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Posted by: marjorie, Tuesday, October 30, 2012, 5:28pm
Ok, at this point, I am really starting to give up on fruit. Everytime I eat it, I am annoyed and feel terrible.

Dr.D says it is ok for o's but truthfully, I am ready to give it up for a while.

Also, I am wondering more about the grass fed beef and why the nutritionists do not recommmend eating any beef at all regardless of grass or grain fed.

I am so confused about eating lately. How does one know what is right?

thanks so much

I think the whole Yoga and vegan stuff messes with my head.
Posted by: cajun, Tuesday, October 30, 2012, 6:55pm; Reply: 1
Hi Marjorie!
What fruits are you eating? Do you have any problems with sugar?
Are you eating a balance of your food groups?
Fruit is natures candy for me and I tend to eat a bit too much sometimes but I don't suffer any symptoms, other than guilt. :-/ I try to eat fresh first, then keep dried fruit with nuts in my car for emergencies.

Please don't let the vegan stuff mess you up! You are a hunter!!!!!
My closest friends..literally my 2 "sissas" and a neighbor are all O's that have tried/and sort of follow the BTD. One thing they all agree on is that they need meat! It was never any of their faves but they know this truth, now! ;)
They all also agree that wheat is an enemy and one is trying to quit dairy!
I know one eats bluberries daily and seasonal fruit a few times a week.

Keep us posted and maybe re-read some literature on hunters. ;)
Posted by: Lola, Tuesday, October 30, 2012, 7:05pm; Reply: 2
why follow guidelines not meant for your physiology, genotype or uniqueness?

fruit for me is equivalent to desert!
it is nature s gift to us.......Dr D s guidelines give us a frequency value, according to out physical activity and issues
Posted by: marjorie, Tuesday, October 30, 2012, 7:29pm; Reply: 3
Quoted from Lola
why follow guidelines not meant for your physiology, genotype or uniqueness?

fruit for me is equivalent to desert!
it is nature s gift to us.......Dr D s guidelines give us a frequency value, according to out physical activity and issues


Hi
Nice to hear from you again. I need to step back and really look at what is going on here. I believe in this and I know what is "right" for me, but for some reason, I am struggling lately.

I definitely do not "NEED" the fruit. My swami says 2 a day, but once I stop eating it, then I have no desire to go back to it... does that make sense? For instance, will I be hurting my body if I do not have the fruit?

Also, is it better to not eat anything at all or force myself to eat even if I am not hungry?

Geez, I wonder if being so analytical and critical of myself is a HUNTER trait.

Kindness.... I need to start being kind to myself and listening to what body wants.

Posted by: marjorie, Tuesday, October 30, 2012, 7:30pm; Reply: 4
Quoted from cajun
Hi Marjorie!
What fruits are you eating? Do you have any problems with sugar?
Are you eating a balance of your food groups?
Fruit is natures candy for me and I tend to eat a bit too much sometimes but I don't suffer any symptoms, other than guilt. :-/ I try to eat fresh first, then keep dried fruit with nuts in my car for emergencies.

Please don't let the vegan stuff mess you up! You are a hunter!!!!!
My closest friends..literally my 2 "sissas" and a neighbor are all O's that have tried/and sort of follow the BTD. One thing they all agree on is that they need meat! It was never any of their faves but they know this truth, now! ;)
They all also agree that wheat is an enemy and one is trying to quit dairy!
I know one eats bluberries daily and seasonal fruit a few times a week.

Keep us posted and maybe re-read some literature on hunters. ;)


HI
THank you sooooooooooo much for the incentive. I need it right now. Yes, I am a hunter, and I need to go with this. I was eating plums and pears, but they do not suit me well.

I will write more later, off to class;)
Posted by: san j, Tuesday, October 30, 2012, 7:31pm; Reply: 5
Quoted from marjorie
Ok, at this point, I am really starting to give up on fruit. Everytime I eat it, I am annoyed and feel terrible.

Dr.D says it is ok for o's but truthfully, I am ready to give it up for a while.

Also, I am wondering more about the grass fed beef and why the nutritionists do not recommmend eating any beef at all regardless of grass or grain fed.

I am so confused about eating lately. How does one know what is right?

thanks so much

I think the whole Yoga and vegan stuff messes with my head.


I'd suggest, too, that you stick to fruits from your region, from Colorado/Rockies, and that are seasonal.
Fruit is something of a "balancing" food group; eating it can help you balance your climate and the rest of your diet. Eating tropical fruits in Colorado in mid-Autumn, for instance, might contribute to your unease.
Posted by: san j, Tuesday, October 30, 2012, 7:33pm; Reply: 6
Quoted from marjorie


HI
THank you sooooooooooo much for the incentive. I need it right now. Yes, I am a hunter, and I need to go with this. I was eating plums and pears, but they do not suit me well.

I will write more later, off to class;)

Yeah. Think it all over.

Posted by: AKArtlover, Tuesday, October 30, 2012, 7:35pm; Reply: 7
Quoted from marjorie


why the nutritionists do not recommmend eating any beef at all regardless of grass or grain fed.


my guess is because they are into one size fits all and are buying into cholesterol mania.

grass fed can lower cholesterol, btw.

CLA is nice for mood, abundant in grass fed and finished animals.
Not a great reference, but http://www.livestrong.com/article/497493-the-effect-of-cla-on-anxiety/
http://www.americangrassfedbeef.com/grass-fed-natural-beef.asp
Posted by: AKArtlover, Tuesday, October 30, 2012, 7:53pm; Reply: 8
Quoted from marjorie


I think the whole Yoga and vegan stuff messes with my head.


I don't believe I have met a vegan who hasn't been a bit spacey (including me at the time). I think they easily go deficient in Omega 3's (DHA/EPA) from fish and/or fish oil-- this is what the healthy brain is largely made out of and some can't convert the plant based well. B12 as well.

If you listen to Paleo, you eat a lot of meat and a lot of coconut and no grain and you legitimize bacon in your life.
If you listen to Vegan, you can't eat all local most of the year depending on climate, you never touch a fish and you worry about things like the ethics of honey.

Neither of these rings true to what our ancestors probably really ate- what they had available to them.

Worry is worse than how close you stick to your diet. Do the best you can and learn to listen to your deeper needs. Maybe you don't need fruit right now. Maybe you are too alkaline. Yes, you can be too alkaline.

This diet is about individuality. Dr. D will put you in the ballpark, but he doesn't know everything about you as an individual. You do. It's a matter of sorting out need and desire, quieting the noise from any improper relationships with food and/or cravings by out of balance flora, getting past addictions and blood sugar imbalances, and getting on with life.

Best on your journey. I hope this helps. Just my opinions. Only you truly know the path that is best for you. :K) 8) ;)






Posted by: marjorie, Tuesday, October 30, 2012, 9:00pm; Reply: 9
Quoted from san j


I'd suggest, too, that you stick to fruits from your region, from Colorado/Rockies, and that are seasonal.
Fruit is something of a "balancing" food group; eating it can help you balance your climate and the rest of your diet. Eating tropical fruits in Colorado in mid-Autumn, for instance, might contribute to your unease.


Actually, I am in WI now, and just did not change my profile. I think you have a good point though-thank you
Posted by: marjorie, Tuesday, October 30, 2012, 9:04pm; Reply: 10
Quoted from AKArtlover


I don't believe I have met a vegan who hasn't been a bit spacey (including me at the time). I think they easily go deficient in Omega 3's (DHA/EPA) from fish and/or fish oil-- this is what the healthy brain is largely made out of and some can't convert the plant based well. B12 as well.

If you listen to Paleo, you eat a lot of meat and a lot of coconut and no grain and you legitimize bacon in your life.
If you listen to Vegan, you can't eat all local most of the year depending on climate, you never touch a fish and you worry about things like the ethics of honey.

Neither of these rings true to what our ancestors probably really ate- what they had available to them.

Worry is worse than how close you stick to your diet. Do the best you can and learn to listen to your deeper needs. Maybe you don't need fruit right now. Maybe you are too alkaline. Yes, you can be too alkaline.

This diet is about individuality. Dr. D will put you in the ballpark, but he doesn't know everything about you as an individual. You do. It's a matter of sorting out need and desire, quieting the noise from any improper relationships with food and/or cravings by out of balance flora, getting past addictions and blood sugar imbalances, and getting on with life.

Best on your journey. I hope this helps. Just my opinions. Only you truly know the path that is best for you. :K) 8) ;)



Thank you and YES this helps. I need to quiet the space around me and just stop and breathe a moment. I feel like I am running around all the time and then when I sit to focus on my studies, I am shocked. I feel bloated today and I know it is because of not eating enough protein. I know my body requires it and now it is just psychologically overcoming the fear of being happy.

I guess it about balance because when I was eating too much meat, I was lethargic but when I dont have it, I am out of whack even more.

Time will heal and getting in touch with my natural instints is the key here... I do believe the support here helps. Most of my friends and colleagues do not eat healthy at all or they follow the SAD which is all about CARBS.






Posted by: yaeli, Tuesday, October 30, 2012, 10:36pm; Reply: 11
Quoted from marjorie
Also, I am wondering more about the grass fed beef and why the nutritionists do not recommmend eating any beef at all regardless of grass or grain fed.

I am so confused about eating lately. How does one know what is right?
For me, who was  vegetarian for 17.5 years & had no meat at all for almost 23 years, this is Dr. D's great revolution: Finding that O's "best friend" as it were is no other then beef. Even after resuming meat eating and having assumed BTD/GTD, it took me more than 6 years of checking it out to admit that this is the gospel truth.

Now how does one know what is right? Myself I won't have a shred of understanding before I take a few basic courses in Life Sciences at the Open University, like "the Cell" and basic biochemistry, courses I didn't manage to study in my twenties (I started to study Biology, then changed direction).

Posted by: marjorie, Tuesday, October 30, 2012, 10:58pm; Reply: 12
Quoted from yaeli
For me, who was  vegetarian for 17.5 years & had no meat at all for almost 23 years, this is Dr. D's great revolution: Finding that O's "best friend" as it were is no other then beef. Even after resuming meat eating and having assumed BTD/GTD, it took me more than 6 years of checking it out to admit that this is the gospel truth.

Now how does one know what is right? Myself I won't have a shred of understanding before I take a few basic courses in Life Sciences at the Open University, like "the Cell" and basic biochemistry, courses I didn't manage to study in my twenties (I started to study Biology, then changed direction).



Sure, this makes sense as far as the studies are concerned. I guess it is frustrating and hard to keep my focus when all of my dissertion is on health promotion for individuals with disabilities. Everytime I research PUBMED, I get information on the China Study and how great vegetarianism is... and I was a hard core vegan for about 15 years. I have been doing BTD for about 6 and still I struggle with what I feel best with, but I think it is more psychological than anything.

Also, my confidence level has decreased dramatically and I am not sure why... I guess I am feeling insecure right now, but when I follow BTD I always seem to feel more confident about who I am in general. Of course, the support here helps me out alot. :)

Posted by: yaeli, Tuesday, October 30, 2012, 11:27pm; Reply: 13
Quoted from marjorie
Sure, this makes sense as far as the studies are concerned. I guess it is frustrating and hard to keep my focus when all of my dissertion is on health promotion for individuals with disabilities. Everytime I research PUBMED, I get information on the China Study and how great vegetarianism is...
China Study - great for A's!!! Me O, you A - everybody wins, everybody's happy.

Quoted from marjorie
Also, my confidence level has decreased dramatically and I am not sure why... I guess I am feeling insecure right now, but when I follow BTD I always seem to feel more confident about who I am in general. Of course, the support here helps me out alot. :)
As simple as Dr. D makes it for us, the way is still not easy nor simple. The longer you invest, the cleaner your tissues are, the clearer your mind gets, the stronger you get, the stronger your confidence. Your confidence will grow stronger again - stronger than ever before. Way to go!

Posted by: marjorie, Wednesday, October 31, 2012, 12:40am; Reply: 14
Quoted from yaeli
China Study - great for A's!!! Me O, you A - everybody wins, everybody's happy.

As simple as Dr. D makes it for us, the way is still not easy nor simple. The longer you invest, the cleaner your tissues are, the clearer your mind gets, the stronger you get, the stronger your confidence. Your confidence will grow stronger again - stronger than ever before. Way to go!



Thank you:) I am an O as well, in case you thought I was an A. I am going to make it, I just need to be strong and get rid of the toxic stuff. Luckily, I still ate neutrals and beneficials during my vegan phase, but still need to increase the protein. I came home and had some saute chicken and veggies... felt a little guilty, but going to let it go.

Posted by: yaeli, Wednesday, October 31, 2012, 6:41am; Reply: 15
Quoted from marjorie
Thank you:) I am an O as well, in case you thought I was an A.
By A I meant all A's. By O - all O's, and you, and me.

Quoted from marjorie
I am going to make it, I just need to be strong and get rid of the toxic stuff. Luckily, I still ate neutrals and beneficials during my vegan phase, but still need to increase the protein. I came home and had some saute chicken and veggies... felt a little guilty, but going to let it go.
You'll also allow yourself and get used to kiss this guilt good-bye. BTW, in my Swami
chicken is Neutral, but I learnt to choose turkey, Swami diamond, over it.
Posted by: AKArtlover, Wednesday, October 31, 2012, 1:23pm; Reply: 16
If possible, source your meat from people you can meet and know they are treating the animals appropriately. I love my farmers! Otherwise, just understand that you are more important than the chicken. There is no other being on earth who worries about what to eat (other than obtaining and I wouldn't call that worry- just hunger) or the ethics of what to eat, this is exclusively a human dilemma. My dogs don't even discern between food and non food sometimes- they eat first and ask questions (haha) later.

I believe, as the Bible says, that all of creation is here for us to utilize AND care for. We are the important part of the big picture.

Farm animals would not exist au natural- they would soon die from animal predators. They are here for us and remain here because of us. They fulfill their purpose through either their eggs, their milk, or their flesh. A good steward would utilize every part of the animal to good purpose and raise and care for the animal in the most appropriate way- doing so also enhances the food value. A win-win for people and animals.

Guilt has no place in eating. Thanksgiving, however, does. :)

Joy allows you to receive more nourishment from what you take in. Stress actually blocks your body's utilization.

My 2 cents.
Posted by: Victoria, Wednesday, October 31, 2012, 4:23pm; Reply: 17
Quoted from AKArtlover
If possible, source your meat from people you can meet and know they are treating the animals appropriately. . .

Farm animals would not exist au natural- they would soon die from animal predators. They are here for us and remain here because of us. They fulfill their purpose through either their eggs, their milk, or their flesh. A good steward would utilize every part of the animal to good purpose and raise and care for the animal in the most appropriate way- doing so also enhances the food value. A win-win for people and animals.

Guilt has no place in eating. Thanksgiving, however, does. :)

Joy allows you to receive more nourishment from what you take in. Stress actually blocks your body's utilization.


You made some great points.  I agree!
Posted by: marjorie, Thursday, November 1, 2012, 1:03am; Reply: 18
Quoted from AKArtlover
If possible, source your meat from people you can meet and know they are treating the animals appropriately. I love my farmers! Otherwise, just understand that you are more important than the chicken. There is no other being on earth who worries about what to eat (other than obtaining and I wouldn't call that worry- just hunger) or the ethics of what to eat, this is exclusively a human dilemma. My dogs don't even discern between food and non food sometimes- they eat first and ask questions (haha) later.

I believe, as the Bible says, that all of creation is here for us to utilize AND care for. We are the important part of the big picture.

Farm animals would not exist au natural- they would soon die from animal predators. They are here for us and remain here because of us. They fulfill their purpose through either their eggs, their milk, or their flesh. A good steward would utilize every part of the animal to good purpose and raise and care for the animal in the most appropriate way- doing so also enhances the food value. A win-win for people and animals.

Guilt has no place in eating. Thanksgiving, however, does. :)

Joy allows you to receive more nourishment from what you take in. Stress actually blocks your body's utilization.

My 2 cents.


Wow... talk about REFRAMING:) Thank you, this made sense and much more peaceful feeling about the animals.

One day at a time.. no guilt!
Posted by: AKArtlover, Thursday, November 1, 2012, 2:27am; Reply: 19
Yeah, reframe! ;)

No guilt!(clap)
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