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Posted by: san j, Wednesday, July 11, 2012, 11:29pm
Just had a hamburger for lunch, and it feels great.
What is it? I tend to be really energized by beefburgers.
When I have beef for lunch, I feel g-o-o-d.  :D
It's "only a Neutral" for B/Nomad, but it's always had this effect on me.

Posted by: Adopted4, Thursday, July 12, 2012, 1:31am; Reply: 1
High protein lunches tend to suit many people well because those mid-afternoon drowsies that hit some people (including myself) often result from a lack of protein or too many carbs.

Is it possible you have an O recessive gene in your family? I've heard others talk on this list about recessive alleles having an effect on what foods you may tolerate. Anyone else know what I"m talking about? Beef is a superfood for O's and if you have an O parent maybe that explains the "high" feeling after eating beef.

I asked my B blood type sons and they said beef makes them feel good, but I don't know that it's been extraordinarily noticeable for them. If you are young and active like my sons, just eating good quality protein from a compliant source may make you feel good.
Posted by: san j, Thursday, July 12, 2012, 2:39am; Reply: 2
I like eggs, too.
Eggs are also neutral high protein, very energizing, in a solid, durable way.

All Bs are either Bb or Bo, and I am the latter. My father was Ao.

I think I do well with protein at lunch, but for some reason, the hamburger is a real pick-me-up. Maybe I just love 'em!  :D
Posted by: Henriette Bsec, Thursday, July 12, 2012, 8:11am; Reply: 3
Quoted from san j
Just had a hamburger for lunch, and it feels great.
What is it? I tend to be really energized by beefburgers.
When I have beef for lunch, I feel g-o-o-d.  :D
It's "only a Neutral" for B/Nomad, but it's always had this effect on me.



I feel the same about beef
and beef is superfood in my swami  ;D
I am Bo btw .

If I feel moody  or burned out I crave beef and eggs as well as chocolate :B

My best calm me down meal is
Roast beef/steak with homemade sauce bearnaise( eggyolks, butter and white wine-herbs) servede with broccoli and maybe some starch potato or sweet potato ;D
Posted by: Possum, Thursday, July 12, 2012, 10:05am; Reply: 4
I always feel way better on beef than any other meat, whereas lamb can be a bit fatty... although a really lean piece is ok for me... Genotype wise, oddly enough, I think beef is only a superfood for Hunters?!
Posted by: Marc121, Thursday, July 12, 2012, 10:38am; Reply: 5
I feel energetic. I`m not that sure but I get very moody after an hour.
So I prefer fish instead. :)
Posted by: Henriette Bsec, Thursday, July 12, 2012, 11:31am; Reply: 6
Kind of interesting Marc121 - I wonder what kind of meat you get ??
Is it conventional grain fed beef or grassfed beef.

Posted by: san j, Friday, July 13, 2012, 4:49am; Reply: 7
Quoted from Marc121
I feel energetic. I`m not that sure but I get very moody after an hour.
So I prefer fish instead. :)


This is not the first I'm hearing of this. Some people with anger-management problems have mentioned beef-ingestion as frequently preceding ornery, irritable moods.

Though perhaps Marc121 is referring to something else.
Posted by: Goldie, Saturday, July 14, 2012, 1:15pm; Reply: 8
I must say .. if I follow the foods suggested I feel good, if I eat differently I pay a big price in energy/sluggishness and sleeping my life away.. Protein and veggies yes in every meal.. all else is snack foods to be tasted not swallowed..
Posted by: RedLilac, Saturday, July 14, 2012, 1:18pm; Reply: 9
I need beef to feel good.  I’ve gone a few days without it and can tell the difference.
Posted by: Kristin, Saturday, July 14, 2012, 3:08pm; Reply: 10
Beef is easy to find and cheap but I prefer American bison and lamb for my red meat fix. Although almost all bison is technically cow now since bison was bred with cows in the early days.
Posted by: san j, Saturday, July 14, 2012, 10:24pm; Reply: 11
Kristin!
We smoked you out of them thar Rockies! You haven't checked in with the clan by the ol' campfire (B & Indiv. II) which you'd played such a hand in stokin', back in the day! Hitch up and tell us some tales under the stars.

I love lamb and have had some awesome buffalo. It's infinitely easier, however, to find a hamburger when out for lunch with a friend, especially if you're somewhere that has really good ones. And it just sharpens the mind and energizes mid-day, I've found.
Posted by: TJ, Sunday, July 15, 2012, 5:11pm; Reply: 12
I feel the same about beef. I really like it. I especially can tell with quality steaks that are well marbled. Beef fat, yummy! (drool)

Quoted from Adopted4
Is it possible you have an O recessive gene in your family?
They are all recessive. ;D ;)
Posted by: Kristin, Sunday, July 15, 2012, 5:21pm; Reply: 13
Yep, been pretty smoky here in the southern Rockies this summer but things are settling down now. I was Evacuation Central for awhile with friends and family storing their belongings at my place while the fires raged. Quite devastating and frightening but calm is once again returning. I just got back from a Kundalini yoga class that stokes the inner fires - the only fire I care to experience now! Staying away from live flames of all kinds so no barbequing for me of any sort. Red meat will have to wait - fish is looking pretty sweet.
Posted by: PCUK-Positive, Sunday, July 15, 2012, 5:21pm; Reply: 14
Where as a good cut of organic beef is good I'm not so sure about perhaps a non organic beefburger (unless you ground it from a bit of organic steak yourself), i would also be very wary of buying one in a fast food hall or even at a barbecue to be honest what with transfats et al.

although my vegetarian (for a week) mouth is watering at the though of a bit of rare chateaubriand.  

(clap)
Posted by: 14442 (Guest), Sunday, July 15, 2012, 5:24pm; Reply: 15
I haven't eaten meat in 6 weeks; don't miss it.  It is too high in some amino acid & also phosphate.  I feel better & plan to only eat in small amounts.
Posted by: TJ, Sunday, July 15, 2012, 9:39pm; Reply: 16
Quoted from Kristin
Yep, been pretty smoky here in the southern Rockies this summer but things are settling down now. I was Evacuation Central for awhile with friends and family storing their belongings at my place while the fires raged. Quite devastating and frightening but calm is once again returning. I just got back from a Kundalini yoga class that stokes the inner fires - only fire I care to experience now! Staying away from live flames of all kinds so no barbequing for me of any sort. Red meat will have to wait - fish is looking pretty sweet.
Yeah, I doubt burned sage is as tasty as safe that is merely dried. :-/
Posted by: gulfcoastguy, Sunday, July 15, 2012, 10:23pm; Reply: 17
It depends as I do have an O recessive gene. I do love a good beef fillet cooked medium rare but I could say the same about rack of lamb, seared tuna steak, or well cooked turkey. I'm putting turkey legs on the grill as soon as the coals finish lighting.
Posted by: san j, Monday, July 16, 2012, 2:29am; Reply: 18
Please refer me to where Dr. D'Adamo distinguishes between foods that are particularly strengthening for Bo versus those that are so for Bb.
Thanks!  :)
Posted by: Henriette Bsec, Monday, July 16, 2012, 9:03am; Reply: 19
Quoted from san j
Please refer me to where Dr. D'Adamo distinguishes between foods that are particularly strengthening for Bo versus those that are so for Bb.
Thanks!  :)


I have never seen it  :-/- but always wondered about it.

The A´s have A1 and A2 - why are we Bs so boring :P

I know as a rh- I need more protein and less grain than the rh+
Posted by: marjorie, Monday, July 16, 2012, 7:15pm; Reply: 20
Quoted from Marc121
I feel energetic. I`m not that sure but I get very moody after an hour.
So I prefer fish instead. :)


I have the same issue-- I will feel good eating the meat but then I get really moody... this happens with chicken alot for me.

Beef- I think I need to slowly get it back into my system again, I was not eating it for some time.

I love fish!!!!
Posted by: ruthiegirl, Monday, July 16, 2012, 9:15pm; Reply: 21
If I don't eat enough red meat, my energy levels and moods suffer. According to SWAMI, I should be having beef 5X a week. I'm not always able to have that much every week, in part  due to expense and in part because other family members need less meat/more poultry than I do and it's hard to co-ordinate everybody's needs at once.

If I don't have beef at least 3 times a week, I suffer. If I over-eat red meat one week, I can manage with less the week after, but it needs to average 3-5 servings of red meat per week.

I rarely buy lamb because it's expensive and hard to find locally (though non-kosher lamb is easy to find.) So most of my red meat intake is in the form of beef. It's a beneficial food for me. Lamb is a diamond and I feel even better when I eat it, but it's impossible for me to have it more than a few times a year.
Posted by: san j, Monday, July 16, 2012, 10:00pm; Reply: 22
Quoted from Henriette Bsec

why are we Bs so boring :P

:o :o :o ??) ??) ??)

I have heard Bs characterized in numerous ways, darling. But never as "boring"! We're the local color - are you kidding?  :D
;)


Posted by: Henriette Bsec, Tuesday, July 17, 2012, 7:58am; Reply: 23
Quoted from san j

:o :o :o ??) ??) ??)

I have heard Bs characterized in numerous ways, darling. But never as "boring"! We're the local color - are you kidding?  :D
;)




;D
yeah but it would be intersting if there were subgroups of B´s as well:)
Posted by: ruthiegirl, Tuesday, July 17, 2012, 4:11pm; Reply: 24
There aren't any subgroups of O's either! We're all OO; you Bs at least can be BB or BO.
Posted by: Henriette Bsec, Tuesday, July 17, 2012, 4:17pm; Reply: 25
;D I know I know :)

San J - maybe you got beef as superfood - like I do - if you had a swami  - who knows ;)
Posted by: Marc121, Wednesday, July 18, 2012, 1:34am; Reply: 26
Quoted from marjorie


I have the same issue-- I will feel good eating the meat but then I get really moody... this happens with chicken alot for me.

Beef- I think I need to slowly get it back into my system again, I was not eating it for some time.

I love fish!!!!


I easily get angered also.
Posted by: Marc121, Wednesday, July 18, 2012, 1:37am; Reply: 27
Quoted from Henriette Bsec
Kind of interesting Marc121 - I wonder what kind of meat you get ??
Is it conventional grain fed beef or grassfed beef.



I`m sure its purely grassfed. Because its from our farm. :)
Posted by: Henriette Bsec, Wednesday, July 18, 2012, 6:11am; Reply: 28
Quoted from Marc121


I`m sure its purely grassfed. Because its from our farm. :)


Good for you  ;D
Posted by: san j, Thursday, July 19, 2012, 4:08am; Reply: 29
Quoted from Henriette Bsec


;D
yeah but it would be intersting if there were subgroups of B´s as well:)


There are subgroups of Bs, luv. Just not in the way you're thinkin'.  ;)

Posted by: Henriette Bsec, Thursday, July 19, 2012, 6:12am; Reply: 30
;D
Posted by: san j, Thursday, July 19, 2012, 7:43pm; Reply: 31
Quoted from san j


There are subgroups of Bs, luv. Just not in the way you're thinkin'.  ;)



And remember this, too:

There are subgroups of B: Gatherers, Explorers, and Nomads.
Subgroups of O: Hunters, Gatherers, and Explorers.
Subgroups of A: Teachers, Explorers, and Warriors.
Subgroups of AB: Teachers, Explorers, Warriors, and Nomads.
Not to mention other subgroups (including but not restricted to A1 vs. A2 and Rh factor).

Add to all of the above "Individuality", and there's still enough mystery and color in the world for even you, my little Danish friend.  ;)

Posted by: san j, Sunday, July 22, 2012, 5:31pm; Reply: 32
Quoted from PCUK-Positive
Where as a good cut of organic beef is good I'm not so sure about perhaps a non organic beefburger (unless you ground it from a bit of organic steak yourself), i would also be very wary of buying one in a fast food hall or even at a barbecue to be honest what with transfats et al.

although my vegetarian (for a week) mouth is watering at the though of a bit of rare chateaubriand.  

(clap)


I agree that when it comes to beef, the quality is crucial, because there is an extremely wide range of it available, from incredibly fine to downright questionable.  :o  I don't demand that it be organic or grass-fed, but it's a sort of meat I won't order just anywhere.

Posted by: Victoria, Sunday, July 22, 2012, 6:09pm; Reply: 33
Beef doesn't do it for me.  Lean lamb for my midday meal, on the other hand, is pure energy and delight!  ;D
Posted by: san j, Wednesday, April 3, 2013, 12:23am; Reply: 34
Searched out this thread, because I feel terrific having just eaten an early dinner (Early Bird Special at my house!  :D) with beef filet at the center of it.

Henriette knows what I 'm talking about - Beef filet (with a bordelaise/champignon reduction), baked potato (with a yogurt/blue cheese dollop), and braised vegetables. Glass of cabernet sauvignon --- It was awfully "beneficial". Even felt "diamond", according to my INDIVIDUAMI system.
Like a battery charge.

Funny, because you hear/read that many would feel drowsy and heavy after such a repast.

And I seem to be finding beef very tasty a bit rarer than I used to take it. Closer to rare than medium rare...
Posted by: Henriette Bsec, Wednesday, April 3, 2013, 12:01pm; Reply: 35
Sounds good.. ;D
I have been  sick lately, first 2 weeks with brochitis and now full blown flu  :'(
I have been very little interested in food and not eating much, but reading your post this morning and I started to crave beef, so go some grassfed beef out of freezer and hopefully i'll be ok so I can cook it.
Posted by: Easy E, Wednesday, April 3, 2013, 2:05pm; Reply: 36
Quoted from Henriette Bsec


I have never seen it  :-/- but always wondered about it.

The A´s have A1 and A2 - why are we Bs so boring :P

I know as a rh- I need more protein and less grain than the rh+


I think A1 and A2 are just the main subtypes, there are more variations of A's out there.   There are specialized versions found in Africa if i remember right, i read about it on the internet awhile back, and they can't put anything on the internet that isn't true!  

I think there are also some slight subtypes of B's and O's too actually.

http://www.sankalpindia.net/drupal/subtypes-blood-group

Posted by: KimonoKat, Wednesday, April 3, 2013, 2:36pm; Reply: 37
Quoted from ruthiegirl
There aren't any subgroups of O's either! We're all OO; you Bs at least can be BB or BO.


Ah, but there 'are' O variants.  I learned that while attending the Stephanie Lazarus murder trial.  

The victim, Sherri Rae Rasmussen, had a rare blood type that she inherited from her father.  O1/O9  Very rare.  She had a weak expression of Type A in her blood.  Blood typing tests in 1986 (the year she was murdered) picked up the Type A in evidence samples, leaving law enforcement (at the time) to believe her blood type at the scene was mixed with that of her attacker.  

The fact that she had this rare blood type was not discovered until 2009 when Lazarus was arrested and crime scene evidence was tested for DNA.
Posted by: Amazone I., Wednesday, April 3, 2013, 2:54pm; Reply: 38
if I remember it well so A2=Ao ??)... so far better to stay with lamb for me ;) we do need more animal protein..... :D especially we the nonnies and can support a bit better all kinds of fatty acids where AA's might have more problems ??) (shrug)(smile)

I allow myselve to interact here even as being an A2B nonnie... but we share the same stress responses like the O's ....- catecholaminse are our culprits.... :-/ :o ;) ;D ;D
Posted by: Jane, Wednesday, April 3, 2013, 3:47pm; Reply: 39
San J  - I know what you mean about a good burger - for me it doesn't matter if it's beef or buffalo.  Med. rare, right off the grill with maybe sauteed onions and mushrooms and a little compliant goat's milk cheddar or mozzarella.  OMG, my mouth is watering.  
KK, interesting about the weak A expression in the Lazarus case.  I'd like to hear more about that..
Posted by: Possum, Monday, April 8, 2013, 11:12pm; Reply: 40
Quoted from KimonoKat


Ah, but there 'are' O variants.  I learned that while attending the Stephanie Lazarus murder trial.  

The victim, Sherri Rae Rasmussen, had a rare blood type that she inherited from her father.  O1/O9  Very rare.  She had a weak expression of Type A in her blood.  Blood typing tests in 1986 (the year she was murdered) picked up the Type A in evidence samples, leaving law enforcement (at the time) to believe her blood type at the scene was mixed with that of her attacker.  

The fact that she had this rare blood type was not discovered until 2009 when Lazarus was arrested and crime scene evidence was tested for DNA.
Sooo interesting...

Posted by: Easy E, Tuesday, April 9, 2013, 1:43pm; Reply: 41
Quoted from Amazone I.
if I remember it well so A2=Ao ??)... so far better to stay with lamb for me ;) we do need more animal protein..... :D especially we the nonnies and can support a bit better all kinds of fatty acids where AA's might have more problems ??) (shrug)(smile)

I allow myselve to interact here even as being an A2B nonnie... but we share the same stress responses like the O's ....- catecholaminse are our culprits.... :-/ :o ;) ;D ;D


A2 is a subtype of A with lesser amounts of A antigen and more H antigen than A1.  But for transfusion purposes and blood typing, it is A.  Maybe the needs are different, not sure (i am A2 actually) but i am bt A!

Ao is blood type A with the recessive silent o gene from a parent.  O is null and has H antigen , so if you have an an A or B from one parent, and o from another, you will be A or B blood type with a silent o you can pass on.  My Dad is AB (i guess A2B) and my mom is o, so i am Ao.  But i am BT A because o is transparent.

I am like you, i can ID with some O stuff, and also with A threads here too (for me) ;) You have the rarest blood type!
Posted by: Mistyveg, Wednesday, April 10, 2013, 2:44am; Reply: 42
As a Type B, Beef was always my favorite of meats; I love the taste of a good steak or burger, even if I don't eat it as much as I used to. I also love lamb chops, turkey burgers, fried salmon patties, flounder. Chicken I always had a love/hate relationship with, though for the longest time, it was more the latter...just didn't like it the way so many others in my family did. I don't eat much of it these days, even moreso, now knowing that it is not recommended for those with my type.
Posted by: san j, Wednesday, April 10, 2013, 2:51am; Reply: 43
Quoted from mistyveg
As a Type B, Beef was always my favorite of meats; I love the taste of a good steak or burger, even if I don't eat it as much as I used to.

But the question (for Bs and Os) is: does it energize you?
Posted by: Mistyveg, Wednesday, April 10, 2013, 3:39am; Reply: 44
Quoted from san j

But the question (for Bs and Os) is: does it energize you?


I don't know if I'd outright say it 'energizes' me; I guess it's more neutral, or maybe I'd have to gauge my energetic states a bit more after I've consumed beef.
Posted by: kitari, Wednesday, April 10, 2013, 4:00am; Reply: 45
Quoted from san j

But the question (for Bs and Os) is: does it energize you?
'

If I'm starting to feel run down or ill I eat some beef with broccoli and onions and it makes me feel much better.  But if I eat beef all the time I feel sluggish.  It could be because I can't find a local source for grass fed beef.

Posted by: san j, Wednesday, April 10, 2013, 4:16am; Reply: 46
Quoted from kitari
'

If I'm starting to feel run down or ill I eat some beef with broccoli and onions and it makes me feel much better.  But if I eat beef all the time I feel sluggish.  It could be because I can't find a local source for grass fed beef.


It could also be because eating *anything* "all the time" can produce that or some other less-than-energizing effect.

Posted by: kitari, Wednesday, April 10, 2013, 4:31am; Reply: 47
Quoted from san j

It could also be because eating *anything* "all the time" can produce that or some other less-than-energizing effect.



Sorry for being vague.  I feel sluggish if I eat beef the BTD recommended servings per week, not literally all the time.  :B :)

Posted by: jayneeo, Wednesday, April 10, 2013, 5:23am; Reply: 48
thanks for reminding me how much I love a beef patty. Will have to do it for lunch more often. I believe it does energize me.
Posted by: san j, Saturday, April 20, 2013, 1:28am; Reply: 49
Quoted from Henriette Bsec
If I feel moody  or burned out I crave beef and eggs as well as chocolate :B

My best calm me down meal is
Roast beef/steak with homemade sauce bearnaise( eggyolks, butter and white wine-herbs) servede with broccoli and maybe some starch potato or sweet potato ;D

Yeah: Beef and eggs. For me, not necessarily together, however.
Just had a wonderfully soft organic beefburger. Not quite fatty/flavorful enough for me, but still satisfying. I should have had a baked potato with it.
Maybe I should eat beef more often? I like it awfully.  :D

Posted by: jeanb, Saturday, April 20, 2013, 11:12am; Reply: 50
Love meat and makes me feel energized and happy.  If I am feeling sluggish, nothing like a steak or piece of medium rare meat to get me going.

If it is really cold out (-20C) beef soup/pot roast is my go to food.  My skin temperature gets really warm, even the dog doesn't snuggle because the heat I throw off is too much!!
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