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Posted by: 22822 (Guest), Sunday, October 21, 2012, 5:12pm

I am thinking of trying the blood type diet.  I'm B+, 33 year old female.  

My interest in the BTD is that I have some chronic issues (rosacea since age 20, candida specifically vaginal yeast infections on and off since age 22 when I had really strong dose of antibiotics for infected wisdom tooth, lifelong allergies - dairy, cats, dogs, dust, mould).  

I have some questions because the food database on the website crashes my browser every time I try to click on a food name!!  I can certainly get the book from the library, and I have found some other information/food charts online, but in the meantime, I have some questions about coconut, because i use it frequently.

Coconut oil  - sources I have found say no coconut for type B.  Is that also true of coconut oil?  I would be disappointed to hear it's not good for Bs, because coconut oil both tolerates high heat and I use it to season my cutting board and cast iron wok.

It appears the only beneficial oil for B is olive.  However, don't they say olive is not good for high heat (e.g. stir-frying)?  What oils do type B people here use for cooking?

Also, what about coconut milk - I use a coconut milk based product in my coffee, because I am allergic to dairy and it is the only thing that tastes remotely good.  

Posted by: Lola, Sunday, October 21, 2012, 6:16pm; Reply: 1
try ghee

making it is a breeze
Posted by: Henriette Bsec, Sunday, October 21, 2012, 6:30pm; Reply: 2
Ghee is very good cooking oil and taste amazing.

Some B´s get virgin coconut oil as well depending on genotype.
I do ;)

Try homemade almond or macadamia milk in coffee -that is rather good :)

Can you handle goat or sheep milk- is it lactose or Kassein that is your problem ?

With your history I would do a lot of probitics and fermented veggies to rebuild your stomach.
Posted by: ruthiegirl, Sunday, October 21, 2012, 8:23pm; Reply: 3
In Blood Type Diet, coconut oil is an "avoid" for all types except O non-secretors (or for all types if you're  following Eat Right 4 Your Type, which doesn't differentiate between secretors and non-secretors.) In Genotype Diet (GTD), more factors than just blood type are taken into consideration, and many individuals are able to consume coconut oil. The GTD book (aka "Change Your Genetic Destiny") is also available from most libraries.

SWAMI is the most sophisticated diet of all, but it's also the most expensive and probably isn't necessary for everybody. Many people do very well on either BTD or GTD "by the book" and don't need to invest in a more personalized diet. With SWAMI, some people get coconut oil as beneficial or neutral, while others still get it as an "avoid." This is true for people of many different blood types.

Coconut milk is an avoid for all in BTD and almost all in GTD, although individual SWAMI results may vary.

Most Bs can have milk, and use cow or goat milk in beverages, and cook with butter and/or ghee. Some dairy-allergic individuals can tolerate ghee, while others cannot. You can also cook with the fat from compliant meats, such as turkey and beef.

You could try drinking your coffee black, stop drinking coffee, or try homemade rice or almond milk. The ready-made versions of these tend to have "avoids" in them, plus they tend to be very thin. When making your own, you can make something the consistency of cream rather than milk (by using less water) and then it's creamier in coffee, tea, or hot cocoa.

Remember also that BTD or GTD doesn't have to be "all or nothing." You can keep the coconut milk in your diet for now, if it seems too hard to give it up. You'll still benefit from cutting out chicken, corn, black beans, etc.
Posted by: 22822 (Guest), Sunday, October 21, 2012, 9:19pm; Reply: 4
Thanks Lola and Henriette,

Is ghee OK for someone with a dairy allergy?  

Consuming dairy makes me sneeze/nasal congestion, so I assume it is casein not lactose.  I have less reaction from organic dairy.  A little organic cream in my coffee and I don't have any symptoms, but eating a couple slices of pizza will lead to symptoms.  The worst symptoms are from cheese flavoured nacho chips or popcorn, which I eat maybe once a year and regret it after.  

I seem to not have symptoms from goat or sheep milk/cheese. I had Health Kinesiology (muscle testing-based) done once that said neither cow nor goat milk were OK.  On the other hand, skin testing for allergies did not show a reaction to cow's milk (although I've heard that skin test is more accurate for inhalant allergies than for food allergies)

I assume you recommended homemade almond/macadamia milk because it doesn't have any additives.  Not feeling industrious enough yet to make use of the resulting almond meal (and not liking waste) I think this is one I'd have to gradually work up to.

Probiotics, I have them in my fridge it's just remembering to take them :)  Fermented veggies, I have read about this before and it looks pretty easy, maybe that's where I'll start.

I don't know my genotype yet so I suppose the coconut oil question will have to wait.

Posted by: ABJoe, Sunday, October 21, 2012, 11:01pm; Reply: 5
Quoted from 22822
Is ghee OK for someone with a dairy allergy?

The only dairy part that you get with ghee is the fat, so unless your allergy is to dairy fat, you won't have a problem...

Some "allergies" are due to leaky gut allowing larger, partially undigested food particles to enter the bloodstream.  Often, people who heal the gut also eliminate many allergy symptoms due to the proper particle size being absorbed and utilized, and no longer being overloaded with improperly digested particles.
Posted by: 22822 (Guest), Sunday, October 21, 2012, 11:58pm; Reply: 6
Hi Ruth,

Your response came up while I was replying to the others, so you addressed a couple of questions I had.

I just requested the Genotype Diet book from the library so we'll see what that reveals.  

That's probably where I'll go with this, start by adding more beneficials and avoiding the "big ones" that you mentioned as well as some probiotic/digestive support, and see how it goes.  Thanks for the reminder that this is all a process.  

Quitting coffee, now, that's further down the line :)  
Posted by: 22822 (Guest), Monday, October 22, 2012, 12:15am; Reply: 7
ABJoe, good point about "allergies", I kind of hope that's what it is, so that I don't have to eliminate dairy entirely....

Looks like everyone's pointing at gut healing!  
Posted by: gulfcoastguy, Monday, October 22, 2012, 12:24am; Reply: 8
In the GTD B Nomads have virgin coconut oil as a beneficial.The dairy is a different question. I do best with fermented dairy like yogurt or cheese. Wheat is what will give me nasal congestion.
Posted by: ABJoe, Monday, October 22, 2012, 1:24am; Reply: 9
Quoted from 22822
Looks like everyone's pointing at gut healing!  

This is the first place lectins have opportunity to attack and where all of the nutrient uptake is.  If this isn't working well, at least some part of the rest of the body is not working its best.  In many cases, none of the rest of the body is working well.  

Anyone with problems coming into this lifestyle needs to focus here first - and they realize after some time, that while this healing is taking place, the rest of the body is healing as well.  It just works that way... ;)   ;D
Posted by: 21797 (Guest), Monday, October 22, 2012, 2:16am; Reply: 10
I am a B+ Nomad and my SWAMI says Coconut Oil is a positive.

I was surprised by that too, considering the BTD says Coconut Oil is an avoid.
Posted by: maukik, Monday, October 22, 2012, 2:49am; Reply: 11
I use Rice Bran oil for cooking. It is much better in higher heat.  

I am also trying to treat rosacea.  I just ordered Gastro D from DPN (on the Dadamo website).  I had read where one person mentioned that they had great success using it to treat rosacea.  I am hoping it will help with my digestion, gut issues.  So far, so good!  I like the way my stomach/esophagus feels and it seems to be helping with the red face.  
Posted by: Victoria, Monday, October 22, 2012, 3:11am; Reply: 12
Quoted from gulfcoastguy
In the GTD B Nomads have virgin coconut oil as a beneficial.The dairy is a different question. I do best with fermented dairy like yogurt or cheese. Wheat is what will give me nasal congestion.

I used to use coconut oil via the GTD book for Nomads.  But my SWAMI dropped it to a neutral and honestly, I never felt that great when I ate it.  I do love the taste and aroma, though, especially of a good quality organic one.

No coconut meat for me.  It doesn't digest well and anyway, it's an Avoid/Toxin on my SWAMI.  Although when I was in India years ago and sick with dysentery, fresh coconut with the milk, was one of the few things I could keep down.  It was really different from the dried coconut we find in the stores, however.

No milk for me!   :X  However, homemade goat milk yogurt is a Superfood and I thrive on it.  Also Manchego Cheese (an awesome sheep's milk cheese)  !!   :P  Yum.  Ghee is a daily staple.  

So there is dairy, and there is dairy.  :)
Posted by: Amazone I., Monday, October 22, 2012, 1:07pm; Reply: 13
please remember... BTD and GTD ARE two different systems ;) ;D....(pray)(smarty)(smile)
Posted by: ruthiegirl, Monday, October 22, 2012, 4:57pm; Reply: 14
If you're OK with small amounts of cream, then you should do fine with ghee, probably even with  butter.  Funny how you get very congested from cheese flavored nachos or popcorn- the corn itself is an "avoid" for Bs  and could be causing the mucus all by itself, or the two together could be the culprit.
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