabetic but her dad is type
2..... So wondering about the fact that maybe more than a small
dose of Trehalose every day could cause the same sugar cravings as real sugar or artificial sweeteners.

Just something to think about.
Posted by: Goldie, Tuesday, July 30, 2013, 1:37am; Reply: 14
I own sugar only for guest and use less than a pound in a year or two...

I do not cook any foods that are sweetened... No fruit only here and there some pineapple chunks.

I am not craving sugar... more so taste from different foods... Like scoop of icecream, like bananas when at my sis.., like chocolate, or more like nuts in chocolates...

I have a very hard time drinking... water... making lime aide sweeter will help to drink water... a good thing.  

As for rice things, or foods that might be gooey, so seldom I don't even remember, but having that personal freedom to have it, might be very relaxing.

Sleep is on issue I have to go to the bathroom at least every 90 min or at the very seldom most of 3 hours... sleep is interrupted ... yes I am tired, but more because of the loss of the nephew, my brother a month ago, and life just the way it presents itself to me.  I am in pain from my shoulder I damaged doing volunteer work and my foot from falling off a ladder three times and always on to the same foot.  The headaches I get for 6 hours sometimes every day or in the middle of the night are no fun.  I could be suffering from fibromyalgia, or worse, spastic legs, but I keep that under control... my shoulders are getting re-damaged every night since I like to fall asleep in my side even with 5 pillows everywhere.... so = a vicious cycle..

So a spoon full of sweetness might be a reward I can get... at 25 dollars a pound I think I will not outlive it all.  I expect to live a long time, but being dead earlier would be just fine, there is not much to be gained or offer with old age,,, speaking knowing that I will live to 96... Ha-ha...

Then again I did say I might share my two pounds with others, so no worry... but for you who crave suagr... I feel for you... with me its more reminescing for flavors of my youth... I could quicker crave a salami sandwich on rye...  


I just cleaned out all my drawers, all my projects of old and all my things I could not list to give to a person with a name.. I feel this is important at my age.. I will not finish these things or projects or social projects, time to chuck them all.. time for changes..    
Posted by: Spring, Tuesday, July 30, 2013, 4:20am; Reply: 15
Goldie, since you mentioned having sugar for guests, I happened to think that I don't even know where my sugar is, for goodness sake, except what is in a small sugar bowl! I hardly know anyone who uses sugar anymore! I have not bought any sugar in years. I never, ever cook with it.

I think you did yourself and someone else an awesome favor cleaning out your drawers and giving your things away! What a relief to get that behind you! I have a friend who thinks that one of the best things she can think of in a house is an empty drawer!! That is definitely some prized real estate! There was a time when she had a six thousand square foot house with not a single inch in it available for use! When they downsized, she found tons of stuff she didn't even know she owned! Like twenty sets of sheets still in packages, for instance! The work involved in getting rid of all that stuff was mind blowing.

The only thing I can think of right now that I keep on hand, just in case of this or that, is a bit of a Unibar in my purse in case I have a drop in blood sugar when I am out and haven't eaten at my regular time. I do not like that feeling AT ALL, especially when I am in the middle of a big store. I remember some time ago checking out at a grocery store and had an episode. I told the clerk that I was having a problem just in case I literally passed out, and she immediately told me that she had something I could have that she kept with her all the time for the same reason. I didn't want to take hers in case she needed it herself, and I made it to my car all right. But I did have a Unibar there that I could eat. From then on, I have kept something in my purse.
Posted by: Goldie, Tuesday, July 30, 2013, 1:56pm; Reply: 16
Yes food for hypoglycemic is of utmost importance... the feeling of loosing control is mierable... keeping food in the car is not such a good idea, better in the purse...

I think the feeling of overwhelming... gittery or some other thing, like totally dropping all self control is a big problem... you might try taking a spoon of extra light oil twice or trice a day.,. It seems to do wonders for my brain and my intestines... I am so happy I read the Shangry-la diet book on line.  It settled so much about hunger, and need for oil.

I am pleased to have had the use of a U-Haul yesterday, someone who was moving his apartment needed it, I made use of it by moving all my old files and about 300 VCR tapes.  I miss them they had such good stuff on them... but by the time I would be without a TV they will have all things on computer... all I need is google it...

Then also I did loads of community projects, well I am not going there again... age allows me to become lazyier... Out went the files... and when I saw how the trash is handled at the transfere station, then all my worries about privacy went by the way side... Garbage is quite on operation.  By the time I had enough space in the truck we also picked up accumulated building trash from one of my nephews and together we had over a ton of stuff... 90.- was just right.. For trash never to be fretted over ever again... what a load of things of the past.  My Niece thought that was the biggest Xmas present... hahaha... perfect!

I had a house fire a long time ago, I never replaced all things per se- only bought pretty things... as for sheets, well two sets is enough for any one.. A third is pure luxury.  I love the old wash and wear sheets from the good old days... I use them rather than the new kind that need ironing... ridiqulous!

I have lovely embroidered table clothes and crochet bedspreads and table clothes none fit my life any more, I wish I had others to share them with... someone who would really like them and care for them... so much work goes into them..

I used to like to make coffee time, and sugar in a bowl, but no more, my sugar would all clump together I use it so seldom.. The boys use it more than the girls... they like it sweet. Ha-ha.

I am really exited at making a half gallon juice bottle full of lime and water and two spoons of TC and shake... it makes for a good days worth of fluid.. and looks manageable, like buying grapefruit juice in a bottle... but much healthier... I even use fresh limes now!!

  
Posted by: Spring, Tuesday, July 30, 2013, 6:00pm; Reply: 17
Oh, tablecloths.... I used to LOVE them. I have a few drawers full of them, but there is only one that I use now and then. Life does change, doesn't it?! I think I like this change very, very well, though!  ;D  

Your drink sounds delicious, just wish I could deal with the citrus. Maybe some day.... :-/
Posted by: Goldie, Tuesday, July 30, 2013, 8:08pm; Reply: 18
Oh I use very little... half a linme/// could be grapefruit also... or just carrot juice??
I am not spoiled any more... I am a reductionist... nearly nothing anymore to please my palet...  diabetes took all fun out of life/eating and dringking...

3 oz  (100gr) meat and veggies makes for a BIG rush....  onions on some day's...mmmh  learned to love them browned. Sometimes with grated parmesan cheese...WOW - Jeppidy do that...!

I should stop eating eggs for breakfast... at least cut down to one egg... but it’s a habit...  ::)

And when I cheat as I have been, then .5 pd a day more in weight...  :'(

And now lime in water and a spoon of TC... what a treat...

The Oil is what keeps me on even keel... menatlly as well as in my belly... all the difference in the world... but I am O.. ...

Spring I love your posts they are always fresh...  :K)
Posted by: Chloe, Wednesday, July 31, 2013, 1:11am; Reply: 19
The power of suggestion.  When mentioning limes in your past few posts, it didn't register as something
I'd want to use, Goldie, but as soon as I walked into the health food store this evening, first thing I looked for was limes.  Bought a small bag.... The thought of lime-ade sounded so appealing when you described it slightly sweetened.  I might use honey or agave but limes are as beneficial for me as lemons....Just had limes on my mind after reading this thread and decided "limes are exactly what I want".

Wonder what the nutritional difference is between lemons and limes?

Decided to find out.
http://www.diffen.com/difference/Lemon_vs_Lime

Wanted to add something and share my experience today with lime juice, water and trehalose.

Added 1/2 squeezed lime into a 24 oz container of water plus 1 heaping teaspoon of trehalose.
Result?  Tastes like sour lime water with absolutely no sweet flavor.

What did I learn? It's going to take a whole lot of trehalose to sweeten something as sour as a lemon or lime.
Plus why can't I taste any sensation of sweetness?

Wondering just how much trehalose it's going to take to make this drink taste like really good limeade?
Posted by: Spring, Wednesday, July 31, 2013, 5:34pm; Reply: 20
Chloe, it has always been a mystery to me that some people don't think Trehalose is sweet! Maybe it has something to do with it being plain Trehalose which I have not tried yet???
Posted by: Jane, Wednesday, July 31, 2013, 5:41pm; Reply: 21
I just put my trehalose complex into grapefruit juice.  I believe Dr. D said that's what he does in his blog about TC when DPN first started selling it.  

I do buy the WFs 365 brand mineral water with lime.  It comes either in the big bottles or in a six pack.  Although it's packaged in plastic bottles which I know I should be avoiding it's convenient for me and as a result I drink it.  Take one for golf or sometimes to work, have some when I get home from work.  I like it room temperature.  It's a very good O thing - good for naturally acidic systems.
Posted by: Chloe, Wednesday, July 31, 2013, 5:48pm; Reply: 22
Quoted from Spring
Chloe, it has always been a mystery to me that some people don't think Trehalose is sweet! Maybe it has something to do with it being plain Trehalose which I have not tried yet???


I'm sitting here right now with the remains of my lime/trehalose water and it tastes exactly as if all
I added was lime juice to the water.  Yet, I've tried eating trehalose off a spoon and it's very mildly
sweet but certainly nowhere close to being a satisfying sweet flavor.  I can't even imagine how much
it would take to sweeten something in a baked recipe. Yet, when I cook down dates to make a thick
puree which subs for sugar in muffins, the result to me is sweet. And a few squirts of agave syrup
in my muffin in a mug imparts sweetness... So it's not like I can't taste sweetness.  I find trehalose rather bland.  And the TC was almost tasteless to me.  Do you find it tastes sweet?
Posted by: Goldie, Wednesday, July 31, 2013, 8:15pm; Reply: 23
Cloe... Good limonaid  ... who said that... Just allowed is good enough ... for me that is.. sweet well that is a matter of how much one stayed away from sugar per se..

One teaspoon or even a table spoon TC will not make it sweet, just sweeter haha that is why I wish to buy plain T so as not take to much TC.. 1 teaspoon per 6 oz might be just right.. or at least explain why you did not taste it...  I think I could tast one grain of sugar in a glass... so would my body sugar insulin reaction.. that is why TC was such a good thing.. and T should be guilt free sweet...     still need to buy it, and wish to get mushroom kind.. !

Cloe... the pictures unter your link are yummmyyyyyy ! The comparison chart does not seem to account for why I do not care for lemons...

Lime in water.. I love it with the skin left in the water.. makes it even more bitter Yumm.
Posted by: Chloe, Wednesday, July 31, 2013, 8:39pm; Reply: 24
Quoted from Goldie
Cloe... Good limonaid  ... who said that... Just allowed is good enough ... for me that is.. sweet well that is a matter of how much one stayed away from sugar per se..

One teaspoon or even a table spoon TC will not make it sweet, just sweeter haha that is why I wish to buy plain T so as not take to much TC.. 1 teaspoon per 6 oz might be just right.. or at least explain why you did not taste it...  I think I could tast one grain of sugar in a glass... so would my body sugar insulin reaction.. that is why TC was such a good thing.. and T should be guilt free sweet...     still need to buy it, and wish to get mushroom kind.. !

Cloe... the pictures unter your link are yummmyyyyyy ! The comparison chart does not seem to account for why I do not care for lemons...

Lime in water.. I love it with the skin left in the water.. makes it even more bitter Yumm.


You're right....24 oz of water plus 1/2 a lime was too much water for me to remotely taste 1 heaping tsp of trehalose

Have you read this?
http://forum.endowmentmed.org/index.php?topic=4.0
Posted by: Spring, Wednesday, July 31, 2013, 9:25pm; Reply: 25
http://forum.endowmentmed.org/index.php?topic=4.0

LOL Sounds as if you need this more than Goldie, Chloe!! And, yes, TC does taste sweet to me, as I have said about a zillion times. I almost cringe when I take mine the same way I would if I were dumb enough to put a teaspoon of regular sugar in my mouth! -- The horror!! But I am a super taster!
Posted by: Spring, Wednesday, July 31, 2013, 9:34pm; Reply: 26
Quoted from Goldie
Oh I use very little... half a lime/// could be grapefruit also... or just carrot juice??
I am not spoiled any more... I am a reductionist... nearly nothing anymore to please my palate...  diabetes took all fun out of life/eating and drinking...

I really feel for you, Goldie, having to deal with this multifaceted problem. Does exercise help you keep your sugar down? Are you allowed agave on SWAMI? Or barley malt or maple syrup or vegetable glycerine? You've probably said, but I can't remember off hand. I'm curious to know how Dr. D. addresses diabetes.
Posted by: Chloe, Wednesday, July 31, 2013, 11:37pm; Reply: 27
Quoted from Spring

I really feel for you, Goldie, having to deal with this multifaceted problem. Does exercise help you keep your sugar down? Are you allowed agave on SWAMI? Or barley malt or maple syrup or vegetable glycerine? You've probably said, but I can't remember off hand. I'm curious to know how Dr. D. addresses diabetes.


There's always the diabetes book, but doesn't that go along with the BTD?  Wondering if a professional SWAMI wouldn't give Goldie the best chance of having a highly personalized diet that
focuses specifically on diabetes.  Goldie, you really should make a trip to see Dr D at the clinic
with the shift.  Don't know where you live, but it's really worth it to get all your questions answered and have a support team to touch base with after you go home.  It's really just a 2 hour investment
once you get there.
Posted by: Goldie, Thursday, August 1, 2013, 12:21am; Reply: 28
Cloe... I was told that the prof Swami only differs in that it allows more than one person to be evaluated, creating a discount for more than 6 people...

The problem with Swami and or the food list in general... the word has one meaning the overall effect another.

In my case giving up 'sugar' is not the issue as much as sugary foods... and even they are not a problem... just a question of will power, suseptablilty to foulty thinking, and collapsing in front of sweet foods.  Not always just some time, but I do believe it is those some times that are the problem causing issues.  

All the books do not deal with the issues like diabetes, ok so there is a book for it, but it I just much smaller and less cumbersome.. The diet varies a little but once one is on Beneficial’s then the differences are small.  Blueberries or turkey being such differences.   I do not think I gained much from adhering to it for a year... The book title might more than anything else make ME accept the new norm, the me of today...  Acceptance is a big thing, it helps to stay on target, it affords choices that might be difficult other wise, like No white sugar... a fruit instead, or pineapple in place of peaches.

Now knowing that I adhered to the BTD diet even before I knew of it, and that it is near ancient by now, tells me that a visit to Dr D would be great as there might be great new visions floating there... way bjond BTD... but alas, I spend my money on prolo therapy... because I feel relatively good / or great when I compare it to the time of Pneumonia, Fibro and Chronic fatigue... today (20 years later) I am more lazy then fatigued.. !! Think of that!!!  And even at that, I am more energetic than a 50 year old...

The best of my life is that I am willing to live my life, that I still study in my own way, as if I was living to be 96... That after 63 years of being in pain every day! I have none for 7 years since I discovered two or three things that made that possible for me...! Do I have a right to ask for more??  .........   and all this time I can share my life to make others 'feel' better, to share what I learn and most of all try to remember what I knew... that is where aging is a scary proposition. Yet with some TC and some water and lime... ah life is just peachy! - With you (collectively) in it -!    ;)    
Posted by: Chloe, Thursday, August 1, 2013, 12:53am; Reply: 29
Professional SWAMI allows the user to have many more options of input.  Perhaps if it is purchased for use by anyone who buys it for their own practice, then 6 people could be having individual SWAMIs done for that one price....but I'm not talking about the price at all....just letting you know that SWAMIx is a different computer program....asks different questions....SWAMI pro is far more comprehensive and is designed for professionals who are treating patients with specific conditions.

Let's say you were to be the user, you'd be able to filter questions differently... providing you had knowledge of this particular computer software,you'd input specific things.......but if you go to the clinic and Dr. D and his shift students ask you the bazillion questions that they ask you on your first visit, when the time comes for the SWAMIx to be personalized, many choices exist for the user to add additional information to the intake form so the results are far more personalized than what you get with SWAMIx.  

I haven't seen SWAMI pro in action....meaning I wasn't standing with Dr. D and his students when my SWAMI was prepared....but I can certainly tell from the highly specific diet I was given for a very specific condition that my diet is was tailor made to do be able to shift my immune system in a very specific direction....for a specific amount of time and then when it accomplished what it was designed to accomplish, it was shifted back in a different direction to achieve a different goal.

I can't possibly explain to you how highly personalized this is. I still think you'd give yourself the
biggest and best gift in the world to go see Dr. D and the shift. With your particular health profile of your
ancestors and your predisposition for metabolic syndrome, you'd be doing yourself a huge favor to be able to
get the best diet you possibly can to insure you won't succumb to the worst possible genetics of your ancestors.

And seeing the shift is far less inexpensive than anyone might imagine.  Really very cost effective for how much
you learn from the genius of all geniuses....Dr. D himself.  Don't you deserve this?
Posted by: DoS, Friday, August 2, 2013, 12:41am; Reply: 30
You can't be deficient in Trehalose. It isn't naturally part of the human diet. It occurs in a few things we consume (well some of use consume, like frogs). We lack the digestive enzyme (trehalase) to digestion it.

That's good though, because Trehalose has very good affects on the body. Gastrointestinal affects that are not malabsorption ones are positive, not negative. If we could digest it, it would contribute to blood sugar and calories. As is, it can only influence the bodies function (which could change blood sugar, but it doesn't contribute directly).

I believe it is basically something that like we have enough trehalase in our bodies at any given time to digest a couple handfuls of calories (sugar) at best (maybe not even as high as 100 calories?). The rest does the amazing work that improves health!
Posted by: Goldie, Saturday, August 3, 2013, 12:10am; Reply: 31
Cloe... thanks for the long answer... I was told by the office that it only differed in the way I said... to use it for so and so many people/ depending on the unit I buy...  I was considering that as I work with a healing modality, and have encouraged many to get their own.  I guess I have to call the office and ask again.

At the same time I am somewhat discouraged, I have thought that I got all that I could in terms of books and software to get optimum information.  I had taken a young person to the office long ago, and saw nothing of the big differences you are speaking of.  I can well imagine that the shift or a private visit might have changed since then, but at the time I was there, I was not told that I would not see Dr D.  I was surprised to be sent to someone else in the same office.  

Today I am thankfully not in as much need as decades ago; I healed a lot in my body.  I do not wish to live forever; I expect to get a heart attack and die, hopefully easy... I hope it will not be death by stroke, but either way, I am not expecting to die peacefully in my sleep, I am toooo healthy. Ha-ha, it will have to be by accident.  Until that happens, I will continue to read and learn, I will study and observe ME and make the most of what comes my way.  Sometimes a teacher appears, when the student is ready.  I am not ready to abdicate my own knowing/learning/evaluating to any one.  

Dr D. has saved my wellness, he has done as much as is possible.  I am grateful to all ends.  I am happy to leave my time to others who are desperately ill and need the available time he and his staff can put aside.  

Also, I think I can not afford the cost, nor the cost of sups, which I seem to keep in the freezer instead of ingesting them.  I have bought and tried many a sup and felt nothing.  By comparison I felt Trehalose Complex within hours of taking it... and did so several weeks before anyone talked about it here.  I had bought it in Jan. and we started to know about it in April-May over a year ago.  I have never stopped taking it.  

So you see, I am going to look into the Swami Pro, and maybe spend the 800 or 1200 it mightl cost, because within its pages may be way more information to lead me on my way.  

Thanks Cloe, for letting me know of the difference   And I will consider what you said.
Posted by: C_Sharp, Saturday, August 3, 2013, 3:25am; Reply: 32
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I was surprised to be sent to someone else in the same office.
  Today you might be seen by Dr. Natalie Colicci, Dr Vanessa Doyle, Dr. Maria Zangara, Dr. D'Adamo, or students (if a Shift patient).
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So you see, I am going to look into the Swami Pro, and maybe spend the 800 or 1200 it mightl cost, because within its pages may be way more information to lead me on my way.



The license price for SWAMI GenoType (You called it Pro) is roughly the same per person as SWAMI Xpress, but a practitioner buys 10 or 30 licenses at a time.

Practitioners outside of Bridgeport typically charge $300 to $400 for SWAMI. The extra money is mostly the price of an office visit. The price is probably slightly more from the private practice physicians at Center for Excellence.

To check current price for a visit with SWAMI at Center of Excellence contact Barbara Shola at 203 366-0526

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The output text in a SWAMI diet report is nearly the same whether it is generated with SWAMI GenoType or SWAMI Xpress. The report will be roughly 40 pages from either SWAMI Xpress or SWAMI GenoType.  The reports have a different logo on the the title page, a different heading on page 1, and the text is slightly different on pages 3-5.


Food lists may vary because a practitioner may throw additional switches which are not present in SWAMI Xpress.

When I run SWAMI GenoType, I normally get nearly the same results as if I ran the SWAMI Xpress software.


  
Posted by: Goldie, Saturday, August 10, 2013, 1:46pm; Reply: 33
INteresting link.. thanks   so add it to all foods??
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