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Posted by: EatToLive, Thursday, October 11, 2012, 1:35am
I can't believe how much my Swami changed my diet now that I tested positive for non-secretor. I am happy with most of the changes, but confused on some others:

Maple syrup used to be a neutral and so was stevia. Now Maple syrup and stevia are on the avoid list. Anybody know the reasons behind this?

I used to be able to have green olives and Kalamata olives, but now Kalamata olives are not listed anywhere and green olives are now on the avoid list. Why? Are there any kind of olives I can have?

I used to be able to eat oats, oat bran, but now they are on the avoid list. If I buy the certified gluten free oats, can I still eat them?

I used to be able to have Mozzerella cheese, but now it's on the avoid list. Any explanation for this?

I lost my favorite gluten free grain: Buckwheat too!

It's strange that I can have coconut oil but not coconut meat or coconut milk?

And I still cannot figure out why Tamari sauce (wheat free) is on the avoid list? What would be a good replacement?
Posted by: ABJoe, Thursday, October 11, 2012, 1:53am; Reply: 1
Nonnies are affected by sugars - probably the reason behind maple syrup and stevia...

I would say that if oats are avoid, then it doesn't matter if they are gluten-free...

Don't know about Mozz or buckwheat.

COil is majorly different than the milk or meat.  It doesn't surprise me, I can only use the oil as well...
Posted by: Victoria, Thursday, October 11, 2012, 3:28am; Reply: 2
It all makes sense to me, knowing my own non-secretor body as I do.  Although I don't know the specific reasons why your ratings are the way they are.  But I do best with NO added sweeteners of any kind and very minimal grains.  A couple of lightly toasted rice cakes daily is all I eat from that category.  Oats mess up my blood sugar level so I'm better off without them.

Non-secretors gain major benefits from a high level of compliance.  I consider myself very fortunate to have access to that particular test.
Posted by: Lola, Thursday, October 11, 2012, 5:33am; Reply: 3
be happy you are not a Lewis Double Negative like me!!! ;)

as to the whys.....
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Posted by: Averno, Thursday, October 11, 2012, 11:12am; Reply: 4
Quoted from Victoria
Non-secretors gain major benefits from a high level of compliance.  I consider myself very fortunate to have access to that particular test.


I think this can't be emphasized too strongly. I went from high metabolic syndrome to mid-normal glucose numbers in the space of 6 months on this diet.
Posted by: EatToLive, Thursday, October 11, 2012, 6:43pm; Reply: 5
Quoted from Lola
be happy you are not a Lewis Double Negative like me!!! ;)



Lewis Double Negative? I don't even know what that is......Where can I find out about that?
Posted by: EatToLive, Thursday, October 11, 2012, 6:53pm; Reply: 6
Quoted from ABJoe
Nonnies are affected by sugars - probably the reason behind maple syrup and stevia...



Well, that probably explains why I have suffered with a sugar addiction my whole life! I'm in recovery!  :-/

I can't eliminate all sweeteners from my diet completely, I wouldn't want to! If you take away all the sweetness from life (my diet) then life is not worth living, and eating has lost all of it's pleasure.

Here, I thought I was doing pretty well sticking to natural sweetners: Stevia, coconut palm sugar, Xylitol, Erythritol, Honey, Yacon Root powder, Lucuma, etc.  It's pretty depressing to think I must give up all sweeteners to be perfectly healthy! Any thoughts on this?
Posted by: Drea, Thursday, October 11, 2012, 6:59pm; Reply: 7
Quoted from EatToLive

Here, I thought I was doing pretty well sticking to natural sweetners: Stevia, coconut palm sugar, Xylitol, Erythritol, Honey, Yacon Root powder, Lucuma, etc.  It's pretty depressing to think I must give up all sweeteners to be perfectly healthy! Any thoughts on this?


Do you get any sweeteners on your SWAMI?
Posted by: JJR, Thursday, October 11, 2012, 7:47pm; Reply: 8
You don't get honey?

Sugar is the one category of food that has given me major problems.  Dairy too.  But I'm not a nonnie.  

I have finally worked into eating a teaspoon of honey a day.  And a little bit of dark chocolate.  But I avoided all sugars for a while.  Once you do it, you don't miss it.  I used to be a junk food junkie, so believe me, I know what it's like to be addicted to sweets.  
Posted by: EatToLive, Thursday, October 11, 2012, 8:11pm; Reply: 9
Quoted from Drea


Do you get any sweeteners on your SWAMI?


Just blackstrap molasses now. Yuck! Honey is a black dot and Agave.  I know that the commercially prepared agave is just like eating high fructose corn syrup, it is so highly processed. I do have a source that sells RAW organic agave online, but I find that agave is still too sweet and causes blood sugar problems for me.

I sure would like to know how Stevia leaf (I buy it in leaf form) could be bad for anybody?
Posted by: ABJoe, Thursday, October 11, 2012, 11:56pm; Reply: 10
Quoted from EatToLive
I know that the commercially prepared agave is just like eating high fructose corn syrup, it is so highly processed.

This is not quite true...  Agave does not contain the corn lectin.

Even though a number of sweeteners are OK per my SWAMI, I try to do most of my sweetening with fruit or the sweeter vegetables.
Posted by: snazzyshazz, Saturday, October 13, 2012, 9:17pm; Reply: 11
I also have very few sweeteners as neutrals, and only molasses as a beneficial. I have come to enjoy molasses mixed with a teaspoon of cocoa in hot water as a morning hot drink. Even the neutral sweeteners tend to mess with my blood sugar. Without them I am focused and energetic; with them I am tired and lethargic and mentally dull.

I find that the mind balks far more than the body at the limitations Swami imposes. I am constantly surprised at how well my body responds when I cut out or include a food according to Swami recommendations.

Before my double Lewis negative status confirmation, oats were a beneficial for me. I like oats and tried to be faithful to eating them, but they give me indigestion and terrible stomach discomfort in any more than very small amounts. After the LDN test, oats became an avoid for me. I do much better without them, and indeed without most grains. Someone mentioned above rice cakes - they are a beneficial for me and I enjoy them with almond butter for breakfast.

Nonnies experience a really noticeable difference for compliance - it is worth the sacrifice!
Posted by: ruthiegirl, Sunday, October 14, 2012, 6:06pm; Reply: 12
Remember that SWAMI is a tool; it's up to you how to use that tool. If you're not ready to follow it 100%, then do what you can. You'll still benefit from cutting down on your sweeteners, even if you don't completely give them up just yet.

Cutting down can also be "step one" towards cutting them out completely- slowly reduce the amount of added sweeteners until you don't use any at all, and are appreciating the natural sweetness present in many foods.

I used to use a lot of stevia, especially when I was low-carbing, before I found BTD. Over time, I was cutting back on sweeteners anyway, even before I found out my secretor status and that I shouldn't be using stevia at all. I still use molasses (beneficial) and agave (neutral) sometimes, but not every day, and usually only one teaspoon per day (some days it's a bit more, if I'm not being careful.) I only have one serving per day most of the time, so most of my foods and beverages are completely unsweetened. I'm now detecting natural sweetness in many foods that I used to think just tasted sour or spicy, such as onions and lemon juice (though not together!!!)
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