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Posted by: Donica, Wednesday, September 19, 2012, 11:26pm
Is there any study for heirloom tomatoes or orange or yellow tomatoes for lectins, agglutenates?  Curious since the old grain, spelt is okay but the new grain, wheat is not...
Wishful thinking???????
::)
Posted by: ABJoe, Thursday, September 20, 2012, 12:05am; Reply: 1
Quoted from Donica
Is there any study for heirloom tomatoes or orange or yellow tomatoes for lectins, agglutenates?  Curious since the old grain, spelt is okay but the new grain, wheat is not...

I don't know whether heirloom tomatoes were tested, but unless otherwise stated, assume one rating...

Too provide an example of another grain with the ancient being as bad - the Maize introduced to the American Indian when the USA was settled contains the lectin and has provided much research data about the long-term effects of that lectin...
Posted by: chrissyA, Thursday, September 20, 2012, 12:29am; Reply: 2
This may be an anecdotal reply, but when I eat tomato - vine ripened, Roma, cherry, heirloom, whatever - I get a horrific aftertaste in my mouth that is so very unpleasant I wouldn't eat a tomato even if they were allowable on my SWAMI. So my guess is that they would all have the same rating. Sorry... (unhappy)
Posted by: Lola, Thursday, September 20, 2012, 6:51am; Reply: 3
donica,
try a swami
you might get those back..... :)
Posted by: Donica, Thursday, September 20, 2012, 4:57pm; Reply: 4
Thank you all for your replies.  I do have a SWAMI coming.
:)
Posted by: gardengirl, Thursday, September 20, 2012, 7:09pm; Reply: 5
I had an heirloom beefsteak tomato in my garden and I ate it - exclusively hoping (really hoping and praying and wishing) that it would be okay. It wasn't. My knee inflammation (which was pretty minimal) got worse and I got pain with it whereas before there was no pain at all. It affected me worse than eating processed tomatoes like salsa or something. It was organically grown with no pesticides or growth stimulants, just water and my compost. So, this is my own thing but just letting you know of my experience with it.
Posted by: whitescorpion, Thursday, September 20, 2012, 11:24pm; Reply: 6
I am SOOOO glad I am an AB. I LOVE tomatoes and eat 2 plum tomatoes with lunch and a whole regular tomato with dinner every day. I've given up chicken, red meat, pork (BACON  :-/), shrimp, clams and lobster.

I'm not certain that I could do without tomatoes.
Posted by: ruthiegirl, Friday, September 21, 2012, 8:40pm; Reply: 7
Tomatoes are neutral for Os- unless you tend towards arthritis. This is true for both secretors and non-secretors.

I checked off the "arthritis" box on my SWAMI because I have Fibromyalgia. I don't really have any inflammation related to FMS, but I follow my SWAMI carefully anyway.

Every once in a while I'll eat some tomato sauce- maybe a couple of times a year. I generally feel energized and find a reduction in muscle pain. However, then I develop joint pain that I didn't otherwise have- mostly in my left ankle but in my knees and hips as well.

I'm pretty certain I'd have an active case of osteoarthritis by now if I was regularly eating tomato products.
Posted by: Averno, Friday, September 21, 2012, 8:54pm; Reply: 8
Quoted from whitescorpion
I am SOOOO glad I am an AB. I LOVE tomatoes and eat 2 plum tomatoes with lunch and a whole regular tomato with dinner every day. I've given up chicken, red meat, pork (BACON  :-/), shrimp, clams and lobster.

I'm not certain that I could do without tomatoes.


Glad to see you're getting those avoids out of your system.  Are you adding some new beneficial foods to your diet? Need any help with cooking/recipe ideas (turkey thigh BBQ--tastes remarkably like good ribs  8) )?
Posted by: Donica, Friday, September 21, 2012, 9:35pm; Reply: 9
I'm an "O" but my husband is "B" so he is the one who is suppose to avoid tomatos.'
He loves italian so was hoping...
:-/
Posted by: whitescorpion, Saturday, September 22, 2012, 1:34pm; Reply: 10
Quoted from Averno


Glad to see you're getting those avoids out of your system.  Are you adding some new beneficial foods to your diet? Need any help with cooking/recipe ideas (turkey thigh BBQ--tastes remarkably like good ribs  8) )?


Hi Averno

It was kind of you to offer.  :)

I don't need a lot of variety so I am eating mostly tuna, turkey, sardines, some salmon, and need to try to cook some lamb. Veggies include broccoli, cauliflower, green beans, spinach, cucumbers, some onion and of course, tomatoes. Oatmeal and eggs for breakfast. I add in some EVOO at lunch and dinner. Pineapple and grapes for dessert with the occasional apple. I recently bought a loaf of Ezekiel bread and am having the occasional slice.

I am almost 58, single and lazy so I buy cooked turkey breast from the supermarket, tuna and sardines are not much fuss.  
Posted by: Averno, Saturday, September 22, 2012, 1:56pm; Reply: 11
Quoted from whitescorpion


Hi Averno

It was kind of you to offer.  :)

I don't need a lot of variety so I am eating mostly tuna, turkey, sardines, some salmon, and need to try to cook some lamb. Veggies include broccoli, cauliflower, green beans, spinach, cucumbers, some onion and of course, tomatoes. Oatmeal and eggs for breakfast. I add in some EVOO at lunch and dinner. Pineapple and grapes for dessert with the occasional apple. I recently bought a loaf of Ezekiel bread and am having the occasional slice.

I am almost 58, single and lazy so I buy cooked turkey breast from the supermarket, tuna and sardines are not much fuss.  


Sounds like you're adapting well to food choices. There could be some tweaks here, but better at this point to just stay on track.

Are you "kitchen averse"? I'm not, but there are days...I can certainly appreciate if so..  :)

If you do find yourself getting off track because of eating the same foods regularly, it might be advisable to learn a few more "quick and easy" menus. Just to keep things from getting too boring. I've found the recipes on this site to be useful to a point, but so much is about individual taste. I suspect from the foods you've listed that we're both more about the savory than the sweet or bitter. Satisfying foods.

Posted by: ABJoe, Saturday, September 22, 2012, 4:09pm; Reply: 12
Quoted from whitescorpion
I buy cooked turkey breast from the supermarket,

You need to watch this...  Most have additives that are avoids...

We have to buy the "Natural" turkey - the un-basted ones, due to sensitivity to the solution they inject...
Posted by: whitescorpion, Sunday, September 23, 2012, 2:21pm; Reply: 13
Quoted from ABJoe

You need to watch this...  Most have additives that are avoids...

We have to buy the "Natural" turkey - the un-basted ones, due to sensitivity to the solution they inject...


Thanks, ABJoe. I see from posts made by you and Averno that I will have to dust off my meager cooking skills.  :)
I am capable of cooking a turkey breast or lamb roast. I made my first venture into cooking salmon a week ago. i also need to make some ghee for myself.  

Right now, I am still recovering from my hospital / rehab stay. I have 3 long flights of stairs to negotiate each day and am still significantly overweight at 307 despite the loss of 83 pounds.  I will start to look for natural turkey to cook myself.

I very much appreciate all of the advice and encouragement. Please keep it coming.
Posted by: Averno, Sunday, September 23, 2012, 3:07pm; Reply: 14
You have lots of support here. Forge ahead. :)
Posted by: ABJoe, Sunday, September 23, 2012, 8:09pm; Reply: 15
Quoted from whitescorpion
I will have to dust off my meager cooking skills.  :)
I am capable of cooking a turkey breast or lamb roast. I made my first venture into cooking salmon a week ago. i also need to make some ghee for myself.

This is a great start.  Don't forget to get enough vegetables in there...  Don't hesitate to search for recipes or ask questions about cooking methods, etc...
Posted by: ruthiegirl, Monday, September 24, 2012, 2:39pm; Reply: 16
It can be very easy to dump raw root vegetables (carrots, onions, turnips, winter squash, etc) into the pan with the meat before cooking. Just  cut into bite-sized pieces before adding to the raw meat. By the time the meat is done, the  veggies will be soft, and the flavors meld together- flavoring both the vegetables and the meat. That works in the oven or crock pot.

Another method is to roast bite-sized pieces of vegetables with olive oil, sea salt, and (optional) spices. I often make a green vegetable in the oven while it's on anyway: frozen broccoli or green beans, add a little water and salt, cover, and pop in the oven for about 45 minutes. Sweet potatoes can be covered in aluminum foil and roasted whole if you don't have time for food prep that day.

If you have root veggies roasting by themselves or with the meat, plus the greens, add another dish of grains if desired, and you've got a complete meal while the oven's on anyway to cook the meat.

Leftover cooked meat is great in salads, which pack nicely for lunches.
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