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Posted by: 25454 (Guest), Sunday, December 16, 2012, 12:55pm
Distilled liquor is on the avoid list (which I would expects on any nutrition plan) I enjoy a small glass of scotch at night.   Can some one explain why its on the type o avoid list?  
Posted by: Goldie, Sunday, December 16, 2012, 1:42pm; Reply: 1
Wine is allowed.. for some.. how old are you? .. a small nip.. never more?  are you compliant with other foods you eat? if yes.. I would have that nip .. but not more.. we are allowed up to 20% cheating.. if we are willing to pay the price of not feeling optimal.. when I cheat more than 5% I get bad results.. life is easier - feeling better- when doing RIGHT for YOUR type.  

Have you ever tried doing without?  or switch to wine? what did you see as a difference?

Can you cut down rather than out, choose a smaller and smaller glass?  

  
Posted by: ABJoe, Sunday, December 16, 2012, 2:43pm; Reply: 2
Quoted from 25454
Distilled liquor is on the avoid list (which I would expects on any nutrition plan) I enjoy a small glass of scotch at night.   Can some one explain why its on the type o avoid list?  

Quoted from Typebase - Liquor, Distilled
TYPE O:Secretor:
AVOID: Contains component which can modify known disease susceptibility.

Non Secretor:
AVOID: Contains component which can modify known disease susceptibility.

This means that some component that causes other diseases to manifest themselves more regularly...  It is not stated what the component is or what disease is "promoted".

Much alcohol is either corn or potato based and both are bad for most Type O individuals.
Posted by: ruthiegirl, Sunday, December 16, 2012, 2:50pm; Reply: 3
On my personalized SWAMI, "liquor, distilled" is a black dot- meaning it's something I can enjoy in moderation, very infrequently. It's not something I'd ever have daily (that's what red wine, a beneficial, is for) but it's not going to harm me if I have a shot of strong liquor once a month or so. (I actually have it less often than that.)

Remember that you're in charge of your own health. If you want to follow most of the Type O plan, but keep having the one glass of Scotch each night, that's your decision to make. The one drink will not undo all the other healthy food changes you're making.
Posted by: RedLilac, Sunday, December 16, 2012, 2:59pm; Reply: 4
Quoted from ABJoe

Much alcohol is either corn or potato based and both are bad for most Type O individuals.


I believe Scotch is made from barley which is a neutral for O.
Posted by: deblynn3, Sunday, December 16, 2012, 8:09pm; Reply: 5
Isn't barley "barley wheat"?   or is that just a name? I'm not sure.  I've found that alcohol is high in sugar with isn't needed by most Os. I'm thinking there is something about thyroid and alcohol as well. Those would be the topics I'd do some research on.
Posted by: Christopher1, Sunday, December 16, 2012, 9:11pm; Reply: 6
Tequila is grain-free. I enjoy it in moderation - sometimes... ::)
Posted by: ABJoe, Sunday, December 16, 2012, 10:59pm; Reply: 7
Quoted from deblynn3
Isn't barley "barley wheat"?

No.  Both barley and wheat are grass grains - so closely related, but they are distinct entities.  
Barley is Genus Hordeum vs. Wheat, Spelt, etc. are Genus Triticum.  
Posted by: ABJoe, Sunday, December 16, 2012, 11:02pm; Reply: 8
Quoted from Christopher1
Tequila is grain-free. I enjoy it in moderation - sometimes... ::)

Tequila is generally made from agave, but is still a distilled liquor for the purpose of the rating.

We are all able to determine how closely we adhere to the ratings...
Posted by: Christopher1, Monday, December 17, 2012, 1:44am; Reply: 9
Quoted from ABJoe

Tequila is generally made from agave, but is still a distilled liquor for the purpose of the rating.

We are all able to determine how closely we adhere to the ratings...


Wine is definitely a better alternative - but my friends always make fun of me when I drink wine. ; )

A little tequila can't hurt... = )
Posted by: Ribbit, Monday, December 17, 2012, 1:57am; Reply: 10
^ Peer pressure.(ondrugs)
Posted by: Christopher1, Monday, December 17, 2012, 2:26am; Reply: 11
Quoted from Ribbit
^ Peer pressure.(ondrugs)


True. ;D
Posted by: ABJoe, Monday, December 17, 2012, 2:44am; Reply: 12
Quoted from Christopher1
...but my friends always make fun of me when I drink wine. ; )

I know...  No matter what you do that is "different" from the "norm", someone will make fun or ask questions...  So what!  Stick to your position and it gets easier each time you do...

I had a boss that kept pushing after I said I didn't care for more - finally asked his son how to say "No." to him...  He told me and it was easy after that...  I don't have any problem now setting a limit and sticking to it.  For me, that means I don't eat or drink avoids, if I can possibly avoid it.  Since it is never a "need" to drink distilled liquor, it will never be a problem.  I enjoy beer and red wine, which are both Beneficials for me, that I have no need to drink the avoid.
Posted by: Christopher1, Monday, December 17, 2012, 3:14am; Reply: 13
Quoted from ABJoe

I know...  No matter what you do that is "different" from the "norm", someone will make fun or ask questions...  So what!  Stick to your position and it gets easier each time you do...

I had a boss that kept pushing after I said I didn't care for more - finally asked his son how to say "No." to him...  He told me and it was easy after that...  I don't have any problem now setting a limit and sticking to it.  For me, that means I don't eat or drink avoids, if I can possibly avoid it.  Since it is never a "need" to drink distilled liquor, it will never be a problem.  I enjoy beer and red wine, which are both Beneficials for me, that I have no need to drink the avoid.


I know - I was just saying that in jest. I don't really care what they say. I'm European after all - so I like my wine.

Your words are very true though...
Posted by: BHealthy, Monday, December 17, 2012, 3:30am; Reply: 14
Quoted from ABJoe

Tequila is generally made from agave, but is still a distilled liquor for the purpose of the rating.

We are all able to determine how closely we adhere to the ratings...
Agave is an avoid for me.  Is it an avoid for all O's?

Posted by: ABJoe, Monday, December 17, 2012, 4:09am; Reply: 15
Quoted from BHealthy
Agave is an avoid for me.  Is it an avoid for all O's?


Per BTD, it is Neutral for all...  I guess you are just one of the "lucky" ones...
http://www.dadamo.com/typebase4/depictor5.pl?600
Posted by: BHealthy, Monday, December 17, 2012, 6:05am; Reply: 16
Quoted from ABJoe

Per BTD, it is Neutral for all...  I guess you are just one of the "lucky" ones...
http://www.dadamo.com/typebase4/depictor5.pl?600
Oops!  I misspoke.  Aloe is an avoid for me, not agave.  

Agave SYRUP is a beneficial but the plant is not listed.

Posted by: BHealthy, Monday, December 17, 2012, 9:55am; Reply: 17
Quoted from ABJoe
Much alcohol is either corn or potato based and both are bad for most Type O individuals.
Does this mean that grappa, made from red grape skins,and brandy made from wine is OK?  

Posted by: ruthiegirl, Monday, December 17, 2012, 4:10pm; Reply: 18
I'm pretty sure that tequila is fermented from agave syrup, not the whole plant.

You're supposed to use the rating for "distilled alcohol" for any distilled alcohol, regardless of what it's fermented from. Dr D didn't spend a lot of his time evaluating different alcoholic beverages.

However, it's common sense that something fermented from a compliant source should be better for you than something fermented from a non-compliant source. I don't drink hard liquor often (it's a black dot) but when I do, I try to select liquors fermented from compliant sources. Tequila or brandy would probably be the best choices for me.

The reality is, though, that I only drink twice a year, at a large gathering, and I'm never the one actually  buying the alcohol. So I have one shot of whatever's available (often a sweet dessert liquor that surely has "avoid" sugar in it) and mix it with seltzer and I don't worry too much about the ingredients.
Posted by: ABJoe, Monday, December 17, 2012, 4:58pm; Reply: 19
Quoted from BHealthy
Does this mean that grappa, made from red grape skins,and brandy made from wine is OK?  

No.  If it is a distilled liquor, no matter the source, it falls into that category...
Posted by: Easy E, Monday, December 17, 2012, 8:13pm; Reply: 20
Quoted from 25454
Distilled liquor is on the avoid list (which I would expects on any nutrition plan) I enjoy a small glass of scotch at night.   Can some one explain why its on the type o avoid list?  


I'm sure a little scotch would not hurt, if you eat right and exercise right for your type.  That is just my personal opinion though.  There are worse toxins out there i would think.

Alcohol of all types is a toxin for my type, but i still enjoy a few glasses of wine or a few beers though on special occassions, like 5 o'clock and weekends!
Posted by: Christopher1, Monday, December 17, 2012, 8:49pm; Reply: 21
My grandmother was 97 when she died. Her secret? A tequila every day with lunch. ::)

She was an O.
Posted by: Ribbit, Tuesday, December 18, 2012, 12:28am; Reply: 22
We've all had the flu for a week.  I'm so congested I can hardly sleep and I'm doing everything herbal I know to do.  My chiropractor suggested a shot of whiskey with honey.  I don't want to do that, but I thought maybe rum would be a better option.  Any amount of wine would have so much sugar in it it would make it counter-productive, right?  
Posted by: ABJoe, Tuesday, December 18, 2012, 12:44am; Reply: 23
Ribbit,

In this case, the alcohol / honey combination is to make you drowsy so you can sleep easier...  The alcohol content of whiskey is higher than wine, so less of it would be necessary, and probably tastes better with honey added... ;)
Posted by: Ribbit, Tuesday, December 18, 2012, 1:12am; Reply: 24
At this point, I just want to sleep.  And I want to be able to exhale without coughing.  I don't have anything "hard" in the house.  I do have a bottle of wine, but I don't want to counteract all the immune-boosting stuff I'm taking by drinking a glass or two.  Or whatever it takes.
Posted by: ABJoe, Tuesday, December 18, 2012, 1:18am; Reply: 25
If the only thing you have is wine, I'd mix a glass with the recommended honey and drink it - probably faster than I'd typically do for enjoyment...  I'd do it again as soon as I woke up and couldn't get back to sleep, but wanted to...

I think it will help you sleep so that the body can continue with the immune enhancements...  Lack of sleep will definitely slow down healing, etc...
Posted by: Ribbit, Tuesday, December 18, 2012, 1:23am; Reply: 26
Thanks, Joe.  I'll do that.  I'm afraid that if I don't get rid of this soon, it'll settle down into my lungs like that horrific flu we had 3 years ago when I was convinced we had whooping cough. :X  We've decided that it's better to dish out the money to take cod liver oil, elderberry and D3 all fall and winter for prevention...rather than risk this.
Posted by: Ribbit, Tuesday, December 18, 2012, 5:16am; Reply: 27
Thanks for the advice, Joe.  My cough is temporarily gone.  I hope to sleep well tonight after a good bit of wine.  I'm astonished at the way it has abolished the cough. :o
Posted by: ABJoe, Tuesday, December 18, 2012, 5:25am; Reply: 28
Quoted from Ribbit
Thanks for the advice, Joe.  My cough is temporarily gone.  I hope to sleep well tonight after a good bit of wine.  I'm astonished at the way it has abolished the cough. :o

Great!!!  I hope you feel much better soon!
Posted by: Easy E, Tuesday, December 18, 2012, 4:36pm; Reply: 29
Quoted from Ribbit
We've all had the flu for a week.  I'm so congested I can hardly sleep and I'm doing everything herbal I know to do.  My chiropractor suggested a shot of whiskey with honey.  I don't want to do that, but I thought maybe rum would be a better option.  Any amount of wine would have so much sugar in it it would make it counter-productive, right?  


Wine is great for warriors, esp red wine.  Would boost immunity and help clear mucus i would think.

Posted by: Ribbit, Wednesday, December 19, 2012, 12:20am; Reply: 30
Well, it definitely cleared mucus.  I didn't cough the entire night.  I'm going to drink some again tonight.
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