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Posted by: Adopted4, Friday, December 14, 2012, 7:46pm
My Nomad son has had bloodshot eyes again the past week off and on, but he has no outward symptoms of conjunctivitis/pink eye. This has happened to him off and on over the years for unknown reasons also.

I read up again on Wiki about general symptoms associated with pink eye, none of which he has. He has no symptoms of a cold or allergies. There's no discharge or watery eyes and the redness kind of comes and goes. The only discomfort he has is slight irritation if he rubs his eyes, although he has not been feeling like rubbing his eyes excessively.

I'm treating it as though it's an immune system issue and have told him to take 500 mg of Vitamin C every few hours, but I don't always remember to remind him so he ends up taking about 3 or 4 doses a day. It seems to have a positive effect if he's remembering to dose frequently.

I think, since he's a Nomad with a tolerant world-view, he may be prone to this kind of lingering or difficult to diagnose ailment. He does not get sick easily, but when he gets cold symptoms he is not prone to watery, red, irritated eyes.

Anyone care to wager any guesses? Oh, and to set the record straight, he does NOT do drugs or drink any alcohol.
Posted by: cajun, Saturday, December 15, 2012, 2:32am; Reply: 1
Does he play video games or use the computer for any length of time?
Posted by: Adopted4, Saturday, December 15, 2012, 1:39pm; Reply: 2
He does not play video games frequently, but we do have WII games that we allow the kids to use on the weekends. Computer time is limited to 1 hour of Math per school day (Kahn Academy), Switched on Schoolhouse Language Arts about 30 to 40 minutes per school day, and occasional FB and time to read e-mail. Compared to your average teenager, computer and game time is probably considerably less than most.

He did tell me this morning that his eyes are usually fine when he gets up in the morning, but then becomes red and irritated during the daytime (which I"ve occasionally noticed). He is good about cleanliness and not rubbing his eyes with dirty hands, btw.

I didn't mention we have 4 cats and occasionally he holds 1 or 2 of them on his lap in the evenings or weekends while watching T.V., but the redness does not seem to coincide with those times, and as I said he does not appear to have noticeable allergy symptoms.
Posted by: ABJoe, Saturday, December 15, 2012, 6:21pm; Reply: 3
Colleen,
This sounds like a sensitivity (or allergy) to something with the symptoms being that he has irritation around the eyes.  It is possible the irritation is caused from dry eyes.  It may be one or a combination of things that he is sensitive to...

Sometimes, it is real detective work to determine what the item(s) is/are that are causing the issues...

Much success in determining what is causing the problem.
Posted by: wanthanee, Sunday, December 16, 2012, 6:50pm; Reply: 4
:D In the book some part it says:

Bloodshot eyes

A bloodshot appearance can also result from deficiencies in vitamins B2(riboflavin) and B6(pyridoxine),and the amino acids histidine, lysine, or phenylalanine. Once the body receives the nutrients it needs, the congestion in the blood vessels should disappear.

Nutrients

-Supplement: Vitamin A 25,000 IU daily. If you are pregnant, do not exceed 10,000 IU daily.
Comments: Needed for all eye disorders
-Plus carotenoid complex with lutein and zeaxanthin, suggested dosage: As directed on label.

-Supplement: Vitamin B complex 100 mg of each major B vitamin 3 times daily(amounts of individual vitamins in a complex will vary) comments:  Deficiencies have been linked to bloodshot eyes.
-Plus free form Amino acid, suggested dosage: As directed on label.
Comments: use a formula containing both essential and nonessential amino acids

- Vitamin C with Bioflavonoids 1000-2500 mg 4 times daily
Comments: Important antioxidants and necessary free radical destroyers. Required for tissue growth and repair.
---------------------------------------------------------
“Unless otherwise specified, the nutrient dosages given in the tables within this section are for adults.

For a child between the ages of twelve and seventeen, reduce the dose to three-quarters of the recommended amount.
For a child between six and twelve, use one-half of the recommended does,

and for a child under the age of six, use one-quarter of the recommended amount.”
-------------------------------

Besides following Swami and the vitamin from NAP, I take benefit from this book (I purchased about 3 months ago for only $30.00 dollars….a good value with a total of 883 pages.  I have used this book for a guideline of what I need.  For example, in my case I need Vitamin E so I eat more sunflower seeds instead of taking vitamin pills.  In only 1 oz, I get 9.3 mg.  In the past I never liked to take vitamins, I would only get nutrients from foods but I started to take some vitamins form NAP since I turned 51. Well… Polyvite contains Vitamin E 25 IU.  It also contains B12 which I should not take since I my B12 is already too high.  Because of that, I only take it about 3 times a month.

http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/nut-and-seed-products/3076/2

Food for Lutein+zeaxanthin:
Kale raw:  100 g have 39551 mcg
Kale, cooked : 100 g have 18248 mcg

-     As I know Vitamin B decreases in foods during cooking.  
-     As I know the food for carotenoid complex are:

Carrot, Red Bell Pepper, Spinach, Apricot, Strawberry, Peach

http://nutritiondata.self.com/foods-000138000000000000000-w.html
Posted by: gulfcoastguy, Sunday, December 16, 2012, 10:24pm; Reply: 5
Does he wear contact lenses?. Wearing them for too many hours and/or sleeping in them can do that. Also you might want to have him testing for allergies to the cats. Cat or dog allergies can develope over time.
Posted by: Adopted4, Monday, December 17, 2012, 1:25pm; Reply: 6
My son doesn't wear contact lenses. Yes, it certainly is possible there is a sensitivity to our cats, but I"m not getting a strong sense that it is the root problem. Our cats rarely go into our sons bedroom and he does his school work primarily away from common household areas where the cats usually hang out (they spend a lot more time in my bedroom than anywhere else). We have excellent filtration in our home, as well as the home which just moved away from a couple months ago. We continually run an air purifier in a central area of the home and change our furnace filters every month. It is my husband we know for certain that has sensitivities to our cats and we do our best to not let the cat hair problem get out of control.

Thanks for all the nutritional advice wanthanee. I'm not sure which book you found that information but I'd like to know so I can keep it around the house as a reference. I have the Eat Right 4 Your Type and used to have the Genotype Diet book until I loaned it to someone. Maybe I"ll get the "Live Right" book for Christmas??? Maybe focusing more on foods rich in B vitamins is a good approach to take.
Posted by: ruthiegirl, Monday, December 17, 2012, 3:50pm; Reply: 7
Hmmm. You just moved. I wonder if he's having any seasonal/environmental allergies to something in the current environment that wasn't present where you used to live. If this is the case, eating locally produced honey may help.

It also may be that his body is fighting off a virus- he could be getting some eye symptoms even without completely "getting sick." Or he could have gotten something in his eye causing a local mini-infection.

Or he may be reacting to extra stress/lack of sleep; something which seems to affect teenagers a lot. They often push themselves past their healthy limits, because they want to do fun things but still have to get up early for work or school, or they're given too much homework (or failed to budget their time properly) and were up late finishing a project for school. Even homeschooled teens can be up late texting their friends or playing video games and then get up early with the family and not get enough sleep.

It also might be a general detox symptom; something that will clear itself in time and then the cycle might repeat itself later, even if he's  doing everything "right" and you can't pinpoint the culprit. Since he's been eating right for his type for a while, but wasn't doing so before, he may have some more detoxing to do.
Posted by: wanthanee, Monday, December 17, 2012, 5:36pm; Reply: 8
:D
The name of the book is Prescription for Nutritional Healing: A Practical A-to-Z Reference to Drug-Free Remedies Using Vitamins, Minerals, Herbs and Food Supplements. I got from health food store.

Wow! Barnes & Noble only $ 19.35
http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/prescription-for-nutritional-healing-phyllis-a-balch/1102237570

Amazon: $18.98 but sometime takes too long to ship.
http://www.amazon.com/s?ie=UTF8&page=1&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3Aprescription%20for%20nutritional%20healing
:D
Posted by: Christopher1, Monday, December 17, 2012, 8:46pm; Reply: 9
Overactive immune system...
Posted by: Adopted4, Monday, December 17, 2012, 9:18pm; Reply: 10
"Overactive immune system"???? Does that mean he could be more Explorer than I thought, like his twin brother?

Ruth, I have to say my son has a pretty simple life, for now anyway. He has had a drivers permit for a few weeks, but until he gets a job, will not own a cell phone. Our guidelines for bedtime and daily school schedules are reasonable and flexible for his age and compliant with our states homeschool laws. There have been few occasions of my boys sneaking I-PADS into their rooms to play games at night, but doesn't happen frequently as it's easy enough to know if it is missing in the evening. Consistent lack of sleep will always be evident in behavior and quality of school work.

I do believe his body isn't totally "clean" even though his diet is pretty compliant. He does have some acne issues, and I always wonder when they show up what kind of digestive issue is going on. I think that isn't just a teenage hormone issue and is a reflection of an immune problem.
Posted by: Christopher1, Monday, December 17, 2012, 9:23pm; Reply: 11
Quoted from Adopted4
"Overactive immune system"???? Does that mean he could be more Explorer than I thought, like his twin brother?

Ruth, I have to say my son has a pretty simple life, for now anyway. He has had a drivers permit for a few weeks, but until he gets a job, will not own a cell phone. Our guidelines for bedtime and daily school schedules are reasonable and flexible for his age and compliant with our states homeschool laws. There have been few occasions of my boys sneaking I-PADS into their rooms to play games at night, but doesn't happen frequently as it's easy enough to know if it is missing in the evening. Consistent lack of sleep will always be evident in behavior and quality of school work.

I do believe his body isn't totally "clean" even though his diet is pretty compliant. He does have some acne issues, and I always wonder when they show up what kind of digestive issue is going on. I think that isn't just a teenage hormone issue and is a reflection of an immune problem.


It's hard to tell - but it's possible.
Posted by: ruthiegirl, Monday, December 17, 2012, 10:55pm; Reply: 12
OK, so it sounds like you can rule out serious lack of sleep or excessive stress (boy do I wish I could say the same thing about my oldest right now!)

My best guess at this point is that his body is detoxing some of the toxins he accumulated pre-BTD. Just keep doing what you've been doing and don't worry too much about it. If it's really bothering him, rinsing his eye with saline solution is simple, safe, and effective.
Posted by: purlgirl, Tuesday, December 18, 2012, 2:58am; Reply: 13
Sorry I read every word above.

My eyes get really red and tired.
Some of its allergies and some is the fact that they are mismatched.
One is more distance vision the other is close up.   Together my eyes correct my vision - so I don't have glasses (at least not yet).  But reading is really tiring bc of the constant correction my eyes have to make.  

Also the kind of lighting makes a big dif. Fluorescent lights really bother me.
Posted by: Adopted4, Tuesday, December 18, 2012, 7:30pm; Reply: 14
purlgirl, I haven't heard of a condition such as yours. My other son wears glasses and he has one eye stronger than the other that actually does most of the reading itself. When he was younger we patched his good eye to train the other to work harder on reading, but no optomatrist said one was near-sighted and the other far-sighted.

Ruth, we will try the saline solution for my Nomad son when his eyes become really red, but he's been doing alright the last couple days. We always have saline in the house because my older daughter has an artificial eye and we frequently have to rinse her blind eye to keep it infection-free. My dh and I think that this will help us determine if the condition is environmental, which the saline flushes would help, or perhaps immune related like many of you (and I) suspect.

Thanks for all the help everyone.
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