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Posted by: TJ, Friday, January 18, 2013, 10:36pm
I believe the biggest problem with leaky gut is that it causes our immune systems to create so many kinds of antibodies that we shouldn't have when our gut is healthy. With that in mind, what are your thoughts about how long it takes for those antibodies to go away once we are on the mend?
Posted by: aussielady582, Saturday, January 19, 2013, 12:03am; Reply: 1
I think it depends on how long the gut has been unhealthy, I once read it can take twice or more as long to mend, ie if the health issues have been there for 4 years, then it may take 7 or 8 years to regain really tip-top health!  I have chronic health issues for most of my life, and every day I know that I am one step closer to feeling really great, ie every day, the gut heals more and more, provided one gives it the proper nutrition designed for humans and your own individual system and keeping out things that should not be there, ie pharmaceuticals, antibiotics, etc. This varies with each person.  I think it is good to read some of the paleo books ie Dr Loren Cordain, or Mark Sisson, etc to give a broader view of nutrition and how different foods (grains, legumes, some dairy foods, excess sugars/sweeteners/high gi fruits, pseudo grains such as quinoa, buckwheat, amaranth, chia seeds) can slowly damage the intestinal lining, and lead to chronic inflammation in the body. Dr D is terrific and I will always listen to BTD and GT recommendations; I also needed to read more to fully understand what happened to my own health. Some people can have more damage if one tries to eat a vegan diet or macrobiotic diet; as a type O and probably nonnie, undigested foods and grains, etc lead to damage, esp if one doesn't have much fat in the intestines/system to deflect damage and digestive enzymes are lacking.  Keep reading/researching and have faith that the body/gut will heal in time. I am already noticing benefits; ie better sleep, smoother and thicker hair, better concentration, better mood, more energy, improved elimination, softer facial skin, muscle is coming back on to my body too. Your body/health will let you know you are on the right track. Best of luck!
Posted by: TJ, Saturday, January 19, 2013, 4:50pm; Reply: 2
That's discouraging to think it will take years. The autoimmune activity seems like the worst aspect of leaky gut. :-/
Posted by: Amazone I., Monday, January 21, 2013, 2:09pm; Reply: 3
to use *Moducare* might be one option... next..while implementing MAP & B-vits in lager amounts... I observed that exactly this problem incl. the leaky gut will heal up much much quicker.... :D(smarty)(clap)(ok) but you need to take the supps. consequentely... I often observed after a while a certain *lögèrté) in the intake of clients... :o :-/ :P.......... the same in and for psychological disorders... they need to take their supps consequently as they do for the normal allopathic medication but nope...so far how can we expect any true improvements ??) ....(shrug)
Posted by: lolazbean, Tuesday, January 22, 2013, 5:12pm; Reply: 4
I found out via my ND and live blood analysis that Leaky Gut Syndrome was the "root" based on diet, and prescription antibiotcs, cause of my health woes after every other doctor told me I was fine. I don't know about you but I had the the following:
Severe mental "fog"
Severe fatigue, even when I was able to get a good nights sleep
Insomnia
Very irritable, often for no reason at all
Mood swings
Weight gain, most in the belly area
Irratic bowel movements, either constipated or diahrea often
anxiety on occasion
heart palpataions (leaky gut usually throws off hormonal balance and this is often an effect of that)
hot flashes in the morning ( I was 39)

I did NOT tell him what I was feeling, I was suspicious based on prior doctor visits who's help included telling me to get more sleep or take an anti-depressant, so I wanted to hear what he thought first. Analysed my blood, then asked me if I felt the above symptoms - I began to cry, finally someone gets it! He also explained that because yeast & bacteria were enetering my blood system, they were also congesting my liver, as it had to try to elimante those things also, when it shouldn't have to. He suggested to heal this by following the Blood Type Diet for my blood type and to be diligent about avoiding any gluten, sugar, dairy, corn, peppers, peanuts or potatos and watch for them as they are hidden in many food products. Basically, just eat food in as natural state as possible and as organic and fresh as you can.

The only supplements he suggested I take were a top quality digestive enzyme, as I was not producing enough on my own and powdered flora, specific for my type. On my own, I found out about L-Glutamine and asked him if he felt it was something I could add, he said I could and I added it.

I felt the same as you at first, years??? So, depressing felt like I would never "heal" BUT after 1 week of this, my brain fog was gone! After 3 weeks I could stay out of bed before 5pm, and for some reason, I felt "sexier" for lack of a better word and my husband picked up on my improved confidence. At 6 weeks I was playing football with my children, in the evening, could not believe it. I even began to loose weight and slept at night!

I went for a follow up live blood analysis 4 months later, it showed while my liver was still congested and pretty strained, the bacteria and yeast were GONE from my blood. I kept telling my ND I had faithfully been following my diet, each time he chuckled, he then explained everyone tells him that, but based on the blood anaysis he is able to know he is fibbing and who isn't, clearly he said I had stuck with the plan. That is not too say my leaky gut is fully healed, and I'm sure if I went back to eating the way I did, all syptoms would be back, the intestine has microscopic "holes" in it, will it take another 6 years to fully heal, I don't know but I do know you can feel and be so much better, getting the "take years" out of my head and just trying what he told me made al the difference in the world, and he introduced me to the BTD, which I have fully embraced, but I am not always strong and do slip from time to time, ie. a birthday party, a bad case of pms - but I forgive myself and don't let it become a reason to stop and I say the phrase Live to Eat or Eat to Live.

My response is long, but when I learned of this for me, I felt very alone - I just want you to know you are not! And no, healing to a point where life is better - does not take years. :)
Posted by: PCUK-Positive, Tuesday, January 22, 2013, 5:27pm; Reply: 5
The gut may take a while to heal completely, but as it gets better it helps. also understand that the antibodies go after only 21 day (perhaps I'm thinking of something else.

also id you are avoiding wheat, gluten, soya, casein you are not hurting the stomach and therefore yourself so much.

this usually show in things like the skin becoming clearer, less rashes, less spaced behaviour etc.
Posted by: Lin, Tuesday, January 22, 2013, 5:33pm; Reply: 6
lolazbean,  Wow I had very similar experience to you starting from late 30's.   Wish I had known about Blood Type diet back then.  I've made some good progress but still working on liver, like you that seems to have taken a big hit and I have trouble digesting fat (gall bladder issue also) so that makes it hard to do cheese which is supposed to heal gut.  
You said you gave up dairy, which I did for many years.  
Do you eat yogurt ? or any cheese?  
Lin
Posted by: Averno, Tuesday, January 22, 2013, 5:52pm; Reply: 7



Great story, Lolazbean. I, like many here, have had similar experiences. We are true believers.
Posted by: TJ, Wednesday, January 23, 2013, 6:22pm; Reply: 8
lolaz, I have similar symptoms. I started BTD in late 2007, and while I've certainly made progress, I'm a long way from healed. Lyme disease may be playing a role. I'm still struggling even with being off all grains since January 2nd. That's great that you were able to find a doctor that pointed you toward the BTD.
Posted by: TJ, Wednesday, January 23, 2013, 6:26pm; Reply: 9
A question, lolaz: so your gut microbes were escaping your intestine and getting into your blood? That's scary! Is that typical with leaky gut?
Posted by: PCUK-Positive, Wednesday, January 23, 2013, 6:30pm; Reply: 10
Quoted from TJ
A question, lolaz: so your gut microbes were escaping your intestine and getting into your blood? That's scary! Is that typical with leaky gut?


yes
Posted by: TJ, Wednesday, January 23, 2013, 8:32pm; Reply: 11
Ew, gross! No wonder I feel so crappy.
Posted by: prunella, Thursday, January 24, 2013, 1:17am; Reply: 12
Lolaz, you nailed it!  The symptoms you listed have developed over the past 20 years, escalating in the past 5 years. All the medical tests by my PCP and rheumatologist are in the normal range. I have been diagnosed with an autoimmune disease, despite the sero-negative test results. No referrals to a gastroenterologist.  My acupuncurist/ND has been most helpful regarding diet. The other docs seem bewildered and probably think I am nutty.  

No practitioner has investigated or mentioned leaky gut. I feel incredibly lucky to have found BTD and Swami. Is there any point in seeking that diagnosis? I feel like Swami, BTD protocols  and homeopathy and acupuncture are addressing the prominent concerns. I actually feel encouraged to think that maybe a few years of swami will lead to improvement!  

Thank you Dr D!! 8)  ;D
Posted by: AKArtlover, Sunday, January 27, 2013, 3:04am; Reply: 13
heal gut while rotating foods (IgG reactive foods no more often than every 5th day after a time of healing). i just found out from one docs experience that potentially some foods may be reacting from forming a bond with something the body doesn't like i.e. mercury or another metal. once the metal isn't an issue, the food isn't either. at least i'm pretty sure that was what he said. healing my brain right now. that was the gist. also, there is a type of therapy that can be done to rid the body of the memory of it. it's an energetic thing. i'll have to find the card i picked up. i read about it and heard about the great results with it previously. in the process of a big house cleaning/organization so i'll surely come across it.

i thought i saw something about it on this page, http://tenpennyimc.com/allergy-elimination/ though she was calling it a different name(similar to the one i had heard of) and has since switched. i'll do my best to remember to update you when i find that card. when i hear good things about something from at least 3 sources, my ears really perk up. :)

i should just look on quackwatch:P
Posted by: AKArtlover, Sunday, January 27, 2013, 3:14am; Reply: 14
Like this link from that page... http://tenpennyimc.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/BRAIN-ALLERGIES.pdf
Posted by: AKArtlover, Sunday, January 27, 2013, 3:39am; Reply: 15
casein, etc was sabatoging me. it is often an issue for those with gluten issues. it has a similar shape. the lyme has a similar shape to these as well. this doc talked about it in a download he once had up. clued me in a bit. pretty positive i don't have lyme. http://www.stevenenninger.com/SteveNenninger/My_Approach.html
Posted by: TJ, Sunday, January 27, 2013, 2:58pm; Reply: 16
Thank you for the links, AK. I will try to read them today after church (and after a nap).

I don't know about Lyme disease either. The Lyme protocol supplement I take helps, but it's very anti-inflammatory in a general sense, so why shouldn't it help if I have inflammation for whatever reason? I think a part of my problem is that I'm just malnourished, in addition to/in connection with the leaky gut-caused inflammation.

I believe more and more in energetics. I have a friend and coworker who is also an herbalist who taught me a good way to do energy testing on myself. It's interesting that my body gave me the go-ahead to try eggs again just a couple days ago. I'm still skeptical about that but I'll try. Maybe my body has forgotten what eggs do. I wouldn't be surprised if, after eating them again a few times, they no longer tested good for me.

Casein is clearly a problem for me, too. Have you also had trouble with whey protein AK? I'm not as sure about that. If I could eat whey (or eggs, or both), that would provide some highly valuable options for nourishing my body that I really need. Since I quit grains, I'm down from 135 to 130 lbs. (at 5' 10.5"). That is totally the wrong direction! While I sort of expect some initial loss from detox, it should be coming back. :-/
Posted by: AKArtlover, Sunday, January 27, 2013, 5:57pm; Reply: 17
body can crave sulfer even when not metabolizing correctly (or maybe because of). molybdenum is helping me with achiness related to the conversion issue. it runs some kind of conversion reaction with the sulfer.  my swami is rich in sulfer foods, and i figure i kicked things into overdrive with detox and couldn't keep up. almost all my IgG's were sulfer rich foods (and ones that grab metals- another piece of it). soooo much to learn. food is often depleted and/or incorrect ph to absorb molyb. my IgG showed reaction to all dairy, though i was loving the whey a long while back when i saw dr. d (probably when "leaking" though-- for the glutithione).

i am dropping metals like crazy right now, my doc says from my labs. i am having ammonia issues as well.

ammonia is highly inflammatory. pieces of the puzzle coming together for me, Praise God!

eat your adzuki beans if they are on swami, the label on a bag i bought showed they were high in molyb.

killing off the bad guys and supporting the good guys, i think for me is more important than dropping all grains. i am still eating rice, quinoa, amaranth, and millet- but i'm using digestive enzymes and betaine (among other stuff). i have to have the calories from somewhere. i'm on low meat protein and do use the protein powder by dr. d and another one quite frequently but have to watch the sulfer with them and the ammonia. a lot of the good veg are sulfer rich and the protein has ammonia as a byproduct of breakdown by those baddies in the gut. the betaine hcl i think really helps with that as does the protease. my doc said the sulfer thing will go by the wayside for me after we get this sorted and those foods will work properly for my body.

i'm getting my brain back. neurotransmitters doubled on last labs. i think i am going to take a basic chemistry class in the summer and then go from there. this stuff is fascinating and so many people can be helped by really getting down to the physiology. we'll see... :)
Posted by: TJ, Monday, January 28, 2013, 12:15am; Reply: 18
I had my two scrambled eggs at lunch today. I'll probably eat a couple more tomorrow and see what I feel like on Tuesday.

I know that sulfites have been trouble for me in the past. At this point, though, I can eat grapes every day (as long as they are washed first). I think the protein, rather than the sulfur, is the problem I have with eggs.

I supplemented with molybdenum for a while. I'll have to look into that again... but ugh, another pill??? :X Adzuki beans are an avoid/toxin for me. I still eat peas, and decided not to get rid of otherwise compliant beans for now, which should provide it via diet.

I have been taking a double dose of digestive enzymes before each meal. I expect two benefits from that: first, I'll find it easier to absorb nutrients, and second, my food will break down faster and more thoroughly with fewer undigested bits to leak through into my blood and provoke auto-immunity.

I haven't gotten my brain back yet... but I have high hopes.
Posted by: AKArtlover, Monday, January 28, 2013, 1:39am; Reply: 19
Quoted from TJ

I haven't gotten my brain back yet... but I have high hopes.


:K)(dove)(pray)
Posted by: TJ, Monday, January 28, 2013, 2:50am; Reply: 20
http://www.komar.org/faq/celiac_disease/Fasano-Scientific-American-8.2009-1.pdf
Posted by: lolazbean, Monday, January 28, 2013, 8:00pm; Reply: 21
Hi again all,

Yes, the liver really does take a beating and my ND said it would take a long time, not to discourage, but to be informed - not only is it healing from the excess that Leaky Gut caused, it is also forced with every single thing to additionally clean out, every single day - think of a clogged up air filtre, we can't just simply remove it (our liver) and insert a new one, we have to just get every strain of "gunk" out, all the while new "gunk" is coming in...you can see how this would take awhile!

Fortunately, there are some really good things to help, eating foods per your type, organic as much as possible cost & availability wise, eating foods raw, if tollerated, great supplements and I should mention another HUGE thing for me was understanding the detoxing process. It was touched on a bit earlier, and I was told similar also "the body having memory". It was explained that yes, chances are once you start getting these "toxins", I'll just use that word to cover everything, bad bacteria, yeast, environmental, etc.. loosened from being stored in the body, they are still in your body, like Dr. D used as an example, cooking the turkey, removing it, there is still "gunk" stuck in the pan. In this state, some believe emotions are also released, such as anger, depression, anxiety, fatigue, etc.. due to things such as cortisol lodging itself into those fat cells and being stored, once you start "wakening" them and telling them to get out, those chemical reactions again take place "the feelings" are noticed again and often times this is why alot of people give up, and say this so called healing/ detoxing doesn't work - I feel worse than I did before I started. This was true for me and I initially had the same reaction.

My wonderful Holistic Health Practitioner/Acupressurist explained the above to me and told me it was a normal process, just hang in there and keep cleaning things out. As she believed in this we also worked on the meridians, (my first visit with her again, I was skeptical, silly me) that was a big help, in so many ways! Some days, it was just relaxing, other days I could honestly feel zipz, zaps, and zings all over my body, I ended up coming to love it so, I have been studying it and hope to attend and graduate from a respectible college of it! Also VERY IMPORTANT, my ND suggested very small doses of Flora, kill the bacteria off slowly because thinking if I take more I'll get rid of it faster, does harm, it kills them off too quickly, the liver and other organs can't keep up with ridding of them, and you end up making yourself more toxic!

Anyway, getting back to the detoxing while healing Leaky Gut, or any illness, it is key to not only get those things loosened but out. Things to help this include, therapies such as acupressure/acupuncture, massage, epsom salt baths, dry body brushing, hydrotherapy, sweating, tons of clean water, lymph massage, good old lemon/water and resting when you can!

In this day and age we are bombarded with YOU MUST EXERCISE! Yeah, right, how when you can barely do the dishes or have energy to brush your hair, right? It's ok - DON'T! Instead of expending that energy outwards, turn it inwards to heal, not only is it ok - it is a good thing for you (I had a hard time getting my head around this, but eventually I did and it is so true!) We wouldn't tell someone with a sweaty fever, hacking cough, runny nose to get off their butt and go jog or go to the gym, why... well, you feel differently when you or others have a condition you can see! Just because this is on the inside and you can't see it, does not mean it is not there, it very much is and being kind to yourself and using that energy to heal, for as long as you need, you will know, is a wonderful thing to do!

I'm not sure how long this was occuring in my body (I am 40 now) probably a long time, but I spent 5 years searching for a solution, that no traditional doctor came up with, nor even suggested, then I tried a different path and like I said, I had a doctor tell me everything I was feeling, the best part, my husband was with me and he saw me cry, not because I was sad, but finally I was understood and have a valid reason for feeling the way I did and it helped him in understanding and supporting also - I no longer had to feel ashamed by not "having anything done" around the house because I was too tired, my ND told him, honestly, the levels of bacteria in her blood and liver, I'm surprised she even gets out of bed in the morning!

Also, again it is important to point out this condition can affect other things such as hormones for men and women, amonst so many other things, I would really suggest going and getting a diagnose from an ND, everyone is so different and the levels of which you may be affected are also so different and honestly, just for the peace of mind, as mentioned too many "doctors" do tend to make you feel like you are crazy because they do not know and don't even consider options not in a text book. I still find it so weird after having my live blood analysis done (and seeing it for myself) why "doctors" prefer to look at someone's blood once it is "dead". I never knew all those different colored caps stood for the different chemicals added to the blood for testing and that the testing is basically taking that blood, spinning it in a machine and counting the numbers spewed out from it vs. looking at the health of the actual blood cell itself, is it weakened, is it stacked (acidic) is it flowing freely (alkaline) how does the plasma look, how well does the white cell ingest a bacteria, how fast do those white cells move - this also helped me to understand why it took forever for a cut or vruise to heal, I have a good number of white cells, but they are lazy, the move very slowly, my red cells were quite pale, yes, I'm low on iron etc... the more I learned the more angry I became at our current standard of health care, I admit, then I let it go and was just grateful to have wonderful health CARE providers out there and to have been able to see, learn and experience the difference.

Some people may classify Live Blood Analysis as "hogwash", well some people say the same thing about BTD, though more often than not those are the same people who prefer chemically made synthetic pills to heal, then are willing to get another prescrition to combat the "side effects" of the first pill and so on and so on...Please don't get me wrong, it's very clear where my strongest faith is, but, yes there are situatios where a surgery, or specific medication is life saving - I get that, truly I do...but if we can start using health "care" as prevention and being pro-active prior to facing these preventable dis-eases, then why aren't we?, and if this is your goal so called, alternative health care is the way to go, perhaps alternative is in fact a good word, I for one much like this aleternative better.

All healing takes time, the learning never ends from those us it helps and those who teach, but it is wonderful to have support like this, I am always grateful for what I learn or at least get understanding from on this site and I am grateful for Dr. D and each person who offers to share in one way or another. Wishing us all good health and great spirit!
Posted by: TJ, Tuesday, January 29, 2013, 4:13am; Reply: 22
I had a good day today. (woot) Energy, brain functioning more or less like it should, I got a lot done at work, and I even felt well enough to attend a social event this evening. I ate eggs yesterday and today. Tomorrow will be telling. I hope it's another good one. It would be marvelous to have eggs back in my diet.

I have had experiences in the past where eating something that wasn't good for me made me feel better at first but much worse the next day (food hangover?) If I feel wrecked tomorrow, I'll know that's just what happened to me.
Posted by: AKArtlover, Tuesday, January 29, 2013, 11:56am; Reply: 23
:)
Posted by: ABJoe, Tuesday, January 29, 2013, 4:27pm; Reply: 24
Quoted from TJ
I have had experiences in the past where eating something that wasn't good for me made me feel better at first but much worse the next day (food hangover?) If I feel wrecked tomorrow, I'll know that's just what happened to me.
I don't know that I agree that this is a food hangover.  I quite often get 2 days of good followed by several that are much worse.  I know from experience now, that these are times when I got the nutrition balanced and the body rested enough to have a couple of days of feeling really good and energetic.  When I get these days, it usually stimulates a period of "deep cleaning" that throws me back into the "bog".  I am so thankful for the couple of days, however, because that reminds me of how good I can (and will) feel once all of the back cleaning completes.

I know it is a long process to clean and heal as much as I needed to do, so I appreciate the good days, but also to not overdo on those days simply because I do feel some better.  I still do more, but just not overdo because I know that more activity stimulates a heavier "down" period...

Posted by: TJ, Tuesday, January 29, 2013, 6:02pm; Reply: 25
Quoted from ABJoe
I don't know that I agree that this is a food hangover.  I quite often get 2 days of good followed by several that are much worse.  I know from experience now, that these are times when I got the nutrition balanced and the body rested enough to have a couple of days of feeling really good and energetic.  When I get these days, it usually stimulates a period of "deep cleaning" that throws me back into the "bog".
Ugh, really? :P

I am still feeling pretty good today. It was hard getting up (as usual), but once I was up and about I got better. Which means I'm moving in the right direction, but I'm not there yet, for sure.

Joe, do you think I should go ahead and eat these last two eggs today, or wait for a few more and see what happens?
Posted by: AKArtlover, Tuesday, January 29, 2013, 11:11pm; Reply: 26
IgG reactions can be several days later. They are usually found by blood testing or strict elimination diet.
Posted by: TJ, Wednesday, January 30, 2013, 4:33am; Reply: 27
I felt pretty good again today. I finished the last two eggs tonight. The several day delay may be true, but unfortunately I don't have a good way to gauge it. I'm just trying to compare what happens now to my previous reactions. It sure is frustrating that it's so hard to pin these things down! At any rate, if I don't have an early reaction, but eggs still cause trouble for me, my body will eventually let me know that eggs aren't good for me after all. That's really the best I can come up with.  :-/

There's another good sign. The first time around on the Constant Health shake, I think it took well over a month before I felt ready to cut back from two shakes to one per day. When I had my second one this evening (less than two weeks in), it felt like it was too much, and that it was time to reduce already!
Posted by: Victoria, Wednesday, January 30, 2013, 6:11am; Reply: 28
Quoted from lolazbean

. . emotions are also released, such as anger, depression, anxiety, fatigue, etc.. due to things such as cortisol lodging itself into those fat cells and being stored, once you start "wakening" them and telling them to get out, those chemical reactions again take place "the feelings" are noticed again and often times this is why alot of people give up, and say this so called healing/ detoxing doesn't work - I feel worse than I did before I started.


The way out, is through.  :)
Posted by: TJ, Wednesday, January 30, 2013, 2:03pm; Reply: 29
Not feeling so great today. I did my energy testing this morning, and my body told me that eggs aren't good for me... :'(
Posted by: AKArtlover, Wednesday, January 30, 2013, 3:06pm; Reply: 30
I look at things constantly changing in the body- needs, prioritization, etc. Perhaps you needed something from the eggs that was more important than something else about the eggs in general. Or eggs are ok, just not right now. I kind of think the body may prioritize risk/reward. If you were on a desert island and were starving, you would eat coconut even if it was an avoid for you generally. Right?

Dr. D has said in the past that these reactions to foods shift with the diet.

I wouldn't be upset. I don't see any of it as permanent. I have hope that even the IGA type reactions could be healed (probably energetically). I don't have any IGA reactions, Praise God! I would like to get rid of IGg gluten and casein reactions especially, not so that I can eat them freely again, just so that I wouldn't have to have any major fallout from incidental exposure.

One of those links above does talk about the addiction cycle though, so I kind of think about that, too. I blind muscle tested very high for gluten (i.e. it was good for me)- this seems to betray the body's reaction.I still feel addicted to pizza on some level though it's been years....

So a complex issue, me thinks. :)
Posted by: ABJoe, Wednesday, January 30, 2013, 4:25pm; Reply: 31
Quoted from TJ
I did my energy testing this morning, and my body told me that eggs aren't good for me... :'(

This happens to me as well...  I eat what the body needs and find that it seems to work best when I fulfill the body's needs.  

Not feeling so well after several days of feeling really good is totally normal for me during this long-term healing process...  I do think that I'll get to the end of it at some point, it is just impossible to predict when that will be...
Posted by: ABJoe, Wednesday, January 30, 2013, 4:29pm; Reply: 32
Quoted from TJ
Joe, do you think I should go ahead and eat these last two eggs today, or wait for a few more and see what happens?

I always follow the body as a guide to know what would be best for it...  If it says eat "X", then I eat it.  If it says I don't need anything, then I start looking for things that would be OK to eat.  If it says to specifically avoid something, I definitely follow that!

Basically, for me, it all comes down to muscle response testing.  I really don't like to be this anal about what foods to eat, but I want to proceed with the healing at as fast a pace as the body will, so I do it!
Posted by: Averno, Wednesday, January 30, 2013, 4:45pm; Reply: 33
Quoted from ABJoe

Not feeling so well after several days of feeling really good is totally normal for me during this long-term healing process...  I do think that I'll get to the end of it at some point, it is just impossible to predict when that will be...


Ditto. All the time, almost cyclically. One thing I've noticed is that this brings me up a step...with new wellness plateaus being reached. I honestly feel as though I'm growing younger sometimes.
Posted by: ruthiegirl, Wednesday, January 30, 2013, 5:40pm; Reply: 34
I'm sorry that eggs didn't work out for you. I was hoping you'd find another food to add in to help you get to a healthier weight!
Posted by: TJ, Thursday, January 31, 2013, 2:38am; Reply: 35
Quoted from AKArtlover
Perhaps you needed something from the eggs that was more important than something else about the eggs in general. Or eggs are ok, just not right now.
I think the idea of "X is ok, just not right now" is good, as well as the idea that X is good for me today, but then isn't tomorrow.

Quoted from AKArtlover
Dr. D has said in the past that these reactions to foods shift with the diet.
I think, yes. Does that mean that if I eliminate all grains, that tapioca and white potatoes move up to neutral or beneficial? ;)



Posted by: AKArtlover, Thursday, January 31, 2013, 4:14am; Reply: 36
:)

I went out to have a chat with an old friend yesterday and I said, "When I was sick..." and I stopped as I caught myself using the PAST TENSE and smiled big time. This is a good sign from my subconsious, Praise God. :)

I think Dr. D might lean to the "ok, just not right now" as well. Just surmising.  ;D

Quoted Text
Does that mean that if I eliminate all grains, that tapioca and white potatoes move up to neutral or beneficial?
Nice.
Posted by: TJ, Friday, February 1, 2013, 3:57pm; Reply: 37
I've done energy testing a few times since and gotten very inconsistent results, so I'm going back to a more fact-based approach. I've been looking at what eggs contain and considering how those nutrients, and their lack, could affect me. I'm sure I need the choline and trace minerals eggs contain, but choline is a precursor to acetylcholine, a neurotransmitter. If I wasn't getting enough of that before, an increase would certainly make me feel different. It tends to be excitatory to the CNS and to the muscular nervous system, but that isn't necessarily a bad thing; just uncomfortable until I adjust?

At this point, I'm certain that the non-protein nutrients in the egg are of great value to me, but I am concerned about the protein. I believe that's the part that gives me problems. I seem to recall reading that the proteins in the white are more inflammatory than those in the yolk. What do you think about just eating the yolk?
Posted by: Spring, Friday, February 1, 2013, 4:01pm; Reply: 38
The yolk of the egg is a super food for me, but the white is a neutral. Whole egg is a neutral. I don't know the reasons, but just thought I would mention this.
Posted by: TJ, Friday, February 1, 2013, 5:20pm; Reply: 39
Interesting. On my SWAMI, whole eggs and eggs whites are superfoods, but egg yolk is neutral. ??)
Posted by: TJ, Friday, February 1, 2013, 6:37pm; Reply: 40
I did find this interesting: http://paleodietlifestyle.com/an-egg-yolk-a-day-keeps-the-doctor-away/
Posted by: Spring, Friday, February 1, 2013, 7:30pm; Reply: 41
Good grief! I think I will take note of this! Maybe you need to try the yolks for your next experiment.... I think you were onto something before you even read the article!
Posted by: TJ, Friday, February 1, 2013, 11:12pm; Reply: 42
Indeed. I'm definitely trying it this weekend.
Posted by: Amazone I., Monday, February 4, 2013, 9:59am; Reply: 43
you might get further infos also here : http://www.klinghardtacademy.com  :D
hipe now this link will work for you ..... out in the diasporah.... :D ;D :K)

amazing amazing how true are his trouvailles- I always wondered while testing people and finding loads of parasites, mould and borellia but a lot doesn't show up in any blood tests!!! Good to get to know..... :o(eek)(dizzy)(cool)
Posted by: ruthiegirl, Monday, February 4, 2013, 5:06pm; Reply: 44
I do know that egg whites are more allergenic than the yolks. My friend's son is allergic to egg whites but not yolks- though he doesn't eat egg yolks often due to the difficulty in making sure the yolks are 100% egg-white free. Hard boiled yolks are safe, but she won't risk separating raw eggs to bake with egg yolks.

If you're just trying to minimize the protein content of the eggs, a trace amount of egg yolk isn't going to hurt you.

I wouldn't worry too much about the SWAMI values, as long as you're not eating black dots or avoids. SWAMI is somewhat static, while nutritional needs can  vary from day to day, especially during times of intense healing.
Posted by: TJ, Monday, February 4, 2013, 11:49pm; Reply: 45
I gave it another try. I bought a one-dozen carton on Friday(?). Scrambled four yolks. The consistency leaves much to be desired. So the next day I scrambled three yolks and one whole egg. Much better. I finished them yesterday with another three yolks plus one whole. I haven't felt very good lately, and that continues today. I sure don't feel a craving for eggs anymore. I think my body has finally caught up with what my brain suspected. I'm content to lay the egg question to rest again for now.

Since yesterday I haven't wanted any of the Constant Health shake. I think the smell of it would have made me queasy. I'm done with it. With this kind of reaction, maybe it's because there's something in it that isn't good for me, rather than because I'm healing and don't need any more. (think)
Posted by: AKArtlover, Friday, February 8, 2013, 12:23am; Reply: 46
http://metabolichealing.com/key-integrated-functions-of-your-body/gut/bacteria-and-the-brain-the-powerful-behavior-modifying-effects-of-the-gut/
Posted by: TJ, Sunday, February 10, 2013, 4:06am; Reply: 47
This makes me wonder doubly how my meds are affecting my gut healing. Prozac affects serotonin. Lamictal is more complicated, and in addition, dries up my nose and mouth (and probably all my mucus membranes, including those lining my GI tract). Darned if I do, darned if I don't. :-/
Posted by: TJ, Saturday, February 16, 2013, 5:43pm; Reply: 48
I've gone this whole week at 175 mg of Lamictal instead of the usual 200 mg. My sinuses have been producing noticeably more. I started back on the elderberry extract last week, hoping to mop up any remaining of the flu viruses that are still hanging around. I'm sure that was part of it, too. By Thursday, I was feeling much improved! I had a friend tell me yesterday that she thought my fingerprint lines looked better than the last time she saw me.
Posted by: ruthiegirl, Sunday, February 17, 2013, 6:44pm; Reply: 49
Glad you're feeling better TJ.
Posted by: TJ, Monday, February 18, 2013, 9:36pm; Reply: 50
Oh yeah, I almost forgot: glutamine powder! (drool)
Posted by: AKArtlover, Monday, February 18, 2013, 9:50pm; Reply: 51
(dance)
Posted by: Rev144, Saturday, March 23, 2013, 9:14pm; Reply: 52
http://metabolichealing.com/key-integrated-functions-of-your-body/oral-dental-health/the-2-most-toxic-practices-in-modern-dentistry/

After being diagnosed with Leaky Gut, the Osteopath tested my dental work.  He said that both my root canals were causing great distress with my digestion.  I recently had both of them pulled and am getting ready to have my mercury removed.  
Posted by: AKArtlover, Sunday, March 24, 2013, 12:10am; Reply: 53
Quoted from Rev144

After being diagnosed with Leaky Gut, the Osteopath tested my dental work.  He said that both my root canals were causing great distress with my digestion.  I recently had both of them pulled and am getting ready to have my mercury removed.  


(clap)(dance)
Posted by: TJ, Sunday, March 24, 2013, 12:30am; Reply: 54
I've been lucky not to have any root canals or metal fillings!

I have a NAET appointment next Thursday. What should I expect? What should I bring?
Posted by: ABJoe, Sunday, March 24, 2013, 12:53am; Reply: 55
Quoted from TJ
I have a NAET appointment next Thursday. What should I expect? What should I bring?

http://www.naet.com/Patients/whatsnaet.aspx
Posted by: TJ, Sunday, March 24, 2013, 2:22am; Reply: 56
Thank you.
Posted by: Rev144, Sunday, March 24, 2013, 3:43am; Reply: 57
Quoted from TJ
Oh yeah, I almost forgot: glutamine powder! (drool)


I thought B's were not suppose to have Glutamine Powder????  I have been holding off!!!
Posted by: yaeli, Sunday, March 24, 2013, 4:27am; Reply: 58
Quoted from AKArtlover
Akartlover thank you for the link. The article is very interesting, and the info is SO basic - enlightening. Lots of wonders.

Posted by: TJ, Monday, March 25, 2013, 12:40am; Reply: 59
Quoted from Rev144
I thought B's were not suppose to have Glutamine Powder????  I have been holding off!!!
Where did you find that information? So far it seems to be good to me. A's aren't supposed to have it.
Posted by: Rev144, Monday, March 25, 2013, 1:54am; Reply: 60
I found it on the curezone list of foods
http://curezone.com/ER4YT/supplements.asp

  Scroll down to L-Glutamine
Posted by: AKArtlover, Monday, March 25, 2013, 10:15am; Reply: 61
In illness, sometimes things are a bit different. Healing leaky gut is a big ordeal.

Membrane cocktail is an avoid for A's? Nah.

Not sure where this info was gleaned from.
Posted by: TJ, Monday, March 25, 2013, 2:30pm; Reply: 62
This isn't on Dr. D's website. It's suspicious.
Posted by: Rev144, Monday, March 25, 2013, 4:10pm; Reply: 63
Is there anyway someone can check for sure?

I cant find any supplements list on Dr. D's site.

Is their a protocol on Dr. D's web site for Leaky Gut?  Link please??

Thank you!
Posted by: ABJoe, Monday, March 25, 2013, 4:53pm; Reply: 64
Quoted from Rev144
Is their a protocol on Dr. D's web site for Leaky Gut?  Link please??

I'd use the Intestinal Health Protocol:
http://www.dadamo.com/protocols/18.html

Stomach support may be helpful:
http://www.dadamo.com/protocols/27.html

You can review the entire list to see if anything else "jumps" out at you.
The entire protocol list is:
http://www.dadamo.com/protocols/index.htm
Posted by: Rev144, Tuesday, March 26, 2013, 4:44pm; Reply: 65
Thank you ABjoe,

Is there a food diet plan to go by too?  I know with Leaky Gut you want to avoid different foods. This would be on top of the blood type diet.  Like the GAPS diet has you avoid fiber for a while, at least until the "leaks" close up.  I realize that the gaps diet is a one size fits all.  As in it has you eating a lot of chicken soup..  For me as a B , Chicken is an avoid. What is in food that caused the Leaky Gut?  Is it the Lectins in foods?  If so, then how can a B ever heal on the Gaps diet if they eat Lectins?  It seems that all the Leaky Gut information I have come across says something about Lectins in this food or that food, which is what got me thinking about the GAPS diet lumping it all into one slize fits all.

At the current time, about all I can eat is Beef with broth , lamb with broth and winter squash and Zucchini squash a little bit of onions and garlic.    When its done boiling , I put in some whipped up eggs and let them cook in the broth until the broth is clear again ( about 2 minutes ) Then I blend it all in the blender  (recent pulled teeth , now my molars look like a picket fence) I make sure to chew it 20 to 30 times to keep my digestive juices flowing.  Anyway, I have tried to add different foods and it causes me to have digestive upset for 24 to 36 hours.  

Sorry TJ for posting this in your thread, I thought what ever information would be better served in one thread since we both  have the same problem!
Posted by: D.L., Tuesday, March 26, 2013, 6:53pm; Reply: 66
I don't feel well today. I didn't sleep much last night (heart beating too fast and restless legs). My top blood pressure number was 156 this morning and I have had a heavy feeling in my chest all day and no energy. I'm pretty sure it's because of something I ate Sunday, two days ago. I was told to stop taking glutamine for my leaky gut while I'm taking caprylic acid for yeast in my digestive system. Most days I feel pretty good and my pressure is around 120, unless I eat something I'm allergic to. But then I'll have a bad day or two for no apparent reason. I think this time it was from food and salt, though. If I avoid what I am allergic or sensitive to, and foods high in carbs, and what my Swami says avoid, there's not much tasty left to eat.
Posted by: ABJoe, Wednesday, March 27, 2013, 1:22am; Reply: 67
Quoted from Rev144
Is there a food diet plan to go by too?

I eat mostly beneficial or superfoods, depending on which plan you follow...  I use SWAMI Xpress.  I do not attempt to mix diet plans.  Dr. D.'s is the only one that has ever helped me heal, rather than just slowing the downhill slide.

I still have cysts containing stored junk from when I ate wrong and didn't process and eliminate the waste, so I continue to detox and have some digestive upset as well, but I know this is part of the healing process.  I keep a positive attitude since I KNOW that I am healing (and healthier than I have been for a long time.)  As long as I eat all beneficial foods, I just let the "feel bads" do what they are going to do - as the junk moving out feels about as bad as when it came in the first time...  It is a process to go through if I want to clean out all of the junk so these cysts don't go cancerous at some point.
Posted by: AKArtlover, Wednesday, March 27, 2013, 1:43am; Reply: 68
Quoted from D.L.
was told to stop taking glutamine for my leaky gut while I'm taking caprylic acid for yeast in my digestive system.  


do you know why this suggestion?
Posted by: TJ, Wednesday, March 27, 2013, 3:48pm; Reply: 69
Quoted from Rev144
Sorry TJ for posting this in your thread, I thought what ever information would be better served in one thread since we both  have the same problem!
No problem, we're all in this boat together.
Posted by: D.L., Wednesday, March 27, 2013, 6:45pm; Reply: 70
AKArtlover - An ND said IF my leaky gut is healed and if I have yeast overgrowth and am taking glutamine powder,then the glutamine will feed the yeast. So she said to take the caprylic acid for a month, along with some powerful probiotics and not the glutamine for the month. But ... we don't know if my leaky gut is healed or not. I'm going to take a couple more tests in two months and see how things are going. I do know that I'm not burping up everything I eat like I was before the caprylic acid.
Posted by: AKArtlover, Wednesday, March 27, 2013, 7:45pm; Reply: 71
interesting. i was/am still prescribed both. glutamine in morning. i felt like i didn't need it after awhile. on the caprylic/intrinsa at simultaneously 2x a day. rotating through bad guy killers. felt the need for the glutamine again recently. hmmm.

starting a new bad guy killer soon, will see how things change.

thanks for sharing.
Posted by: TJ, Wednesday, March 27, 2013, 10:17pm; Reply: 72
Can I just whine a bit? I'm taking oral gentamicin, and the die-off is killing me. All I want to do since I started is sleep and eat. Uggggg....(disappointed)
Posted by: ABJoe, Wednesday, March 27, 2013, 11:16pm; Reply: 73
Sorry you feel bad, TJ.  Hopefully, you are getting much good from the discomfort, though.  It should pass pretty soon...

I assume you are taking probiotics between the doses of Abx...  Does it help any?
Posted by: TJ, Friday, March 29, 2013, 1:41am; Reply: 74
I have been taking probiotics. Good news: I started chlorella last night and it seems to have soaked up that toxic mess. I've had a much better day today than I have all week.  :)

The Buhner Lyme book calls for sarsaparilla to clean up endotoxins, but on the website he says chlorella is better (in light of newer knowledge/research). I believe it.
Posted by: Rev144, Saturday, March 30, 2013, 10:17pm; Reply: 75
I found an article on  L-Glutamine today.  It says Leaky Gut can be greatly helped by taking L Glutamine.   BUT....  3 to 10 teaspoons a day. Not 1 tsp that is recommended on the bottle.   Has anyone taken a large dose and seen a difference?  Also says it levels out blood sugar.

It also makes this comment at the bottom of the  page.....
Quoted Text
Glutamine converts to Glutamate and back again as a very normal process in the body.  Glutamine is not neurotoxic as has been
suggested in the book “The Taste That Kills”.  Unfortunately, there are many scientifically incorrect inferences in this book.  
  Anyone know anything about this?

http://catalog.designsforhealth.com/Glutamine.pdf
Posted by: AKArtlover, Sunday, March 31, 2013, 12:05pm; Reply: 76
my doc has me on 1 g on empty stomach in morning.

interesting... "Cofactor nutrient: vitamin B6, 50 mg per day, helps the body use glutamine more effectively."
Posted by: Enobattar, Sunday, March 31, 2013, 5:37pm; Reply: 77
This thread is so interesting to me and I'm so glad I found it today.

I've often thought and been confounded as to why I keep this bronchial cough (only happens right after I lie down at night), coughing just once or twice.  From all I have read that tells me that my liver is too conjested to burn up the toxins and has thrown them over to the respitory system for removal.  This conclusion is based on information from Dr. Henry Bieler's book, FOOD IS YOUR BEST MEDICINE.  Someone up above mentioned her ND's explanation and it now makes PERFECT SENSE to me, since I now know that I have 'leaky gut' syndrome.

Less than two years ago I began to experience arthritis.  Reading Dr. D's book on the subject, it clearly became evident that I had infectious arthritis (autoimmune) which had it's roots in 'leaky gut'.
This has led me to FINALLY after loosely following BTD, GTD, and SWAMI since 1997, to really crack down on myself and strictly follow my SWAMI.  Autoimmune problems being the only thing in my personal health history that I checked.  Pain, swelling, and stiffness in the finger has subsided!  MOST IMPORTANT to me was the advise Dr. D. gave that when trying to overcome this disease (or any disease, I suspect) I should also AVOID or SEVERELY RESTRICT my Neutrals until I am healed; as too many Neutrals can hinder healing!

In the mean time, I came across a telling article in HEALTH ALERT newsletter by Dr. Bruce West on the leaky gut subject.  He stated that okra was an excellent food to begin to clean off the inside of the intestines where this mucus (for lack of a better word) accumulates over the years causing the leaky gut.  He prescribed daily digestive enzymes (I take Standard Process' Zypan [hydrochloric acid]) and another Standard Process product, Okra Pepsin.  I personally cannot stomach okra and was glad to be able to get it in the form of a capsule.  His article recommended that you need to follow this regimen for at least a year.  I will probably follow this regimen until the pain completely disappears.  I think that will give me the confidence that the leaky gut has healed.

Ever learning and so happy to be a member of Dr. D.'s wonderful User forum.  Thank you all!
Posted by: marjorie, Tuesday, April 9, 2013, 3:35am; Reply: 78
Great information. I wonder if I have leaky gut... definitely feeling different lately.
Posted by: kateland, Friday, April 26, 2013, 2:03pm; Reply: 79
Quoted from Enobattar
This thread is so interesting to me and I'm so glad I found it today.

I've often thought and been confounded as to why I keep this bronchial cough (only happens right after I lie down at night), coughing just once or twice.  From all I have read that tells me that my liver is too conjested to burn up the toxins and has thrown them over to the respitory system for removal.  This conclusion is based on information from Dr. Henry Bieler's book, FOOD IS YOUR BEST MEDICINE.  Someone up above mentioned her ND's explanation and it now makes PERFECT SENSE to me, since I now know that I have 'leaky gut' syndrome.

Less than two years ago I began to experience arthritis.  Reading Dr. D's book on the subject, it clearly became evident that I had infectious arthritis (autoimmune) which had it's roots in 'leaky gut'.
This has led me to FINALLY after loosely following BTD, GTD, and SWAMI since 1997, to really crack down on myself and strictly follow my SWAMI.  Autoimmune problems being the only thing in my personal health history that I checked.  Pain, swelling, and stiffness in the finger has subsided!  MOST IMPORTANT to me was the advise Dr. D. gave that when trying to overcome this disease (or any disease, I suspect) I should also AVOID or SEVERELY RESTRICT my Neutrals until I am healed; as too many Neutrals can hinder healing!

In the mean time, I came across a telling article in HEALTH ALERT newsletter by Dr. Bruce West on the leaky gut subject.  He stated that okra was an excellent food to begin to clean off the inside of the intestines where this mucus (for lack of a better word) accumulates over the years causing the leaky gut.  He prescribed daily digestive enzymes (I take Standard Process' Zypan [hydrochloric acid]) and another Standard Process product, Okra Pepsin.  I personally cannot stomach okra and was glad to be able to get it in the form of a capsule.  His article recommended that you need to follow this regimen for at least a year.  I will probably follow this regimen until the pain completely disappears.  I think that will give me the confidence that the leaky gut has healed.

Ever learning and so happy to be a member of Dr. D.'s wonderful User forum.  Thank you all!


Something you wrote caught my eye. I have had a WEIRD post nasal drip type cough since I was 6 months pregnant (last summer) and it didn't go away after birth. I thought the rhinitis was a symptom of pregnancy hormones. I had our air ducts cleaned, furnace checked (DIRTY filter!), bought a new humidifier, and still I have this awful random cough. If I blow my nose or clear out the secretions I'm fine, but something is trigging a raw feeling in my nose.

I went to my doc and had all kinds of nasal steroids and monolukast pills for what I was told are "new allergies" (never had any before). They didn't work. The only thing that worked was Mucinex to thin the the lining.

I went on liquid diets before a surgery in February and went off all meds. Miraculously the problem disappeared for months. It just showed up again, and I've been non compliant for a few years. I had a feeling it was food related. When I get back on my Explorer diet I bet it'll help. I'm up all night clearing out this stuff.
Posted by: ABJoe, Friday, April 26, 2013, 3:52pm; Reply: 80
Quoted from kateland
... and still I have this awful random cough. If I blow my nose or clear out the secretions I'm fine, but something is trigging a raw feeling in my nose.

The only thing that worked was Mucinex to thin the the lining.

I went on liquid diets before a surgery in February and went off all meds. Miraculously the problem disappeared for months. It just showed up again, and I've been non compliant for a few years. I had a feeling it was food related. When I get back on my Explorer diet I bet it'll help. I'm up all night clearing out this stuff.

Get compliant and drink lemon water to help thin the secretions and your problem will probably disappear.
Posted by: Enobattar, Saturday, April 27, 2013, 2:58pm; Reply: 81
Quoted from kateland


I went on liquid diets before a surgery in February and went off all meds. Miraculously the problem disappeared for months. It just showed up again, and I've been non compliant for a few years. I had a feeling it was food related. When I get back on my Explorer diet I bet it'll help. I'm up all night clearing out this stuff.


Yes, Kateland.  I believe you are on the right track.  My cough will go away on the days that I don't overdo my 'sweet' and carb limitations.   SO HARD FOR ME TO DO.

Also, last year (before SWAMI and loosely following GT diet I came down with the flu for 8 weeks!)  Lost 20 lbs I could ill afford to loose BUT made the important discovery that the pain in my infectious arthritic finger completely disappeared!!!  It all has to do with what I eat.

You'll track your specific problem down.  Just keep paying attention to what/how you've eaten when you experience those symptoms.  I will always encourage anyone who's trying to work out a problem to keep a food journal.  It may be the tool that you need to quickly discover what triggers your symptoms instead of trying to rely on your memory.
Posted by: BluesSinger, Friday, January 3, 2014, 12:37am; Reply: 82
Quoted from ABJoe

I eat mostly beneficial or superfoods, depending on which plan you follow...  I use SWAMI Xpress.  I do not attempt to mix diet plans.  Dr. D.'s is the only one that has ever helped me heal, rather than just slowing the downhill slide.

I still have cysts containing stored junk from when I ate wrong and didn't process and eliminate the waste, so I continue to detox and have some digestive upset as well, but I know this is part of the healing process.  I keep a positive attitude since I KNOW that I am healing (and healthier than I have been for a long time.)  As long as I eat all beneficial foods, I just let the "feel bads" do what they are going to do - as the junk moving out feels about as bad as when it came in the first time...  It is a process to go through if I want to clean out all of the junk so these cysts don't go cancerous at some point.


Hi ABJoe:

Well I've finally decided that I'm stumbling onto the root cause of the increasing pain in my joints, my swollen belly, my 'hurting' belly, the awful gas, burping and other subtle body issues.. i.e. rashes, etc.  Based on reading this entire thread and other info. on the web, I have deduced that I have leaky gut syndrome, and I want to heal it.   :-/

I have noticed your kind words to me over the last year ABJoe letting me know that healing takes time when I've complained of this and that and when I've been searching desperately for solutions so I thought I'd start with you and ask how your healing is going and also exactly what you do.  Before I found this particular  thread on the topic, I had gotten out the BTD Encyclopedia and had prepared to read the Intestinal chapter and anything else related to the gut.

My issues have escalated recently to a very uncomfortable state  and I need to start a solid journey of healing.  I follow my Swami 99.9% and now plan to make it 100%.  As well, I am going to look at severely limiting and restricting neutrals and focus on diamonds and beneficials as mentioned in this thread.  I also need to get back on digestive enzymes and limit my carbs a bit more.  

I do take L Glutamine but I may up it and take it before meals as your doctor instructed you to do.  

If you don't mind responding to tell me more of what you have been doing that maybe can assist me as well.

I'm so bummed I have this.  It seems like it's going to take the rest of my life to get it healed.   :B

But at least now I know that I have found the root cause of my issues.  I've been grappling with thinking it's this food or that food from my Swami, when in reality the problem is the leaky gut and my increasing inability to digest my food and the increasing amount of food that is leaking out of my gut causing me pain and inflammation.  

Oh gosh... I'm realizing that this is the payback for my years of addiction to sugar and junk and the stress that was in my life.  I'm deeply saddened about this but so grateful for this Board and the people on it like you who I can reach out to.

Thanks to anyone in advance who wants to chime in with suggestions and support.
Posted by: ABJoe, Friday, January 3, 2014, 1:43am; Reply: 83
Quoted from BluesSinger
Well I've finally decided that I'm stumbling onto the root cause of the increasing pain in my joints, my swollen belly, my 'hurting' belly, the awful gas, burping and other subtle body issues.. i.e. rashes, etc.  Based on reading this entire thread and other info. on the web, I have deduced that I have leaky gut syndrome, and I want to heal it.   :-/

I have noticed your kind words to me over the last year ABJoe letting me know that healing takes time when I've complained of this and that and when I've been searching desperately for solutions so I thought I'd start with you and ask how your healing is going and also exactly what you do.  Before I found this particular  thread on the topic, I had gotten out the BTD Encyclopedia and had prepared to read the Intestinal chapter and anything else related to the gut.

I do what the information you quoted says...  I have been trying to be consistent in getting all of the green, leafy vegetables as I do more detox when I get more of them.  I do sometimes limit them if I need to be able to function fully for a short period, but it took some practice for me to get the timing right...  

My healing is still continuing.  What isn't indicated in that quote is the cranial reshaping that is ongoing.  Basically, the back half of the top of my head was flat, but for a while has been slowly building a more normal curvature.  This is a very slow process, obviously, so I have quit trying to guess how much longer it will take.  I just continue to supplement to feed the liver and intestinal health, as well as deal with other symptoms as necessary and allow the healing to continue.  I also try to rest or exercise as necessary at the appropriate times, again to meet the needs.
Posted by: BluesSinger, Friday, January 3, 2014, 3:53pm; Reply: 84
Ok.. so I've been spending several hours researching and refining my Swami, researching on the web what each of the disease processes below meant and based on what I found and what my body has, or is currently experiencing, I checked the following:

History of Allergy/Autoimmune Problems
History of Bowel/Digestive Problems
History of Skin Problems
History of Joint Problems

I had checked Environmental Sensitivities - but after I researched what it really was, I un-checked it because I do not seem to get sick from the items in my household or dust or the chemicals that are in all these man made products in my home.  I do not like to smell perfumes or car exhaust or pollution and I don't like the smell of the cleaning agent isle in the grocery store and if I stay to long I could get irritated and maybe get a headache, but I don't seem to get debilitated from my exposure.  Maybe if I was around those substances long term I would.. so who knows.  Because my Swami has the Allergy/Autoimmune and Environmental disease processes as separate boxes to check, I feel I'm covered by checking the Allergy box and not checking the Environmental one.

Thoughts on this?

Also when I had the Environmental box checked the only food items that changed were that Almonds and Walnuts became a black dot.  Is that weird or what?!    




Posted by: ABJoe, Friday, January 3, 2014, 4:24pm; Reply: 85
Quoted from BluesSinger
I had checked Environmental Sensitivities - but after I researched what it really was, I un-checked it because I do not seem to get sick from the items in my household or dust or the chemicals that are in all these man made products in my home.  I do not like to smell perfumes or car exhaust or pollution and I don't like the smell of the cleaning agent isle in the grocery store and if I stay to long I could get irritated and maybe get a headache, but I don't seem to get debilitated from my exposure.  Maybe if I was around those substances long term I would.. so who knows.  Because my Swami has the Allergy/Autoimmune and Environmental disease processes as separate boxes to check, I feel I'm covered by checking the Allergy box and not checking the Environmental one.

Thoughts on this?

This sounds reasonable to me.
Posted by: BluesSinger, Friday, January 3, 2014, 4:33pm; Reply: 86
What do you think about the almond thing?!  Or what does anyone think for that matter?  Any of the food speciality people here on the board?
Posted by: yaeli, Friday, January 3, 2014, 4:57pm; Reply: 87
Quoted from BluesSinger
What do you think about the almond thing?!  
Hi,

What almond thing do you mean?

Posted by: BluesSinger, Friday, January 3, 2014, 5:07pm; Reply: 88
Hey there yaeli.. see my post #83 above!  :)
Posted by: yaeli, Friday, January 3, 2014, 5:22pm; Reply: 89
Oh, sorry...  :) I have no way to know or understand this, and that alone would cause me to at least suspend checking the Environmental box. What would my life be w/o the almonds?  :(  But now, if you decide not to check it, you are going to see for yourself if it's necessary for you to avoid them. I hope not...  ::)  Anyway I trust you'll go all the way  :)

Go BluesSinger! (clap)
Posted by: BluesSinger, Friday, January 3, 2014, 5:47pm; Reply: 90
Quoted from yaeli
Oh, sorry...  :) I have no way to know or understand this, and that alone would cause me to at least suspend checking the Environmental box. What would my life be w/o the almonds?  :(  But now, if you decide not to check it, you are going to see for yourself if it's necessary for you to avoid them. I hope not...  ::)  Anyway I trust you'll go all the way  :)

Go BluesSinger! (clap)


I'm not going to check the environmental box!  i don't want to give up almonds or walnuts.  however if down the line if I am still having issues... i'll see.  for now.. i'm going to let Swami work on healing my gut with the boxes I've checked and get even more concentrated on Diamonds and Beneficials with very few neutrals and NO black dots.  
Posted by: ABJoe, Friday, January 3, 2014, 7:06pm; Reply: 91
Quoted from BluesSinger
What do you think about the almond thing?!

It is what it is...  There are too many different components of each food being tested for me to evaluate what component of the food may be causing some specific symptom or condition to be worse...  I try to avoid "analysis paralysis".
Posted by: ABJoe, Friday, January 3, 2014, 7:08pm; Reply: 92
Quoted from BluesSinger
Hey there yaeli.. see my post #83 above!  :)

Actually, reply #84 in this thread - unless someone deletes a post...
Posted by: BluesSinger, Friday, January 3, 2014, 7:11pm; Reply: 93
Quoted from ABJoe

It is what it is...  There are too many different components of each food being tested for me to evaluate what component of the food may be causing some specific symptom or condition to be worse...  I try to avoid "analysis paralysis".


I just wondered as it seems very odd that almonds are an avoid when you check 'environmental sensitivies.'  One would think they would be an avoid when one checks allergies!  

at any rate.. i don't get into the analysis paralysis either.. i was just wondering if anyone had a clue as to why this was.
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