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Posted by: Mrs T O+, Tuesday, August 7, 2012, 1:38am
A new acquaintance has been recently diagnosed with lupus.
I told her about the BTD & then wasn't able to talk to her for 2 months or so.
She told me yesterday that she was going to a herbalist as well as the traditional specialist who is too drug oriented. She said the herbalist gave her a BTD list!

I am so thrilled!! She is in the right direction with BTD. Isn't that great!??????
Posted by: Possum, Tuesday, August 7, 2012, 1:45am; Reply: 1
Really great!!
Posted by: chrissyA, Tuesday, August 7, 2012, 4:04am; Reply: 2
Woop-Woop(woot)
Posted by: SquarePeg, Tuesday, August 7, 2012, 6:31pm; Reply: 3
Just curious how long she had to suffer before getting a DX?  Let us know how things go for her.
Posted by: Mrs T O+, Wednesday, August 8, 2012, 1:08am; Reply: 4
I think she shared a few months ago that she was diagnosed with it. Of course, she could have had it some time as it is hard to diagnose(from what little I read about it).
She is peobably over 50, is Afro-American, & type AB.  I keep hearing how bad chicken is for the rare types. I wonder what factor it has in auto-immune diseases.
Posted by: prunella, Thursday, August 9, 2012, 2:27pm; Reply: 5
I have an autoimmune Dx similar to Lupus, characterized by stiff joints, sicca, low energy, general connective tissue stuff.  
I am absolutely frightened by the amount of meds that folks with this Dx take. Do not want to join that club!

In accordance with TCM, I began by eliminating wheat and dairy. Then I found BTD, which led to Swami. Which led to significant improvement--despite the avoid I ate last night: pizza with wheat crust! It had been many months since a "pizza incident" and I think I am OK today!

Good luck to your friend.
Posted by: SquarePeg, Thursday, August 9, 2012, 5:44pm; Reply: 6
Ah yes, Sjogrens.  My wife had that Dx tentatively for several months before a biopsy of the salivary glands ruled it out.  Still don't know what's wrong with her.  Is there a real Dr. House?
Posted by: Mrs T O+, Thursday, August 23, 2012, 4:33pm; Reply: 7
Does anyone have any  more info about lupus?  I'm sure someone out there can help!
Does Dr. D have any lupus patients?  I guess it is related to other auto-immune diseases, so the protocols must be similar.

Thanx!
Posted by: rcmichels1, Thursday, August 23, 2012, 6:28pm; Reply: 8
Hello.  This is my very first post here on the forums and this post caught my eye right away.  I have Lupus (specifically systemic lupus erythematosus).  I was diagnosed in 2005 but have been ill since 2003.

I'm not new to the BTD as my husband and I were on it back in 1998-1999.  I had lost more weight than I had intended and when I dropped to 105 and people kept telling me how gaunt and sick I looked, I decided to stop the diet and try to get back up to a healthier weight for me.  Sadly, within 4 years I started getting very ill and was finally diagnosed with Lupus.

Now I am overweight (medication related) and decided 5 days ago to go back on the BTD.  I'm doing this for two reasons.  First, I wish to get my weight down to a healthier number.  Second, I have hopes that the diet will help me in the area of pain and inflammation so that I can wean myself off of pain medication.  One can hope. Yes?

I used to work in the medical field and am well versed on Lupus so would be happy to answer any questions related to my illness if I can.  I hope to be an active member of the board and look forward to reporting good results.  Sorry this was a long first post!  :B
Posted by: Amazone I., Thursday, August 23, 2012, 6:37pm; Reply: 9
wow great news......... :D back onto BTD... well done ....(smarty)(clap)(ok)(dance)
but then I'd recommend get tested for your needs of supplements and also incompatibility of foods...........(pray)(ok)
Posted by: Jane, Thursday, August 23, 2012, 6:40pm; Reply: 10
Welcome to the board rcmichels.  Hope that the BTD (or the newer diets from Dr. D, GTD and SWAMI are helpful to you.  Mrs. T., I wonder if a SWAMI would help your friend???
Posted by: rcmichels1, Thursday, August 23, 2012, 6:46pm; Reply: 11
Thank you so much!  I think what has been kind of freaky was the fact that way back when we read the book and started the diet, it did say that O's had a high risk for autoimmune diseases.  NEVER would I have dreamed how true of a reality that would become for me.  :'(
Posted by: Averno, Thursday, August 23, 2012, 6:52pm; Reply: 12
Quoted from Jane
Welcome to the board rcmichels.  Hope that the BTD (or the newer diets from Dr. D, GTD and SWAMI are helpful to you.  Mrs. T., I wonder if a SWAMI would help your friend???



With so much at stake, go for Swami.
Posted by: Spring, Thursday, August 23, 2012, 7:08pm; Reply: 13
Quoted from rcmichels1
Sorry this was a long first post!  :B
Don't worry about a long "first post!" The more we know about where a person is coming from, the better things go!! (smile)

I give a strong vote for SWAMI too!! Worth every penny!!
Posted by: ABJoe, Thursday, August 23, 2012, 7:25pm; Reply: 14
Quoted from Mrs T O+
She is peobably over 50, is Afro-American, & type AB.  I keep hearing how bad chicken is for the rare types. I wonder what factor it has in auto-immune diseases.

Chicken and corn are my two worst enemies...  Chicken makes my joints and bones ache tremendously and probably does other things "behind the scenes"...  

Corn does many things - and none of them are good.  

I've never really noticed specific symptoms from beef or pork, but I just don't eat them due to wanting to maintain improved digestion...
Posted by: rcmichels1, Thursday, August 23, 2012, 8:40pm; Reply: 15
Right now, cost is an issue.  I will, however, make myself more familiar with what SWAMI is.  ;D
Posted by: prunella, Thursday, August 23, 2012, 8:56pm; Reply: 16
Bingo! to squarepeg for nailing my Dx. Sjogren's is very similar to Lupus. And the flare ups seem so random. Swami has helped me to identify foods which I was sure were benign, like lentils. And has allowed me to eat a few cheeses, which I had thought I would never eat again.  I have a secretor test but haven't yet sent it it in. I know it will be helpful.--But once you know something, you can't not know it. So if I discover that I am a non-secretor, it will be my own fault if I insist on eating eggplant or mozzarella and then feel crummy.  :)

Rose, when you can manage it, I think swami will be helpful. And if you are going to limit your diet, you probably want your efforts to be specifically targeted to your needs.  Otherwise, too much hit or miss.
Posted by: rcmichels1, Thursday, August 23, 2012, 9:17pm; Reply: 17
Quoted from prunella
Rose, when you can manage it, I think swami will be helpful. And if you are going to limit your diet, you probably want your efforts to be specifically targeted to your needs.  Otherwise, too much hit or miss.


I absolutely hear what you're saying.  I was on the diet before (as I said, never should have stopped) so I'm very familiar with what worked for me before, although no guarantees things haven't changed for me biologically speaking.  Would love to invest in SWAMI now but just can't. :(  Will do so when I can. :)
Posted by: prunella, Friday, August 24, 2012, 12:17am; Reply: 18
Being fiscally responsible is a virtue.  

Just adjusting to autoimmune realities can take a fair amount of energy. The lovely folks on the Sjogren's forum discuss their symptoms and meds. Some of the  meds are scary! While the forum members are a wonderful group, only a few are discussing diet. Hopefully, some will discover BTD/GTD.

You are ahead of the game because you are already familiar with the concepts and know how to adapt your diet.  

Best wellness to you.
Posted by: RedLilac, Saturday, August 25, 2012, 1:30pm; Reply: 19
Good job Mrs T informing your friend about BTD & her actually following through.  Welcome back to the BTD rcmichels1.(clap)(dance)
Posted by: rcmichels1, Thursday, August 30, 2012, 5:52pm; Reply: 20
I thought I'd write a note to update my earlier post since I'm now about 10 days into re-starting the BTD from years ago.  Particularly wanted to address how it's affected my weight and Lupus symptoms.

Pleased to announce I've lost 4lbs. (clap) I think a good start for 10 days.  I have added walking but I must watch that due to sun exposure being a bad thing for Lupus, but I am trying every day.

I seem to be experiencing a decrease in pain, but not swelling.  I know the pain has decreased because I guage that by how much pain medication I take.  The swelling I have to document with pictures so that's an obvious thing I can see.  I'm hoping that this is going to continue to improve and not more a psychological effect of HOPING it's the BTD ... if you know what I mean. (pray)
Posted by: ruthiegirl, Thursday, August 30, 2012, 6:05pm; Reply: 21
Welcome Rose!

I'm glad to hear you're doing better already. There are no "quick fixes" with chronic illnesses. I've come to the conclusion that my SWAMI has identified all my "food triggers"  but there are still environmental factors that can lead to fibro-flares. I haven't perfected things yet, and I still have a lot of healing to do.

If money's tight, I'd suggest a secretor test before buying a SWAMI. If you can't afford the test right now either, you might want to give the non-secretor diet a try and see if that works better for you than the secretor diet. I personally cut out all foods that were avoids for secretors or nonnies (non-secretors) until I was able to get the secretor test done.
Posted by: rcmichels1, Thursday, August 30, 2012, 9:48pm; Reply: 22
Quoted from ruthiegirl
Welcome Rose!

I'm glad to hear you're doing better already. There are no "quick fixes" with chronic illnesses. I've come to the conclusion that my SWAMI has identified all my "food triggers"  but there are still environmental factors that can lead to fibro-flares. I haven't perfected things yet, and I still have a lot of healing to do.

If money's tight, I'd suggest a secretor test before buying a SWAMI. If you can't afford the test right now either, you might want to give the non-secretor diet a try and see if that works better for you than the secretor diet. I personally cut out all foods that were avoids for secretors or nonnies (non-secretors) until I was able to get the secretor test done.


Things have changed quite a bit over the years so when people talk about 'secretors', I'm not really familiar with that.  Back in the day, as they say, when my husband and I were on the BTD, that's all there was.  I guess I need to do my homework. :)
Posted by: Victoria, Thursday, August 30, 2012, 9:52pm; Reply: 23
Rose, in Dr. Complete Blood Type Encyclopedia, he recommends the following protocols for Lupus:

Anti-Inflammation:
http://www.dadamo.com/protocols/4.html

Immune Support:
http://www.dadamo.com/protocols/17.html

Look into LR4YT, which is more up to date than ER4YT and provides food lists for both secretor and non.  
Posted by: rcmichels1, Thursday, August 30, 2012, 10:01pm; Reply: 24
Wow ... unfortunately at $70 for the test, that also will have to wait. :(  I know that this info will be beneficial to me but I can only do what I can financially afford.  It's on my list!  :)

Thank you also, Victoria ... off to check out those links now!  :)
Posted by: delightfuldeb, Friday, August 31, 2012, 7:21pm; Reply: 25
Quoted from rcmichels1
Wow ... unfortunately at $70 for the test, that also will have to wait. :(  I know that this info will be beneficial to me but I can only do what I can financially afford.  It's on my list!  :)

Thank you also, Victoria ... off to check out those links now!  :)


I'm curious...since you followed the BTD years ago and stopped, what foods did you start eating again that you weren't eating while following the BTD? Also, so glad to see you back to eating right  ;D
Posted by: rcmichels1, Sunday, September 2, 2012, 11:02pm; Reply: 26
Quoted from delightfuldeb


I'm curious...since you followed the BTD years ago and stopped, what foods did you start eating again that you weren't eating while following the BTD? Also, so glad to see you back to eating right  ;D


The biggest cause for my weight to start going back up immediately were wheat and gluten.  What has put me OVER what I should be were some meds I was on for the Lupus.  That's added the 20 pounds I want to lose.
Posted by: Lola, Monday, September 3, 2012, 4:25am; Reply: 27
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Epigenetic basis of SLE: it is known that disrupting DNA methyltransferase in animals results in their developing the lupus equivalent.
Epigenetics in systemic lupus erythemato... [Int J Clin Rheumtol. 2011] - PubMed - NCBI
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22184503
Posted by: Mrs T O+, Tuesday, September 25, 2012, 2:21pm; Reply: 28
I finally got to see my friend briefly the other day.
She said she was feeling better.  I hope someday to get her to read the books & get on this forum.

I don't know her schedule or energy level to know how much time she can spend here, but it would be great!
How are the rest of you with auto-immune diseases?
Posted by: Mrs T O+, Monday, December 31, 2012, 9:40pm; Reply: 29
Can I bump up this topic?
How is rcmichels1 doing? I would love to know.

I thought that type B was the main one for auto-immmune disease & would guess that AB is next.
What does the Dr. say?

We know that all types can get all problems, but which ones are the main ones for this?
Posted by: Mrs T O+, Thursday, January 31, 2013, 6:43pm; Reply: 30
I did get to see the woman with lupus & she says she is doing better. She showed that her skin is improving. I think she said she was off the drugs(or at least taking fewer!).
That is such good news. Too bad I don't have time to talk more in depth. I mentioned dadamo.com. I hope she remembers it!
Maybe she will show up here soon!!!!!
Posted by: SquarePeg, Thursday, January 31, 2013, 8:01pm; Reply: 31
That's encouraging!  Getting rid of the side effects of the drugs alone has got to make her feel better.
Posted by: Spring, Thursday, January 31, 2013, 8:52pm; Reply: 32
I had an uncle and an aunt who died with lupus - my mother's siblings. It would have been so wonderful to have known back when I was young something that would have helped them. They both were such wonderful people and a great loss......

I was beginning to learn about the wonders of alternative medicine but hadn't realized the magical value of it yet. And I'm still learning, of course.
Posted by: ApplesCarrotsnGrain, Friday, February 1, 2013, 5:44am; Reply: 33
I was diagnosed with lupus and sjogren's late Sept. of 2012. Just discovered the blood type diet about a yr ago when I started craving bloody steak (I'm a born and raised vegetarian...and had never had steak in my life). Yeah, turns out I love steak, especially on the rare side.  :B

I'm too new to the lupus thing to know what triggers what exactly and I'm still fine tuning. I've cut out wheat all together and have been strict about that for 4 months (not counting finding it in foods by accident....that will train you to be more diligent fast). I've noticed a huge improvement in how my guts feel without wheat. I know stress and sunlight can trigger my lupus. Yes, I'm officially part vampire it seems. lol
Posted by: ABJoe, Friday, February 1, 2013, 4:45pm; Reply: 34
My guess is that as you follow Dr. D.'s diet recommendations, the inflammation will eventually go away, although this may take a while depending on how much damage needs to be repaired.
Posted by: Spring, Friday, February 1, 2013, 7:54pm; Reply: 35
I have a niece who has a serious problem with sunlight and has to go to extreme measures to avoid it. (Like wearing cotton gloves to cover her arms when she is driving - summer and winter!) In spite of that, she does not have lupus. They were certain that was what she had, but they were able to rule it out after extensive testing. She has been on one or another of Dr. D's diets for fourteen years and is really healthy.
Posted by: ApplesCarrotsnGrain, Friday, February 1, 2013, 10:02pm; Reply: 36
Oh poor gal! What happens to your niece if she doesn't cover up from the sun?
Posted by: Amazone I., Monday, February 4, 2013, 10:00am; Reply: 37
it seems due to the testings and results and researches from here: http://www.klinghardt.org
lupus is also related to this thema and can be reversed with the right treatment!!!
Posted by: aussielady582, Wednesday, February 6, 2013, 4:21am; Reply: 38
The book, "The Paleo Answer" by L. Cordain good too for those with autoimmune disease, in meantime, don't eat white potatoes, grains, legumes, dairy foods, sugar, or seed-like grains ie buckwheat, quinoa, amaranth, chia seeds.  Keep other nightshade veg low too.  Cordain explains well in book. Keep it simple, animal proteins, veg, fruit, herbs, spice, few nuts, oils. just brief reply for now.
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