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Posted by: Loops, Wednesday, March 20, 2013, 2:11pm
hi -
some of you here know that I have been strugging with weight issues following having my first child.  Well after going backwards and forwards with being compliant with BTD/swami I have decided to really try to be 100% with my foods for at least a month, no excuses.  That means no small amounts of sugar (in chocolate for instance), no ketchup, mayo unless it is homemade - basically fully compliant.

Anybody want to join me?  Or is there a thread for this already going?  I am really going for 100% to see if I can get some results.
Posted by: ruthiegirl, Wednesday, March 20, 2013, 2:18pm; Reply: 1
Good luck!

I pretty much do that all the time, although with Passover coming up I have a few planned treats. I can't find "kosher for Passover" versions of all my compliant foods, so I do eat things such as homemade almond milk and charoset made with apples and honey. This is the one week a year when I intentionally eat a few things that are "avoids" on my SWAMI, though still in wholesome versions.
Posted by: Xuxuzinha, Wednesday, March 20, 2013, 2:23pm; Reply: 2
Oh my God, I can't even go through the "wash out" phase....

I'll always get weak at one point and gorge on avoids... So I have to start over again, and I'm thinking of giving up.

I really want to follow that diet, but it makes me feel like I'm actually on a diet, which I don't want to be...
Explorer compliant cakes are just not good.
Posted by: PCUK-Positive, Wednesday, March 20, 2013, 2:31pm; Reply: 3
be prepared for a week or tow of cravings but after that it gets so much better.

Be strong. and take some herbs and supplements to help.

keep a diary too oxo
Posted by: 2degreespisces, Wednesday, March 20, 2013, 2:53pm; Reply: 4
Loops, first of all: goood luck! I'm sure you'll feel and see the benefits of being 100% compliant; I know I do.

I've started out being 100% compliant, due to health issues. Then, after about one year, I decided to be a little more lenient and went down to about 90% compliance.
As I immediately noticed that I wasn't feeling and doing as well, I went back to 100% compliance.

So that's what I've been doing for several years now. It's very rare that I "stray". It happens, of course, but very very sporadically.

I hope you'll see the results you want after your one month project :-)
And compliance actually becomes easier over time, as you get used to the list of what you can eat.
Posted by: Victoria, Wednesday, March 20, 2013, 3:25pm; Reply: 5
Way to go, Loops!  (hehe)

Just know that I'm on your 100% compliancy team.  That's what it takes for me to feel good - I have struggled with so many mysterious and chronic health problems throughout my life.  Anything short of full compliance and my body is not happy.  I've been sticking with 100% for many years, although a few times a year if I'm traveling or eating at a friend's house, I'll eat some black dots.  This is literally 2 or 3 times a year.

Once you form the habit, it's easier being compliant than not, because the momentum begins to carry you as you feel better and happier and stronger!(smile)
Posted by: BluesSinger, Wednesday, March 20, 2013, 3:25pm; Reply: 6
I'm ready to join in!
Posted by: ruthiegirl, Wednesday, March 20, 2013, 6:34pm; Reply: 7
Quoted from Xuxuzinha
Oh my God, I can't even go through the "wash out" phase....

I'll always get weak at one point and gorge on avoids... So I have to start over again, and I'm thinking of giving up.

I really want to follow that diet, but it makes me feel like I'm actually on a diet, which I don't want to be...
Explorer compliant cakes are just not good.


Do you have SWAMI or are you following the Explorer diet in the  book?

If you're having  REALLY tough time sticking to the diet 100%, my guess is that you're not on quite the right diet. The "right diet" feels satisfying, not depriving. If you have a SWAMI, double-check all the data you inputted- see if there are any mistakes, mis-measurements, etc. If you're following the Explorer diet from the book, it may be time to invest in a SWAMI.

If that's not an option right now, then you still need to make some changes. Double-check your measurements and the strength tests- see if maybe you'd do better on the Warrior or Teacher diet. Another option is to switch from GTD to BTD and follow the A diet. Yet a third option is to stick with the Explorer diet, but eat the "Black dot" foods more liberally. Some "black dot" foods are OK for some individuals, and all are far better than the outright avoids!
Posted by: Loops, Wednesday, March 20, 2013, 10:54pm; Reply: 8
thanks everybody!  I've been really good today and yesterday - hasn't been so hard.  I expect my cheese cravings to kick in tomorrow as they usually do around day 3 off dairy - I am really intolerant to the stuff.  Great bluesinger to have a buddy on this - we can do it!
Posted by: Lola, Wednesday, March 20, 2013, 11:03pm; Reply: 9
:)
Posted by: ABJoe, Wednesday, March 20, 2013, 11:53pm; Reply: 10
Keep focusing on the beneficial foods, Loops.  I try to be 100% beneficial foods only, but sometimes utilize some neutral foods.  I have a very diverse food list, so this isn't real hard, but my DD's food lists (and tastes) are very limited - so she has to include neutral foods to be able to eat anything...
Posted by: ABJoe, Thursday, March 21, 2013, 12:21am; Reply: 11
Quoted from Xuxuzinha
...I can't even go through the "wash out" phase....

I'll always get weak at one point and gorge on avoids... So I have to start over again, and I'm thinking of giving up.

I really want to follow that diet, but it makes me feel like I'm actually on a diet, which I don't want to be...
Explorer compliant cakes are just not good.

My Explorer DD feels your pain...  Sweets of all types really bother her, but she is bothered less if she keeps mostly compliant.  

My only suggestion is to continue to do the best you can and persevere.  Any meal that has 1 beneficial food rather than an avoid that you could have chosen is better for you...  
Posted by: Loops, Thursday, March 21, 2013, 4:26pm; Reply: 12
yes I have to eat some neutrals - I live in Chile and it is hard to find all beneficials.  Depending on which list I go by that is - via BTD I can find most beneficials but my Swami puts a lot of those into neutral territory and the diamonds are mostly unfindable here!  It doesn't matter to me though - I try my best. I can still do the diamond vegetables and the superfood meats and well the fruits are neutral via Swami and beneficial via BTD so that is fine by me.

So I am a bit bloated which usually happens coming off dairy and yesterday had stomach ache and my back was aching.  But I feel like I am on the right track - hopefully will start to feel better soon.  Otherwise I feel fine.  Sleep is off though - again, messing with dairy screws up my sleep I am THAT sensitive to casein.  Onwards!  Breakfast was fried blanquillo (rice flour and egg and olive oil to fry) with a banana, and lunch is steak with broccoli and some walnuts, and pineapple juice.  Onwards!
Posted by: Xuxuzinha, Friday, March 22, 2013, 2:13pm; Reply: 13
Quoted from ruthiegirl


Do you have SWAMI or are you following the Explorer diet in the  book?

If you're having  REALLY tough time sticking to the diet 100%, my guess is that you're not on quite the right diet. The "right diet" feels satisfying, not depriving. If you have a SWAMI, double-check all the data you inputted- see if there are any mistakes, mis-measurements, etc. If you're following the Explorer diet from the book, it may be time to invest in a SWAMI.

If that's not an option right now, then you still need to make some changes. Double-check your measurements and the strength tests- see if maybe you'd do better on the Warrior or Teacher diet. Another option is to switch from GTD to BTD and follow the A diet. Yet a third option is to stick with the Explorer diet, but eat the "Black dot" foods more liberally. Some "black dot" foods are OK for some individuals, and all are far better than the outright avoids!



Hey Ruthiegirl, as always we can count on you :-)

I am already using swami and I think the Explorer diet is way better than the BTD...
Less than sugar, what I miss the most is wheat...

I'm scared that if I rerun my swami, it's gonna make avoid different types of food I really like!
Posted by: Xuxuzinha, Friday, March 22, 2013, 2:14pm; Reply: 14
Quoted from ABJoe

My Explorer DD feels your pain...  Sweets of all types really bother her, but she is bothered less if she keeps mostly compliant.


Oh yes, I have such a sweet tooth!!! I don't mind using honey instead of sugar, but cakes without wheat or event spelt flour are just not as great...
Same for bread...
Posted by: ABJoe, Friday, March 22, 2013, 4:25pm; Reply: 15
Quoted from Xuxuzinha
Oh yes, I have such a sweet tooth!!! I don't mind using honey instead of sugar, but cakes without wheat or event spelt flour are just not as great...
Same for bread...

I agree that the texture of a rice flour cake is not quite as smooth as a wheat or spelt cake, but DD made a chocolate cake that was a good alternative.

Chocolate Cake

Ingredients:
2 c. rice flour
3/4 c. cocoa powder
2 1/3 t. baking soda
2/3 t. cream of tartar
1 c. honey / maple syrup / agave syrup
1/2 c. olive oil
2 eggs
1/2 c. plain yogurt

Directions:
Preheat oven (350 F) and grease pan(s).
Sift together dry ingredients in medium mixing bowl.
Mix wet ingredients in another bowl.
Make well in center of dry ingredients, add wet ingredients in batches and mix well.  Beat by hand until well mixed or use an electric mixer on medium speed for 3 minutes.
Pour thin batter into greased 13x9x2 inch baking pan or two smaller pans.
Bake at 350F for 30 to 40 minutes, or until toothpick inserted in center of cake comes out clean.
Cool for 10 minutes and remove from pan(s) to complete cooling on wire rack.
(We left it to cool in the baking dish, decorated the top and served from the pan.)
Decorate as desired.

Posted by: Loops, Sunday, March 24, 2013, 1:56pm; Reply: 16
Ok day 5 here.  Had slip up the other day with some vegetable crisps that had some yucca in them and also sunflower oil that I didn't notice (duh).  I thought they were in palm oil which isn't so bad.  Apart from that I have been 100% with mostly beneficials, apart from some dried plums which are bene on BTD but avoid on Swami.

Weight came down a pound, then went back up this morning, so no loss so far but it is very early days.  Still managing to abstain from dark chocolate (has bit of sugar so is avoid).  I usually gain coming off dairy at first before I lose.  I am also a bit ill with a cold and haven't been getting to the swimming pool as a result - feel like I need to do some exercise but also need to get well again.
Posted by: KimonoKat, Sunday, March 24, 2013, 7:43pm; Reply: 17
Here are my suggestions.

If you want to kick start your weight loss Loops, tell us about your exercise routine.  What are you doing, how long a period of time and how often?  O's need to get their heart rate up and keep it up for a period of time.

Eat only beneficials for one week.  Nothing else.  Increase your water intake. Go grain free for that week, and make your fruit servings very, very small, too.

See what happens.  Sharing with the best of intentions.


Posted by: Loops, Sunday, March 24, 2013, 8:30pm; Reply: 18
no I am not restricting fruit - the whole point of this experiment is to eat ad lib from the beneficials - I don't want to skew any results by doing low carb etc.  Plus I have done low carb before and in the long run it just didn't make me feel good - the way you lose is the way you maintain I have learnt.  Also, if you read through the FAQ for BTD, it is clearly stated that portion sizes are a guideline ONLY - that it is more important to eat from beneficial lists and avoid avoids.  Having said that I don't stuff myself with anything - but eat what I think my body wants at the time from the lists.

On the BTD there are no beneficial grains for me - I can't buy ezekiel bread here anyway.  Rice I am trying to avoid - that is the only neutral.

Exercise-wise I am swimming and walking - yes, I am aware type Os are supposed to do intense exercise but I have a 6 month old boy that needs looking after which takes up a lot of my time.  I will be taking up tennis again soon - believe me, that is no walk in the part - I have a trainer who makes me run non-stop.  

Thanks for the ideas though...
Posted by: KimonoKat, Sunday, March 24, 2013, 9:45pm; Reply: 19
Quoted from Loops
no I am not restricting fruit - the whole point of this experiment is to eat ad lib from the beneficials - I don't want to skew any results by doing low carb etc.  Plus I have done low carb before and in the long run it just didn't make me feel good - the way you lose is the way you maintain I have learnt.  Also, if you read through the FAQ for BTD, it is clearly stated that portion sizes are a guideline ONLY - that it is more important to eat from beneficial lists and avoid avoids.  Having said that I don't stuff myself with anything - but eat what I think my body wants at the time from the lists.

On the BTD there are no beneficial grains for me - I can't buy ezekiel bread here anyway.  Rice I am trying to avoid - that is the only neutral.

Exercise-wise I am swimming and walking - yes, I am aware type Os are supposed to do intense exercise but I have a 6 month old boy that needs looking after which takes up a lot of my time.  I will be taking up tennis again soon - believe me, that is no walk in the part - I have a trainer who makes me run non-stop.  

Thanks for the ideas though...


Only you know what's best for you.

Sharing with the best of intentions.

Posted by: Loops, Monday, March 25, 2013, 11:08am; Reply: 20
:)
Posted by: Loops, Monday, March 25, 2013, 11:12am; Reply: 21
Day 6.  Still no weight loss - scale stuck at 70kg still.  As I am 5 foot 6 female this is too much for me.  I feel I should probably weigh between 60 and 65kg.  I guess I was hoping for a slight change after eating all beneficials.  It is not as if I am coming off eating loads of bad lectins-avoids for years either.  I was doing Swami during my whole pregnancy with the addition of some chocolate and a few avoids here and there like a bit of ketchup or mayo.  Sorry to moan on and on!  I just really want this to work - otherwise I have to go back to low carb high fat and I just can't do that without dairy long term.  And as I am intolerant to dairy I don't want to do that!  So I am hoping this works.  Even just a slight change on the scale or on my Omron fat monitor would be great and encouraging!
Posted by: Loops, Monday, March 25, 2013, 11:13am; Reply: 22
well that is not quite true - I was trying to go back to low carb for a few days at a time and was eating pork and dairy...but not much and not for long.
Posted by: Drea, Monday, March 25, 2013, 2:27pm; Reply: 23
Stress and worry are also not conducive to weight loss, at least that's true for me... it might not be what you are eating so much as how much of it. I know when I over eat on the suggested portion sizes, I start gaining. My 2 cents.
Posted by: Adam, Monday, March 25, 2013, 4:01pm; Reply: 24
It's so hard to be compliant for many reasons.  I cheat primarily due to boredom, being talked into going out, watching cooking/travel shows, or even looking at pretty pictures in cookbooks.  Will power, mind over matter, having a goal, and having faith in Dr. D is what works for me.
Posted by: Mother, Monday, March 25, 2013, 4:26pm; Reply: 25
Fasting is working wonders for me, on lots of fronts. I recently started it, never eating after 6 pm, skipping breakfast 1st and now going until 12:30 or 1. I'm chosing a  5- 6 hour window to eat so I'm having my normal lunch and dinner, and a small snack if need be in between. I NEVER could go more than 2 hours without eating but this has been great. Breakfast always made me hungry and I'm finding that skipping it is wonderful! I eat a salad with protein for lunch and protein with veggies for dinner. I feel far more balanced. The 1st day I had a tsp olive oil at 10:30 and the next two days I swapped the oil for a tsp butter and today I don't need either. I lost 3#'s in 3 days and I don't need to lose weight but it's all been in my stomach so I'm ok with that as that is always the last place to go.

Good Luck
Posted by: Loops, Monday, March 25, 2013, 4:53pm; Reply: 26
thanks for the posts everybody.  I have a strange situation in that my excess fat is all in my belly - I have slim legs and normal everywhere else.  I might try to increase the meat and less fruit....just for now.  Don't want to tweak too much though...
Posted by: KimonoKat, Monday, March 25, 2013, 5:11pm; Reply: 27
I'm doing something similar to mother.  I eat a big breakfast and a big lunch. No late night meals anymore. I get fruit for snacks 1-2x a day and nuts, only what I can hold in my hand.  So I eat around 8:30 am and also around 2 PM.  If I'm really hungry before bed, I have a hard boiled egg.  Trying to keep my digestive load very light to nothing when I hit the hay.

I've said goodbye to chocolate bars for now.  My only vice that I am trying to give up at the moment is agave sweetened lemonade.  Juice of two lemons in gerolsteinter with agave.  Hits the spot and doesn't make my blood sugar crash.  Mr. KK and I are also power walking in the mornings every day, at least two miles.  We have a stretch routine and then we try to get out the door before 7 AM. Some days, we tackle the hills.  We are finding it is really hard getting back into shape.

My advice, be kind to yourself and don't expect immediate weight loss.  That doesn't happen for everyone, and that adds another stress.  Hormones can be out of wack, and people oftentimes forget that stress is a strong contributing factor in how you lose/gain weight.  So, take my advice and only weight yourself once a week.  Any more than that can drive you batty.

Sharing with the best of intentions.
Posted by: Amazone I., Monday, March 25, 2013, 6:04pm; Reply: 28
I'm no more persuated about this thema... I merely observed while having too less of
foods your body automatically shrinks its calorie intake but also adapts at the same time to fasting times...and so will store all it gets...mostly into fatcells ! ;D ;D(scared)(shhh)(funny)(evil)(evil) (best articles  Ive read while studying MAP ;) ) :X
Posted by: Mother, Monday, March 25, 2013, 10:17pm; Reply: 29
Amazone,
I'm not eating less, I'm just not eating all day long so I'm eating in a much shorter window.. Breakfast of any kind makes me VERY unbalanced and that cannot be healthy. I get very hungry shortly after any food in the morning and I know many people that have that problem. I have no weight problems and I eat the same amount of food and it is all nutrient dense, that has to count for something. I don't by any means starve myself, I enjoy food too much. I just don't think I need a ton of it anymore. My blood sugar is great this way, I don't need to be spiking insulin and blood sugar for 12 hours
Posted by: Loops, Thursday, March 28, 2013, 9:24pm; Reply: 30
ok - I seem to be veering back in the direction of my Swami instead of BTD.  I just really feel like eating some bean salad (pinto beans are a superfood for me), plus I found some diamond fruits (prickly pears)...and....I tested out eating parmesan cheese again.

Guess what?  I have NO reaction to parmesan cheese!  No itchy eczema, no bloating -nothing - just feeling good.  This is so weird - I could have sworn I reacted to it before.

So back to 100% Swami for me for the time being.
Posted by: Amazone I., Saturday, March 30, 2013, 10:01am; Reply: 31
I observed merely the 0's seem to do ok having their meals only up from about 12.00 o'ckock....... ;) ;D
Posted by: Loops, Saturday, March 30, 2013, 4:24pm; Reply: 32
Hmmm, well after only a couple of days on Swami ALL beneficials and diamonds and not even neutrals, including beans and rice, my jeans suddenly feel looser.  I was surprised to find the parmesan didn't cause any bloating, and neither did the beans.  I had been doing Swami before, but was eating a lot of neutrals.  

However, I am not weighing myself for awhile.  I made a deal I would really be compliant for a whole month at least before jumping on the scales.

I find that beans are keeping me very full for a long time as well.
Posted by: Loops, Saturday, March 30, 2013, 4:26pm; Reply: 33
BTW I am not restricting calories.  I found out a long time ago that that just leads to my body revolting in the long term.  I eat everything to appetite. If I find I overeat - like yesterday I felt like that with the beans...I find my body compensates by lack of hunger for a long time afterwards.  These days I no longer do battle with my body in this way.
Posted by: Loops, Saturday, March 30, 2013, 4:28pm; Reply: 34
Any other type Os get as many beans and rice products as me as beneficials??  I seem to have both brown and white rice, rice flour and many different beans as benes.
Posted by: ABJoe, Saturday, March 30, 2013, 4:50pm; Reply: 35
Quoted from Loops
BTW I am not restricting calories.  I found out a long time ago that that just leads to my body revolting in the long term.  I eat everything to appetite. If I find I overeat - like yesterday I felt like that with the beans...I find my body compensates by lack of hunger for a long time afterwards.  These days I no longer do battle with my body in this way.

I can never restrict calories without getting headaches, but like you, if I eat a little too much, the body makes up for it by eating less later...

I also eat mostly beneficial foods because my body needs these to continue the healing it is doing.  Neutral foods don't provide enough of the "medicinal" that I need...
Posted by: BluesSinger, Sunday, March 31, 2013, 3:43am; Reply: 36
Ok.. finally I can chime in here.  I've had 5 days of abstinence from eating junk and sugar and wheat and cheese and dairy and all things bad.  I have 3 moderate meals per day with possibly one snack if I need it.

I am not weighing myself.  The important thing for me is to surrender my eating addition to a Higher Power i.e. God.  Just having these 5 days of clean good healthy eating has been a miracle.

I am eating according to my Swami and I am not getting crazed about anything because that causes my old 'dieting' mentality to sneak back in.  I have done all the diets and starvation routines known to man at this point, lost and gained and lost and gained and over the years this disease has gotten worse and worse so that I'm almost 100lbs overweight.  I've done all the crazed thinking around food since I was a young girl and it's so good to be free.  No I am not thin and no I am not going to get insane about that.  What I have been doing is getting sane and falling in Love with the energy of God that I feel in my heart.  Life is so short.. and one day I will die and I want to be ready to go and possibly meet my maker and have had done a great job here on Earth doing what I came to do and be finished with it.  When I am caught up in the CRAZY INSANE CONSTANT thinking about food and weight and how I look and what to eat and not eat... and blah blah blah I am not present in the day.  I'm not giving all I can to my work in this world.  

The OA program has been a huge miracle for me... a huge light in the constant darkness of my addiction.

Besides eating according to my Swami, being about 98% compliant and NOT worrying about anything else in regards to food, I have been exercising daily and doing the Saunas.  Getting enough sleep and discussing my food addiction and the healing process with a sponsor and my husband.  Being able to talk to him has been huge.  I also journal and I am working the 12 steps of the program which is very important.  Plus going to online meetings, and listening to online speakers who have recovery who were also just like me at one point - OBSESSED ABOUT FOOD - and overweight to the point of almost dieing.  When I listen to their stories I cry because I feel like they are telling my story.

An eating plan without a 'personal'  Spiritual foundation is bound to fail with a Compulsive Overeater.  If not right away, eventually.

I found this cookbook - Gluten Free Almond Flour Cookbook - http://www.amazon.com/Gluten-Free-Almond-Flour-Cookbook/dp/158761345X - and I made the cake on the cover... it's beyond fabulous and for me had all approved Swami food items in it.  This proved to me there is NO need what-so-ever to eat crappy desserts!    

I feel peaceful and stable and dedicated to my Spiritual and physical recovery.  I'm NEVER out of the woods however, because I can't do this alone.  That has been proven after 50 years of horrible shame, guilt and struggling with food.  

Thanks for letting me share and I wish everyone here peace in their journey with food and their Souls.
Posted by: ruthiegirl, Sunday, March 31, 2013, 2:35pm; Reply: 37
BluesSinger and Loops- I'm glad you're both doing so well!!

I'm struggling a little bit with full compliance  because it's Passover. Besides not having beans or rice right now (due to Jewish law) I also couldn't find any agave or molasses with reliable passover certification, and I'm baking goodies for the kids. It's hard for me to bake stuff for them and not want to eat some of it myself, so I ended up having a little chocolate cake (made with sugar) and some banana muffins (made with honey.) The muffins would have been 100% compliant if I'd had agave available.

But Passover is only one week a year and I'm still eating pretty clean. I'm eating a lot of diamonds and beneficials and lots of veggies, and I've  been getting exercise almost daily.
Posted by: kitari, Sunday, March 31, 2013, 9:53pm; Reply: 38
Quoted from Loops
Any other type Os get as many beans and rice products as me as beneficials??  I seem to have both brown and white rice, rice flour and many different beans as benes.


I'm an O who does very well on brown rice products, beans not so much.

Posted by: Taxman, Sunday, March 31, 2013, 9:57pm; Reply: 39
Excuse my ignorance but when you all say 'compliance', does that mean no neutrals?  I can get the avoid thing but not eating from the neutral list seems kind of scary!

:o
Posted by: ruthiegirl, Sunday, March 31, 2013, 10:41pm; Reply: 40
When I say "compliance" I include eating neutrals. As dedicated as I am to healthy eating, sometimes "avoids" slip in- especially since I'm not supposed to have honey or sugar, but both are items I keep in the house for the kids and often bake with. I can't always stop myself from tasting batter or small amounts of the finished product. I'm much more careful about avoiding wheat and potatoes because I have much more obvious reactions to them. Sugar and honey make me hungrier (which isn't a problem if I eat more), lead to weight gain if I keep it up, and also lead to mild GI discomfort if I do it too many days in a row (it feeds bad bacteria, and I have to eat compliantly for a few days to get things back to normal.) But nothing bad happens from "one spoonful" of sugar or honey, so it's harder for me to be consistent with it.

I don't think I could manage to feed my whole family a varied diet on a budget if I didn't regularly include neutrals in our diets. I try to include beneficials daily, and I aim for as many as possible, but neutrals are a part of my diet- especially vegetables, because I eat so many of them each day, but also things like herbal tea. I minimize the neutral proteins because I eat relatively few each week, and the ones that are neutral for me are "avoids" for other family members, while it just works out that the compliant meats, fishes, and poultry products are my bennies.

I do have some days where I'm eating 90% beneficial and only 10% neutral, but that's not every day, and I'd never aim for a higher ratio than that.
Posted by: Victoria, Monday, April 1, 2013, 12:02am; Reply: 41
Dr. D'Adamo -

"What is compliance?
• If you are recovering from an illness or desire weight loss, then 80%-100% of your food choices should be highly beneficial.
• If you are a healthy individual over the age of 55, 80% of foods should be beneficial.
• If you are under 55 and healthy, 70% or more of your food choices should beneficial.
• The remainder of your food choices should be neutral. Avoids should not be eaten."
Posted by: Taxman, Monday, April 1, 2013, 12:46am; Reply: 42
:D
Posted by: Adam, Monday, April 1, 2013, 2:50pm; Reply: 43
Hang in there BluesSinger...100% on SWAMI is definitely a spiritual experience.  I always feel more in tune with my spiritual side after long-term compliance.  And, the physical health benefits are great as well.  It's just the "putting aside my stubbornness" and "accepting doctor's orders" (Dr. D, that is) is the most difficult thing with me.
Posted by: JillP, Monday, April 1, 2013, 3:03pm; Reply: 44
Loops, my 100% compliance starts today, April 1.  As Dr D recommends I will do as much from Beneficials (80% or more), only adding in Neutrals when necessary.  Avoids are OFF the list.  Weigh in was this morning.  

It is finally warm enough to ride my bike so I can add that to my routine  8)

I follow my Warrior Swami.  

Thanks for sharing your inspiration with us  :)
Posted by: BluesSinger, Monday, April 1, 2013, 3:26pm; Reply: 45
Quoted from Victoria
Dr. D'Adamo -

"What is compliance?
• If you are recovering from an illness or desire weight loss, then 80%-100% of your food choices should be highly beneficial.
• If you are a healthy individual over the age of 55, 80% of foods should be beneficial.
• If you are under 55 and healthy, 70% or more of your food choices should beneficial.
• The remainder of your food choices should be neutral. Avoids should not be eaten."


Being an overeater and working to get spiritual recovery and keep abstinence, these rules are too much for me to try and follow at this time.

I have to work on just having 3 meals per day with one snack if needed and the only 'obsession' i'm going to allow myself is that Swami is my eating plan... which means for me using the two columns... Beneficial and Neutral to pull my foods from with occasional black dots if in a situation that can't be helped.

I feel that moving away from all AVOIDS at this stage in my journey is a huge accomplishment and I expect good physical healing  progress although it may take a little longer.    The most important thing for me presently is Spiritual progress and I am so glad that I have Swami to make as my 'food plan,' as in the 12 step program of OA you need a food plan.  

Compulsive Overeaters tend to be compulsively obsessed about trying to be PERFECT when they adopt a food plan and beat themselves up if they don't follow the rules perfectly and then say screw it and overeat!  So too many rules for me at this stage could thwart my progress.  

In the Health Series books, at the end of each Blood Type section, it gives a weekly progress suggestion on what to let go of first and then the next week you move on to removing another bad thing, etc. etc.  I like that... One step at a time to let your body and mind adapt to the plan.
Posted by: Loops, Monday, April 1, 2013, 4:08pm; Reply: 46
I assume then that with regards to Swami compliance is eating superfoods, not just diamonds!
Posted by: Loops, Monday, April 1, 2013, 4:09pm; Reply: 47
Good job Blues singer!
Posted by: Averno, Monday, April 1, 2013, 4:09pm; Reply: 48
@ BluesSinger:

...I am eating according to my Swami and I am not getting crazed about anything because that causes my old 'dieting' mentality to sneak back in.  I have done all the diets and starvation routines known to man at this point, lost and gained and lost and gained and over the years this disease has gotten worse and worse so that I'm almost 100lbs overweight.  I've done all the crazed thinking around food since I was a young girl and it's so good to be free.  No I am not thin and no I am not going to get insane about that.  What I have been doing is getting sane and falling in Love with the energy of God that I feel in my heart.  Life is so short.. and one day I will die and I want to be ready to go and possibly meet my maker and have had done a great job here on Earth doing what I came to do and be finished with it.  When I am caught up in the CRAZY INSANE CONSTANT thinking about food and weight and how I look and what to eat and not eat... and blah blah blah I am not present in the day.  I'm not giving all I can to my work in this world...  



For many of us, getting on the right track was a victory of the spirit. If I may quote myself from an earlier post:

"I was convinced of the validity of ER4YT several years before applying it in earnest. I was in denial about the severity of my health issues, and my conduct in causing them. Intellectually I knew. Emotionally I knew. But spiritually I was hoping for a miracle. It was a revelation to realize the victim, the persecutor, and the rescuer were all... ME.  That I was obligated to honor the reconcilliation between my physical self and my spiritual self came as an epiphany".

I believe that no matter where on the spectrum one falls between this awakening and purely rational processes, success depends a great deal upon this calling.

Posted by: ABJoe, Monday, April 1, 2013, 4:37pm; Reply: 49
Quoted from Loops
I assume then that with regards to Swami compliance is eating superfoods, not just diamonds!

Correct!  Anything from the Superfood column, whether it has a Diamond or not.
Posted by: Victoria, Monday, April 1, 2013, 7:07pm; Reply: 50
Quoted from BluesSinger

Compulsive Overeaters tend to be compulsively obsessed about trying to be PERFECT when they adopt a food plan and beat themselves up if they don't follow the rules perfectly and then say screw it and overeat!  So too many rules for me at this stage could thwart my progress.  


What you said in your very insightful post makes sense.  I remember hearing a talk by Dr. Bernie Siegel where he was recommending that people set their short-term goals a little lower than they think they can attain.  That way when they find that they can exceed them, their self-esteem is boosted and they can celebrate a victory.

He said that people in crisis tend to set unrealistic goals for themselves and set themselves up for self-loathing when they fail to attain 100% perfection.  These words meant a lot to me at the time, and I support you setting goals that will help you grow and succeed.
Posted by: Debra, Monday, April 1, 2013, 9:47pm; Reply: 51
Interesting thread. Learnin' a lot (physical and emotional/spiritual). How you gettin' on now, Loops?  If you don't mind me asking. Just ignore if you do!  ;)
Posted by: Loops, Monday, April 1, 2013, 9:58pm; Reply: 52
I'm doing ok.  It is a bit of a challenge doing all superfoods here in Chile but luckily most of the diamond veggies I can get.  I am feeling quite tired though to be honest - I wonder why?  This is the first time I have been doing it this compliant.
Posted by: Debra, Monday, April 1, 2013, 11:03pm; Reply: 53
Hmmmm, sorry to hear that. I wonder why too, unless tiredness is part of detox? Are you finding you have to sleep a lot? that's a detox symptom for me. Other than that, tiredness is usually eating the wrong foods for me. the only other thing i can think of is portion sizes too big? Altho, like you say, you shouldn't have to worry too much if it's highly compliant. Have you weighed yourself? Are you losing weight on it?  ??)
Posted by: ABJoe, Monday, April 1, 2013, 11:10pm; Reply: 54
Quoted from Debra
I wonder why too, unless tiredness is part of detox? Are you finding you have to sleep a lot? that's a detox symptom for me. Other than that, tiredness is usually eating the wrong foods for me. the only other thing i can think of is portion sizes too big? Altho, like you say, you shouldn't have to worry too much if it's highly compliant. Have you weighed yourself? Are you losing weight on it?  ??)

It takes a lot of energy to detox and heal.  Loops is also taking care of a young person, which also take a lot of energy, although not as much until he starts walking and running...

Portion sizes and frequency can be a factor, although usually it is too little if you're really tired.  You need to eat enough good calories to maintain the energy needs.
Posted by: Loops, Tuesday, April 2, 2013, 12:00pm; Reply: 55
well I eat to appetite.  I usually trust that - as sometimes I will even leave food on my plate if I have had enough.  I have had some gas from the beans - but maybe I didn't soak them enough lol.  I had loose stools this morning sorry tmi, but that might be the cheese or the beans.  However, my eczema hasn't flared up at all and that usually happens with any sort of dairy so that is positive.  I have had a bit of a scratchy throat though...could be anything, could be dairy who knows?

I like the diet though.  Especially being able to eat cheese again - I don't seem to feel wired from it like with other dairy in the past.  I used to get tremors in the mornings and horrible anxiety from the casein.  Maybe I will have a delayed reaction though.  If so I will cut it out again.  I like the idea of lentils and beans as superfoods - I always loved those foods all my life.  When I was vegan about the only positive thing was these huge bean and squash soups I used to make that I ate with loads of brown rice.  I lost loads of weight doing that, but then gained it all back due to starting to make my own bread (gargh gluten) - my point is not that veganism is great but that I can lose weight eating beans and rice.  Not sure how that would pan out though eating meat again.

Well I did weigh myself this morning as I was a bit worried I might be gaining like a trooper - I have lost a pound it seems.  So that is good.
Posted by: Loops, Tuesday, April 2, 2013, 12:13pm; Reply: 56
I am also starting back on tennis training tomorrow for the first time in over a year - should be interesting.  At least this time my glycogen stores will be full instead of the horrible lack of energy on low carb that NEVER got better with time for me.  At one point I was eating less than 10g of carb a day and couldn't sprint for the life of me - and I was careful to eat loads and loads of fat!  I do seem to be an O that needs more carbs - maybe that is part of being an explorer rather than a hunter - I lost weight before on BTD after coming off a long low-carb stint by adding in fruit.
Posted by: Victoria, Tuesday, April 2, 2013, 5:50pm; Reply: 57
Quoted from Loops
I have had some gas from the beans - but maybe I didn't soak them enough lol.  I had loose stools this morning sorry tmi, but that might be the cheese or the beans.  

I like the idea of lentils and beans as superfoods - I always loved those foods all my life.  

It's recommended to soak beans overnight (8 to 12 hours) and then discard the soaking water, rinsing the beans well before adding fresh water.  Salt shouldn't be added until the beans are tender, otherwise the skins toughen and the beans can't become tender.

With small legumes, such as lentils, long soaking isn't necessary, although a couple of hours wouldn't hurt.  Just be sure to discard any soaking water and rinse well before cooking.

A piece of seaweed, such as kombu can be added to the beans.  Some people think it helps to tenderize the beans and reduce their tendency to cause gas.
Posted by: Debra, Tuesday, April 2, 2013, 10:03pm; Reply: 58
Interesting, Joe. Good luck with the tennis and everything, Loops!
Posted by: Amazone I., Wednesday, April 3, 2013, 3:16pm; Reply: 59
about compulsive overaters is something different to mention, not only perfectionisme might be one of the culprits but merely *the effects of recompense* might play a huge role.... :-/ :o...so far I always thought: take care where you're giving your agreements...and watch out for your conditioneerings as well as for educational belief-systems.....(dizzy)(eek)(goofy)(think) if not we'll be taken into our own traps......while changing our language...we can change our dif. systems and outlook will be equal to the newest results..... ;) ;D ;D
Posted by: ruthiegirl, Wednesday, April 3, 2013, 4:10pm; Reply: 60
Quoted from Victoria

It's recommended to soak beans overnight (8 to 12 hours) and then discard the soaking water, rinsing the beans well before adding fresh water.  Salt shouldn't be added until the beans are tender, otherwise the skins toughen and the beans can't become tender.

With small legumes, such as lentils, long soaking isn't necessary, although a couple of hours wouldn't hurt.  Just be sure to discard any soaking water and rinse well before cooking.

A piece of seaweed, such as kombu can be added to the beans.  Some people think it helps to tenderize the beans and reduce their tendency to cause gas.


I do all that, plus I drain and rinse the beans after cooking- I never eat the cooking water, as it makes me gassy.

Passover is now over, so I'm back to 100% compliance. No more oat matzah, almond milk, sugar, or honey. I'm tired today as I was up late last night putting the kitchen back to normal, and then I was up early this morning getting my kids off to school. I'll go to bed early tonight and be fully back on track tomorrow.
Posted by: BluesSinger, Wednesday, April 3, 2013, 5:22pm; Reply: 61
Ok so my compliant breakfast was as follows:

- Okra and Onions cooked in Rice Bran oil with Tumeric, Coriander, Cayenne and a bit of Agave
- Two Egg whites and One full egg
- 1/2 Sweet Potato
- 1 Piece of Teff Bread with Ghee and Blueberry Jelly
- Mango/Peach Juice

The Black Dot I had are Soy Milk in my tea and the Avoid was cornstarch in the Teff Bread I got from the store.

Today I'm making homemade almond milk so I can move away from the Soy Milk and I have to figure out how to make a good homemade teff bread in the coming weeks so I can move away from that cornstarch ingredient.  

Progress not perfection.  :)

Posted by: Victoria, Wednesday, April 3, 2013, 7:11pm; Reply: 62
You Go Girl!!  :D
Posted by: BluesSinger, Wednesday, April 3, 2013, 10:15pm; Reply: 63
Ok Compliant Lunch was as follows:

- Ground Buffalo fried with onion adding leftover Asparagus from last nights dinner, and the Okra mixture from breakfast.  Also as a final 'delicious' touch I added some tomato juice!
- Banana

I'm full!!!!

I also got my almond milk all made and ready to go so no more carrageenan!
Posted by: BluesSinger, Thursday, April 4, 2013, 2:39pm; Reply: 64
Compliant Dinner:

2 OZ Mozzarella Cheese
Pineapple
1 Bowl of homemade Butternut Squash soup (onions, olive oil, allspice, ginger, chicken broth, butternut squash, maple syrup)
Grape juice mixed with Seltzer Water

Shortly after dinner the joints I have some trouble with throughout my body began to ache awful!  Mozzarella Cheese is a Neutral for me.  Obviously right now I cannot have it.  I have no cheeses whats-so-ever listed in the Beneficial column only Ghee and Butter and I can only have 1-tsp 3 times per week of those.. so OBVIOUSLY I learned that ALL dairy is OUT for me until I finish the washout healing period.  

Getting this HONED down to the bone!!  Hopeing that within another week I'll start to feel better.. I've been horribly fatigued and it kicks in mid-morning.   My OA sponsors says I'm in detox (dah!) and will start to feel better in 2-3 weeks.  This is my 10th day of Abstinence and following Swami as my food plan.  Yay!
Posted by: Loops, Thursday, April 4, 2013, 3:01pm; Reply: 65
why not eat both yolks?  I never understand getting rid of the most nutritious part of the egg.....any particular reason why?  

On another subject - just thought I'd share my experiences - being a recovered bulimic for over 6 years now - I used to binge in response to restriction - then feel way too bloated and full and scared of the weight gain so hence the vomming.   Eventually I realized that the bingeeing was perfectly natural - the body wants calories and restricting food will always result eventually in a binge.  The trick was to let it happen, but to make sure I ate real, healthy food, and to stop restricting.  The bingeing stopped.....so did the vomiting.  The other trick was giving up wheat and gluten...

I know that some foods are very addictive - sugar, some junk foods, wheat for some people.  Bingeing for me was in response to semi starvation, and also low blood sugar.  Once I started eating proper whole foods and eating to appetite, my problem disappeared.  I didn't get fat either....
Posted by: BluesSinger, Thursday, April 4, 2013, 3:35pm; Reply: 66
Quoted from Loops
why not eat both yolks?  I never understand getting rid of the most nutritious part of the egg.....any particular reason why?  



I can only have 6 full eggs a week... so I'm saving up my full eggs for other days.  I love eggs so this is my way of stretching them out!  

other than that no reason.  I wish i could enjoy full eggs EVERYDAY but with a current restriction of only 6 a week..  :'(  I have to be creative!   ;)

After my 'wash out' period, I can have 8!  

and yes... diets and starvation lead to bingeing.  But for me "anything"  and I mean ANYTHING can lead to bingeing so I need a Spiritual foundation that goes hand in hand with my eating plan.  I have the perfect combo going.. My swami and OA!  The 12 step programs are miraculous!  and they are FREE!!!  
Posted by: Loops, Thursday, April 4, 2013, 4:18pm; Reply: 67
Hmmm, well I am not really doing the portions thing - I have eggs as neutral so don't really bother with them unless I need more variety.  I find having portions listed as just being more restriction so I am not doing that - maybe as a guideline they are good (like, don't make 90% of your diet a couple of foods to the exclusion of others).  Am I wrong here?  I don't know with Swami, but I know for the BTD Dr A specifically says the portions are a guideline and really it is far more important to eat the beneficials and avoid the avoids.  I think I am sticking with that.  But I suppose some people find it more helpful to have portions listed...
Posted by: Loops, Thursday, April 4, 2013, 4:23pm; Reply: 68
Lunch today was amazing - I made dal with fresh ginger and ate it with leftover turkey and peas, along with a glass of quince juice (interesting the weird few things I can actually find here that are on my green list).  I ate loads of it.  Tennis was really tough yesterday - first lesson back after 15 months and I am in bad shape despite doing swimming every day.  Training was INTENSE.  I ache all over today.  Body fat is down a percent though!

Keep up the good work Bluessinger!  And everybody else in on the challenge.  I will say yesterday I did have a few neutrals - I was SO hungry ALL DAY after tennis and got sick of eating prickly pears, plus the watermelon had gone off in the fridge so I ate some bananas and some figs.  Other than that it was beneficial meats and diamond veggies, and some rice.  I wish I could find pheasant and rabbit as those are diamonds lol.....

I really love fried hake - will make that tomorrow.  Another diamond I can actually find here (merluza).
Posted by: ABJoe, Thursday, April 4, 2013, 4:32pm; Reply: 69
Quoted from Loops
Hmmm, well I am not really doing the portions thing - I have eggs as neutral so don't really bother with them unless I need more variety.  I find having portions listed as just being more restriction so I am not doing that - maybe as a guideline they are good (like, don't make 90% of your diet a couple of foods to the exclusion of others).  Am I wrong here?  I don't know with Swami, but I know for the BTD Dr A specifically says the portions are a guideline and really it is far more important to eat the beneficials and avoid the avoids.  I think I am sticking with that.  But I suppose some people find it more helpful to have portions listed...

I think it is more important for those wondering why they aren't losing weight, etc. to have another parameter to look into...  I eat what the body needs at the time, but usually find that over the course of a month, it usually comes out about right - even though I may eat heavy for a week or so in one category...
Posted by: Loops, Thursday, April 4, 2013, 4:38pm; Reply: 70
I suppose - but surely if you are eating what your body wants (appetite) of the good foods, you shouldn't have to impose portion restriction (calorie restriction) in order to be at a good weight in the long term.
Posted by: ABJoe, Thursday, April 4, 2013, 4:59pm; Reply: 71
I think some people haven't learned to separate what the body needs from cravings and need the guidelines to get on the right track initially.  Once they get in the balance zone, it becomes easier...
Posted by: BluesSinger, Thursday, April 4, 2013, 5:01pm; Reply: 72
Ok breakfast today:  (I'm going to put an asterick from now on next to my benies and diamonds! That will help me keep track!  :)  

Green juice shake with the following:
*Green and *Purple Kale, Collards, *Dandelion, *Ginger, Celery, *Watermelon, *Banana, *Pumpkin, *Ground Flax Meal (grind it myself), *Hemp Seeds, *Pumpkin Butter, *Mango Juice, *Homemade Choc Almond Milk, Rice Protein Powder, Pea Protein Powder.  

I don't know how the Rice and Pea Protein Powders rate. Does anyone know?  Both Rice and Peas are Beneficial foods for me... so???  

Also I forgot to mention that every morning I have a glass of *Cherry/*Cranberry Juice with ARA6.

And mid morning I have a big ole' jug of lemon juice water.   ;D

So breakfast today consisted of:
15 Benies
2 Neutrals

Pretty darn good!  If I keep this up I'll soon be superhuman!!! HAAAAAAAAAAA   :P
Posted by: BluesSinger, Thursday, April 4, 2013, 5:10pm; Reply: 73
Quoted from ABJoe
I think some people haven't learned to separate what the body needs from cravings and need the guidelines to get on the right track initially.  Once they get in the balance zone, it becomes easier...


Yes I agree with this and I also don't want to be OBSESSIVE as that leads me to 'dieting' mentality which is a slippery slope for my Compulsive Overeating Disease.

I do not think that the eating guidelines were given to help someone 'control' their weight.  I feel they were given for overall health and helping us get all the nutrients we need from the food we are eating.  Not getting too much of this, not getting too much of that, etc., etc.  and to help us heal first and foremost.

I ask my Swami to COMPUTE BEST for my food amounts and values - this sets my Swami up to compute what's best for my healing based on the disease processes I list.  Since I am considered Obese at about 80 lbs overweight, Swami lowered some of my portions and increased portions of other foods steering me to foods that will help my body detox as the stored fat releases.  

I'm thinking of making a chart listing all the food groups of Swami and having a check box for portions so that each week I can make sure I'm staying fairly close to the guidelines.

The bottom line is that I WANT TO HEAL and have a good happy life with a good healthy body and so I am WILLING to do what it takes FINALLY.  

Quoted from Loops
I suppose - but surely if you are eating what your body wants (appetite) of the good foods, you shouldn't have to impose portion restriction (calorie restriction) in order to be at a good weight in the long term.


Compulsive overeaters don't have an appestat...  they have an appetite that after one bite esp. of the foods that cause them to want to eat more, they just keep eating and eating and eating and eating... I don't know what it's like to WANT good food.    
Posted by: BluesSinger, Thursday, April 4, 2013, 8:44pm; Reply: 74
Compliant Lunch was as follows:

- *Ground Buffalo fried with *Onion adding leftover *Asparagus from last nights dinner, and the *Okra mixture from breakfast both made with *Olive Oil and *Rice Bran Oil - spices *Tumeric, *Rosemary .  Also as a final 'delicious' touch I added some tomato juice!
- 1 piece *Teff Bread containing an avoid - Cornstarch
- *Ghee
- Dried Mangos

10 Benies
2 Neutrals
1 AVOID

I really am going to be cheating with my Ghee allowances!!!    ::)  I just can't help it!  I'm already over my limit for this week by two weeks!!!    :o  

Anyone else indulging in a Beneficial over the recommended serving size?!!!  
Posted by: Loops, Thursday, April 4, 2013, 9:01pm; Reply: 75
I think the recommended oil/fat portion sizes are too tiny to be honest....
Posted by: Victoria, Thursday, April 4, 2013, 10:02pm; Reply: 76
I eat more ghee than my SWAMI allows.  It is recommended for me to have 1 tsp, 5 times a week and I have 2 tsp every day, 7 days a week.  

My recommended portion and frequencies are important to me, but not as high a priority to me as sticking to my Diamonds and Superfoods and staying away from the Toxins and Black Dots.

When I first started the BTD, about 14 years ago, I found that dealing with portions/frequencies was not where I needed to put my attention.  It took me a few years before I felt that I was really grounded in following the food list, being very comfortable with shopping, food selection and preparation and watching for hidden avoids.  Once all that became integrated into my daily life, the next natural step was then to fine-tune the rest of the program.
Posted by: ruthiegirl, Thursday, April 4, 2013, 11:22pm; Reply: 77
Wow- this thread has been chatty today!

I look at the portions in two ways:

First, and most important, i look at proportions of one food to another. I see that I should be eating mostly veggies and only modest amounts of meat. My plate should NOT be half full of meat with only a tiny portion of greens.  When I first started on BTD, I focused on "making sure I ate enough veggies" rather than trying to cut anything out.

As a distant second, I look at the portions to figure out how much I should be eating to promote weight loss. I can maintain, or even gain weight on my SWAMI, even though I have over 25 pounds to lose. For me personally, portions DO matter. Health always comes first, and when I get a fibro-flare, I eat what I need to function, even though weight loss comes to a halt when that happens.

The first thing I look at with portions is the carby foods- SWAMI is right about how many added sweeteners and fruits I can handle a day. That goes beyond weight loss, but onto blood sugar stability and my energy level.

As i feel better, I try to focus more on portions. Completely restricting myself to SWAMI amounts of everything led to me feeling faint and weak after 2 days- it just wasn't enough food. So I don't restrict my fat intake, and I allow myself about 1.5  times the amount of protein recommended. It's not "unlimited" but it's more than SWAMI recommends.

I had way more protein today than i *should* have, but that's OK. I'm getting back on track after the holidays. And I haven't had red meat in a week and had probably 2-3 portions tonight with dinner- on top of the eggs for breakfast and turkey for lunch. Had I eaten the meat at lunchtime (before I bought it) I might have been satisfied enough not to need more protein at dinner. I need to eat beef more regularly- it's part of what I need to do to have energy and to lose weight (more satisfying food means I can eat less.)
Posted by: Loops, Friday, April 5, 2013, 11:06am; Reply: 78
yeah I think I am eating more protein than is recommended.  But to be honest, when it comes to protein, I really do trust my body.  There is no way I can overeat meat - I have a big loud stop button when I have had enough.  The rice - well, I think it depends.  If I am eating egg fried rice then it is easy to eat loads of it - but rice without added fat in a soup - not so much.

I am still not sure about the cheese - still no eczema but last night I found myself eating a LOT of it and I was a bit irritable and snappy with my husband afterwards..could be coincidence though....
Posted by: Loops, Wednesday, April 10, 2013, 12:42pm; Reply: 79
how is everybody doing?

I am having a problem with dairy again.  I will have to cut it once more I think...despite parmesan being a diamond.  I notice I have phlegm shortly after eating it and get a headache.  Also I felt very tired after eating lentils again the other day.  I think I will stick to fruit and sweet potatoes.  I also made fried fish and I think the yumminess of it (I use rice flour and egg for the batter and shallow fry it in olive oil) makes me overeat it.  I can cope with a little rice in soup, but the flour maybe it is causing too much of an inuslin release with me.  I am kind of bummed that superfoods and diamonds don't seem to be working for me.....I have to say, right now I feel that the BTD is better for me.  Lentils and rice are only neutrals on that.

Otherwise I am doing ok, although I haven't really dropped any weight???  I am trying not to weigh anyway.
Posted by: Adam, Wednesday, April 10, 2013, 12:48pm; Reply: 80
Dipping into cocoa powder (black dot) now and again, but other than that, 100% compliant.  
Posted by: Loops, Wednesday, April 10, 2013, 5:24pm; Reply: 81
well done!   I am pleased that my eczema is almost completely healed up now, and I haven't had to use my asthma inhaler for awhile.
Posted by: ruthiegirl, Wednesday, April 10, 2013, 8:53pm; Reply: 82
That's great loops!

If BTD is working better for you right now, then go with that. The point is to do what works for you, not to blindly follow SWAMI just because it's supposed to be the best.
Posted by: Loops, Thursday, April 11, 2013, 12:03am; Reply: 83
yes I think you are right.  I seem to do much better using fruit for my carbs for an example.  Maybe this will change in the future - if I start dropping weight like I did before I was pregnant then I could eventually try Swami again.  Some things seem to be true - like the diamond fruits and veggies seem to be very good for my digestion.  It is odd because I was never in doubt that I was an explorer and Swami confirmed that - but I have gatherer-type weight issues - have done all my life.  I am very muscular but put on fat weight very easily.  Maybe that will change the longer I am doing BTD.
Posted by: BluesSinger, Thursday, April 11, 2013, 3:46am; Reply: 84
Well I fell off the wagon on Sunday and I haven't been able to get back on.  Got lost in my eating addiction again.  All's I can do is start now and work my program.    :'(
Posted by: ABJoe, Thursday, April 11, 2013, 3:58pm; Reply: 85
It is just a little bump in the road of life...  You'll shake off this dust in no time because you recognize the issue and know what to do to correct it.  Great recognition!

Posted by: Mrs T O+, Thursday, April 11, 2013, 5:37pm; Reply: 86
No time to read the whole thread, but it sure sounds interesting what I did read.
My humorous way to be 100% compliant/bennies is to be fasting! Ha!

I'm glad you are doing better. If we could all get plenty of bennies at all times, it would be wonderful.
Posted by: BluesSinger, Thursday, April 11, 2013, 5:55pm; Reply: 87
Quoted from ABJoe
It is just a little bump in the road of life...  You'll shake off this dust in no time because you recognize the issue and know what to do to correct it.  Great recognition!



Thanks for the support AB....
Posted by: ruthiegirl, Thursday, April 11, 2013, 10:07pm; Reply: 88
So you fell off the wagon- jump back on! Or, if necessary, climb back on slowly, a little at a time if it's too much to "jump back on" all at once.
Posted by: Victoria, Friday, April 12, 2013, 1:24am; Reply: 89
Just keep your nose pointed in the right direction.  It's a journey, not a destination.  :D
Posted by: BluesSinger, Friday, April 12, 2013, 4:01am; Reply: 90
I'm thinking of doing two juice meals (with added protein powder i.e. pea or rice protein), and then one meal of like meat, fish, sweet potato and vegetable just to get a grip!  

thoughts?
Posted by: Loops, Friday, April 12, 2013, 2:30pm; Reply: 91
hey - don't worry - bound to happen - point is that you keep trying.  I would just stick to the food lists if I were you.  Juice meals never did much for me....Remember failure is giving up trying.
Posted by: ruthiegirl, Friday, April 12, 2013, 2:38pm; Reply: 92
A juice "meal" would never work for me. I'm assuming you mean veggie juice, not pure fruit juice, but still I couldn't do that for more than just a snack. Even when I couldn't chew after dental work, I needed the fiber of pureed foods, not juices, and I pureed broth and meat in with the veggies.

But we're all unique individuals. You may do fine on two "juice with protein powder" meals and one regular meal. It can't hurt to try it- just be open to trying something else quickly if that doesn't work.
Posted by: Victoria, Friday, April 12, 2013, 2:39pm; Reply: 93
If you do those protein drinks, try and keep the sugar content low.  I'd not use all fruit juice - maybe diluted or use almond or rice milk or whatever is compliant for you.  You can spike insulin and it swings you into low blood sugar and cravings.  And add some fat or oil to the drink or ground flax or chia.
Posted by: Loops, Wednesday, April 17, 2013, 6:00pm; Reply: 94
And.....I am back on Swami again!  Tested parmesan AGAIN and nothing happened - so it might not be the cheese doing weird things to me.  Also ate tons of beans and rice yesterday with diamond veggies and meat and belly felt great afterwards - no bloating and although I am not weighing my jeans feel looser this morning.  Am playing tennis but today I feel very tired as my baby is sick and was up all night - but otherwise things are ok.
Posted by: ruthiegirl, Wednesday, April 17, 2013, 6:03pm; Reply: 95
It could be that BTD was best for you while pregnant and postpartum, but SWAMI becomes better as your body shifts back into "regular" mode.
Posted by: BluesSinger, Tuesday, April 23, 2013, 7:53pm; Reply: 96
Oh gosh.. been out of the loop here lost in my food addiction.   :'(

Had 11 great days of freedom and then I lost it.  Then I gained 4 days and then lost it.

Now I am back and working on day 1 again.  What a journey.

However, i'm not going to stay in shame and guilt about it... I'm going to rejoice myself, my connection with God and listen closely to his guidance for my life.

Through it all I've keep going to my 12 step meeting and working on the 4th step which is alot of questions that help one discover their character defaults.  I can tell you this:  it's one thing to think on your character defaults... be subtly aware of them....but when you write them down and they are staring you in the face.. whoa!  The truth hits hard about what a unconscious 'acting out' person I was growing up.  I was a sad lonely insecure girl!  No wonder I chose food to help me deal with stuff... cause I had no idea how to!

The good news is that I'm working on it and discovering my true self which is not the person I was then.. who in my 20/20 vision wasn't even a person.. just an empty shell trying to figure out who I was.  

Hope everyone else that shares on this thread is doing well!

Ha ha.. have to laugh because this morning I've decided that I'm not going to limit my ghee!!  ha ha.... 1 tsp a week is just not going to cut it!!!!    
Posted by: ruthiegirl, Tuesday, April 23, 2013, 8:17pm; Reply: 97
You didn't "fall off the wagon." You just stumbled. Get right back on track.

I completely agree about not limiting ghee. I pay no attention to SWAMI's suggestion about fat intake.
Posted by: BluesSinger, Tuesday, April 23, 2013, 9:45pm; Reply: 98
Quoted from ruthiegirl


I completely agree about not limiting ghee. I pay no attention to SWAMI's suggestion about fat intake.


Glad to hear it!  In the previous incarnations of my BTD & Genotype, my ghee was unlimited!  So I just can't drop to almost nothing!  
Posted by: Victoria, Tuesday, April 23, 2013, 10:04pm; Reply: 99
I think, looking at the big picture, ghee is not an area to stress about.  :)
Posted by: ABJoe, Tuesday, April 23, 2013, 11:01pm; Reply: 100
Quoted from BluesSinger
Ha ha.. have to laugh because this morning I've decided that I'm not going to limit my ghee!!  ha ha.... 1 tsp a week is just not going to cut it!!!!    

I agree that cutting avoids is far more important than worrying about portion size / frequency, especially in the beginning.  You want to work on meal plans and recipes using all beneficial and neutral (if you eat those) foods...  Once you have a pretty good routine down and you're starting to get healthy, then start looking at the fine-tuning...
Posted by: BCgal, Tuesday, April 23, 2013, 11:39pm; Reply: 101
I agree with ABJoe.  When I got serious with my Swami plan I just concentrated on eating my Beneficials.  Didn't pay much attention to portions/amounts.  As I got feeling better I was able to slowly widdle down my portions till I was eating my recommended amounts and frequencies.
Posted by: BluesSinger, Wednesday, April 24, 2013, 4:05am; Reply: 102
My day as I worked to climb back out of Junk food:

Before breakfast:
Two cups of tea with plain organic soy/almond milk and stevia
1 glass of water with ARA6 and 3 tbl concentrated cherry/cranberry juice

Breakfast
2 eggs
1 small sweet potato
Steamed Broccoli with Ghee
1 small piece of Teff toast with Ghee and apple juice sweetened jelly
Vitamins and minerals

Mid Morning
1 cut of tea with plain organic soy/almond milk and stevia

Lunch
Organic chicken lunch meat slices with mozzarella cheese, minced onions, mayo and lettuce
Fresh pineapple chunks
Stevia grape soda cut with water

Afternoon  - My blood sugar was way down and I was suffering so I found myself eating these things.  it did feel like a binge type activity - esp with the TWO bananas but it cured my physical suffering and I remember reading Dr. D saying to eat fruit as you are coming out of blood sugar issues or something like that!
Two bananas, 1/2 cup almonds, Stevia grape soda cut with water

Late Afternoon
1 cut of tea with plain organic soy/almond milk and stevia

Dinner
Stir fried asparagus in Rice Bran Oil with Fresh Rosemary
Crock pot cooked Turkey with natural juices
1/2 cup grape juice cut with soda water
Vitamins and minerals

I feel very full and satisfied.  
I listened to a 78 year old OA online speaker with 28 years of recovery.  She was originally 350 lbs.  She had some wonderful things to say.
Posted by: ruthiegirl, Wednesday, April 24, 2013, 9:24pm; Reply: 103
Looks like you did really well today!

You might want to plan on an afternoon snack at the time you felt the  blood sugar crash, or maybe a little bit earlier so you don't feel "bingey" at that time.
Posted by: BluesSinger, Thursday, April 25, 2013, 2:48am; Reply: 104
Day Two as I rise from the hellaceous pit of compulsive junk eating:

Early Morning
2 cups of tea with organic unsweetened soy/almond milk and stevia
1 glass of water with fiber and 3 tbl concentrated cherry/cranberry juice

Breakfast
Green Juice Protein Shake made with the following:
Juiced Kale, Dandelion Greens, Ginger, Celery; Watermelon, Banana, Pea/Rice Protein Powder, Ground Flax Seeds, Hemp Seeds, Pumpkin Seed Butter, Almond/Soy Milk, Water, Ice Cubes, Stevia.
Vitamins and minerals

Mid Morning
1 cut of tea with organic unsweetened soy/almond milk and stevia

Lunch
Salmon Filet, Green Beans cooked with Ghee - with a dipping sauce of made
of mayo, Garlic Salad dressing and Agave Syrup
1/2 Small Watermelon
1 tbl applejuice sweetened pineapple mango jam
Stevia grape soda cut with water

Early Afternoon
1 cut of tea with organic unsweetened soy/almond milk and stevia

Late Afternoon
Handful of dried mango's.  We were out running around doing errands and got hungry.  Actual hunger!

Dinner
Stir fried asparagus in Rice Bran Oil with Fresh Rosemary
Crock pot cooked Turkey with natural juices
1/2 Very Small Sweet Potato with Ghee
Banana
1/2 cup grape juice cut with soda water
Vitamins and minerals


Today I was not hungry except when meal time came.  That was very good!  But I am aching all over and fatigued.  I'm sure this is a repercussion of the bad eating.   All day long I kept thinking "when we are out, I'll just get hubby to take me to mexican food for dinner and I'll just have an abstinent meal."   I'm so glad I lost interest in that since corn and tomatoes cause me to hurt all over, plus I'm sure there is sugar in the sauces.
Posted by: ruthiegirl, Thursday, April 25, 2013, 5:51pm; Reply: 105
Looks like you're doing well!
Posted by: BluesSinger, Thursday, April 25, 2013, 9:29pm; Reply: 106
Quoted from ruthiegirl
Looks like you're doing well!


you are the cheerleader Ruthiegirl!  Thank you!   ;D
Posted by: Loops, Wednesday, May 1, 2013, 12:00am; Reply: 107
way to go BlueSinger!

I am doing ok - have had a few minor slip ups - a cup of tea with cream and some pork after we ran out of food and my DH cooked up whatever was in the freezer - left over from before.  I have noticed though that I felt bad after the pork - couldn't put my finger on it but just felt a bit 'off'.  I am really digging my diamonds - ginger tea seems to have a big effect on me - makes me feel very warm and energized.  I also eat tons of broccoli and fried hake.  I even managed to get hold of some pomegranates which are also diamonds for me.  I dropped a bit of weight too despite my slip ups.  I have maintained the past week but am hoping for more soon....I have backed off the diamond cheese though - I had a tough lesson of tennis the day after eating a lot of it - I am intolerant to casein and that is the first thing that goes - my tenis performance.  I guess that is just where I am more individual than just being Swami explorer - a personal intolerance.  I am so WARM eating this way too.  No more cold hands and feet.

I am also supplementing with iron and other minerals right now - I have found that my period pains go away when I supplement iron.  A typical explorer trait being low in iron too i think?
Posted by: Lola, Wednesday, May 1, 2013, 12:43am; Reply: 108
nice work! :)
Posted by: Loops, Wednesday, May 1, 2013, 2:33pm; Reply: 109
well dropped a bit more weight.  I ate a lot of butter yesterday which is a black dot but doesn't seem to disagree with me - I try to have more olive oil which is a diamond but sometimes I really like something a bit heavier.  I will make some ghee which is a superfood.  I seem to crave a lot of fat and always have so I am not restricting it if I want it.  Lentils are agreeing with me as well.  I need a moderate amount of carbs to feel well and be able to exercise (well actually to WANT to exercise I need to eat a lot of calories full stop)  - low carb makes me feel awful even with lots of fat - and high carb makes me crazy.  If I mix a decent amount of carbs with lots of fat I am really full of energy and don't seem to gain!  As long as they are compliant carbs of course.  I hope this is the answer for me - I do feel very well on the recommended foods - apart from the cheese.
Posted by: ruthiegirl, Wednesday, May 1, 2013, 3:05pm; Reply: 110
What a great update Loops!
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