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Posted by: BHealthy, Sunday, December 16, 2012, 4:32am
I have a smoothie every morning which includes, among other things, some green powder.  The one I used to use, Caldera Greens, is mostly beneficials for me except for the alfalfa grass juice.  The one I use now contains broccoli, cilantro, tomato, carrot, spinach, beet root and wheat grass, all benes except for the wheat grass which is an unknown.  I can't take Harmonia because of the chlorella.

Anyway...I was placing an order for bulk herbs and spices from Starwest Botanicals and noticed that they sell many of my diamonds in organic powder form.  So why couldn't I use them to concoct my own personalized green powder using all diamonds?

I realize they're dried, not fresh, but I can't always get fresh dandelion, artichoke, kale, etc... and making my own I can add tarragon, rosemary, and nettle leaf.

Can anyone think of any reason why I shouldn't do that?  
Posted by: Lola, Sunday, December 16, 2012, 6:04am; Reply: 1
do :)
Posted by: AKArtlover, Sunday, December 16, 2012, 6:24pm; Reply: 2
Sounds good, but rotate and don't overdo any one thing. Herbs are pretty powerful.  Excellent idea.
Posted by: ruthiegirl, Sunday, December 16, 2012, 6:31pm; Reply: 3
Sounds good to me! Can you share the website in case others want to do the same?
Posted by: deblynn3, Sunday, December 16, 2012, 7:35pm; Reply: 4
I think this is a fine idea, you might what to price check.  Two sites I like are http://www.nuts.com     and

http://www.mountainroseherbs.com        


I'll look at your site as it is new to me.
Posted by: BHealthy, Sunday, December 16, 2012, 10:07pm; Reply: 5
Quoted from ruthiegirl
Sounds good to me! Can you share the website in case others want to do the same?
Of course!  http://www.starwest-botanicals.com/




Posted by: Victoria, Sunday, December 16, 2012, 10:58pm; Reply: 6
Mountain Rose Herbs and Star West are the two companies that our local health food stores buy their bulk herbs from.
Posted by: BHealthy, Monday, December 17, 2012, 3:55am; Reply: 7
Quoted from deblynn3
I think this is a fine idea, you might what to price check.  Two sites I like are http://www.nuts.com and http://www.mountainroseherbs.com
I just started another thread about this.  

MRH is much cheaper than SWB where they have the same product with the same country of origin.  Whether it is the same quality, I don't know.

Two years ago I bought several herbs and spices from MRH and gave most of them away as they were almost totally lacking in aroma when compared to the products from Penzey's that I was replacing even though the Penzey's products were over a year old.  I didn't cook with them, though, so they might have had sufficient flavor even though there was no fragrance.  

At that time, before SWAMI, I was concerned only with taste, not health benefits.  Is there a relationship between the amount of benefit and the aroma?

Last year I did some comparison shopping with Indus, Spices Inc, and Spice House and found that each one had some products that I liked and some that I didn't.  SWB was not part of my comparison and, again, I was looking for flavor/aroma.

I buy most of our nuts from Nuts Online but I don't buy their powders because many of them contain silicon dioxide.

For my smoothie powder, StarWest Botanicals has almost everything I'm looking for.  Mountain Rose Herbs has some of them, much cheaper than SWB.  Are they the same product for less money, or an inferior product for less money?

I'd rather pay more and get better quality but I don't want to pay more for the same quality.

Can anyone advise me?

Posted by: BHealthy, Monday, December 17, 2012, 8:12am; Reply: 8
I've just analyzed the differences between Mountain Rose Herbs and StarWest Botanicals and the price differences are astonishing; SWB is sometimes almost twice as much as MRH for product from the same country (which doesn't mean it's from the same supplier/quality).

Where SWB is the only source (dandelion, artichoke, parsley, bromelain,) I will buy from them.

Where both MRH and SWB offer the same product with the same origin I will buy a small amount, compare them, and report back here.  Most of the spices fall into this category.

Where both MRH and SWB offer the same powder with different origins, I need assistance determining which might be the better quality product.  Even if I order one of each, I wouldn't know how to tell which one was better.  Has anyone tried any of these:

BARLEY GRASS powder:
SWB - origin USA, $9.08/4oz $22.83/lb
MRH - origin USA, $5.25/4oz $15.50/lb
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From Nature's Way: Barley Grass grown in the winter and early spring on the Midwestern plains, slowly matured and tempered by the weather, has a greater nutritional value and a lower sugar content than Barley Grass sprouted indoors in a warm environment.  As a nutritional supplement, it is preferable to use young barley plants that have not yet developed seeds.
In a wholesale catalog I found, barley grass powder was 1/2 as much as barley grass JUICE powder, but I don't think either of these are juice powders.

KELP powder:
SWB - Ascophyllum nodosum, origin Canada, $3.75/4oz
MRH - Ascophyllum nodosum, origin Iceland, $2.00/4oz
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From the MRH website: Many of the world's oceans are suffering from pollution, so it is best to use a Kelp product from clean, pristine and protected ocean. Hawaii, Iceland, Canada, and the North West United States are all choice locations for quality Kelp products.
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From curezone.com forum:
Rockweed (Ascophyllum nodosum) may work better for some folks and Kelp (Laminaria digitata) may work Better for other folks?

The Rockweed Kelp is going to keep one warmer in cold weather, and the Laminaria digitata(Kelp) may cause one to become Colder in cold weather?

The Laminaria digitata may have the Highest Natural Iodine content of all kelps !


NETTLE LEAF powder:
SWB - origin Egypt, $5.50/4oz
MRH - origin Hungary, $3.50/4oz

NETTLE ROOT powder:
SWB - origin Croatia, $5.75/4oz
MRH - origin USA, $5.50/4oz

I found no advice on the best source for nettle leaf or root.
Posted by: deblynn3, Monday, December 17, 2012, 4:14pm; Reply: 9
I use MRH for some oil for soap I was able to get bulk. I did get some neem powder, but I'm using it in soap. I'll need to read

My sister (licence nutritional herbalist) says the aroma is important, She prefers plants and then to crush them as you use them. (I'm sure that isn't always possible)  I can only do what I can, the plants that I grow  or the mullien, catnip, plantain and elderberry which grow wild here, I take off the leaves/ berries to dry and seal in jars so that they are as whole as possible. But I don't drink green drinks. (I just don't care for them) The dried herbs I got from nuts had a strong aroma and leaves were intact.  

I'm not sure if you can alway expect the same quality from anyone, as so much depends on what the season is like.  I'd have to read up some of what you've written. Swami has taken me off kelp and I haven't studied up on it. Interesting, are both kinds from "cleaner" oceans?
Posted by: ruthiegirl, Monday, December 17, 2012, 4:38pm; Reply: 10
I think the only real way to compare the products from two different sources is to buy a small amount from both places and compare them yourself. It wouldn't surprise me if one source was consistently better than the other, nor would it surprise me if some products were better from one place and other products better from the other.
Posted by: BHealthy, Tuesday, December 18, 2012, 4:22am; Reply: 11
Quoted from ruthiegirl
I think the only real way to compare the products from two different sources is to buy a small amount from both places and compare them yourself. It wouldn't surprise me if one source was consistently better than the other, nor would it surprise me if some products were better from one place and other products better from the other.
I plan to do that.  I placed the order from Starwest this morning and will order from Mountain Rose once their site is back up. Nuts.com doesn't sell organic herbs and spices, only conventional, so they're out of the running.

I decided against the dandelion, parsley, and artichoke because they're high in iron and I'm concerned about that at the moment.  So I'll only be comparing the barely grass, nettle leaf, stone root, and some spices.

Ruthie, Starwest sells bromelain by the pound.

Posted by: ruthiegirl, Tuesday, December 18, 2012, 7:32pm; Reply: 12
How much does a pound of bromelain compare to the capsules? It's hard to do an accurate comparison without knowing "just how much" a pound is.
Posted by: DoS, Tuesday, December 18, 2012, 9:10pm; Reply: 13
Why no chlorella?

Seems kind of like a fun idea. Also makes me think about smoothies but those require a blender.
Posted by: BHealthy, Tuesday, December 18, 2012, 9:11pm; Reply: 14
Quoted from ruthiegirl
How much does a pound of bromelain compare to the capsules? It's hard to do an accurate comparison without knowing "just how much" a pound is.
One pound is 453592 miligrams.  Each capsule is 500mg so one pound would be the equivalent of 907 capsules.  

One pound of bromelain is $33.33 plus $8.04 shipping to IL = $41.37

907 capsules would cost you $186.
Posted by: ruthiegirl, Friday, December 21, 2012, 4:45pm; Reply: 15
According to my calculations, I could get 907 capsules for only $166.28,(at $11 for a bottle of 60 tablets) not $186. ;) Of course, there are also additives in the capsules that I found at my local HFS.

If I decide to keep using bromelain regularly, I'll order it in powder form in January. I won't have the cash for it until then, and a second bottle will only cost me $11 out of December's budget.
Posted by: grey rabbit, Friday, December 21, 2012, 4:51pm; Reply: 16
this is a great idea, I've been wondering how to get more greens in my busy schedule, I must try to remember this for my January budget!
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