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Posted by: 48073 (Guest), Sunday, June 23, 2013, 9:37am
I am wondering why on my SWAMI Explorer type A non secretor diet I am allowed ricotta cheese(superfood) which is a whey based product and not allowed whey protein powder(avoid).  Anyone have a reason for why this is the case.  Thanks.
Posted by: Lloyd, Sunday, June 23, 2013, 12:18pm; Reply: 1
The answer is "I don't know".

There are speculations that could be made which may or may not answer or partially answer the question.

Given that there is a clear rating to go on, one can assume that there is a reason. Food derivatives are sometimes rated differently than the food and we know some of the possible reasons but not the specific reason.

The short explanation is that the two different foods (food v. derivative) have different nutritional profiles, although that is not a complete answer either.
Posted by: Spring, Sunday, June 23, 2013, 7:19pm; Reply: 2
I am allowed/not allowed the same foods, but I don't eat ricotta at all because of other stuff in it. I have found only one brand of cottage cheese that I will touch with a ten foot pole for the same reason.
Posted by: ruthiegirl, Sunday, June 23, 2013, 11:12pm; Reply: 3
There might be something in the refined whey protein powder that's bad for you, or something about the processing of the whey into a powder that's problematic.

Ricotta is a natural whole food with other nutrients in there along with the whey.
Posted by: Tom Martens, Monday, June 24, 2013, 12:50am; Reply: 4
Whey protein is a mixture of globular proteins...created as a by-product of cheese production...


This sounds like the cheese might be10% lectins but when you isolate the proteins it becomes 90-100% lectins making it an avoid.

This is based on the information of the whey production process and
extrapolating the probable Lectin content.
Posted by: 48073 (Guest), Monday, June 24, 2013, 9:16am; Reply: 5
Thanks for the replies, really appreciate it.  :)
Posted by: Lola, Monday, June 24, 2013, 3:16pm; Reply: 6
ricotta, paneer, cottage cheese are fermented and devoid of the whey......whey is what is left once these above mentioned cheese have drained
Posted by: Lloyd, Monday, June 24, 2013, 3:34pm; Reply: 7
Quoted from Lola
ricotta, paneer, cottage cheese are fermented and devoid of the whey......whey is what is left once these above mentioned cheese have drained


I think you meant to say that those cheeses are non-fermented:

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There are two main types of cheese — fermented and non-fermented. Non-fermented cheeses are made by heating milk, adding an acid to it, which causes the curds and whey to separate, and then straining out the curds. These curds can be eaten while moist, such as in cottage cheese, or pressed until semi-dry and firm, such as in the Indian cheese, paneer. In either case, the cheese must be consumed quickly, or it will go bad. Fermented cheese was developed thousands of years ago as a way to make dairy products last for weeks or months.


Ricotta is also a product of this method, and is comprised primarily of the whey.
Posted by: AKArtlover, Wednesday, June 26, 2013, 10:41am; Reply: 8
I thought the whey was the drained off part after the making of it. When I made farmer's cheese, I drained the whey. What is the cheese is the curds.
Posted by: yaeli, Wednesday, June 26, 2013, 11:21am; Reply: 9
Since early childhood I found whey powder repulsive. This hasn't changed. It's too difficult for me even taste a food that contains it.
Posted by: Lloyd, Wednesday, June 26, 2013, 12:06pm; Reply: 10
Quoted from AKArtlover
I thought the whey was the drained off part after the making of it. When I made farmer's cheese, I drained the whey. What is the cheese is the curds.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ricotta

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Ricotta (Italian pronunciation: [riˈkɔtta]) is an Italian whey cheese made from sheep (or cow, goat, or Italian buffalo) milk whey left over from the production of cheese.


Ricotta is a whey cheese.
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