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Posted by: tolondontoparis, Sunday, August 19, 2012, 3:27am
I have refused to accept this for so long, it can't be! Intolerant to BANANAS! I love them so much! Once when I was traveling, I ate a banana with peanut butter (long before I had ever knew about the BTD), and I was puking and excreting everything at the same time! SO AWFUL! (sorry if that was a bit descriptive). And then another time, I was just eating loads of bananas a week! I ate one for breakfast, and then shortly after had severe stomach cramping (the school nurse said that it was probably constipation, since bananas are so binding!) And then just today! I have been quite regular in my bowel habbits, and had already eliminated, so, all systems check. I ate some banana baby food (yes, I eat baby food from time to time as a snack! Only the banana one though, all the others are horrendous!), and then quickly after, the same awful stomach pains, it passed within a half an hour, but it really had me worried! I have been consuming more than 10 bananas a week, now that I have a YONANA, which turns bananas into a ice-cream constancy. I'm so worried now. Could this be part of my skin problems? I have alwayssss eaten bananas! They are supposed to be beneficial to us Os, now I can't even have them! I don't mind cutting them out, but what really has me worried is that people are usually intolerant to bananas because they have a similar compound to latex, which is also found in MANGOS!! NO! NOT THE MANGOES TOO!! Any one else have advice for me? I go to college next friday. Should I just stay clear of any fruits like bananas and mangoes? This is so upsetting, cause it's so rare to have intolerances to those and they are supposed to be good for us!!!
Posted by: DoS, Sunday, August 19, 2012, 3:47am; Reply: 1
Your a nonnie, might be an explorer.

Also I wouldn't rule out your reactions while adverse could also be good... That is if you have a reaction via not consuming a banana with anything else. You seem to site examples of banana eating where banana is not the sole ingredient so it is really hard to make a judgment call on if the banana is even involved in your reactions.
Posted by: tolondontoparis, Sunday, August 19, 2012, 3:50am; Reply: 2
Quoted from DoS
Your a nonnie, might be an explorer.

Also I wouldn't rule out your reactions while adverse could also be good... That is if you have a reaction via not consuming a banana with anything else. You seem to site examples of banana eating where banana is not the sole ingredient so it is really hard to make a judgment call on if the banana is even involved in your reactions.



What do you mean when you say the reaction could be good? All the other times, besides the first It was right after eating bananas. I read something about maybe too much potassium? I had chest pains last night, and I did eat a banana baby food las night.
Posted by: Possum, Sunday, August 19, 2012, 3:55am; Reply: 3
Hi there... For years my O type husband always ate a banana each day for lunch ;) Some time after starting on the BTD he suddenly found he could no longer tolerate them...(Stomach pains/upsets) For well over a year he steered clear of them but now in the last 6 months he has been tolerating them if cooked in cake ??)
I had never thought to try him on organic bananas & we are not sure if the cake is made with organic ones or not :-/ We're also wondering if they started using different sprays on the crops a few years ago ??) I hope you can figure this out?!

Btw I just saw a link that advised Gerber banana baby food is on recall as possibly containing pieces of glass? Other sites claim this is a hoax?!
Posted by: Dianne, Sunday, August 19, 2012, 2:51pm; Reply: 4
Read the ingredients on the baby food jar. Some have citiric acid (usually corn derived) and you may be reacting to that.

I am fine as long as I eat organic bananas. I make ice cream with frozen banana chunks in the Blentdec and add frozen organic raspberries to one batch and the next batch the blueberries. We have one large scoop of each in the evening as a snack.  :)
Posted by: tolondontoparis, Sunday, August 19, 2012, 10:15pm; Reply: 5
maybe it is the corn derived citric acid!!! But, it has happened with just bananas. Perhaps potassium poisoning...
Posted by: Mrs T O+, Sunday, August 19, 2012, 10:48pm; Reply: 6
Too many bananas may upset the blood sugar.

Also, as one who practices food combinations to some extent, I find that you can't mix bananas with too many other foods. I like to eat fruit alone(usually in the morning on an empty stomach), & if I eat various types of fruit, bananas should be eaten last as they are the very sweet type(like dates, etc.).

I found that mangos are supposed to be a beneficial for me, but I usually cough when I eat them, so we have to figure out for ourselves about certain foods.  The biggies like dairy & wheat for Os are what we should be more strict about.  There is a lot of trial & error in BTDing, but the results are worth it!!!!!!!
Posted by: DoS, Sunday, August 19, 2012, 11:19pm; Reply: 7
There was a lady eating 30-40 bananas a day for her diet, has/had some youtube videos. If she wasn't getting potassium poisoning, I don't think you are either.

I would be first concerned about other ingredients. Next I'd wonder if you are drinking enough water for the fiber. After that I'd check to see if I had a nice big poop despite how it felt passing through.

A lot of Type O's are afraid they can't eat red meat because they get gassy when they stop eating wheat. What is actually happening is a new balance is being created, a good one. Bananas play a role for Type O in this manner too. That doesn't mean you couldn't have a problem with a banana, but I wouldn't call the banana the problem until you've tested with idea by isolating it (and an organic one). That way you've established that it was good before eating, noted transient response, and then checked final response to see if it indicated possibly good or bad transient response.

Good, large, easy, BM's are almost always a sign of something right being done. Sometimes diarrhea is too though. The Type O I know that will eat 4 bananas in a row always claims amazing BM's are to follow.
Posted by: Possum, Sunday, August 19, 2012, 11:26pm; Reply: 8
Quoted from DoS
I wouldn't call the banana the problem until you've tested with idea by isolating it (and an organic one). That way you've established that it was good before eating, noted transient response, and then checked final response to see if it indicated possibly good or bad transient response.
Well put!!

Posted by: tolondontoparis, Monday, August 20, 2012, 10:37pm; Reply: 9
Quoted from DoS
There was a lady eating 30-40 bananas a day for her diet, has/had some youtube videos. If she wasn't getting potassium poisoning, I don't think you are either.

I would be first concerned about other ingredients. Next I'd wonder if you are drinking enough water for the fiber. After that I'd check to see if I had a nice big poop despite how it felt passing through.

A lot of Type O's are afraid they can't eat red meat because they get gassy when they stop eating wheat. What is actually happening is a new balance is being created, a good one. Bananas play a role for Type O in this manner too. That doesn't mean you couldn't have a problem with a banana, but I wouldn't call the banana the problem until you've tested with idea by isolating it (and an organic one). That way you've established that it was good before eating, noted transient response, and then checked final response to see if it indicated possibly good or bad transient response.

Good, large, easy, BM's are almost always a sign of something right being done. Sometimes diarrhea is too though. The Type O I know that will eat 4 bananas in a row always claims amazing BM's are to follow.



I think you're right! Potassium poisoning is less likely! The chest/ heart pain worries me, but it has happened before, quickly passed, but my dr said not to worry about it (I don't trust herrrr), but I am going to lay off of them a bit, but I will miss them ever so dearly!!! I just think it's strange! If I was intolerant to them, I would rather have pain EVERY time I ate them, would make more sense! Perhaps It was slight constipation. I probably need to be drinking way more than the recommended 8 glasses a day without the amount of fiber I am consuming, I don't think I have mastered drinking water correctly. I drink a lot of water, but not in intervals, more like all at once, It has to be spaced out.
Posted by: ruthiegirl, Monday, August 20, 2012, 10:42pm; Reply: 10
Get a water bottle that can clip onto your backpack or belt or that has a carrying bag you can wear over your shoulder. That makes it easier to always carry water with you when you walk around campus, and you can make a habit of taking a few sips before and after each class.
Posted by: tolondontoparis, Monday, August 20, 2012, 11:00pm; Reply: 11
Quoted from ruthiegirl
Get a water bottle that can clip onto your backpack or belt or that has a carrying bag you can wear over your shoulder. That makes it easier to always carry water with you when you walk around campus, and you can make a habit of taking a few sips before and after each class.


Great idea Ruthie!!! I need to drink water in small amounts throughout the day, not in copious amounts when I feel like it!
Posted by: Possum, Tuesday, August 21, 2012, 12:21am; Reply: 12
I decided to try out half an organic banana yesterday morning ;) Was enjoying it so much I ate the whole thing ::) No problems till a few hours later some bumps came up on my lower cheek/jawline... Hmmmm should have stuck to just a half.. Will have to test again sometime with just a small amount :-/ ;)
Posted by: tolondontoparis, Tuesday, August 21, 2012, 8:47am; Reply: 13
Quoted from Possum
I decided to try out half an organic banana yesterday morning ;) Was enjoying it so much I ate the whole thing ::) No problems till a few hours later some bumps came up on my lower cheek/jawline... Hmmmm should have stuck to just a half.. Will have to test again sometime with just a small amount :-/ ;)


That's so upsetting to hear! Do you usually have skin problems? Cause I would think most Os are okay with bananas!
Posted by: tolondontoparis, Tuesday, August 21, 2012, 8:57am; Reply: 14
Quoted from Possum
Hi there... For years my O type husband always ate a banana each day for lunch ;) Some time after starting on the BTD he suddenly found he could no longer tolerate them...(Stomach pains/upsets) For well over a year he steered clear of them but now in the last 6 months he has been tolerating them if cooked in cake ??)
I had never thought to try him on organic bananas & we are not sure if the cake is made with organic ones or not :-/ We're also wondering if they started using different sprays on the crops a few years ago ??) I hope you can figure this out?!

Btw I just saw a link that advised Gerber banana baby food is on recall as possibly containing pieces of glass? Other sites claim this is a hoax?!


Same thing with me! Ate them everyday, then out of the blue, BOOM! PAIN! I dunno if it was constipation, food combination, too much potassium (doubt it), or just reaching my tolerance of them, but I am staying clear of them for a little while, I will probably test them again in a few weeks. I just wish I knew what it was! And the times it happens, it's usually just one banana, like at breakfast after I have been eating them a lot.

AND, the glass-in-the-babyfood made me laughhhh. I
Posted by: Possum, Tuesday, August 21, 2012, 9:51am; Reply: 15
Could be a build up then? Bananas are high in histamines & fructose... They are also one of those foods which inhibit the sulfite enzymes, so for anyone who is sensitive to sulphites, unless they are eating foods high in or regularly taking Molybdenum they might get problems with bananas in the long run... Specially if their diet contains also a lot of other foods, which inhibits the sulfite enzymes...

Those of us who are sensitive to either (or all of these things) can tolerate up to a certain amount of things like this, before reaching saturation point... ::) These are the things that make my skin break out (especially the sulphites - natural or added to foods)but I am much better when I watch out for those things & limit them...
Like I said, I might have been ok with a few bites, or even up to a half... :-/ Hard to test just part of a banana, unless able to share eh ;)

Posted by: Possum, Tuesday, August 21, 2012, 9:52am; Reply: 16
Quoted from tolondontoparis
Same thing with me! Ate them everyday, then out of the blue, BOOM! PAIN! I dunno if it was constipation, food combination, too much potassium (doubt it), or just reaching my tolerance of them, but I am staying clear of them for a little while, I will probably test them again in a few weeks. I just wish I knew what it was! And the times it happens, it's usually just one banana, like at breakfast after I have been eating them a lot.
Could be a build up then? Bananas are high in histamines & fructose... They are also one of those foods which inhibit the sulfite enzymes, so for anyone who is sensitive to sulphites, unless they are eating foods high in or regularly taking Molybdenum they might get problems with bananas in the long run... Specially if their diet contains also a lot of other foods, which inhibits the sulfite enzymes...

Those of us who are sensitive to either (or all of these things) can tolerate up to a certain amount of things like this, before reaching saturation point... ::) These are the things that make my skin break out (especially the sulphites - natural or added to foods) but I am much better when I watch out for those things & limit them...
Like I said, I might have been ok with a few bites, or even up to a half... :-/ Hard to test just part of a banana, unless able to share eh ;)

Posted by: Amazone I., Tuesday, August 21, 2012, 10:07am; Reply: 17
no wonder.. too high in sugars for us as being nonnies ;) and as mentioned above  :D......I once went for  baby-bananas and those were + - ok but perhaps only coz they were that small  ;) ;D....
Posted by: Possum, Tuesday, August 21, 2012, 9:10pm; Reply: 18
Baby bananas sound cute!!
Posted by: tolondontoparis, Thursday, August 23, 2012, 1:57am; Reply: 19
Quoted from Possum
Could be a build up then? Bananas are high in histamines & fructose... They are also one of those foods which inhibit the sulfite enzymes, so for anyone who is sensitive to sulphites, unless they are eating foods high in or regularly taking Molybdenum they might get problems with bananas in the long run... Specially if their diet contains also a lot of other foods, which inhibits the sulfite enzymes...

Those of us who are sensitive to either (or all of these things) can tolerate up to a certain amount of things like this, before reaching saturation point... ::) These are the things that make my skin break out (especially the sulphites - natural or added to foods) but I am much better when I watch out for those things & limit them...
Like I said, I might have been ok with a few bites, or even up to a half... :-/ Hard to test just part of a banana, unless able to share eh ;)



Build up of bananas??????? LOLZ! Anyways, I ate 4 bananas today; two in my cherry banana sorbet created with YONANA, and 2 with almond butter. I am so confused about thisssss. I f It was an intolerance reaction, I would just want the crippling pain every-time. I dunno, I love them, and will continue eating them until I AM SURE that they are doing something awful to me
Posted by: tolondontoparis, Thursday, August 23, 2012, 2:00am; Reply: 20
Quoted from Amazone I.
no wonder.. too high in sugars for us as being nonnies ;) and as mentioned above  :D......I once went for  baby-bananas and those were + - ok but perhaps only coz they were that small  ;) ;D....


Bananas are avoids for ABs and for most As! baby bananas do sound cute!!!!
Posted by: Possum, Thursday, August 23, 2012, 2:00am; Reply: 21
No, a build up of histamines, sulphites & fructose levels... Could be 1 or all 3 you & I are reacting to... :-/ I am only going to trial a small amount next time for sure ::) ;) Good luck :D
Posted by: tolondontoparis, Thursday, August 23, 2012, 2:09am; Reply: 22
Quoted from Possum
No, a build up of histamines, sulphites & fructose levels... Could be 1 or all 3 you & I are reacting to... :-/ I am only going to trial a small amount next time for sure ::) ;) Good luck :D


It makes me wonder! Cause I mean, if we were decedents of monkeys, they eat fruit all the time! And what if we were stuck on a deserted island? Now to think of it, we are Os, we probs aren't meant to eat sooo much fruit/sugar at a time, even if it is natural! We need meat and balance! Too much of a good thing can really be bad
Posted by: Possum, Thursday, August 23, 2012, 2:35am; Reply: 23
Exactly - especially for some of us ;) Monkeys are also on the go continuously... probably burning it off more::) ;) Also fruit these days is higher in fructose (been engineered that way) & in the wild a monkey probably knows exactly how ripe to pick fruit to suit their systems ??) ;) Apparently when bananas are riper there is more glucose to balance out the fructose so makes it easier to digest... Conversely, if they (the bananas :D) are greener/less ripe they have less sugar all up... ;)
Posted by: Amazone I., Thursday, August 23, 2012, 6:33am; Reply: 24
perhaps really coz of the histamin intolerance of explorers and of course glyx is extremly high.... :P(shrug)(hand) btw I never really liked em...especially not when grilled and topped with honey.... very würrg -bääää..... :B(hand)(scared)(naughty)(goofy)
Posted by: Possum, Thursday, August 23, 2012, 6:36am; Reply: 25
Jeepers; just found this out - Avocados and bananas contain high concentrations of tyrosine and should not be eaten when over-ripe by people who are tyramine intolerant.... "Tyramine is a compound that is produced when the tyrosine in tyrosine-containing foods breaks down over time. The amount of tyramine in a product increases significantly when the food is fermented, over-ripe or aged. For some people, foods containing a high concentration of tyramine can trigger intolerance symptoms that include bloating, diarrhea, nausea and stomach pain. Food intolerances are not caused by an abnormal immune response, but by a negative physiological reaction to a component in the food, according to a review published by the Oxford Journals.
TYRAMINE INTOLERANCE TREATMENT:
To prevent the bloating associated with tyramine intolerance, doctors advise avoiding foods that have a high tyramine content, as well as over-ripe foods that contain large amounts of tyrosine. Tyramine-rich foods include aged, dried, pickled or smoked meats and fish such as salami, pepperoni or pickled herring; alcoholic drinks such as ale, beer, vermouth or burgundy; fermented soy products such as soy or teriyaki sauce; all types of nuts; and any aged cheeses such as blue cheese, brie or mozzarella..." & of course the above mentioned bananas & avocados ::) http://www.livestrong.com/article/554406-tyrosine-bloating/
Posted by: Amazone I., Thursday, August 23, 2012, 7:05am; Reply: 26
all fermented things give me problems ::) soy products of all kinds ...very (hand)(shrug)and no avocados for me either ;) ;D thanx Possum for the *enlightment*  ;) ;D :K)
Posted by: Possum, Thursday, August 23, 2012, 8:54am; Reply: 27
No worries - although tbh I'd prefer I hadn't been enlightened myself *sigh* ::)
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