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Posted by: D.L., Thursday, July 18, 2013, 10:12pm
As I have said before, I hate fish!!! except for the occasional fried cat fish, maybe once or twice a year. The smell of fish cooking makes me nauseated. The oily taste of fish makes me nauseated. So the only time I have had fish in a year is one fried catfish, baked talapea once, tried pollock and whiting once. I couldn't eat but one bite of the whiting (oily), and I had to coat the talapea and pollock with olive oil and lemon juice to choke it down. I just got the results of my IgG4 blood test for residual food allergies/sensitivities, which I take every year. It said I was having a moderate reaction to halibut. I've never eaten halibut in my life, that I know of. So, does anyone know of a cross-reation to another food that would affect halibut, or a hidden source of halibut? I checked the ingredients on my quality fish oil. No halibut. If I react to it even in a moderate way then I would like to figure out the source or the cross-reaction to another food. I've already explored the Internet. Not too helpful, because I haven't eaten those other fish it mentioned, unless hidden. Any comments would be helpful.
Posted by: Lola, Thursday, July 18, 2013, 11:49pm; Reply: 1
once you heal your gut, slightest intolerances showing to beneficials in your list might dissipate into thin air.......I wouldn t worry too much just concentrate on choosing clean sourced everytime.....slow wins the race

try a food log while in the process

http://www.dadamo.com/forum/archive5/config.pl?read=15141
Posted by: ruthiegirl, Friday, July 19, 2013, 8:54pm; Reply: 2
I think the issue here is that his blood tests showed that he's currently having a reaction to halibut. This doesn't just mean "he shouldn't eat halibut" but rather that he's currently reacting to it- an indication that he's somehow been exposed to it. Allergens that he's successfully avoided would not show an active reaction.

I wonder if you could be reacting to the fish from some environmental source, rather than from consuming it. Do you breathe in the air of neighbors or restaurants cooking fish?

Have you recently eaten anything that you didn't prepare yourself? Cross contamination can occur in a restaurant or even in a friend's kitchen.
Posted by: D.L., Tuesday, July 23, 2013, 1:20am; Reply: 3
I remember that I did have a serious reaction to whiting that one time I ate a little bit of it, but I don't know if whiting is related to halibut. Whiting was not included in the IgG4 test, and I can't find any info on it.  Oh, well. I'm staying away from all fish and seafood now, except maybe, maybe,a little canned Alaska salmon in the future. Many fish are avoids on my swami, anyway.
Yes, I have kept a food log for years. I have been taking glutamine powder for a couple of months now to heal my leaky gut. Doctor says probably I should take a second dose each day. I'm considering it.
Posted by: Jane, Thursday, July 25, 2013, 8:19pm; Reply: 4
DL, sometimes restaurants call a fish sub cheaper fish for something more expensive so maybe you had it and didn't realize it????  Also, maybe your dislike of fish has something to do with the way it's prepared.  There's a huge difference between canned salmon which I'm not terribly fond of and a really good piece of salmon baked or broiled.
Posted by: jayneeo, Friday, July 26, 2013, 2:43am; Reply: 5
the test was probably reflecting the whiting which you say was not on the list (of the test). they called it "halibut".
Posted by: Possum, Friday, July 26, 2013, 2:54am; Reply: 6
Or could perhaps the whiting have really been halibut & served under a wrong name?! Seeing as you had results for halibut, yet had such a *violent* reaction to what you thought was whiting?
Seems odd if no connection in that way? Sometimes places do serve fish under the wrong name, to get away with serving a cheaper food...
Posted by: D.L., Saturday, July 27, 2013, 1:26am; Reply: 7
I cooked the "whiting" myself. I was trying to find a fish that wasn't oily, so I tried that. It was several months ago. All the fish on my blood test, except the halibut, showed "low" because I didn't eat any of them. The doctor told me today that there can be a cross reactivity to foods in the same category. So maybe the whiting cross reacted in my body and showed up the same as halibut on the blood test. Or maybe what I thought I was buying as whiting was really halibut. Oh well. Thanks for your responses.
Posted by: Possum, Saturday, July 27, 2013, 5:28am; Reply: 8
Quoted from D.L.
I hate fish!!! So the only time I have had fish in a year is one fried catfish, baked talapea once, tried pollock and whiting once. I couldn't eat but one bite of the whiting (oily), and I had to coat the talapea and pollock with olive oil and lemon juice to choke it down.

Quoted from D.L.
I cooked the "whiting" myself. I was trying to find a fish that wasn't oily... Or maybe what I thought I was buying as whiting was really halibut.
Sound like it, especially as you were looking for a non oily fish & yet found the *whiting* you had bought was oily?!
Thing is too, with halibut it's high on the food chain (fish wise)so the reason for the reaction to halibut could be tied up with what it has eaten too...


Posted by: yaeli, Saturday, July 27, 2013, 7:17am; Reply: 9
I've checked in the "Public Jane" Explorer swami food lists that Lola sent

http://www.dadamo.com/SWAMI%20GenoType%20__%20Jane%20Public.pdf

In these lists halibut and whiting are black dots and tilapia is an avoid fish. Are they rated the same in your swami? If so, you don't need to bother about any of those. About fish in general, I mean fish from the superfood/diamond list, I hope that it will turn out before long as Lola said,


Quoted from Lola
once you heal your gut, slightest intolerances showing to beneficials in your list might dissipate into thin air.......I wouldn t worry too much just concentrate on choosing clean sourced everytime.....slow wins the race


Posted by: Lola, Saturday, July 27, 2013, 3:18pm; Reply: 10
Quoted Text
Dr D
The Jane Public is not a real SWAMI printout. There were just a bunch of filters and switches thrown arbitrarily so as to get a printout. I'm not saying that you should force it down your throat despite misgivings just because I said so; I'm just saying that in time that sensitivity should change for the better
Posted by: D.L., Saturday, July 27, 2013, 3:28pm; Reply: 11
I just found this on the Internet. "Fish allergies•  
If you are allergic to codfish also avoid haddock, pollock, and whiting
•  If you are allergic to crab also avoid shrimp, prawn, crayfish and lobster
•  If you are allergic to oyster also avoid clam, mussel, snail, abalone, scallop and squid
•  If you are allergic to trout you may also be sensitive to salmon
•  Grouper and sea bass cause cross-reactivity
•  Sole, halibut and flounder contain cross-reactive allergens
•  Allergic reaction to tuna most likely means a reaction to mackerel and albacore too
•  Glue used on the envelopes and adhesive stamps may contain fish oil- See more at: http://www.breastfeedingquest.com/seafood-allergy.html#sthash.yvz4cWCK.dpuf" As far as I know I haven't had any sole or flounder, but I heard fish juices are used in some restaurant-cooked foods. We do eat out occasionally, but I thought I was being careful in my choices. I also found a  site on the Internet that said if a person has a reaction to one  type of fish, be very careful if you experiment with other types. Guess I won't lick the glue on my envelopes to mail.
Posted by: D.L., Saturday, July 27, 2013, 3:30pm; Reply: 12
My doctor said to increase my glutamine to heal my gut better, so I'm going to do that.
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