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Posted by: Life Dancer, Wednesday, March 27, 2013, 1:32am
Hello All,

I'm a new O+ that has had mild hypothyroidism for over 25+years, going through menopause 2+ years and have had non-responsive yeast infections the last 1+ years.  But what drove me to find this diet option was the terrible constipation, bloating and gas I have been having the last 3+ months, not to mention embarrassing red, irritated skin around my anus (yeast?).  One month ago I cut out gluten, reduced my sugar intake and started the BTD a week ago but am still suffering these major digestive symptoms.

Any suggestions you can give me to more quickly relieve these symptoms would be appreciated.  I can't spend a lot of money on supplements and am going to the store right now for Castor Oil which I read about on this forum.
Posted by: ABJoe, Wednesday, March 27, 2013, 2:00am; Reply: 1
The first suggestion is to stop eating all avoid foods - obviously...  Your problem didn't happen overnight, so I don't expect it to stop and heal that way either.  It will take time to fix the digestive upset.  Beneficial foods, ghee, very little sugar and even reduced fruit and starchy vegetable intake at least initially to reduce sugar-dependent bugs.  
Some per-type probiotic would be great, as well, but I don't know whether that exceeds your budget...
Posted by: Possum, Wednesday, March 27, 2013, 2:00am; Reply: 2
Hi there... Glad you found this forum ;) How are you going to use the castor oil? You may want to start applying it externally?!
Have you got any iodine?
Posted by: KimonoKat, Wednesday, March 27, 2013, 2:02am; Reply: 3
Welcome Life Dancer.

Can you tell us what level of the diet you are following?  Blood Type Diet, BTD with secretor status...or have you investigated the GenoType Diet and considered a SWAMI?  (Serotyping With Advanced Modifying Indicators)

The reason I ask is that, you've had the hypothyroidism for a long time.  A health issue that deep seated will take some time to see some improvement.  The gas and bloating will get better in time. I would recommend some supplements to help the healing process, but it's not currently in your budget.

Have you had chronic yeast infections?  Yeast can be a persnickety issue to get over, especially if it has bored through your intestinal wall.

But don't fear. We are all here to help you.

First off, tell us what you are eating. That would be a start.  Are you eating any grain or avoids?

Sharing with the best of intentions.
Posted by: snazzyshazz, Wednesday, March 27, 2013, 2:34am; Reply: 4
Quoted from Possum
How are you going to use the castor oil? You may want to start applying it externally?!


I thought of this too, Possum. I use ordinary extra virgin olive oil externally every night as a skin nourishing treatment, but I find it is equally helpful used around the anus and genitals anytime there is irritation or inflammation. A drop or two of lavender oil in the olive oil doesn't go astray, either.

Welcome Life Dancer! You will find lots of help and wisdom on this site.
Posted by: Life Dancer, Wednesday, March 27, 2013, 2:43am; Reply: 5
Thank you both for responding.  

I was going to ingest the castor oil for overnight relief?  I usually eat prunes before bed 1-2x  a week and sometimes Milk of Magnesia, but the problem seems to be getting worse.  I've always eaten lots of fiber (grain) and veggies just for this reason.  I do not eat much junk food, but have a hard time resisting my daily sweet.  I drink mostly water, but am still drinking coffee 2-3 cups a day, with 2 cups of herb and green tea a day.  And have been doing moderate aerobic exercise since the 1st of the year.

I just got the genotype book and kit, but have not read up on that yet.  The only grains I have been eating are oats, oat bran, rice, rice crackers and rice noodles.  I've just cut out corn and potatoes in the last week. I have also been avoiding most dairy products except for yogurt 2x a week.  I haven't added additional protein to my diet yet, and have been eating mostly chicken, raw almonds, soy milk, garbonzo beans and eggs for that.  I eat fruit and use juice very sparingly.

I have really gotten to the point that I am afraid of eating anything,  Thanks again for your input!
Posted by: C_Sharp, Wednesday, March 27, 2013, 3:16am; Reply: 6
Quoted from Life Dancer

I was going to ingest the castor oil for overnight relief?  I usually eat prunes before bed 1-2x  a week

For the constipation, you might want to consider if you are getting enough magnesium.



Posted by: Possum, Wednesday, March 27, 2013, 3:17am; Reply: 7
Yeah it gets hard eh? But some easy things I'd eliminate straight away to see if they help, would be:
Garbanzo beans,
Yoghurt (particularly if it is flavoured)
eat more beef (maybe even substitute for the chicken for now)
Soy milk,
Soak the almonds,
Oats
Check your rice crackers for other ingredients (flavourings etc)

If you focus more on adding good fats & going completely grain free you may find your digestion improves...

If you have been eating corn up till only a week ago, it can take a while to work its way out of your system... Some people who have done detoxes have actually found corn, even though it had been years since they'd eaten any...
Posted by: snazzyshazz, Wednesday, March 27, 2013, 3:19am; Reply: 8
Life Dancer, you may be a non-secretor.

Oats give me terrible indigestion, and garbanzo beans are an avoid for me. I never did well on them anyway. Beef and vegies give me the best results as far as digestive/bowel function goes. I know its counter-intuitive to cut the grains and increase red meat to help with constipation, but that formula is repeated over and over on this forum as the best solution for O's with constipation and digestive problems. Give it a try!
Posted by: C_Sharp, Wednesday, March 27, 2013, 3:19am; Reply: 9
Don't try to do both blood type diet and GenoType diet at the same time.

Choose one of the other:

http://www.dadamo.com/which_diet_is_right.htm
Posted by: ABJoe, Wednesday, March 27, 2013, 3:19am; Reply: 10
Quoted from Life Dancer
I've always eaten lots of fiber (grain) and veggies just for this reason.  I do not eat much junk food, but have a hard time resisting my daily sweet.  I drink mostly water, but am still drinking coffee 2-3 cups a day, with 2 cups of herb and green tea a day.  And have been doing moderate aerobic exercise since the 1st of the year.

The only grains I have been eating are oats, oat bran, rice, rice crackers and rice noodles.  I've just cut out corn and potatoes in the last week. I have also been avoiding most dairy products except for yogurt 2x a week.  

I haven't added additional protein to my diet yet, and have been eating mostly chicken, raw almonds, soy milk, garbonzo beans and eggs for that.  I eat fruit and use juice very sparingly.

It would be more helpful for your healing if you add beneficial foods to you diet.  Eating Neutral foods is great for food value, but the beneficial foods are like medicine.  For instance, looking at the protein list you have:
Chicken - Neutral
almonds - Neutral
soy milk - neutral
beans, garbanzo - neutral
eggs - you can eat up to 5 per week but is generally a poor protein source for your type. (ER4YT pg. 59)

Better would be Beef, Lamb, some beneficial fish - huge list, pumpkin seeds or walnuts, pinto beans or black-eyed peas...

Of course, there are many beneficial vegetables, but no beneficial grains and only a few beneficial fruits.

Also, be sure to get in the beneficial oils and fats...
Posted by: Lola, Wednesday, March 27, 2013, 4:18am; Reply: 11
Quoted Text
am still drinking coffee 2-3 cups a day


try substituting with mate tea

coffee triggers an insulin resistance in us Os and might just be one of the main avoids you will wish to get rid off
Posted by: Life Dancer, Wednesday, March 27, 2013, 4:43am; Reply: 12
All Excellent suggestions and also the much needed to support I needed to help stay on track.  I am finding it difficult to change my diet with so much avoid around me and feel sad to give up food I have enjoyed so much in the past, but my energy and vigor are worth it.  

Maybe beef stir frys would be a good start - beef/veggies/good fats.  I need to gather some recipes, make a list and make a trip to the store.  I am still stumped on what to do for breakfast.  I have been making smoothies with protein powder.  I have to eat breakfast on my way to work or at my desk.  Luckily, we have a salad bar at work, so that's what I eat for lunch with an animal protein or egg.  Also, what do you think are the best things for me to snack on?  

Thank you so much for your help.

PS  I'm thinking I might be a non-secretor too.
Posted by: Victoria, Wednesday, March 27, 2013, 4:43am; Reply: 13
No matter what the chronic condition that we might be dealing with, the number one first idea is to go for a high level of compliance with your diet, especially emphasizing the Beneficial foods.  They are the ones that heal.  Neutrals might not be harmful, but they don't do a lot in the way of positive transformation.  Avoids are poisons to the system.  A healthy person might be able to handle occasional Avoids, but if your desire is to overcome illness, imbalance, disease, weight problems, etc., go for the Beneficial foods.

Ah, we just posted at the same time!  Great minds, and all that!.
Posted by: Life Dancer, Wednesday, March 27, 2013, 4:47am; Reply: 14
PSS  I have never eaten a lot of the foods on the beneficial list, lamb, fish, game meat, pumpkin seeds, black-eyed peas, collard greens to name a few.  So,  it's almost like having to learn how to eat again.  Kind of over whelming.
Posted by: Victoria, Wednesday, March 27, 2013, 5:09am; Reply: 15
You aren't alone!  I came into the BTD at about the same age you are now, and I had previously followed a way of eating that was at least 90% Avoids.  Most of the food I ate was pre-prepared in one form or another.  Not only did I have to learn how to shop for foods I had never eaten, I had to learn to cook all over again.  Wow!  It has SO been worth it!  I spent a lifetime with IBS, bloating and pain; chronic yeast overgrowth, chronic sinus infections, I could go on with a long list of things that I assumed everyone went through until I finally realized that I was the one who needed to make some changes.

I can happily say that nearly all of my complaints are completely gone.  From time to time, I'll have a flare-up or something or another and after a short while, it's gone and I feel even better than before.  Healing crisis.  ;)
Posted by: Victoria, Wednesday, March 27, 2013, 5:15am; Reply: 16
Quoted from Life Dancer
PSS  I have never eaten a lot of the foods on the beneficial list, lamb, fish, game meat, pumpkin seeds, black-eyed peas, collard greens to name a few.  So,  it's almost like having to learn how to eat again.  Kind of over whelming.


It's not necessary for you to introduce a ton of completely new foods all at once.  Try and become comfortable eating a beneficial red meat, a beneficial fish and a few beneficial vegetables that you already are familiar with.  Let go of the Avoids at first that you are not that attached to.  Take advantage of every opportunity to stop the Avoids you don't care about so much.  Leave your big attachments for a while until you feel more confident at each stage.   You'll do fine.  :D
Posted by: snazzyshazz, Wednesday, March 27, 2013, 11:11am; Reply: 17
On the breakfast question, there is a thread completely devoted to ideas for O's.

You have to think outside the box (especially the cereal box :D ) Many of us do well on things like leftovers. For the moment I am doing really well on rice cakes with almond butter, and some raw vegie sticks (summer is only just finishing here!)Easy and transportable!!

Lola suggested mate instead of coffee. Some of us really enjoy a teaspoon of cocoa powder in hot water with some molasses - a nice morning drink instead of coffee (and you still get a hit of caffeine, compliantly!!!)
Posted by: Life Dancer, Wednesday, March 27, 2013, 11:17am; Reply: 18
Good Morning,

The new comments made me smile, laugh and cry from joy knowing that I am on the right path to wellness, finally :o  With what we are taught about healthful eating, I have always eaten like a type A.

Last night I had a Carl's Jr No Carb $6 burger, with only beef, mustard, onion and lettuce and sweet potato fries (I needed some comfort food, but the burger tasted better).  I ate the whole thing.  To my AMAZEMENT, during my morning 25 minute aerobic work out, I had energy!  The first time ever!!!  I never once felt like stopping and sitting down.  Usually, 1/3 of the way into it, I have to push myself to keep going...but not today!!!

Never in my life have I had energy.  Sometimes I wonder how I am going to make it through the day and can't imagine going on like that anymore.  I've had to use coffee, will power and love for others to keep going.  I'm so happy that now I am learning to eat the right foods that will give me the energy we were meant to have :D

I'm off to work now.  I am soooo grateful for your support.

Cheers!
Posted by: lann1958, Wednesday, March 27, 2013, 11:29am; Reply: 19
the best thing i found personally for constipation is whole flax seed. i know the ground flax seeds is better for nutrient absorption but if you add the whole ones that will give you the fiber you need. hope this helps.
Posted by: SquarePeg, Wednesday, March 27, 2013, 12:03pm; Reply: 20
Beef and especially lamb are very energizing for me.  Also, soy and chickpeas bloat the heck out of me.  You can try rice milk instead of soy milk.  Others recommended alternate legumes to replace click peas.  I do well with adzuki beans, black beans, and black eyed peas.  I can also tolerate pinto beans.  I've found hummus made from black beans.  But usually I just add the beans to a pile of salad greens.  I think the bloating and gas may resolve within a few days or a week.

Coconut oil is an amazing antimicrobial agent.  But it's an avoid for type O.  Yet I sometimes add it to my diet briefly along with garlic when my sinus issues start up.

Good luck and welcome!
Posted by: Andrea AWsec, Wednesday, March 27, 2013, 12:12pm; Reply: 21
Desitin will help your bottom-- put it on over night.

I suggest getting a secretor test  this will help quite a bit with your health. Knowing this piece of information will help tailor your diet. :)
Posted by: Goldie, Wednesday, March 27, 2013, 12:19pm; Reply: 22
To your original question..

What to do.. read whatever BTD book you have from cover to cover..

Then go Typebase under Online Support above to get some more info..

Have you ever tried a shower head for your back side?  cleans out the bottom nicer.. worth the investment to attach it to the shower..

I like olive oil best as it is not harmful.  

Constipation in o's is a constant. You seem to do the Magnesium the best way.  

Going on Geno is not important for now.. first get used to BTD it is a good beginning and good for overall education, simpler too.  Later Geno is OK..

If you can get organic dandelions and make dark juice, drink no more then 1/2 glass but keep it up for 6 weeks.. cleans out old gunk..

Welcome 8).



  
Posted by: rosa, Thursday, March 28, 2013, 12:41pm; Reply: 23
Welcome to a whole new way of eating :)
Many of us O´s here have spent a lifetime eating incorrectly for our type...more like A´s ...I was there too! I also had all of you health issues... I´m a practicing natural nutritionist and even then I assumed a healthy way of eating was to eat lots of wholegrains and pulses in preference to meats... :-/

Having read the BTD book 12 or 13 years ago I tried it for a while then went back to my old "healthy" ways..until I stumbled across the BTD/GTD every now and again over the years until I finally embraced it and felt its´benefits  :D

Constipation and bloating had always been issues for me...not any more though! When I eat steak or lamb I feel like my whole digestion is working perfectly...no bloating or discomfort...and feel more energised!I´m still not eating meat every day, but each week I add a little more...no more pulses for me apart from butter beans

There is wonderful support and advice here..best of luck :)
Posted by: jeanb, Thursday, March 28, 2013, 1:39pm; Reply: 24
If you are hypothyroid, you will need more magnesium.  I take 500 to750 mg per day of mg because of the hypothyroidism issues and have no constipation issues now.
Posted by: KimonoKat, Thursday, March 28, 2013, 2:19pm; Reply: 25
Quoted from Life Dancer
Good Morning,

The new comments made me smile, laugh and cry from joy knowing that I am on the right path to wellness, finally :o  With what we are taught about healthful eating, I have always eaten like a type A.

Last night I had a Carl's Jr No Carb $6 burger, with only beef, mustard, onion and lettuce and sweet potato fries (I needed some comfort food, but the burger tasted better).  I ate the whole thing.  To my AMAZEMENT, during my morning 25 minute aerobic work out, I had energy!  The first time ever!!!  I never once felt like stopping and sitting down.  Usually, 1/3 of the way into it, I have to push myself to keep going...but not today!!!

Never in my life have I had energy.  Sometimes I wonder how I am going to make it through the day and can't imagine going on like that anymore.  I've had to use coffee, will power and love for others to keep going.  I'm so happy that now I am learning to eat the right foods that will give me the energy we were meant to have :D

I'm off to work now.  I am soooo grateful for your support.

Cheers!


This is what beef does for you.  Beef for O's is like the gold standard.  It's one of the best proteins for you. Interestingly, you don't need it every day, but at least a few times per week.

The mustard and ketchup your body can do without. Virtually all sweet potato fries offered in restaurants or packaged in frozen food sections have been battered with wheat or fried in an unacceptable oil.  Keep that in mind.

<3 <3 <3

Sharing with the best of intentions.
Posted by: KimonoKat, Thursday, March 28, 2013, 2:22pm; Reply: 26
P.S.  Why not have beef for breakfast?  We have either beef, lamb, fish, chicken, turkey for breakfast every day.  This is normal for us. <3
Posted by: Jane, Thursday, March 28, 2013, 2:42pm; Reply: 27
Welcome,
A lot of us here have been where you are.  I had thyroid problems for years and finally had my thyroid out (very tiny thyroid cancer due to radiation as a child).  It took me a year to give up my morning coffee but I eventually did it.  I drink Republic of Tea green teas instead now, occasionally mates or rooibus (red tea).
For breakfast I either have eggs scrambled in ghee with nutritional yeast sprinkled on top (tastes cheesy) with some almond butter on the side.  I alternate with chia seed shakes that I make the night before.  I use 2T.organic unsweetened cocoa, 2 T fresh almond butter, whatever fruit I have around (blueberries are especially good, so are bananas, pineapple) 2 T chia seeds and one date for sweetness if it's not sweet enough.  I add liquid from the pineapple or water and blend in a magic bullet.  It thickens up in the frig and is enough for 2 breakfasts.

Hope you enjoy your journey.  Some of us have been here for a long time - mid 90s.
Jane
Posted by: ruthiegirl, Thursday, March 28, 2013, 8:14pm; Reply: 28
You don't need to eat ALL the beneficial foods listed. It really is OK if you just eat the ones that are familiar to you and readily available at a reasonable price. There are a lot of beneficial foods on my personalized SWAMI that I've never eaten: fish I can't obtain with proper kosher certification, plus many exotic fruits and veggies that don't grow locally and are beyond my  budget when I do find them at places like Whole Foods.

Since you have so many health issues, I'd suggest that you get a secretor test. If you can't afford that right now, you may want to avoid all the "non secretor avoids" along with all the "secretor avoids" until you're able to get the test. Basically, follow the non-secretor diet, but don't include lentils, avocados, or coconut oil. This way you're less likely to be accidentally ingesting foods that cause you problems, and you can heal faster.

If you already have a lot of oats (and garbanzo beans, etc) in the house, go ahead and use up what you've purchased. It's OK to ease into this diet  gradually- don't make yourself crazy! But when it's time to go food shopping again, focus on the foods that you're sure are fine for all Os.
Posted by: marjorie, Friday, March 29, 2013, 4:36am; Reply: 29
Welcome! you will love this lifestyle. it is not a diet, but a way of life.

Stay focused, and try to get as much of the beneficials as you can.

Great job on the working out and be proud of yourself for looking at improving your overall health in general. This takes effort and you are doing it.

Rice doesnt sit well with me at all, and I definitely manage my fruit. This works for me, but we are all so different.

I recommend lots of veggies and of course your protein.

Good luck
Posted by: Life Dancer, Friday, March 29, 2013, 10:35am; Reply: 30
Good Morning and Happy Friday!

I don't have a lot of time, but I just wanted to give everyone an update.  Since I started this about 2 weeks ago, stopped eating corn & potatoes last week, and dairy/soy this week, here's I have experienced. (I had all ready quit gluten 2 weeks prior to finding this diet, but it wasn't helping).  Rice has been the only grain I have been eating and have been doing well with it.  Also, a few days ago, I started eating more red meat and veggies.  

Gas and Bloating - gone
Joint Aches & Pains upon rising - gone
Only Sleeping 4 hours and then waking up awake - gone
Fat layer Around Middle, Adomin & Hips - gone (this one amazes me the most about how the cellulite bumps under the skin are disappearing so quickly like it is melting!)

Thank you too All for your support.  That's what gave me the strength to avoid more foods and eat more meat - a total counter intuitive for me.  I am starting to feel energy like I have never before and I am hoping this is going to help the mental spaciness I have been having for a while.  I am very optimistic that my life now isn't going to have to drag on until the end and that I found the primary reason why I wasn't feeling well.  Again, I cannot say, "Thank You" enough  :D
Posted by: Drea, Friday, March 29, 2013, 12:24pm; Reply: 31
(clap)
Posted by: SquarePeg, Friday, March 29, 2013, 2:26pm; Reply: 32
That's wonderful, LD!  Thanks for the update.
Posted by: Life Dancer, Friday, March 29, 2013, 3:17pm; Reply: 33
Well, after I put my glassed on this morning, I exaggerated on the fat melting off a little bit, lol ;D  It's not all gone, but there is a noticeable reduction of it.  I'm just excited to see some improvement in my condition.
Posted by: Lola, Friday, March 29, 2013, 6:20pm; Reply: 34
keep up the spirit!
you are doing great!(clap)
Posted by: ruthiegirl, Friday, March 29, 2013, 6:54pm; Reply: 35
What a wonderful update!

If "all" your fat was gone in only 2 weeks, you couldn't have had much to begin with. Most people see improvements, but find that it takes a much longer time for *everything* to be perfect. Don't be surprised if the changes start to slow down. As long as you're moving in the right direction, it's all good.
Posted by: Lola, Friday, March 29, 2013, 7:03pm; Reply: 36
to think Dr D wrote about this fact back in the days.......

http://seattletimes.com/html/health/2020655268_intestinesweightxml.html?syndication=rss&buffer_share=d2163&utm_source=buffer
Intestinal bacteria may be key to weight loss, studies say

Posted by: Victoria, Friday, March 29, 2013, 7:15pm; Reply: 37
You are doing great, Life Dancer!!  :D  Keep up the good work and I think you're going to be very pleased with the direction your life and health are going.
Posted by: Possum, Saturday, March 30, 2013, 3:03am; Reply: 38
Great to read your update!! Well done!!
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