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Posted by: Victoria, Monday, October 15, 2012, 4:56pm
I'm seriously considering having my one root canal tooth removed and replaced by a dental implant.  It's a big decision and I would appreciate your thoughts and experiences.  I'm especially interested in hearing from those of you who have had them done.

There is now the option in some places of Zirconium OR Titanium.  Have any of you gotten a Zirconium one?
Posted by: Amazone I., Monday, October 15, 2012, 5:03pm; Reply: 1
:o :-/ ;D ;D soo sweet half of mine... I'm in need of muchmore... :P :D :o(funny)(funny)(shrug)btw... I never would go for implants in not having tested em  if I'd be able to support em !!! Here bioresonance responses are nothing but great ....how do you think I've solved my problem of last year ??) ;) ;D... :X(hehe)
Posted by: Goldie, Monday, October 15, 2012, 5:21pm; Reply: 2
I have several implants where will your's be? Location matters as the gums can and will shrink and be visible when smiling..

I also have many rootcanals and have no issues .    

is money of interest?

what else is happening in your mouth.. do you have the cash for more work?  when it is needed as it will sooner or later..  
Posted by: Jane, Monday, October 15, 2012, 5:56pm; Reply: 3
As I said in the other thread, I'm in the process.  Mine are both lowers.  I've already had the grafts and one was completed during the summer and the other is due to be completed at the end of October.  After a few weeks, the tooth almost feels like a normal tooth.  You just have to be meticulous about cleaning around the crown with floss and I also use the soft pics. The whole process ended up taking over a year for me - partially because I kept putting it off.  First the extractions, then you have to wait for that to heal and then the grafts and then they put in the posts, then wait some more, then the impressions and finally the crowns.  I had the teeth extracted by an oral surgeon, the grafts done by the periodontist and the crowns made by my regular dentist.  It's very expensive but hopefully worth every penny.  So far so good.
Jane

Posted by: BluesSinger, Monday, October 15, 2012, 7:49pm; Reply: 4
Quoted from Jane
As I said in the other thread, I'm in the process.  Mine are both lowers.  I've already had the grafts and one was completed during the summer and the other is due to be completed at the end of October.  After a few weeks, the tooth almost feels like a normal tooth.  You just have to be meticulous about cleaning around the crown with floss and I also use the soft pics. The whole process ended up taking over a year for me - partially because I kept putting it off.  First the extractions, then you have to wait for that to heal and then the grafts and then they put in the posts, then wait some more, then the impressions and finally the crowns.  I had the teeth extracted by an oral surgeon, the grafts done by the periodontist and the crowns made by my regular dentist.  It's very expensive but hopefully worth every penny.  So far so good.
Jane



this is good to read Jane.  I've got a lower bottom left that needs to be implanted.  already had it pulled. I've been putting it off cause of finances so i went to the doc to make sure it was ok to put off for another several months and he said it would be.  but what i'm deathly afraid of is the pain and then the pain meds.  can you go into more of that part?  thanks so much.
Posted by: Andrea AWsec, Monday, October 15, 2012, 8:12pm; Reply: 5
Need one too-- been putting it off as well.


:-/


I just added a flexspending account to my health care options hoping it can cover most of the implant. Extraction and bone seeding are done--.

I had an infection in the tooth it had a root canal done about 10 years ago.
Posted by: Victoria, Monday, October 15, 2012, 8:37pm; Reply: 6
Jane, thanks for the details.  I appreciate it!  Do you have to go under the crown with the floss or does the crown sit snugly against the gum like a regular crown?

BluesSinger and Andrea, maybe we'll go through it together, eh?  ;)
Posted by: BluesSinger, Monday, October 15, 2012, 10:00pm; Reply: 7
Quoted from Victoria
Jane, thanks for the details.  I appreciate it!  Do you have to go under the crown with the floss or does the crown sit snugly against the gum like a regular crown?

BluesSinger and Andrea, maybe we'll go through it together, eh?  ;)


ha ha.. that's too much!!!  
Posted by: PCUK-Positive, Monday, October 15, 2012, 10:34pm; Reply: 8
I spent a couple of thousand pounds on one (implant) ten years ago and wish I hadn't now.

I have several root canals done ages ago, , one cap fell off a short while ago, I'm leaving it off and going natural. As my filligs fall out, i'm leaving them as they are, antur will sort them one way or the other lol - I think people lived better with just dentures.
Posted by: BHealthy, Tuesday, October 16, 2012, 3:05am; Reply: 9
Quoted from Victoria
There is now the option in some places of Zirconium OR Titanium.  Have any of you gotten a Zirconium one?

One of the holistic dentists I contacted when I was researching my options told me that she has a way of testing each material for immunological bio-compatibility.  I can't find her website but here's an explanation of the protocol: http://www.biodentistrydrvizcarra.com/?s=8&sub=1

Perhaps Dr. D. will comment on the validity of this protocol.  Some people think it's hogwash.

http://www.toxicteeth.org/dentistsDoctorsProducts.aspx can help you find a holistic dentist in your area.

Before you take the plunge, consider this:

Years ago, a dental hack convinced me to have a root canal and crown on a back molar.  He had a lot of trouble installing the crown (he really was incompetent and I never went back to him) and my current dentist tells me that the tooth is now cracked and needs to be replaced with an implant.  

A small fistula in the gum next to the tooth is being used as evidence that there is an infection in the tooth.  Because of the fistula, the infection has an avenue to exit my body which is why, they are telling me, I have no pain or swelling.

This fistula is usually a 1/8th inch round hard white bump that, when it reaches a certain size, bursts when I brush and I bleed a little.  It always grows back.

The last time the fistula broke, several days ago, I started dribbling some ionic gold onto it and so far, it has not grown back.  I'm hoping that the gold will cure the infection and I will not need an implant.

Victoria, is there any way you could heal your tooth rather than replace it?  

Posted by: Victoria, Tuesday, October 16, 2012, 5:32am; Reply: 10
Quoted from BHealthy

Victoria, is there any way you could heal your tooth rather than replace it?  



The tooth is already dead and has had a root canal + crown for the past 12 years.  So there is no way to heal a dead tooth.  ;)

I want to get the root canal taken out because I am convinced that they are not good for the health.  
Posted by: Amazone I., Tuesday, October 16, 2012, 6:34am; Reply: 11
Victoria why not using a sort of *bridge* or crown instead ??)Replacing the tooth with
ceramic or another material ??) perhaps for only one tooth better and when needed later... go for a complete work of 4-6 implants but then the whole dentier will be fixed correctly ;) ;D...... this is what I've to seek for soon .... :P
Posted by: Goldie, Tuesday, October 16, 2012, 10:34am; Reply: 12
OK ...so all have been all over the place.. I have the most experience: I have much work to talk about and worked in a dental office for 10 years as chair side assistant..

ROOT canals are a good way to prolong the position of a tooth in the mouth.done only when a nerve becomes inflamed and or is dead.. a root canaled tooth will turn dark. but prevent most often any further gum infections.. root canaled teeth will dry out over many years and most often need a crown for looks or to prevent shattering under pressure..

when you extract a tooth and wait to replace it.. the other teeth will shift and cause more issues.. replacing a tooth is important in as short a time as possible.. not only the teeth next to the pulled tooth will move but the opposing tooth will grow up or down trying to fill the space.. endangering that tooth also..

your mouth deserves good hygiene no matter when.. using a water-pick is always a good thing.

using toothpaste that is for pain (Sensodine paste ) will help if only the tooth is only sensitive..

For gums health use Mirrh oil or salt or a little poraxide in water and swish to release oxygen then spit out ( only 6 weeks at a time)  

a tooth should never be felt on biting.. if you feel it see your dentist and have him see what is going on.. if he just replaced a filling sometimes one can take on emery board and file a SMALL area for JUST a LITTLE bit.. BUT remember the mouth feels a little difference as if it where a bolder!  Teeth at all time should fit even.. biting on one tooth first will kill the root..

Implants and crowns always require good hygiene and much ongoing considerations.. the fact that the gums often recede is most important to KNOW if one is doing front teeth.. back teeth matter less as one can see them less..

NOT dealing with teeth is ridiculous.. even a mouth full of plastic for dentures is no fun.. it can be painful for a time and often requires paste to keep the teeth from falling out.. not to mention the ridiculous looking mouth without teeth.. I MEAN,,,  let's not expose all of us with teeth to the way one would look without..  

We do not live in a time when we can not work to prevent ROOT losses.. replacing any tooth/crown is IMPORTANT to your CHEWING masticating health long before food enters the belly.

The cost of tooth neglect is costly as it will cost issues further down..  

Yes sometimes pain is associated with the work before the end of the work to be done for implants... yet, Tylenol is enough when pain killers are needed.. take as needed for a few days.. plan time off from work so that you can sleep when needed for a day or two.. work can also cause swelling of the face... for a few days..

My gums hurt for ten years.. until they had receded and still do.. someday I will need to implant bone- but that is another whole discussion.. I am lucky, my gums are not visible when I talk nor when I smile.. My implants- the screws are in perfect order.. and the crowns are good also, I am much happier with my teeth in then not.. but it takes money!   But so do false teeth.



  
Posted by: BluesSinger, Tuesday, October 16, 2012, 11:20am; Reply: 13
Thanks alot Goldie!!!! That pretty much sums it up!!!
Posted by: PCUK-Positive, Tuesday, October 16, 2012, 11:32am; Reply: 14
Hi Goldie Darling, Root canals are not a good way to preserve anything, they are just plain wrong.

all the other info you have there is like it was written by a dentist. lol

for thousands of years people managed without all that rubbish, it is only it the last few hundred years that the dentist bandwagon was used to make money from people.

I'm not saying don't be hygienic - I clean my teeth often but I only use bicarb and salt and hydrogen peroxide.

I am fairly convinced that if I had not gone to any dentist i may well have ll my own teeth still - if I had eaten BTD of course.

since I stopped using normal toothpaste I no longer have pain in my teeth hardly ever, unless i eat sweets.

Posted by: Goldie, Tuesday, October 16, 2012, 12:10pm; Reply: 15
PC.. the people used to die about the same time their teeth needed more attention :'(/// I hope you will not be one of them.. :X

Naturally when the Hunter Gatherers ate like BTD they had no problems..  ;D

It's the dentist who needs a new car that is dangerous..  8)

I personally think prevention is best..  :K)
Posted by: Andrea AWsec, Thursday, June 13, 2013, 11:51am; Reply: 16
Made my appointment for my implant July 1--
Posted by: jeanb, Thursday, June 13, 2013, 12:05pm; Reply: 17
I have had quite a few friends who have had implants.  The ones done in the past 2 years seem to be simply amazing, the ones done quite a few years ago had issues.  I think the technology is changing and getting better.

Some of my friends had bad teeth from neglect and smoking, I don't understand not taking care of teeth at all...but then they got implants and they simply look fantastic now.

I have also had quite a few friends who went to Mexico to get their teeth done for about 25% of the price in Canada and have been extremely pleased with the work.

PC, I had a perfect tooth get ripped from its root by getting hit with ball to the mouth.  Had pain off and on in my lower jaw for years (dentists couldn't find the source of pain).  When the tooth finally started changing color, they were able to find the source of the pain, did a root canal and voila, no pain, no infection.  Tooth is still hard.

My father had beautiful teeth, perfectly straight and white with no cavities until he died.  I think he got the great genes for teeth.
Posted by: Amazone I., Thursday, June 13, 2013, 12:34pm; Reply: 18
would you mind to get informed by http://www.live-without-pain.com by Simon King, here he comes with newest techniques and other infos about dental work...(pray)(smartyp)
Posted by: Jane, Thursday, June 13, 2013, 3:52pm; Reply: 19
So far everything is great with the implants.  I'd never had a root canal.  Dentist tells me I might need a crown or two but I'm waiting because the cost was so high for the implants.  I don't have dental insurance but I was told it would have contributed much in any case.  
I am extemely disciplined about taking care of my teeth now.  I use the soft pics, then floss (and yes, I so go slightly under them to make sure nothing gets stuck there) and I use an electric toothbrush.  Just had a checkup and cleaning and they were very impressed with my aftercare.  It took a while to get used to them but now I don't even think about them. They just feel like teeth but don't hurt!
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