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Posted by: 312 (Guest), Sunday, June 10, 2012, 10:04am
Last month I went to my endo for yearly thyroid check.  Have been battling long periods before that, related to uterine fibroids and possibly the nearing of menopause.  Anyway, my tsh was way up from the last couple of years.  Last year in April it was 1.65, this year in May it was 5.94.  So she upped my meds from 88mcg to 100mcg.  So far so good, but I have been having such weird symptoms and I was getting frightened lately.  Had boughts of nausea and some vomiting.  Couldn't tell what was doing it.  Meanwhile my abdomen bloated up big time mostly up top near liver and my colon was hurting on and off on either side.  Didn't seem to be the fibroids.  My menses slowed way down this month and so far no period.  So I am connecting some of this to my change in meds.  But what I am now wondering is if some of this is from the Fukishima radiation that has been reaching California.  The other morning, I was making quinoa and apples that I wanted to sauté.  I ate some of the apple skin( I know that was bad idea now) and got really sick pretty fast.  So sick that I had to go to bed.  Hot and cold sweats, some vomiting.  So after a while I told my husband it's time to go see a md.  We went to a clinic here that afternoon and she ran some bloodwork and I am having a whole abdominal ultrasound on the 14th.   Told her about the meds change, fibroids, feelings of food poisoning type symptoms.  
But I am just wondering if there's something else besides the meds change, even start of menopause that is making me sick.  I looked up what foods are good for radiation poisoning and miso soup is on there, brown rice ( which I pretty regularly eat, and doesn't make me sick)  Teas have been bothering me too, hence wondering about that.  Lots of intestinal gas and cramping was happening, that comes and goes.  It's just so disturbing, I have a loss in energy, can't really go hiking, etc lately.  Feel awful.  Guess I will know more in a week or so, but for now I am going to try to incorporate some miso soup and seaweed that is bennie per swami, try some spirulina that I have and see if it helps.  Just wondering if anyone else in California is not feeling too well or having
recent thyroid issues also? :-/
Posted by: Goldie, Sunday, June 10, 2012, 1:43pm; Reply: 1
I am in New York - so far away.. I would say you are 10 years into menopause, even without symptoms I think it comes on much sooner, and 55 is late.. Hairloss and memory loss, weight gain are symptoms in my experience. Being tired is just one other symptom.. Any hot flashes? Getting up to the bathroom several times at night deprives me of sleep.    

Throwing up however is not, so it will be a good thing to have seen a doctor and rule out all that other stuff you are thinking of.  Emotions can make a person ill, and fear also.  I do hope that all will be ok and that you soon have answers to take away the fear, all the fears.  You could not possibly be pregnant? I would like to say that as funny, to cheer you just a little.. Feel better soon.
Posted by: Lola, Sunday, June 10, 2012, 3:37pm; Reply: 2
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try to incorporate some miso soup

try bone soup instead......remember you are an O
Posted by: 312 (Guest), Sunday, June 10, 2012, 3:38pm; Reply: 3
Awe Goldie, that is funny!  But no, but I "look" pregnant though.  Actually the area where my fibroids were feels smaller than in the past, but my upper abdominal stuff is disturbing.  I have thought of liver problems, gallbladder or pancreas problems, etc.  But a lot of these could happen when the thyroid is screwed up.  IBS symptoms, or celiac, so that maybe I need to avoid even spelt which I use since it's a bennie on my  Swami.  When I had my thyroid treated for a hot nodule in "97, I blew up in a similar manner to the way I am distended now.  I guess we'll know more after the ultrasound though.  I am going to watch what i eat and drink and figure out what is triggering this if I can.  
I am taking some spirulina and some eclipta that I ordered for the liver.  
Posted by: Victoria, Sunday, June 10, 2012, 5:14pm; Reply: 4
It couldn't hurt to avoid gluten completely for now and just see if there is any change.
Posted by: karen, Sunday, June 10, 2012, 7:16pm; Reply: 5
From my research, if you treat the thyroid before looking at the adrenals, you can cause a lot of problems. Stress can crash them so try upping your Vit. C and try a good B complex to see if that helps. When the adrenals are supported, the thyroid issue might resolve.

Posted by: Mrs T O+, Sunday, June 10, 2012, 8:35pm; Reply: 6
B5 (pantothenic acid) is very good for the adrenals. That is one B that I take extra of & feel I need it.
Posted by: Jane, Sunday, June 10, 2012, 8:41pm; Reply: 7
There's something that made your TSH go up so high.  Maybe the other symptoms are coincidental.I had my thyroid out in 1996 and also have ulcerative colitis so I have a lot of the same kinds of problems.  My thyroid cancer was cause by radiation to my tonsils as a baby.
Posted by: 312 (Guest), Sunday, June 10, 2012, 9:16pm; Reply: 8
We moved in February, and I started going downhill after that.  But I hadnt suspected my thyroid was the problem....after moving I just thought it was general stress of the move.  I will try a b,c stress vit I think, couldn't hurt.  But I keep hearing that the Fukishima radiation is in our state now so it made me wonder if there isn'ta connection...
Posted by: karen, Sunday, June 10, 2012, 11:05pm; Reply: 9
Paula, since you are an Explorer, I would suggest trying an "active" B complex. If your liver isn't converting your B vitamins into the active forms, you can't make a lot of the enzymes needed for metabolic work. P5P, the active form of B6 teams up with zinc to create a number of enzymatic processes. So maybe take a look at your zinc levels. Even if you think you are getting enough, maybe it's a case of not metabolizing it. (Something else, I read somewhere if you supplement P5P and zinc, don't take them together, but at opposite times of the day. Not sure if that is critical or not.)

Mrs. T is right about B5 (pantothenic acid) being great for the adrenals. The active form of B5 is pantethine. So if you try a B complex, you might do better on one that includes pantethine and P5P.

Posted by: 312 (Guest), Monday, June 11, 2012, 2:30am; Reply: 10
Lola, the miso is one of my genoharmonics, but along with several meats, seems strange combination.
Posted by: Lola, Monday, June 11, 2012, 6:12am; Reply: 11
make sure it has no added avoids......glad you are a secretor ;D

there is also rice miso, if soy were not on your avoid list
Posted by: Jane, Monday, June 11, 2012, 3:17pm; Reply: 12
I think I'd avoid soy with the TSH so high.  I've had jumps like that before but I don't have a thyroid.  Mine was removed in 1996 along with a parathyroid adenoma.  I had a tiny tiny thyroid cancer (luckily discovered because of the the parathyroid adenoma).  Ideal TSH is between 1 and 2.  Perhaps you might try another thyroid medication and you possibly need supplementation with T3 as well as T4.  Hopefully you have a good practitioner that is open to using T3.
Posted by: Jane, Monday, June 11, 2012, 3:18pm; Reply: 13
I should have added that I take a compounded T3 along with regular T4 and I'm monitored at least 2x a year.
Posted by: 312 (Guest), Monday, June 11, 2012, 4:47pm; Reply: 14
Since we moved about 3 hours away from my regular mds, maybe I can find some alternatives up here.
I'm working on it.  I will check out if I can get rice miso instead.  I looked at swami again, it recommends miso with several fish, not meat.  So I still think it might be a healthy meal to try.
Posted by: Goldie, Tuesday, June 12, 2012, 11:47am; Reply: 15
Years ago when I moved into a renovated house I got so sick within 4 month I did not think I would make it 2 more weeks.. at a doctor visit talking about entering a hospital I suddenly remembered that I am allergic to oak, and that I had refinished oak floors in that house.. It typically get a 'cold' when exposed and yes I has that also ..

I went home and hired 5 people to clean out my whole house from to room and wash every nook and wrinkle, and for me most IMPORTANT, I had them take two hair driers and blow through the duct of the heaters along the wall and used a vacuum cleaner on the down side to catch all the dust.. as it was, It was cold that fall and I was heating the house and reheating the oak dust inside the heating elements all day long.. no wonder I got sick!!!

I am telling you this to sit and think what it could be.. maybe mold, maybe emotional worry, maybe something in the house.... Can you move out for a week?  Can you afford to move to a motel? for em the trip to the hospital would have shown improvements, but upon returning to the house I would have gotten sick again.. MY remembering the normally seasonal allergies to oak dust, saved my health and life.. son after I could tell the difference but it took a long time to fully recover..

look for a source other than from your body.. Think, sniff, look, talk ... I just finally read the words // we moved.. sorry  :-/
Posted by: 312 (Guest), Tuesday, June 12, 2012, 2:02pm; Reply: 16
I was suspecting the water here.  We use a Brita and also Zero Pitchers, but I started buying bottled waters also.  Those taste the best. I was afraid of high chlorine in the water.  Even put in shower filters.  But I don't think it's that at the moment.  We are close to a lake, up the hill from it, but no neighbors between us and the water.  Too far to walk down to.  But the water in the lake is not too clean, lots of runoff from wineries, and past pesticide use from years back.  I don't go in the lake, at least not yet.  Has a lot of weird algae overgrowth also.  It's called Clearlake but the joke is it's totally not Clear!  This house was probably built in the mid 70's.  
I'll keep working on what might be up.  Going to do a gallbladder/liver flush today, tonight.  So eating lightly until 2pm, then flushing later on.  After following PC's thread, I thought it might help, can't hurt
Thanks Goldie!
Posted by: 312 (Guest), Thursday, June 14, 2012, 1:20am; Reply: 17
Still going for my upper and lower abdominal ultrasound tomorrow morning.  But I have a new theory.
Not radiation, but perhaps from anemia worsening gradually from heavy bleeding in March & part of April.  I think anemia actually effects the thyroid hormone levels.  I was taking some additional iron, like floradix yeast free, but I was worried about it's conflicting with thyroxine supplement.  So I think a lot of my symptoms may be from the anemia worsening.  I find out my blood work and ultrasound results next Monday, so I guess we'll see. Just being careful with diet and sups right now. :-/
Posted by: Goldie, Thursday, June 14, 2012, 8:47am; Reply: 18
all the best during all the test taking and great results after..
Posted by: 312 (Guest), Saturday, June 16, 2012, 11:56pm; Reply: 19
Well, I get some results on Monday afternoon when I go back to the doc, but while having the ultrasounds I was able to watch a tv screen.  So many fibroids, I really should have had them out a year ago when I had thecrappy insurance.   Now we are going to have work something out.  But what is more disturbing is that I have some ascites, so my liver is not alright.  
It may have been my liver all along that couldn't deal with the fibroids, anemia, taking iron supps, etc.  But anyway, trying to eat lightly according to explorer plan, focusing more on veggies and some fruits, watching
the heavy proteins, which seem hard to digest, lamb has been the worst, unless is small amounts.  I'll be back to report next week, will probably be sent to gyn surgeon, wish I knew then what I founding out now  :-/
Posted by: 312 (Guest), Tuesday, June 19, 2012, 3:51pm; Reply: 20
Going to have an alpha feto protein blood test this morning.   They are worried about cysts on my liver as possible cancerous lesions or metastases.  I am not too frightened at the moment, but it may be a long process of figuring out what is going on.  Will say more later.  Got to go now.
Posted by: Lin, Tuesday, June 19, 2012, 6:13pm; Reply: 21
Paula O,
good luck with liver tests.
A lot of what you are describing I've gone through, and after lots of work with different doctors found the adrenals/immune were a big factor.  Also it hit in  my late 40's with the changing of hormones, but didn't go through menopause until I was close to 54. All those hormones (adrenal/thyroid, estrogen etc) are connected and are a burden on the liver that has to clean the excess out.
Good luck with all the tests.
Posted by: 312 (Guest), Wednesday, June 20, 2012, 5:59am; Reply: 22
Thanks Lin,   the adrenal/immune thing would make alot of sense and seems like it could be the case for me too. Alot of my symptoms worsened when I tapered off most caffeine, except for a cup of green tea a day.
I would think all those heavier caffeine years were messing with mmy hormones, among other things also.
I hope we can figure it out soon enough!
Posted by: Lin, Wednesday, June 20, 2012, 9:08pm; Reply: 23
you mentioned eating apple skin.  If it was organic it might be okay.  But I discovered recently even organic apples might have some kind of wax on them (Whole Foods).  Rather disappointing. Perhaps this cause the sickness for you.
Posted by: 312 (Guest), Wednesday, June 20, 2012, 9:35pm; Reply: 24
Lin, I wish it was just that, but my liver area is quite enlarged now.  I'm pretty fightened by the idea that they mentioned cancer.  They want to do a cat scan next....Haven't been throwing up, but low grade fever every day too.
Posted by: Lin, Thursday, June 21, 2012, 12:08am; Reply: 25
Poor you, those Doctors often mention the worst case scenario and create a lot of anxiety.  There is no way to know and I hope/pray the cat scan will rule this out.  Do you use meditation or visulatization at all?  It might help you if you can do this and to visualize your liver area healing.
Do you know when you will do the test?
Posted by: AKArtlover, Thursday, June 21, 2012, 4:06pm; Reply: 26
This is from a Splankna practitioner sharing her joy about her client. I saw "thyroid" in this thread and although she shared this awhile ago, it popped into my head to share it here...
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I was working on a woman last month and the Holy Spirit led me to her thyroid and that it was malfunctioning. I asked her about it and several weeks prior she had been diagnosed with thyroid disease. We did another session and it tested a curse in her family line (three generations that she knew of has the same disease) and it was made to hinder her gift/call. Today she got retested and her levels are completely normal! To God be the glory!! "So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed." John 8:36

Amazing stuff. :)
Posted by: 312 (Guest), Thursday, June 21, 2012, 7:24pm; Reply: 27
Wow, that is amazing!  Don't have the appt for cat scan yet, going this afternoon to arrange it.  My Mom had thyroid issues and now my 28 year old son may have a problem with his T3.....seems generational.  :-/
Posted by: AKArtlover, Thursday, June 21, 2012, 7:41pm; Reply: 28
Spiritual and emotional realms have an epigenetic effect. Can be released...
Praise God that I have experienced the releases personally and He has used me to do amazing things with people.(pray)(dove)(dance)(woot)
Posted by: NancyEllen, Friday, June 22, 2012, 10:22pm; Reply: 29
Paula, what was your Reverse T3 when you had your thyroid labs done?
Posted by: 312 (Guest), Saturday, June 23, 2012, 1:01am; Reply: 30
I dont think reverse t3 was tested.  I wondered the same thing cause I read it goes up with stress( moving....). :-/
Posted by: NancyEllen, Saturday, June 23, 2012, 1:27am; Reply: 31
Check out this website:  

The ratio between TSH and Reverse T3 is very important.  I follow these folks on facebook and their yahoo groups.  They don't get into diet very much so I'm not a big follower but you can pick up some good info.

Posted by: Tea Rose, Saturday, June 23, 2012, 2:26am; Reply: 32
Paula - sorry to hear about all the problems you are having.  I hope you get some answers soon!  

Be as compliant as you can during these times of stress.

I will keep watching for your updates.

Tea Rose
Posted by: 312 (Guest), Saturday, June 23, 2012, 12:42pm; Reply: 33
Thanks Tea Rose! Nancy Ellen, I did some reading about reverse t3, one thing that can also increase it is anemia.  I've been anemic for a while now. Stopped the iron supps when my liver was acting up, but last night with dinner I took one.  Feel a bit better this morning.  Going to keep taking them in the later part of the day,
away from the thyroxine and maybe it will help something.  I think what I read was when anemic the t4 doesnt get where it needs to, or it pools in areas, so the revese t3 increases to get rid of excess t4.  Dont quote me, but it made sense.  Also had steak & green peas for dinner, still love my beef. ;)
Posted by: 312 (Guest), Monday, July 2, 2012, 12:02am; Reply: 34
large turmors in liver, kidney failure, doing fine in hospital hospice, jus want to say goodbye, its my time.v Loved being here! take care of your selves.  Srely Health is Wealth!  Keep it up timely!   :)
Posted by: Tea Rose, Monday, July 2, 2012, 12:35am; Reply: 35
Paula. WHAT?  Please email me.  Sending you love...

Of course Paula, I realize that you can't email me being in the hospital.  I was in a bit of shock as I guess we all are here.

God is good and I know you are resting in his hands.
Posted by: karen, Monday, July 2, 2012, 1:12am; Reply: 36
Paula, so shocked to hear this. You are such a caring member of this community and I want to say don't give up. I will pray for God to heal you, it is not impossible.  But I know you are a Christian and can be at peace no matter the situation. Whatever He chooses, remember, "Peace I leave with you, my peace I give to you. Not as the world gives do I give to you. Let not your hearts be troubled, neither let them be afraid." John 14:27

Posted by: Victoria, Monday, July 2, 2012, 2:25am; Reply: 37
Whatever the situation is for you, lots of love is flooding your way from the ones here who care so much for you.   :K)
Posted by: D.L., Monday, July 2, 2012, 2:51am; Reply: 38
Paula - I went back and reread your posts from June 10 until now. Somehow I feel like I know you, even though I am a relatively recent member here. It's hard to know what to say. I am heavy hearted for you. But God is in charge. He knows all. I have witnessed many miracles. I will say a prayer for you.
Posted by: Spring, Monday, July 2, 2012, 3:33am; Reply: 39
Paula, this is especially sad that we can't be there with you in person, but I hope so deeply that you can feel our care coming your way during whatever lies ahead.  Like D.L., I went back and read all your posts again and appreciate very much that you have shared all this with us. It helps us to share this part of your journey with you now. I know that a lot has undoubtedly happened since your last post before this one, and we can only partly imagine all that has transpired, but please know that we are thinking of you so much and hoping for the very best of everything for you. Of course, we all would consider it something to treasure if you feel up to being in touch with us here again.  :K) Thanks so much for your post today.  
Posted by: RedLilac, Friday, July 6, 2012, 2:31pm; Reply: 40
Paula: don’t give up hope, keep fighting it.  Try to stay as comfortable as possible.  Surround yourself with loving family and friends.
Posted by: Jane, Friday, July 6, 2012, 2:52pm; Reply: 41
I'm so sorry.  I just saw your last post Paula.  You are in my thoughts and prayers.
Posted by: NewHampshireGirl, Friday, July 6, 2012, 6:49pm; Reply: 42
Paula, you have my prayers, too.  I was just catching up on this thread and was shocked to see your recent post.
Posted by: Lola, Friday, July 6, 2012, 10:07pm; Reply: 43
she will always stay a true warrior to all

her sister wrote these

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God has given us each a mission here on earth and when we have succeeded in that mission our soul represents the dash, the memories we leave behind, the impacts we have made on others, the encouragement, love and lessons learned shared with others paints a true portrait of who we are.
Paula's wishes are that you embrace your time on earth and live each day in the moment. Have the courage to forgive, love one another and stay true to your faith, because this time on earth is the beginning of the rest of your lives.
Posted by: Spring, Saturday, July 7, 2012, 1:28am; Reply: 44
Posted by: Dianne, Saturday, July 7, 2012, 6:54pm; Reply: 45
No truer words were ever spoken! What a unique soul she is. :)
Posted by: AKArtlover, Monday, July 9, 2012, 2:58am; Reply: 46
wow. (dove)(pray)
Posted by: Karma, Monday, July 9, 2012, 4:41am; Reply: 47
Very beautiful yes.
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