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Posted by: aussielady582, Monday, May 27, 2013, 4:55am
I now really appreciate the healing/strengthening benefits of ghee and duck fat, and give thanks to the wonderful animals providing this fat which is helping improve my health.  I had dry skin/hair for a long time, now this is changing. and this fat gives a nice yang energy on a subtle level, which is balancing.  the benefit are numerous.
Posted by: Lola, Monday, May 27, 2013, 6:58am; Reply: 1
I ll stick with ghee, ty! :)
Posted by: weekender, Monday, May 27, 2013, 10:36am; Reply: 2
Ghee is definitely awesome. I notice how much of a change it has made with healing my gut. I'm way less reactive now - I think the ghee plus the bone stock I make are responsible for that.
Posted by: Henriette Bsec, Monday, May 27, 2013, 11:45am; Reply: 3
After years with mainly vegetarian oils I must admit animals fats make me feel and look good ;D

I do miss good bacon dripping and goose or duck fat - makes fried things so crisp - but then I´ve got ghee and butter as diamonds :) whatt NOT to like;)
Posted by: Lloyd, Monday, May 27, 2013, 12:19pm; Reply: 4
Duck fat is a nice treat for me.

I only roast a duck 2-3 times a year and allow myself to enjoy both the fat and the skin more than I would if it were a more regular food for me.
Posted by: aussielady582, Friday, May 31, 2013, 12:49am; Reply: 5
Thankyou all for your comments, will buy more ghee today as seemed to use more than usual recently, think my intuition told me I needed it as had eaten grains/dairy and cooked starches and think my intestinal lining was inflamed again, also will buy duck today - buy it occasionally, when budget allows, I prefer duck to chicken.  Fish/esp sardines work best for me - like salmon sometimes, cod nice, then lamb, duck, beef and some eggs.  never dairy again as I also think it interferes with mineral absorption, and I must learn more about casein / lactose soon.
Save fat after cooking duck, can fry liver or eggs, or onions in duck fat, good to be economical. yesterday I cooked lamb neck casserole for lunch time, was surprised how I enjoyed it, easy to cook in oven - himalyan mountain salt, a dash of cayenne pepper, dried oregano brought out the flavour, as well as veg  - parsnip, carrot, turnip, onion.  Plus fresh ginger/garlic.
Posted by: aussielady582, Friday, May 31, 2013, 12:52am; Reply: 6
bone stock, yes - good, I also added lamb loin chop bones to beef bones this week for broth, I can feel the soothing quality as I drink the broth. I also added some sea vegetables and parsely but I like to strain before eating as I don't want starchy foods in my system.  (SCD diet says no to sea vegetables)!
Posted by: ARIEL, Monday, February 22, 2016, 7:21pm; Reply: 7
Is duck fat okay for B and  AB?
Posted by: ruthiegirl, Monday, February 22, 2016, 7:31pm; Reply: 8
The general consensus is that the fat is OK if the animal is OK for your type. It's only different if the fat is rated separately. For example, olive oil is listed separately from whole olives,and butter is listed separately from milk.

It looks like duck is an avoid for Bs, so the duck fat would be an avoid as well.  Turkey and turkey fat should be OK.
http://www.dadamo.com/typebase4/depictor5.pl?144

You can look up any food in the typebase. This just lists all the foods evaluated for Blood  Type Diet; to see how it rates for you, you need to click on the food and wait for the page with more information to load.

http://www.dadamo.com/typebase4/typeindexer.htm
Posted by: Patty H, Tuesday, February 23, 2016, 12:28am; Reply: 9
Quoted from aussielady582
Thankyou all for your comments, will buy more ghee today as seemed to use more than usual recently, think my intuition told me I needed it as had eaten grains/dairy and cooked starches and think my intestinal lining was inflamed again, also will buy duck today - buy it occasionally, when budget allows, I prefer duck to chicken.  Fish/esp sardines work best for me - like salmon sometimes, cod nice, then lamb, duck, beef and some eggs.  never dairy again as I also think it interferes with mineral absorption, and I must learn more about casein / lactose soon.
Save fat after cooking duck, can fry liver or eggs, or onions in duck fat, good to be economical. yesterday I cooked lamb neck casserole for lunch time, was surprised how I enjoyed it, easy to cook in oven - himalyan mountain salt, a dash of cayenne pepper, dried oregano brought out the flavour, as well as veg  - parsnip, carrot, turnip, onion.  Plus fresh ginger/garlic.


Try making your own ghee!  It's very easy and the results are amazing!!!  It's expensive to buy and what I like about making it is that I can control the butter I use to make it - as in from grass fed cows.
Posted by: Kryselia sunrise, Tuesday, February 23, 2016, 2:21am; Reply: 10
Oh yes, i appreciate it too a lot !!!
I always have a home made bottle of ghee in the kitchen. :)
I love to make it.
So powerful.
Posted by: san j, Friday, March 11, 2016, 1:03am; Reply: 11
Quoted from aussielady582
I now really appreciate the healing/strengthening benefits of ghee and duck fat, and give thanks to the wonderful animals providing this fat which is helping improve my health.  I had dry skin/hair for a long time, now this is changing. and this fat gives a nice yang energy on a subtle level, which is balancing.  the benefit are numerous.
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also will buy duck today - buy it occasionally, when budget allows, I prefer duck to chicken.  Fish/esp sardines work best for me - like salmon sometimes, cod nice, then lamb, duck, beef and some eggs.  never dairy again as I also think it interferes with mineral absorption, and I must learn more about casein / lactose soon.
Save fat after cooking duck, can fry liver or eggs, or onions in duck fat, good to be economical. yesterday I cooked lamb neck casserole for lunch time, was surprised how I enjoyed it, easy to cook in oven - himalyan mountain salt, a dash of cayenne pepper, dried oregano brought out the flavour, as well as veg  - parsnip, carrot, turnip, onion.  Plus fresh ginger/garlic.

aussielady:
You may talk Duck Fat to me as much as you like. Food Porn to the max.
I no longer eat it, but it's a Chef's Secret Ingredient,
and the fat/skin is a distant pleasant memory for me.
When you embellished the description with cayenne, oregano, and garlic,
I was Almost There.
:D :D :D

Posted by: BluesSinger, Saturday, March 12, 2016, 4:27am; Reply: 12
Well.. all of you speak of Ghee.. but my Swami says only 1 tsp 3 x a week!   Patty recently suggested I ditch using Olive Oil, Rice Bran Oil and Walnut Oil for anything other than salad dressings and use ghee to cook with and for all else.  

Is anyone else ignoring the Swami suggestion of such low amounts and just eating what they want of it?  

You'd think that if it was so healing for my gut that Swami would recommend loads of it!
Posted by: 75648 (Guest), Saturday, March 12, 2016, 8:50am; Reply: 13
Quoted from BluesSinger
Well.. all of you speak of Ghee.. but my Swami says only 1 tsp 3 x a week!   Patty recently suggested I ditch using Olive Oil, Rice Bran Oil and Walnut Oil for anything other than salad dressings and use ghee to cook with and for all else.  

Is anyone else ignoring the Swami suggestion of such low amounts and just eating what they want of it?  

You'd think that if it was so healing for my gut that Swami would recommend loads of it!


I find this confusing when currently have a dozen oils that are mostly diamonds but only get 5 servings weekly of a table spoon. Ghee is listed in dairy but still eat much more, and if taking Intrinsa obviously much more

Maybe it's best to treat the oils as supplements and just stick with olive oil as the swami oil serving
Posted by: Mother, Saturday, March 12, 2016, 2:31pm; Reply: 14
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Is anyone else ignoring the Swami suggestion of such low amounts and just eating what they want of it?  


well something changed on my SWAMI and I now get 1/2 tsp a week of ghee. I prefer butter and I definitely ignore that trivial amount.
I also noticed that when I put joint problems in I get Bell, chili and jalapeno peppers, eggplant and tomatillos as bennies. It is very well known how inflammatory nightshades are so I guess I will be ignoring that too.  
Posted by: BluesSinger, Saturday, March 12, 2016, 4:15pm; Reply: 15
Quoted from Mother


well something changed on my SWAMI and I now get 1/2 tsp a week of ghee. I prefer butter and I definitely ignore that trivial amount.
I also noticed that when I put joint problems in I get Bell, chili and jalapeno peppers, eggplant and tomatillos as bennies. It is very well known how inflammatory nightshades are so I guess I will be ignoring that too.  


It's extremely BIZARRE why Swami does this.  I have ever possible box checked to indicate joint problems with family and myself and still I get the foods you have listed as bennies (even diamonds),  and also I am allowed tomato juice!

I wish someone would explain this!  
Posted by: Patty H, Saturday, March 12, 2016, 5:11pm; Reply: 16
Quoted from BluesSinger
Well.. all of you speak of Ghee.. but my Swami says only 1 tsp 3 x a week!   Patty recently suggested I ditch using Olive Oil, Rice Bran Oil and Walnut Oil for anything other than salad dressings and use ghee to cook with and for all else.  

Is anyone else ignoring the Swami suggestion of such low amounts and just eating what they want of it?  

You'd think that if it was so healing for my gut that Swami would recommend loads of it!


I, too, ignore the Frequency and Portion Size when it comes to ghee.  I do this with olive oil as well.  I'm less worried about high quality fat than I am about sugar, grains and dairy.
Posted by: Chloe, Saturday, March 12, 2016, 5:26pm; Reply: 17
I make my own adjustments to ghee portions......I have very small portions of ghee listed on my SWAMI...Ghee is a diamond..and sometimes for
many days in a row, I'm using olive oil or another fat and no ghee at all.... and then if I need to use ghee, I just use whatever I think I need.  This AM I made eggs in ghee...probably used 2 tsp....when 1/2 tsp is listed as a portion 3x a week.  Really....I am compliant with a food list...I don't eat toxins....but if one fat can be traded for another and I'm not totally overdoing fats for any given day, I do whatever I feel is necessary.  

I don't want to get off track....but I've got two diamond cheeses on my SWAMI with portions that are listed like this:....1-3 oz per portion....5 times a week.  Do I want to eat 15 oz of full fat cheese per week?  Or 5 oz of cheese per week?  Or do I want to use 2 tsp of ghee instead of 1/2 tsp?

Sometimes I have to make choices like this...I often eat less of something or more of something else.  I would never double my bread portions...
but using a little extra ghee?  Yes I do it.

Please don't send the ghee police after me. I'm armed and dangerous!  LOL
Posted by: Mrs T O+, Saturday, March 12, 2016, 6:30pm; Reply: 18
I eat a lot more than the 8 tbsps a week they recommend of olive oil. We Os need out fat!
After menopause, I quit craving butter, but I used to eat quite a bit. I'm glad I dont crave it too often.
I agree that starches & sugars are worse!
Posted by: BluesSinger, Saturday, March 12, 2016, 6:37pm; Reply: 19
Quoted from Mrs T O+
I eat a lot more than the 8 tbsps a week they recommend of olive oil. We Os need out fat!
After menopause, I quit craving butter, but I used to eat quite a bit. I'm glad I dont crave it too often.
I agree that starches & sugars are worse!


ha ha.. me too.  
Posted by: jayneeo, Saturday, March 12, 2016, 8:19pm; Reply: 20
ha ha me three!
I also looove duck fat….my dh does a duck every now and then and I am the lucky recipient of the fat and the fabulous stock!
Posted by: Mother, Saturday, March 12, 2016, 9:21pm; Reply: 21
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It's extremely BIZARRE why Swami does this.  I have ever possible box checked to indicate joint problems with family and myself and still I get the foods you have listed as bennies (even diamonds),  and also I am allowed tomato juice!

I wish someone would explain this!


MOST annoying. Also I tried logging into SWAMI to check on tomato juice but the site is down. I will look later. I find I am tweaking SWAMI so much it is hardly worth looking at. I do eat more fat than recommended and I stick to the bennies (except mayo) and I stick to the bennie proteins and as you know I eat no grains carbs or fruit/sweeteners/sugar/juice etc so those categories are completely off the board. I do eat some bennie nuts and seeds but no on the beans. If arthritis is your main complaint I would use the arthritis book and do as Patty has recommended as well as ditch the nightshades, good or bad. I LOVE spicy foods so when I want nightshade I save them for hot sauces or Salsas. Best with just the peppers and not tomato and I can get away with it as I only need condiment quantities.
I will get back to you when SWAMI will let me, haha
Posted by: Mother, Saturday, March 12, 2016, 9:40pm; Reply: 22
HAHAHAHA. Just checked. Tomato juice is neutral on SWAMI but a complete avoid for me
Posted by: BluesSinger, Saturday, March 12, 2016, 10:01pm; Reply: 23
Quoted from Mother
HAHAHAHA. Just checked. Tomato juice is neutral on SWAMI but a complete avoid for me


how can it be both?

I have a very hard time following the Arthritis Book as it is outdated and so many foods are not listed.   I try to not eat the ones they list but there are so many that are not listed.  So I am going by trial and error or I should say.. 'trial and pain response.'
Posted by: Mother, Sunday, March 13, 2016, 12:41am; Reply: 24
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how can it be both?

I have a very hard time following the Arthritis Book as it is outdated and so many foods are not listed.   I try to not eat the ones they list but there are so many that are not listed.  So I am going by trial and error or I should say.. 'trial and pain response.'


THAT is the BIG question! BT seems much better for me than SWAMI but still off. I liked SWAMI when I 1st got it because it rated SO many more foods but come to find out most didn't work.
I think you should go by pain response of course.
Personally for me and coincidentally for Patty, ALL grains and dairy cause issues. Nightshades are right up there too and to be honest, too many nuts cause restless leg. So I guess for me the best diet is veggies (salad greens) EVOO, avocado , olives and a few nuts keep me happy (yes avocado is avoid but for me it is a diamond) . I keep it very simple and minimalized these days. Happy tummy, blood sugar and aches.
Posted by: Mother, Sunday, March 13, 2016, 1:16am; Reply: 25
BTW I also avoid almonds in any shape or form (and are diamond) because they create all kinds of issues. From leg pain to ravenous hunger to insomnia etc. Just an FYI
Posted by: BluesSinger, Sunday, March 13, 2016, 2:30am; Reply: 26
Quoted from Mother


THAT is the BIG question! BT seems much better for me than SWAMI but still off. I liked SWAMI when I 1st got it because it rated SO many more foods but come to find out most didn't work.
I think you should go by pain response of course.
Personally for me and coincidentally for Patty, ALL grains and dairy cause issues. Nightshades are right up there too and to be honest, too many nuts cause restless leg. So I guess for me the best diet is veggies (salad greens) EVOO, avocado , olives and a few nuts keep me happy (yes avocado is avoid but for me it is a diamond) . I keep it very simple and minimalized these days. Happy tummy, blood sugar and aches.


BIZAARE about Avocado.   I only get restless legs when my hormones are off.   Caffeine from anything throws my hormones off and sure enough the restless legs attack!    Olives?  TOTAL avoid for me.  It's interesting we are both O's and the slight differences we each have in our food plans.  

Posted by: Patty H, Sunday, March 13, 2016, 2:49am; Reply: 27
Quoted from BluesSinger


BIZAARE about Avocado.   I only get restless legs when my hormones are off.   Caffeine from anything throws my hormones off and sure enough the restless legs attack!    Olives?  TOTAL avoid for me.  It's interesting we are both O's and the slight differences we each have in our food plans.  



Yes - and I see you are both secretors and I am not, so I can eat almonds and caffeine, in small quantities, does not bother me.  I have never had restless leg syndrome either.  Mother cannot supplement with magnesium and I take a boat load (that's a northeast term  ;D) of it every night before bed.  We are all individuals, and even our secretor status is important to our individuality.  Avocado is a neutral for nonnies and I eat it several times per week.  I am also upping my mushroom consumption (thank you Amazone) due to the medicinal properties of mushrooms.  Maitake mushrooms are my new best friend!
Posted by: Mother, Sunday, March 13, 2016, 3:34am; Reply: 28
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Maitake mushrooms are my new best friend!

LOVE them. Our Costco has organic ones and I just crumble them in my hands and saute in garlc oil and sea salt.

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only get restless legs when my hormones are off.   Caffeine from anything throws my hormones off


I actually rarely get RL anymore but caffeine throws everything off. Hard to give up the Joes in this nasty dreary weather.

It is odd for me that magnesium causes muscle aches and insomnia for me as this is the opposite of what it should do.

What happens when you eat olives?

It is strange too that if I don't have avocado for breakfast I would die for it at lunch and if I still don't have it by dinner I would kill for it, haha. My blood work this year was the best it has been in 10 + years. I really believe the type of fats makes a big difference. Lots of mono fats for me and low saturated.
Posted by: cajun, Monday, March 14, 2016, 6:47pm; Reply: 29
Slow roasted in butter duck leg in La Rogue-Gageac France; a small town on the Dordogne river in west/central France.
The best culinary experience ever!!!!!! :K) ;) It is an avoid for me but I love, love, love it!!!!!!

Thank goodness almonds and coffee are superfoods on my swami!!!!!  Avocados, also!  :)
I do drink tea more often than coffee but really enjoy it as a "misto"; steamed soy or almond milk on bottom, brewed coffee pouted over top
and mixed with ground vanilla beans. Yummo!
Posted by: Mark, Monday, March 14, 2016, 8:38pm; Reply: 30
Quoted from aussielady582
I now really appreciate the healing/strengthening benefits of ghee and duck fat, and give thanks to the wonderful animals providing this fat which is helping improve my health.  I had dry skin/hair for a long time, now this is changing. and this fat gives a nice yang energy on a subtle level, which is balancing.  the benefit are numerous.

Duck fat sounds like too much n-6 PUFA.
Posted by: Mother, Tuesday, March 15, 2016, 12:06am; Reply: 31
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Duck fat sounds like too much n-6 PUFA.


I agree!
Posted by: ruthiegirl, Tuesday, March 15, 2016, 12:21am; Reply: 32
When I first got SWAMI, I tried to be 100% compliant with all portion sizes. The end result? After two days, I was feeling weak from inadequate food intake. I have a SWAMI pro so I can't just play around with the portion size settings, and I'm not going to bother Andrea with that unless something major changes in my health. I went back to her when I got my secretor status tested, and I'll probably have her rerun it when I start Menopause. I'm debating whether or not my current heart problems warrant a phone call and possibly a trip to see her, when I already have a family history of heart disease in SWAMI.

I completely ignore the reccomended portions for fat and mostly ignore the portions for protein foods. I view the beverages and vegetables as minimums. I am careful to follow the reccomended portions for fruits, grains, and added sugars. I'm not always successful, mind you, but I aim for it.

I'm currently overweight, but I'm also unable to exercise right now because of my heart. And when I've tried cutting back on my food intake, I've gotten some nasty mood reactions. I'm also prone to grabbing too many carbs at night if I've eaten too little food during the day. So it's MUCH healthier for me to eat "too much" fat and protein than it is for me to try to limit them. Only a few months ago, I was so depressed I had some days when I forgot to eat.  That needs to be prevented at all costs. I need to get my body into balance and THEN work on weight loss.
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