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Posted by: BluesSinger, Thursday, October 18, 2012, 11:27am
Other than all the BTD supp's I've just started to take to help relief the almost continual joint pain I'm now having as my body starts its healing process due to my new Swami compliancy... I found this site:  

http://www.do-it-yourself-joint-pain-relief.com/joint-pain-relief-techniques.html

what do you all think?  Anyone tried any of this?  

I mean I didn't realize how much pain I've been living with all these years.  Getting off junk food and feeling great mentally and emotionally is fantastic.. but now I've got immense pain going on.  As talked about in another thread, it's got to be the healing process as my body begins to release cells full of toxins, etc., etc.  

I used to have a sauna but I don't now.  After we re-locate, I'll get another one as I swear by them.
Posted by: Lola, Thursday, October 18, 2012, 2:57pm; Reply: 1
do try the trehalose complex....cellular cleansing at its best

are you taking the deflect?

bromelain......adding bone broth and good fats.....

have you seen the online protocols?
Posted by: BluesSinger, Thursday, October 18, 2012, 3:31pm; Reply: 2
i've just started all that Lola!  :)
Posted by: Goldie, Thursday, October 18, 2012, 5:58pm; Reply: 3
did you get my email.. or was my computer access not on?? let me know..
Posted by: Amazone I., Thursday, October 18, 2012, 8:03pm; Reply: 4
I've got lately a left knee problem..couldn't move nor walk whithin minutes for several days...a complete bloquage :-/ :o :(.... took a mix of chondroitin&glucosamin
sulph. & largest amounts of boswellia serrate... inc. PT-tens-technique....but it was merely under my left patella...very anoying... :B(eek)(verymad)(mad).... but then after 3 days all was gone....what a release...(ondrugs)
Posted by: BluesSinger, Thursday, October 18, 2012, 8:32pm; Reply: 5
Quoted from Goldie
did you get my email.. or was my computer access not on?? let me know..


you talking to me Goldie?  if so.. no I did not get your message...
Posted by: Goldie, Friday, October 19, 2012, 12:57pm; Reply: 6
for pain look also at magnesium gel .. if you can not find it, oil might work as well..

Yes I sent another Blues Singer
Posted by: RedLilac, Sunday, October 21, 2012, 3:45pm; Reply: 7
I just bookmarked that site.  Yesterday my Core fitness instructor substitute was the Boot Camp Instructor.   My neck is in pain.  So I’m going to try out his techniques.  Thanks.

The reason my normal fitness instructor wasn’t there and they had to find a substitute in a hurry was because she was in the hospital.  She has one lung collapsed and the other lung has a blood clot in it.  She just turned 60 last week.  She doesn’t smoke and rarely has a drink.  She teaches fitness at the park district, works as a physical therapist somewhere, works as a massage therapist at a chiropractic office and does private massages.  So she definitely isn’t a stationary person.  She’s not overweight.  I just shake my head in wonder how someone so physically fit could have a blood clot.
Posted by: Goldie, Sunday, October 21, 2012, 4:04pm; Reply: 8
For joint pain I would use Magnesium gel (order from me via PM) or any other Magnesium you can apply ...

In my book IT lubricates the muscles and sinuses and whatever connection to the bone tissue... Use it to prevent tearing and scarring.. use it even when not needed.. if the knees hurt use it, if the back hurts, use it one DROP at a rub.. this is cheap medicine..

Also look at other mineral supplementation.. like Manganese which works for body pain..but pm me for dosage..  ..



To your question about why the blood clot... because :  SHE is not doing BTD!!!!!! yes that is the answer..

once you get it that BTD in all the books or all the way to swami, is designed to make the difference in HEALTH..!!  YES I believe that..!


I may have cancer just now, will find out tomorrow.. but no matter.. NO MATTER what will be the outcome, without BTD I would be sick, in pain, weak, suicidal, scared, worried, lost, frustrated, feeling lost..

I AM NONE of those! ... only because of BTD.

Will I survive a cancer?  I have no idea.. but I KNOW that I HAVE a CHANCE!  with BTD to do the best I can.. to be well for as long as my life will let me live.  If I am going to be in need of saving my life, I will only be able to do it KNOWING that I have the TOOLS to do it.

I might get up at 4:30 in the morning to do a fresh air walk since I think that to be good for cancer.. I might start MMS, (ask me) and I might do on operation but not chemo.. only because I have tools to eat right, to build ME UP with food.. I might juice more and do high or low enemas as that all will be, in my opinion, the best way to fight a cancer.. or illness, and I will live my life to the fullest. I will NEVER NEED to be afraid.. because of BTD..

EXERCISES alone are not enough, I have seen toooooo many who drop dead being totally fit.. exercise is draining some peoples health when they over due.. and kill their body.. because of ignorance!!! or because they never listened to any one about BTD ...   YES!    

BTD ROCKS!!!  

Sorry if I went off topic.. ............ wow I just typed this with only one mistyping.. (If I made great grammar errors someone please tell me.. thanks...)

Posted by: Chloe, Sunday, October 21, 2012, 5:15pm; Reply: 9
http://www.i-flextoday.com/why-i-flex/ingredients

This is 100% rose hips. Don't know if it is compliant for you...  Works great for me!
Posted by: RedLilac, Monday, October 22, 2012, 12:30am; Reply: 10
Goldie:  I hope you don’t have cancer, but if you do, you’re a fighter.  My instructor probably eats what she thinks is healthy, but does not follow the BTD.  

BluesSinger:  Thanks for the link.  I tried the techniques & it cured my neck pain.  If I lay down, it hurt to get up & if I bent forward it hurt to straighten up.  Now no pain.
Posted by: BluesSinger, Monday, October 22, 2012, 1:16am; Reply: 11
Quoted from RedLilac
Goldie:  I hope you don’t have cancer, but if you do, you’re a fighter.  My instructor probably eats what she thinks is healthy, but does not follow the BTD.  

BluesSinger:  Thanks for the link.  I tried the techniques & it cured my neck pain.  If I lay down, it hurt to get up & if I bent forward it hurt to straighten up.  Now no pain.


wow.. i'm headed over now to work on my thumb joints... thank you for the testimony. Goldie.. I hope you don't have cancer!   :B

Posted by: Amazone I., Monday, October 22, 2012, 8:05am; Reply: 12
Goldie shatzala, how did it came that you're speaking about chances to have got cancer??) Did you made any tests ....and if so please remember that nonnieness leads to irelevant outputs in medical testings !!! I've told you once  that I was also tested positive for ca and in reality nada was there ....I only was shocked how those cane be that cruel to play such games with people... >:( this was the beginnings of my doubtfulness against all MD's !!!
Then I intensifyed my educative work in natural healings and so that helped me out of the negative situation in not understanding what happens with and in my body.....
expressis verbis as being a highly sensitive explorer.....even todays when unsane
intentions of geneticans try to make me believe whatever... nope it's my who will take care of myselve and nobody else............. :K) from Isa  :D
Posted by: Jane, Monday, October 22, 2012, 4:45pm; Reply: 13
Goldie,
OMG, I hope that isn't your diagnosis.  You are a fighter.  You are in my thoughts and prayers.
Jane
Posted by: ruthiegirl, Monday, October 22, 2012, 4:53pm; Reply: 14
RedLilac- how scary about your yoga instructor. I have to wonder if she was a B or AB who ate a lot of chicken- clearly something in her diet wasn't right.

Goldie- I'll keep you in my prayers.
Posted by: Goldie, Monday, October 22, 2012, 5:27pm; Reply: 15
Hey Thanks all--  but I will be ok.. will keep you posted -- but I am ok..

THE lesson here is that one (even teachers in school or gym centers, all can think one is eating so called healthy and still do all IMPROTANT things wrong.. Like A's doing tooooo much execise.. or eating so called healthy food plans.. or be vegetarian if being O' s .. so much could go wrong..
Posted by: Amazone I., Monday, October 22, 2012, 9:05pm; Reply: 16
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Posted by: ABJoe, Monday, October 22, 2012, 9:32pm; Reply: 17
Quoted from RedLilac
I just shake my head in wonder how someone so physically fit could have a blood clot.

Excessive avoid lectin intake agglutinates blood???
Posted by: Chloe, Monday, October 22, 2012, 9:42pm; Reply: 18
Quoted from Goldie
Hey Thanks all--  but I will be ok.. will keep you posted -- but I am ok..

THE lesson here is that one (even teachers in school or gym centers, all can think one is eating so called healthy and still do all IMPROTANT things wrong.. Like A's doing tooooo much execise.. or eating so called healthy food plans.. or be vegetarian if being O' s .. so much could go wrong..


You ARE OK and you will be OK! :)

{{{hugs}}}}}

Posted by: cajun, Tuesday, October 23, 2012, 3:48am; Reply: 19
You go Goldie! ;) I love your great attitude! :K) Still, you are in my thoughts and prayers, also!  8)
Posted by: wanthanee, Tuesday, October 23, 2012, 8:19am; Reply: 20
:D Hi Goldie, You are in my thoughts and prayers.

“THINKING POSITIVE IS ALWAY THE BEST”

After I read the book of Live right, I was worried because there are so many diseases that every blood type can catch.

I would like to share a true story of something that happened with a friend of mine:

My friend and his wife were both long time smokers. At that time he was a hunter in the forest.   One day his wife wasn’t feeling very good.  She went to see the doctor and was told she has TB.  Then her husband went for a checkup also.  It turns out that he also had TB at the same time. The Doctor told him to take pills but he didn’t want to accept the doctor’s treatment.  He just came home and became a vegetarian.  He quit being a hunter and he just thought all the time, “I do not have TB.  I never had TB, and I never will have TB. I am strong!”

After 2 years he went to see the Doctor for another checkup.  This time he didn’t have TB anymore. That was a surprise.  

The power of the mind can be a very wonderful thing!

Love and always love your posts! ((((BIG HUG)))  ;D
Posted by: Goldie, Tuesday, October 23, 2012, 3:40pm; Reply: 21
Thanks all .. thanks.. Goldie..

BUT the question was about how to consider BTD for survivors of any serious illness..

Yes thinking is so important .. I have not been the same (depressed thinking) since I took the Trehalose Complex.. IT has changed the way I see the world.. it cleaned out old cobwebs from my thinking brain.. I would have you look at the thread about Trehalose wow by Spring.. it is endless but you would get the feeling for it soon enough and it is cheap by other standards.. I took it for several month and still take it .. not as religious.. but I will certainly start again as soon as I have the results .. day after tomorrow..

I have wonderful images on U-tube to follow and I had learned many years ago to deal with my inner life thinking .. all will come to life if I need it and even if I don't.. .. the need and the good results are always there.. even in the unseen hidden things affecting our body/mind..

I liked the story above.. a good mantra.. a good saying.. love it!  I like that he gave up HUNTING as that could be as much on issue emotionally / cosmically as any other factor, even if there is nothing wrong with hunting for food not sport.. .. follow the inner voice and learn, allow new methods and thinking to take root.. Trehalose Complex helped to do that much easier!!!  


Posted by: 815 (Guest), Tuesday, October 23, 2012, 6:55pm; Reply: 22
I take glucosamine, chondroitin and MSM together in one capsule. That always worked best for me..
Posted by: Mrs T O+, Wednesday, October 24, 2012, 12:59pm; Reply: 23
That tart cherry juice helps, too, but it can be expensive if you are on a tight budget.
I now live near a Vitamin Shoppe that has this juice & use it sometimes. I have a bad stubbed toe from the year 2000 that has a little pain. When I take the cherry juice for a while, it goes away.

It is interesting to note that joint pain is often from eating incorrectly as well as injury.
Posted by: PCUK-Positive, Wednesday, October 24, 2012, 1:13pm; Reply: 24
Quoted from 815
I take glucosamine, chondroitin and MSM together in one capsule. That always worked best for me..


Dr D mentions in his book about that mix being ok for A's but similar to a blood transfusion if taken by O's something like that.
Posted by: BluesSinger, Wednesday, October 24, 2012, 3:44pm; Reply: 25
Quoted from PCUK-Positive


Dr D mentions in his book about that mix being ok for A's but similar to a blood transfusion if taken by O's something like that.


Yes I am very aware of that - glad you mentioned it here... I only take the Glucosamine that Dr. D. Recommends for O's.
Posted by: Goldie, Wednesday, October 24, 2012, 5:30pm; Reply: 26
Ok.. my test is in..  I am fit as a fiddle- all was negative- and test are all ok.. Thanks all Goldie..
Posted by: PCUK-Positive, Wednesday, October 24, 2012, 11:38pm; Reply: 27
:)
Posted by: wanthanee, Thursday, October 25, 2012, 7:44pm; Reply: 28
Quoted from Goldie
Ok.. my test is in..  I am fit as a fiddle- all was negative- and test are all ok.. Thanks all Goldie..


:K) :D ;D CHAI YO! Golddie, I am so glad and relieved.

"This is the only body I have, so "I am going to love it, and I am going to take care of it."
I am likely going to eat better and exercise and make sure get good sleep and can deal with stressors."

;D I still work on it.

Poor my body  :'(...... before I know BTD I feed my body with chilis and tomatos....often.....
I never know that I harmful my body. I am so grateful and THANK YOU VERY MUCH DR. PETER!





Posted by: RedLilac, Friday, October 26, 2012, 8:41pm; Reply: 29
Quoted from Goldie
Ok.. my test is in..  I am fit as a fiddle- all was negative- and test are all ok.. Thanks all Goldie..


So glad to hear! (sunny)(clap)(dance)(shrug)(woot)
Posted by: san j, Friday, October 26, 2012, 9:51pm; Reply: 30
There are many possible reasons for joint pain.
Bone pain is a very frequent and debilitating symptom of some metastatic cancer and can be intractable. Would that glucosamine could relieve it, but, alas, these people may even have to use epidural anaesthesia.

There are many levels of many health problems.
There are those we can self-treat easily, and we're all thrilled when we discover this. We share the remedies frequently here on the site, especially as they relate to Dr. D'Adamo's work.

I'm so glad Dr. D'Adamo is a proponent of complementary Medicine, believing in the use of modalities that include his own original research, the findings of other "alternative" researchers and practitioners, and those of allopathic medicine. I like his approach.

We all have to pick and choose, for ourselves, which options to pursue, at every step along the way.
Posted by: Goldie, Saturday, October 27, 2012, 10:40am; Reply: 31
Joint Pain is different from bone pain..

Joint pain may just need a drop of Magnesium to feed the connective tissue of muscles.. one drop of magnesium gel worked for me..

Headaches may be from lack of Magnesium..  the brain is controlled by muscle also.

2 capsules of manganese might remove pain because we lack or do not retain Manganese.. (Standard process Ligaplex ll from any chiro or DO.. take as often as needed.

persistent joint pain gives you 2 choices..

1) you can avoid biting the bullet (not knowing) and do all sort of things to TRY and fix it.  

2) or get Prolo Therapy and be fixed..

PM me for details.. been there done that.. spent thousands and suffered because I did not know!!

  
Posted by: san j, Saturday, October 27, 2012, 7:11pm; Reply: 32
Quoted from Goldie
Joint Pain is different from bone pain..

And joint pain, too, can have any number of causes.
There are nerve root disorders that manifest in joint pain. So-called Tennis Elbow can be one of these. A "carpal tunnel" sort of syndrome manifests in wrist pain. Shoulder pain can be due to Thoracic Outlet Syndrome, a compression of the brachial plexus that is actually occuring in the neck. And, yes, neck pain itself. Attending to the painful joint itself does not necessarily solve the problem, here.

Joint pain that is caused by trauma to a joint should be investigated to rule out fractures and tears that may require surgical attention. In the case of more minor injuries, the ol' RICE is very effective, sometimes with anti-inflammatory meds, but magnesium is definitely worth a try in musculoskeletal injury - I've had success with it. The application of anti-inflammatory and anti-spasmodic substances, such as essential oil of Roman Chamomile (diluted in olive oil), can soothe the body's hyper-reactivity to the injury.

There are pain syndromes that have people on heavy medication, long-term, just to make it through a day. My heart goes out to these people.
Thankfully, there is also now a specialty in Medicine called "Pain Management", and modalities other than drugs are preferred unless the patient is in so much pain (or has a contraindicating condition) s/he can't pursue those alternatives. It's good that Medicine is looking at them. It's also good the drugs are there, to elevate Quality of Life for those who need them.

Yes, there are not only different types of pain; there are also degrees of pain. The ability to verbally describe pain - both quantitatively and qualitatively - is an evolving art in Medicine, laden with pitfalls and room for misunderstanding.
Posted by: BluesSinger, Tuesday, October 30, 2012, 12:01pm; Reply: 33
Well years ago i had an xray of my thumb joints and the doc said there was nothing there.  my chiro then told me it was most likely calcium build up and when i do take calcium supp's i get more pain there.

the pain i have is a radiating throbbing pain.  it does not happen all the time.  but when it comes on it really is very irritating and worries me.

many times now I cannot grasp things without pain shooting through the thumb joints and my grasp is weak because of it.

so that's the kind of pain i have.   :'(
Posted by: Bekki Shining Bearheart, Wednesday, December 12, 2012, 6:00pm; Reply: 34
Goldie, I am inspired by your attitude.

As an environmental activist I always look at cancer  as an environmental illness. I totally believe in the diets for helping heal everything-- it has really worked for me. I know it-- and a positive attitude can work for you.

I just want to say that one of the pieces of the puzzle so many people forget about in healing from diseases, especially with the immune system-- if we poison our world, we poison ourselves. So I aim for minimizing the environmental factors-- so many body care products and cleaning products are toxic. So I only use environmentally safe ones. And I think about where my food really comes from... no animals fed on GMOs, etc.
Posted by: Melissa_J, Friday, December 14, 2012, 3:25am; Reply: 35
BluesSinger- I'm new to an old thread here, but did you add any new grains or increase any in particular after getting your SWAMI?  Even compliant grains can cause problems like arthritis.

Vitamin K can help with calcium buildup.
Posted by: PCUK-Positive, Friday, December 14, 2012, 1:27pm; Reply: 36
I would give your cocoa a miss to reduce oxalic acid oxo if you drink black tea i would stop that too
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