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Posted by: ArwenLegolas, Saturday, August 4, 2012, 3:30am
What do Polyamines do and what are indican levels?
Posted by: Cristina, Saturday, August 4, 2012, 3:44am; Reply: 1
Will this help you?

http://www.drpeterjdadamo.com/wiki/wiki.pl/Polyamines
Posted by: ABJoe, Saturday, August 4, 2012, 4:12am; Reply: 2
Indican level blog by Dr. D.:

http://www.dadamo.com/B2blogs/blogs/index.php/2004/03/23/the-indican-test?blog=27
Posted by: yaeli, Saturday, August 4, 2012, 4:37am; Reply: 3
Quoted from ABJoe
Thank you.  :)

Posted by: ArwenLegolas, Saturday, August 4, 2012, 6:29pm; Reply: 4
So, why is it bad for me to increase Polyamine levels?
Posted by: ArwenLegolas, Saturday, August 4, 2012, 6:55pm; Reply: 5
ABJoe,it said in the Blog " Elevated indican is rather rare in simple constipation, but often high with diarrhea". But had Chronic Constipation since I was 6 months old. My old doctor in Riverside said I had the start of Peptic Ulcers yeas ago . Doesn't that indicate that I have high level of stomach acids? My problems are not meats at all, I can lose weight and have no symptoms when I follow a South Beach Diet Regimen, but my problem is with carbs like beans, pasta, potatoes and rice etc.

The other problem I have with my Type AB diet is that there are so many Beneficials I am not supposed to eat because of my low thyroid problem. They are too high in Goitregens which mess with my T4 to T3 conversion
When I still had Medicaid I asked my doctor if he would prescribe me Cytomel, but he said no. I am thinking about getting some T3 Tablets from Australia where I don't need a prescription
Posted by: ABJoe, Saturday, August 4, 2012, 9:39pm; Reply: 6
Quoted from ArwenLegolas
My old doctor in Riverside said I had the start of Peptic Ulcers yeas ago . Doesn't that indicate that I have high level of stomach acids?

You may have never had proper flora balance, causing constipation, digestion issues, etc...  If you've had constant slow transit, maybe the digestive juices didn't leave in a timely fashion.  In this case, it seems like the problem is not too much acid, but bacterial balance - maybe due to avoid food intake or ???

Quoted from ArwenLegolas
My problems are not meats at all, I can lose weight and have no symptoms when I follow a South Beach Diet Regimen, but my problem is with carbs like beans, pasta, potatoes and rice etc.

The other problem I have with my Type AB diet is that there are so many Beneficials I am not supposed to eat because of my low thyroid problem. They are too high in Goitregens which mess with my T4 to T3 conversion
When I still had Medicaid I asked my doctor if he would prescribe me Cytomel, but he said no. I am thinking about getting some T3 Tablets from Australia where I don't need a prescription

Have you done a simple iodine patch test to see about proper levels?  If you are iodine deficient the thyroid won't work correctly.  Very inexpensive and may save you grief...
Posted by: Andrea AWsec, Saturday, August 4, 2012, 9:41pm; Reply: 7
H pylori causes Peptic ulcers. :(

Sounds like gut flora issues. Thyroid disease is directly related to the gut.
Posted by: Lola, Sunday, August 5, 2012, 12:16am; Reply: 8
yup, heal the gut

polyflora, intrisa, genoma security, ara 6

use the online protocols
Posted by: ArwenLegolas, Tuesday, August 14, 2012, 8:54pm; Reply: 9
Lola, which would be the most important one to get? My husband is an independent contractor and has to pay his own taxes 30.3% on $7.35 an hour. He works 9 hours a day
after taxes that is $46.10 a day and we do have to eat. HE is not on the BTD and has lost bunches of weight and I don't know how, but 23 lbs since May 15th and he is down to 172lbs. I am drinking lots of water and have added again Chlorophyll to my water. A friend who is an Naturopath told me that people got healed of Leukemia by drinking Chlorophyll. Since MY Leukemia is still in its chronic stages, maybe I can get rid of it before it turns into the acute phase.
Posted by: ArwenLegolas, Tuesday, August 14, 2012, 8:57pm; Reply: 10
AB Joe, When I take iodine and spread it on my belly, it's gone within a half an hour. I am taking 75mcg of Synthroid every day. I have had constipation issues since I was 6 months old. My mother gave me household soap suppositories called Sunlicht when I was 6 months old. I had to take such horse sized tabled called Nervogastrol since I was 6 years old. I just turned 58 on the 5th of August so I been having intestinal problems for 57.5 years of my life.
Posted by: ABJoe, Tuesday, August 14, 2012, 11:39pm; Reply: 11
Quoted from ArwenLegolas
AB Joe, When I take iodine and spread it on my belly, it's gone within a half an hour. I am taking 75mcg of Synthroid every day. I have had constipation issues since I was 6 months old. My mother gave me household soap suppositories called Sunlicht when I was 6 months old. I had to take such horse sized tabled called Nervogastrol since I was 6 years old. I just turned 58 on the 5th of August so I been having intestinal problems for 57.5 years of my life.

It sounds like you need Iodine.  I would keep putting it on a spot at a time until the spot remains for at least 4 hours, better if it stays 12 or more...

I'm sorry that you've had digestive issues for this long, but you now have access to diet and supplement information that will help you.  I realize that progress may be very slow due to the amount of damage, but the only way to heal is to start and stick to it.
Posted by: ArwenLegolas, Wednesday, August 15, 2012, 12:37am; Reply: 12
Yes, I understand that AB Joe. Once the SSI people return the money they took as "Over payment" we will have close to $3000 and then I can get the tests, but you know the wheels of our government turn slowly but surely and I will just have to wait till they deposit it. It is hard for us because we really can't afford a lot of the foods so I am hoping that once I run out of foods that are non-compliant, I can buy foods that are beneficial for me. Do you know where I can find an AB Food List? Not the food list that covers everybody like here on the board.
Posted by: C_Sharp, Wednesday, August 15, 2012, 1:38am; Reply: 13
AB food lists are copyrighted,

You will need a book to get the lists.

If you are dealing with Leukemia you will want to use the lists in the cancer book.

http://www.4yourtype.com/prodinfo.asp?number=ED064S

Unfortunately that book is not owned by the Houston Public library, but the menopause book is:

http://encore.houstonlibrary.org/iii/encore/record/C__Rb3160042__S%28blood+type+diet%29+a%3A%28D%27adamo%29__P0%2C1__Orightresult__X4?lang=eng&suite=pearl


You can request the Cancer book on interlibrary loan:

http://catalog.houstonlibrary.org/screens/ILL_agree.html

Posted by: ArwenLegolas, Wednesday, August 15, 2012, 1:47am; Reply: 14
C-sharp, thanks for the searching. I think I will go to Half Price Books and see if they still have some of those books. I appreciate your help.
Posted by: Lola, Wednesday, August 15, 2012, 5:40am; Reply: 15
Quoted Text
I am drinking lots of water and have added again Chlorophyll to my water


lucky you being AB
alfalfa is a beneficial ;)
Posted by: ArwenLegolas, Wednesday, August 15, 2012, 1:35pm; Reply: 16
Lola, have you ever heard that Chlorophyll will "cure" Leukemia? The Manager of a local Health Food Store, who also happens to be a friend, if not a close friend of mine made that statement yesterday when I went to get some Nature's Sunshine Products instead of ordering it through the company, of which I also am a distributor.
Posted by: Spring, Wednesday, August 15, 2012, 1:37pm; Reply: 17
Quoted from ArwenLegolas
C-sharp, thanks for the searching. I think I will go to Half Price Books and see if they still have some of those books. I appreciate your help.


I have bought a lot of books at this site. Good luck!  :) My heart goes out to you...
About the chlorophyll, I don't know anything about what it might cure, but it is wonderful for the stomach/gut - the High Sheriff of what goes on in our bodies!
Posted by: ArwenLegolas, Wednesday, August 15, 2012, 1:49pm; Reply: 18
Thank you Spring. If nothing else, it makes me "smell" less. I have a real problem with body odor, but I prefer not to clog up my pores with anti-antiperspirant, since I already have a problem perspiring. And NSP has a minty flavor, so it also freshens my breath. At least it will keep me "regular"
Posted by: Spring, Wednesday, August 15, 2012, 2:01pm; Reply: 19
Yes, I like that part about chlorophyll too!!
Posted by: ArwenLegolas, Wednesday, August 15, 2012, 3:09pm; Reply: 20
@ Spring
I am looking into saving up for a BTD Practitioner not far away from where I live. Maybe they have a package deal that includes all the tests and the SWAMI which will be mine to keep and I will have objective help with the measuring for the Genotype
That will be fun seeing that my ring and index fingers are all different sizes on each hand

@ C-Sharp
I went to the Abe Books site, but for some reason they do not accept my MC Debit card
Posted by: ArwenLegolas, Wednesday, August 15, 2012, 3:11pm; Reply: 21
Yaeli, Todah rabbah ve bevakashah
Posted by: KimonoKat, Wednesday, August 15, 2012, 8:21pm; Reply: 22
Quoted from ArwenLegolas
Lola, have you ever heard that Chlorophyll will "cure" Leukemia? The Manager of a local Health Food Store, who also happens to be a friend, if not a close friend of mine made that statement yesterday when I went to get some Nature's Sunshine Products instead of ordering it through the company, of which I also am a distributor.


I am very familiar with Nature's Sunshine.  Have used their products for years...but their herbal formula blends are not "blood type specific."

Chlorophyl may help for some, and not for others.  Our blood type/genotype is key to what "specific"nutrients will help a body recover from an illness.

Sharing with the best of intentions.

I drank Chlorophyl for years, because herbalists told me it was good for me.  But once I started reading about Blood Type, I realized Chlorophyl was made from... alfalfa, a Type O avoid.  See?
Posted by: Victoria, Wednesday, August 15, 2012, 10:16pm; Reply: 23
Quoted from ArwenLegolas

@ C-Sharp
I went to the Abe Books site, but for some reason they do not accept my MC Debit card


Do they take PayPal?  It's easy to set up an account.  :)
Posted by: Spring, Wednesday, August 15, 2012, 10:41pm; Reply: 24
Quoted from ArwenLegolas
Lola, have you ever heard that Chlorophyll will "cure" Leukemia? The Manager of a local Health Food Store, who also happens to be a friend, if not a close friend of mine made that statement yesterday when I went to get some Nature's Sunshine Products instead of ordering it through the company, of which I also am a distributor.


You don't have to get chlorophyll from alfalfa. Just eat all the green stuff you are allowed on your diet! Chlorella (micro-algae) is a good source of it. I don't get along with alfalfa AT ALL, and I knew that before I ever heard of Dr. D. It is an avoid for me now. Not surprised at all!
Posted by: C_Sharp, Thursday, August 16, 2012, 2:03am; Reply: 25
Quoted from Victoria


Do they take PayPal?  


Abebooks resell books from various vendors. Whether paypal is accepted depends on the vendor that actually has the book.  You can keep trying different people offering the book until you find one that likes pay pal.  I suggest not bothering with trying a lot of different copies on abebooks until you find one from someone that likes pay pal.

If you want to use pay pal, better world books has the cancer book for $4.03

http://www.betterworldbooks.com/cancer-fight-with-blood-type-diet-H0.aspx?SearchTerm=cancer+fight+with+blood+type+diet

It is also available on biblio which takes pay pal:

http://www.biblio.com/9780399151019

(But I think the original questioner is going to get it locally)
Posted by: C_Sharp, Thursday, August 16, 2012, 2:07am; Reply: 26
Just pointing out new copies on the book are on sale for $11.95 from DNP:

http://www.4yourtype.com/prodinfo.asp?number=ED064S
Posted by: ArwenLegolas, Thursday, August 16, 2012, 2:38am; Reply: 27
I like their Chlorophyll because Alfalfa is one of my Beneficials.
Also I cannot eat many of the Beneficial Blood Type Compliant Beneficials because I have an underactive Thyroid. Just to name a few
Broccoli
Cauliflower
Spinach
Mustard Greens
Kale
Spinach
Turnip Greens

Also I cannot eat
Tofu
Soybean Products
Tempe
Strawberries
Soybeans

So you see I am rather restricted
Posted by: Lola, Thursday, August 16, 2012, 6:48am; Reply: 28
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Lola, have you ever heard that Chlorophyll will "cure" Leukemia?


first find out your secretor status

get the cancer book

finetune the guidelines according to your individuality if you can t get a swami

have you read up on helix
http://www.4yourtype.com/prodinfo.asp?number=NP011

http://www.4yourtype.com/products.asp?dept=15
Posted by: 815 (Guest), Thursday, August 16, 2012, 1:27pm; Reply: 29
Quoted from Andrea AWsec
H pylori causes Peptic ulcers. :(

Sounds like gut flora issues. Thyroid disease is directly related to the gut.


I found out from Dr. D that there are other bacteria that can cause an overgrowth in the stomach as well.. Apparently, I have them.  :(
Posted by: ArwenLegolas, Thursday, August 16, 2012, 10:17pm; Reply: 30
We got our first Repayment Check today. Yay! I went and took most of the AVOIDS yesterday back to the different stores and got my money back in cash or on a card. When I checked my bank account this morning, there was almost $500 in there instead of almost $13. So I went and stocked up on Beneficial Foods.

@Lola You said that I should first get my secretor status. That that is the most important. Okay. I can do that now. Today I looked in the mail and my friend Rabbi Segal send us a $50 check for our Birthdays. That replaces part of what I spend today. Should I try to get the Taster status along with the Secretor? Been without coffee now for several days and have a problem again with my blood sugar. I will go to HPB after the Open House I am going to tonight and look for some of the ER4YT Books.
Posted by: ABJoe, Thursday, August 16, 2012, 10:48pm; Reply: 31
Quoted from ArwenLegolas
Been without coffee now for several days and have a problem again with my blood sugar.

There will be an adjustment period when you remove items that are adversely affecting your body, but I don't know any other way to stop the damage and start healing.
Posted by: ArwenLegolas, Thursday, August 16, 2012, 11:00pm; Reply: 32
I am not missing it as much as I thought. I am not allowed to have Grain Beverages because the one I have has Barley in it. Any other things that could replace my morning coffee?
Posted by: KimonoKat, Thursday, August 16, 2012, 11:05pm; Reply: 33
Quoted from ArwenLegolas
I am not missing it as much as I thought. I am not allowed to have Grain Beverages because the one I have has Barley in it. Any other things that could replace my morning coffee?


Green Tea. Good for you <3
Posted by: ArwenLegolas, Friday, August 17, 2012, 1:15pm; Reply: 34
Barley changed. It used to be an Avoid, but is now a Neutral according to the LR4YT book I got yesterday. So I can have my Grain Beverage after all
Posted by: ABJoe, Friday, August 17, 2012, 4:06pm; Reply: 35
Quoted from ArwenLegolas
Barley changed. It used to be an Avoid, but is now a Neutral according to the LR4YT book I got yesterday. So I can have my Grain Beverage after all

Remember that Typebase online is the most up-to-date reference for food ratings for BTD.
Posted by: KimonoKat, Friday, August 17, 2012, 4:10pm; Reply: 36
TypeBase: http://www.dadamo.com/typebase4/typeindexer.htm

TypeBase, Barley: http://www.dadamo.com/typebase4/depictor5.pl?46
Posted by: Lola, Saturday, August 18, 2012, 5:40am; Reply: 37
Quoted Text
Should I try to get the Taster status


you can get taster strips inside the genotype kit
Posted by: Lola, Saturday, August 18, 2012, 5:44am; Reply: 38
http://www.4yourtype.com/prodinfo.asp?number=NP000
Posted by: ArwenLegolas, Saturday, August 18, 2012, 1:31pm; Reply: 39
I know that those are great products, but what is in them?
Remember I have an underactive thyroid and can't have tofu or Soybean derived things because they block my T4 to T3 Conversion in my body
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