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Posted by: Joy, Friday, July 6, 2012, 4:34pm
Is anyone taking any form of olive leaf extract or has anyone taken it in the past?

What are your thoughts about how it worked or didn't work?

It is interesting to read about this.  It seems to be a big part of the Mediterrean Diet and is more often taken in Europe, it seems, than the US.

check out:  http://www.olivus.com/faq_olive_leaf.htm

Joy
Posted by: PCUK-Positive, Friday, July 6, 2012, 5:24pm; Reply: 1
I have an unopened bottle, but the research i have done on it is very encouraging especially it seems for blood type A.
Posted by: Joy, Friday, July 6, 2012, 5:44pm; Reply: 2
PC,

On that website it lists conditions that Olive Leaf extract helps and I imagine there might be more than a few that could benefit each bloodtype in some beneficial way.

I do agree with you, though, that bloodtype A can be helped alot .  That's why I'm now taking it.

Joy
Posted by: 2degreespisces, Friday, July 6, 2012, 6:52pm; Reply: 3
I take it; have been taking it for years. It was actually prescribed my my oncologist, as an aid for general recovery. And yes, I'm in Europe, it's somewhat more of a common supplement here, I guess.
I have to say, I never noticed any specific positive effects. However, I'm still taking it daily.
Posted by: Joy, Friday, July 6, 2012, 10:16pm; Reply: 4
2degreespisces

Consider this.  Perhaps you haven't seen any positive effects is because it is a very essential part of  keeping you healthy.

Glad your doctor prescribed it for you.  

Joy
Posted by: Conor, Saturday, July 7, 2012, 3:51am; Reply: 5
Quoted from Joy
Is anyone taking any form of olive leaf extract or has anyone taken it in the past?

As an adjunct to daily cups of green tea and yerba mate, I take olive leaf extract together with holy basil for their adaptogenic and immunosupportive benefits. Extract made from fresh olive leaf has been found to have greater antioxidant capacity than green tea. I do cycle off of the olive leaf extract every 30 days for an entire 30 days, though, i.e., 30 days on/30 days off. I must think it's useful, as I continue to take it. :)
Posted by: Joy, Saturday, July 7, 2012, 4:28am; Reply: 6
Conor,

I did read on one of the informational sites about olive leaf extract that a person should go off it for a short period of time.

Supposedly during that time one's body can assimilate the positive effects of the supplement.

Taking this is something new for me but as I do researach and learn more I may be taking it for the long term as it seems to have an overall beneficical effect.

Joy
Posted by: Amazone I., Saturday, July 7, 2012, 5:29am; Reply: 7
I am on those at this very moment... 150mg's each capsule..not too high for an explomade...;) ;D... btw...here I even can take two at the same time.... :D
500mg's once upon the time knocked me out.... :( :X ;D ;D

btw. ol is a natural antibiotic.. I wouldn't take it for too long either..... :-/
Posted by: 2degreespisces, Saturday, July 7, 2012, 6:43am; Reply: 8
Quoted from Joy
2degreespisces

Consider this.  Perhaps you haven't seen any positive effects is because it is a very essential part of  keeping you healthy.


Yes, I considered the exact same thing, which is why I'm still taking the extract  :)  ;)

I will, in the near future, start the on/off schedule Conor describes; I'm curious to see what'll happen.

Posted by: Chloe, Saturday, July 7, 2012, 2:52pm; Reply: 9
I have olive leaf extract in pill form and tea bags from Olivus...been using it off and on for years...
I've used a wet tea bag on skin issues and it resolved quickly....I've found it boosts my immune system
if I feel like I might be catching a bug....but for the most part, I don't take the pills nor drink the tea
every day.  First is that I don't think the tea tastes very good....and plenty of vitamin D keeps my
immune system strong.  I think olive leaf is like grapefruit seed extract, tea tree oil, monlaurin
from coconut oil or any of the natural anti-microbials that can be used orally or topically.  The thing is, I believe you want the immune
system to be able to recognize pathogens and by always trying to kill them, might upset the natural
ecological system of the whole body.  I like to reserve these natural "bug killers" for times when my
body needs a little help. Otherwise, unless the body's immune system is struggling, I don't like trying
to kill off microbes because it's possible some of them have a function that is positive rather
than negative..  I'd rather support my system with plenty of fermented foods and get plenty
of probiotics. It depends on the state of your overall immune system.  I just don't think it's
a natural state of being to be perpetually working on killing off pathogens.  

It's a balancing act.  Sometimes bad bug populations need to be drastically lowered before you can add enough good bacteria to create the healthiest gut flora possible.  And if you've taken an
antibiotic, it's certainly a good idea to focus on getting good bacteria back into the body quickly.

Olive leaf extract will also lower blood sugar and blood pressure. It's made me dizzy before when I've taken too much.  I also think even natural anti microbials can cause a herxheimer reaction --
a die off of toxins where you wind up with a healing crisis....sometimes getting worse before
you get better.  

I'm cautious about taking anything I don't really need.  Sometimes the most impressive literature
gives us impetus to try new products......which is certainly understandable.  I have a healthy
respect for olive leaf and have found it to be super wonderful for things that might have led me
to require a need for an antibiotic...but if you're not sick, not feeling like your body is fighting
a virus/bacterial infection or recovering from a serious illness, I kind of think taking a natural
anti-microbial might not always be in your best interest.
Posted by: Joy, Saturday, July 7, 2012, 5:47pm; Reply: 10
Chloe,

Everything you posted is just about what I read during my research on olive leaf extract.  You are wise to have it on hand when you might be getting something like a cold or flu.  

As I said I never heard of it before but I am taking it now to kill off a virus and I feel it is the best thing to take.  Pharmeceutical antibiotics (which we've all taken at one time or another) may do the job but definitely kill off good bacteria.  It took doctors a very long time to recommend yogurt etc. to replace healthy bacteria.  

I've only taken it for five days now and I did feel a little weak at first (my high blood pressure was lowered probably )but I don't feel that anymore.

I also read the cautions on something new I'm taking and it described a syndrome some (not all) people could experience which is "too much detoxing".  I don't quite understand it but I respect the fact.

I do plan to take it for a while but I will also, as I've stated above, stay off it for a period of time.

Still think its very good stuff.  

I just browsed your post again and it seems I basically repeated what you wrote but didn't even realize it.


Joy








Joy
Posted by: Victoria, Saturday, July 7, 2012, 7:47pm; Reply: 11
I keep Olive Leaf extract available in my medicine cabinet, but don't take it daily.  My perspective is much like Chloe's in post #9.  :)
Posted by: Joy, Saturday, July 7, 2012, 10:06pm; Reply: 12
Victoria,

As I said to Chloe I'm very happy to hear you both have it on hand, just in case.  In the past someone would go to their doctor and perhaps he would prescribe an antibiotic.  So you take the prescription to the local pharmacy, wait to get it filled and start taking them.  Most of the time it is four tablets a day and you have to keep track of the time, etc.

How many times have I heard or read "You have to take the whole amount of pills in order for it to be effective"  Well, by the end of the first week usually you are feeling better and I have been guilty of not taking the last 3 or 4 pills.

I would much rather have something like olive leaf extract that is natural and will kill off viruses and bad bacteria.  It has more than one benefit that I've read about in my research.

I am taking it for a specific reason not just a willy-nilly other supplement to try and boost my immune system.

Joy
Posted by: Conor, Sunday, July 8, 2012, 3:15am; Reply: 13
Joy, I view olive leaf more as a food substance than an actual drug, which is why I don't take it on an ad hoc basis as I would a prescribed allopathic drug such as a pharmaceutical antibiotic (i.e., commence taking it at the first sign of illness for a specified number of days). But, just as with most things — e.g., even the majority of our foods are naturally cyclical due to the changing of the seasons — I think it's helpful to cycle usage of all things and go through regular periods of wash-out. In this way, equally balancing the yang period (active) of ingesting a substance with the yin period (passive) of abstaining from it. A Chinese proverb states: "The superior doctor prevents sickness; the mediocre doctor attends to impending sickness; the inferior doctor treats actual sickness." (Of course, I think that the superior doctor need also have motivated patients.) Anyhow, it's in line with this approach that I think the prophylactic use of certain phytoceuticals such as olive leaf while one is still in a state of wellness is pragmatic, rather than waiting until illness occurs to do so.

Oleuropein, which is a primary compound of olive leaf and looks to be its most widely-studied component to date, is a bitter, monoterpene glycoside claimed to have antibacterial, antifungal and antiviral potential. However, I don't believe that the benefits of olive leaf are solely limited to these three activities. For one, olive leaf appears capable of assisting the body's immune system, i.e., supports T lymphocyte production and is able to encourage phagocytosis. Whilst oleuropein is obviously important, according to the Handbook of Phytochemical Constituents of GRAS Herbs and Other Economic Plants: Herbal Reference Library by Dr. James A. Duke, 98 component phytochemicals can be extracted from raw olive leaves. The olive leaf contains antioxidant phenols that are uniquely different from the antioxidants, bioflavonoids, carotenoids and proanthocyanidins found in most other edible plants.

From another perspective, I find it interesting, and instructive, that the olive tree is so oft-cited in Western theological literature ...

Quoted from Wikipedia
The olive tree and olives are mentioned over 30 times in the Bible, in both the New and Old Testaments. It is one of the first plants mentioned in the Bible, and one of the most significant. For example, it was an olive leaf that a dove brought back to Noah to demonstrate that the flood was over. The olive is listed in the Hebrew Bible (Deut. 8:8) as one of the seven species that are noteworthy products of the Land of Israel . . . The olive tree and olive oil are mentioned seven times in the Quran, and the olive is praised as a precious fruit. Most notably, it is mentioned in one of the most famous verses of the Quran, Ayat an-Nur: "Allah is the Light of the heavens and the earth. The metaphor of His Light is that of a niche in which is a lamp, the lamp inside a glass, the glass like a brilliant star, lit from a blessed tree, an olive, neither of the east nor of the west, its oil all but giving off light even if no fire touches it. Light upon Light. Allah guides to His Light whoever He wills and Allah makes metaphors for mankind and Allah has knowledge of all things." (Quran, 24:35). The olive tree and olive oil health benefits have been propounded in Prophetic medicine. The Prophet Mohamed is reported to have said: "Take oil of olive and massage with it – it is a blessed tree" (Sunan al-Darimi, 69:103).

As the scientific research into the health benefits of Olea europaea piles up, it seems to simply confirm the germaneness of the following ...

"On each side of the river stood the tree of life . . . and the leaves of the tree are for the healing of the nations."
~ Revelations 22:1

By the way, if anyone is interested in making homemade olive leaf extract, here are instructions per William R. Fredrickson, Ph.D., author of The Tree of Life:

Quoted Text
HOW TO MAKE OLIVE LEAF EXTRACT

What you need: (1.) Half pound of whole, raw olive leaves that were air-dried at temperatures not exceeding 150° F; (2.) one gallon of distilled water; (3.) one 5- to 6-quart capacity slow cooker; and, (4.) Two 2-quart Mason-style glass bottles to hold 3-1/2 quarts of finished extract.

How to make: Place olive leaves in a mixing bowl and add water to cover, agitate. (If leaves are non-organic sourced, use preferred method of cleaning leaving during this step.) Place leaves in colander to drain, and rinse very thoroughly. Add olives leaves to slow cooker. Pour one gallon of distilled water into cooking pot and stir. Cover slow cooker, turn heat to low and let leaves cook for 12 hours. At the 8-hour mark, check the temperature. The ideal temperature is between 175° F and 185° F.

If the temperature exceeds 185 degrees F., turn off slow cooker and allow contents to cool to 175° F. At which point, turn slow cooker on again and set temperature to low. After this, monitor the temperature hourly, turning off slow cooker as necessary to maintain ideal temperature range.

After 12 hours, turn off the slow cooker if the temperature has been kept within the ideal target range for the entire 12 hours. Remove cooking pot from slow cooker and set on stove grate. Leave pot covered and allow contents to cool to room temperature.

If at the 12-hour mark the temperature is below 175° F, increase heat to high setting and allow to simmer for an additional hour or two, i.e., until content remain in the ideal target range.

Once contents have cooled to room temperature, use a sanitized cup to ladle out the olive leaf extract and distribute equally in glass jars. Pour the balance of liquid through a stainless steel mesh strainer to separate the liquid from the leaves, gently pressing the leaves with a wooden spoon to obtain the maximum liquid, and distribute this equally in glass jars (NOTE: as this 'pressed' liquid is often stronger, divide it equally between the glass jars). Discard the leaves. DO NOT reuse leaves. Cap glass jars tightly and immediately refrigerate. Use within two weeks.

How to take: For adults, use half a cup (4 oz.) twice daily. The best times to take extract are mid-morning and mid-afternoon. Do not take later than 6:00 p.m. due to the potential increase in energy one might feel.

Where to buy: Mountain Rose Herbs (http://www.mountainroseherbs.com/learn/olive_leaf.php) or Starwest Botanicals (http://www.starwest-botanicals.com/category/1-olive-leaf/).
Posted by: Joy, Sunday, July 8, 2012, 3:48am; Reply: 14
Conor,

If as you say it is a food substance then it is a food substance with multiple benefits.

I'm giving it every chance to "work its magic on me".  

You are a man, Conor, who certainly does back up your word.  Very interesting.

Even though your sources are somewhat eclectic they seem to effortlessly flow into a cohesive summary.

In other words, we get the picture.


Joy
Posted by: 2degreespisces, Sunday, July 8, 2012, 8:12am; Reply: 15
I like this idea of "cycling" very much, it strikes a chord for me.

I've been taking olive leaf extract  non stop for well over a year now (before that more on an occasional basis), but I will give the one month on/one month off a try.
Even in my condition I shouldn't get too reliant on supplements, it would be interesting to see if my body keeps up its defences when olive leaf is available in intervals, not continuously.

Joy, have you experienced definitie positive effects from taking the olive leaf supplements? As you take it for a specific reason, I was wondering if you found that it has specific effects on your health.
Posted by: Amazone I., Sunday, July 8, 2012, 9:09am; Reply: 16
Conor good statement.. but I observed...it depends of the amounts of ol and yup it has very toughy actions onto bacterial-virus and funghii relevant issues and really can be taken as a natural  antibiotic without any side effects sauf in us the explorers it needs less of the amounts ;) :D....
Posted by: Chloe, Sunday, July 8, 2012, 2:48pm; Reply: 17
When you take any "food source" and concentrate it to the point of it having anti microbial benefits
as strong as an antibiotic or anti fungal drug, then although it's not a pharmaceutical drug, it's a natural drug made from a plant....And this is why herbs are such a significant part of naturopathic
medicine...But even then, who gulps down a bunch of herbal formulas every day unless there is
a medical need to do so?   It would be one thing to have your own olive tree and take off a few leaves, dry them and drink the tea but even then, every day?  Many times a day?  The olive leaf pills
are highly concentrated...The pills have a high percentage of  concentrated isolated medicinal compounds (up to 24% in some cases). I still think it's best taken when needed.  

The BTD and GTD was designed to use foods as medicine...but not concentrated foods...whole foods.Our genoharmonic food combinations are powerful medicine....they can direct DNA to be read or coiled up and not read by the rest of the immune system.  Even when we follow a health
protocol, there is a recommendation of doing it for one month.  Not continually.

Don't forget how powerful the diet is....Be very careful trying to send signals to your cells that
perhaps aren't in your best interest.  

The diets don't push us beyond our limits...but strong botanicals sometimes do.

Amazone.....Olive leaf extract can have side effects...It can cause the body to have a powerful
herxheimer reaction....a healing crisis....It's been used for Dengue fever....severe illnesses....You
have to be careful of the dosing.....It caused my blood sugar and blood pressure to plummet
pretty quickly.  Just like all other herbs and botanicals which are powerful medicine, i have a healthy respect for olive leaf extract because it IS so powerful in being able to kill off microbes.  

The body then has to process dead microbes and every organ has to be able to detoxify the waste. I think you need to know how well your body clears toxins and gets rid of waste material.
The older we are, the more difficult this becomes and every genotype has different issues.  Just sayin' be careful with the dose of  olive leaf extract, especially if you're slow to detoxify.
Posted by: Joy, Sunday, July 8, 2012, 3:06pm; Reply: 18
2degreespisce,

Two things:  Take a look at a few of the websites available describing Olive Leaf Extract and its benefits, side effects, etc.  I'm not sure if you really need to stop taking it for a full 30 days and then start again.  

From what I understood it's more like stop for a week and let your body assimilate it into your system.  

Since I've just started taking it (literally five days ago) I haven't seen any significant changes yet.
I have been applying it to a skin issue on my leg and it does appear to be drying up some red itchy bumps I had.  

I find that my sinuses are clearer and I can breathe better.  Never had allergies but in Florida that's what you get with the tropical environment sometimes.

Joy
Posted by: Joy, Sunday, July 8, 2012, 3:15pm; Reply: 19
Chloe,

You have thoroughly described categorically where olive leaf extract belongs and luckily for us the BTD (or whichever diet we are following) works to better our health according to the foods we eat for our particular bloodtype, genotype, etc.

Everyone taking it should be aware of the side effect you are talking about.  I did read about it  and posted a caution but it doesn't happen to everyone.  Since we are individuals and this extract does target  certain conditions  internally we have to take it responsibily.

Conor made the excellent point to stop taking it for a period of time.

As I stated in the post above I've just finished my first five days.  Sinuses and breathing clearer which is something I read it does help but didn't expect to experience from using olive leaf.

Joy
Posted by: Chloe, Sunday, July 8, 2012, 3:28pm; Reply: 20
I would also like to add that the perfect balance for everyone is to be eating cultured vegetables..

The beneficial bacteria derived from eating raw cultured foods with a variety of good bacteria is how we wind up with a balanced flora.  

Just don't like "killing" stuff as much as I like giving my body what it needs to find it's own balance.

It's all about having a healthy gut which leads to building strong immune system.
Posted by: Amazone I., Sunday, July 8, 2012, 4:09pm; Reply: 21
Chloé...oui, je suis d'accord avec toi ;) but as I mentioned...all about the amounts.. I've felt the s.-effects by myselve once I used 500mg's at onec...terrible feeling...I also think that my bl.sugar crashed coz of this issue  :-/ :o :B so far I reduced it to 2x150mg's...even all two hours in case of any infection and no problems here at all  :D
I justamente have a problem with my right molar and use this stuff incl. boswellia serrata....all 2 hours or bs or ol... so far this works better then any other chemical bombe... ;) :D 8)
Posted by: Joy, Sunday, July 8, 2012, 4:11pm; Reply: 22
Chloe,

Like alot of us or maybe it's just me whenever I hear the word gut on this forum I think of Lola.
"Heal the gut" she always posts.  It is a mantra to heed!

I agree.  I used to make my own fermented cabbage juice but being the impatient person I am I now purchase Glaser Farms (in Miami, Fla) from the HFS.

I've seen it "a million times as they say" but walked right on down the line to other products.

It is certified organic, all raw vegan, handmade fresh and naturally fermented.  no salt added.
The first one I bought had ginger in it but I didn't care for it.  

Now I am getting only the green cabbage sauerkraut and I love it.

Joy
Posted by: Chloe, Sunday, July 8, 2012, 5:16pm; Reply: 23
Quoted from Joy
Chloe,

Like alot of us or maybe it's just me whenever I hear the word gut on this forum I think of Lola.
"Heal the gut" she always posts.  It is a mantra to heed!


Yes, that's the mantra I'm always hearing as well...which is why I keep watching youtube videos
about cultured vegetables...Easy to make, and so much better than just taking probiotics...We
are supposed to have 85% good bacteria in our guts and only 15% bad...For everyone suffering
from bacterial overgrowth, remember how far away most of us probably are from having that
much good bacteria.  Some of us are more vulnerable...some genotypes just have more bad
gut bacteria.  It's just trying to keep up...avoidng foods that feed bad bacteria and getting
plenty of pre-biotics so when good bacteria foods are eaten, it helps grow more good!

I know you all know what's best for your own bodies....Just sharing my point of view...always hearing Lola's voice (and Andrea's) in my head...."it's all about the gut".  This is a full time job :)

Posted by: ruthiegirl, Sunday, July 8, 2012, 11:37pm; Reply: 24
I completely agree with Chloe about herbal supplements. Some herbs are like food, and can be consumed in relatively large amounts. Others are very potent, and should be used with caution.

Olive leaf extract is an excellent choice if you have an infection somewhere in your body, be it a sore tooth or a bad cold. It may be useful long-term in treating chronic infections, such as Lyme disease, when your body's defenses have been overwhelmed and you need extra help for a while.

But I'd be concerned about taking it daily in relatively large doses. It could potentially kill off "good germs" in your gut if there aren't any "bad germs" in your body for the herb to act upon. Unbalanced gut flora means a weaker immune system.
Posted by: 2degreespisces, Monday, July 9, 2012, 5:48am; Reply: 25
Quoted from ruthiegirl
Olive leaf extract is an excellent choice if you have an infection somewhere in your body, be it a sore tooth or a bad cold. It may be useful long-term in treating chronic infections, such as Lyme disease, when your body's defenses have been overwhelmed and you need extra help for a while.


That's the exact reason why I started taking it; because my immune system suffered from all the chemo and I started developing infections.
Instead of overloading my body with antibiotics I started taking olive leaf extract.

I haven't had any immune problems for a year now, blood work is all in order, so this seems to be a good time to see what happens if I stop for a while.

Olive leaf is routinely prescribed as a supplement during chemo here in France; however, nobody ever talks about whether you should stop taking it at some point, or when to let your body take over again  :)





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