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Posted by: DoS, Wednesday, May 9, 2012, 4:38pm
I have a lot of trouble sleeping. Sometimes I can't sleep because I think low blood sugar, and then sometimes in the morning I start to sleep. When my blood sugar seems right I sleep but then sometime in the morning I get up to pee once or twice and it is an odd smell; I'm not sure I can define what a "sweet" smell is but can say during the day I get more of a no smell to burnt Cheerios sometimes. However if I eat too much I don't sleep until I pee a few times later in night/morning.

During the day I don't seem to get the possible sweet smell; maybe if I eat way to much (like at a potluck or something) food including lots of sugar or something.
Posted by: 14442 (Guest), Wednesday, May 9, 2012, 6:29pm; Reply: 1
Try not to snack between meals.
Posted by: Lloyd, Wednesday, May 9, 2012, 8:11pm; Reply: 2
Diabetes is not something to take casually. Might want to consider an A1c and/or fasting glucose. Use the results to form a plan, of which diet is important.
Posted by: DoS, Wednesday, May 9, 2012, 8:21pm; Reply: 3
I usually eat nothing between meals. I mean like 90% of the time.
Posted by: ruthiegirl, Wednesday, May 9, 2012, 11:23pm; Reply: 4
If your blood sugar is too low at bedtime, you might need a bedtime snack.

I agree with Lloyd's suggestion to have some lab tests to see if anything more serious is going on.
Posted by: DoS, Thursday, May 10, 2012, 1:57am; Reply: 5
I don't see what it would matter if I got tested? I'd just have to watch what I eat, like I do.

Besides they always check that and say I'm fine.

My blood sugar is often too high or too low, at bed time. So it seems anyway.
Posted by: Kumar, Thursday, May 10, 2012, 8:28am; Reply: 6
Blood glucose has its own cycle (mediated by type, quantity, timing of food and drink) and it is highest one hour after meal and then it declines and reaches its low and again climbs and so on. It is very important to know if you have diabetic predisposition or not. (You can also use fingertips method to find out). Assuming that your are eating your normal meal and the glucose fluctuation (on either side) is way beyond the "normal", it could be an early signal that you have inherited diabetic tendency and it is good to watch and be careful in selecting the type, quantity, and timing of food and drink.
Posted by: geminisue, Thursday, May 10, 2012, 12:00pm; Reply: 7
Breakfast about 7:00AM
Snack about 10:00 AM
Lunch at noon
Snack about 2:30 PM
Dinner between 5:30 & 6:00 PM
Check Glucose every evening at 8:00 PM, if below 100 have a snack.

Diabetes has a tendency to drop about 3:00 AM and you need enough in your body to cover that drop because you should be sleeping at that time.  It will raise again after that.

People with high glucose, has a tendency to be eating too many carbohydrates, especially in the evening!  It is important to check and see what your glucose is doing, so you know how to cover it appropriately.

All people do not need the carbohydrate/protein snacks during the day, so check with your diabetic adviser about this. If you don't have a diabetic update yearly, you are not receiving the most important updates found.

Healthy carbohydrates are the ones low in carbohydrates, that way you are getting the nutritional needs covered at the same time as keeping your diabetes in control

Counting, and weighing and using measuring cups and measuring spoons are important, as our mental judgement of food is NOT always correct.  That 1/4 cup more may up our intake too much, especially if not several times a day.

If you eat grain, have in the evening, in the right portion, if your glucose is too low to go to bed.  I won't go to bed until it is 100 or more.  Remember if you eat 15 grams of carbohydrates 1-2 hours later it will equal 50  (15=50)and this rate is for a person of normal weight calculated on 150 lbs.  A is a chart (I'm not sure where, now) that has a list of coverage for overweight people.  Example:At 240 lbs I need 40g carbohydrates to equal 50 later.  Were each unique and need to know what our own body does with the situation. Remember 8:00 PM check glucose.
Posted by: Goldie, Thursday, May 10, 2012, 12:24pm; Reply: 8
If you have diabetics in your family assume you may someday have it also, but it has not much to do with low blood sugar.. Test for it and then forget about it.. spend your life living, not worry.  

Not sleeping can be from many reasons.. the body gets rid of whatever in its own best wisdom, most having to do with hormones.  As a 'problem', you are more likely to create one in your own mind, becoming uneasy about doing what you SHOULD do or not .. it can create a certain silent inner anxiety to keep you awake even.  

What do you eat and when, might make a big difference.  Not eating between meals is near plain dumb advice and speaks more of power, rather than maintaining balance.  It goes against all that the body is designed for (especially for low blood sugar or diabetics to be-- . ) It creates dysfunctions in the mind and body and might cause the effect of becoming preoccupied with food and living.  

At 26 there is little need to ever worry about food, other than eating few Avoids..

Certain foods can make one pee at certain times.  Take notes of what you eat for 2-4 weeks, then also note how you sleep and what other issues might be at work, like hormones/your love life and emotional peacefulness.  The answers will be in that list.  Room temperature might make a big difference.  Where you being wakened by others having needed attention, and maybe now that memory messes with your mind?  What is work like? any worries?  Can you meditate when being awake thus do your self some good rather than create worry?

The release of fluids is all hormone related and needs a look at, but most likely, all tests will show perfectly ok, and you will outgrow the issue in a few months.   As A  you are showing normal signs of certain weaknesses - the antidote is power food.  Is it worth just accepting that, eating every 3 hours, and keeping your blood sugar levels up in this healthy way is at the heart of this dieting way of living. Not eating in a deliberate way, is punishing to your body.  Eating does not mean loads but something, or have a nourishing drink.  Eating foods between can be some left over food from lunch or breakfast, no need to 'add' foods, just create more 'balance'.  This Balance Thing for A's is one you have to figure out.

Even if ever you should get diabetes, it does not mean that you stop living normal now. The diet here is all you need to eat.  At your age you are even allowed some extras .. listen to your body.  

    
Posted by: SandrAruba, Thursday, May 10, 2012, 8:39pm; Reply: 9
I sleep better when I eat something 30 minutes before I go to bed. Just something small and light, like a cracker. Has to be carbs, not too much protein.
Posted by: DoS, Friday, May 11, 2012, 12:29am; Reply: 10
Since I'm getting more nutrients from supplementing, I don't have any reaction after eating with the palpitations or anything. It is just the weird pee smell and always getting up in the wee morning hours to urinate that is annoying.

It seems like if I eat perhaps a little more than I should, awhile later I'll urinate and get a little bit of the smell (could be like 3 hours later, varies).

My great uncle is the only diabetic in our family. I obviously have some sorta issue with metabolism since I'm fat no matter what I do, no matter how healthy I am, no matter how much I exercise.
Posted by: Goldie, Friday, May 11, 2012, 1:22pm; Reply: 11
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My great uncle is the only diabetic in our family. I obviously have some sorta issue with metabolism since I'm fat no matter what I do, no matter how healthy I am, no matter how much I exercise.


Maybe so, but maybe it is preventable..

NOW from your words.. : I eat perhaps a little more than I should,.... why do you do that?  

Find ways to satisfy the need for over eating.. having to get up when over weight only shows that your hormones can not keep up with your food intake and body metabolism..

What are you eating?  Have you tried eating only Diamond Super Beneficials and Beneficials and NO other foods?

I am not A so I have no idea, but I find that this is my only way to make me feel ok.. any other foods are punishment.  

I will PM you..

Posted by: Spring, Friday, May 11, 2012, 5:49pm; Reply: 12
Quoted from DoS
Since I'm getting more nutrients from supplementing, I don't have any reaction after eating with the palpitations or anything. It is just the weird pee smell and always getting up in the wee morning hours to urinate that is annoying.

It seems like if I eat perhaps a little more than I should, awhile later I'll urinate and get a little bit of the smell (could be like 3 hours later, varies).

My great uncle is the only diabetic in our family. I obviously have some sorta issue with metabolism since I'm fat no matter what I do, no matter how healthy I am, no matter how much I exercise.


I wonder if it isn't the supplements you're smelling. They can have a very strong effect on urine smell and color. And certain ones can definitely affect the volume!
Posted by: Lin, Friday, May 11, 2012, 9:18pm; Reply: 13
I get a weird smell after asparagus but it isn't sweet.  Perhaps as someone else said it is caused by a supplement, or something else you are eating/drinking and possibly your liver/kidneys are not processing well.  
If your labs for sugar test are okay, you perhaps have to play detective and see what you mgiht be consuming that could be causing this to happen.
Lin
Posted by: Jenny, Wednesday, May 30, 2012, 5:43am; Reply: 14
Quoted from Goldie
If you have diabetics in your family assume you may someday have it also, but it has not much to do with low blood sugar.. Test for it and then forget about it.. spend your life living, not worry.  



At 26 there is little need to ever worry about food, other than eating few Avoids..





Even if ever you should get diabetes, it does not mean that you stop living normal now. The diet here is all you need to eat.  At your age you are even allowed some extras .. listen to your body.  

    

Beautiful wisdom Goldie.
My take for Dos .......; get plenty of check ups, keep records, enjoy your life. I am old enough to be your grandma Dos, and still having a ball, with diabetes totally under control and barely thought about these days because the diet & exercise takes care of it completely.If in doubt, find a Dadamo naturopath.

Posted by: Conor, Thursday, May 31, 2012, 8:56pm; Reply: 15
Thought this interesting in terms of its 'regulation' potential ...

Quoted from American Diabetes Association | http://professional.diabetes.org/
Glass of Red Wine a Day 'Treats Diabetes by Helping Body Regulate Blood Sugar Levels'

A small, daily glass of red wine could help control adult diabetes, scientists claim. Red wine, according to a new study, contains high concentrations of polyphenols that help the body regulate blood sugar. The study, reported in the Royal Society of Chemistry Journal Food & Function, did not look at the effects of wine on people, but the authors believe that moderate drinking as part of a controlled diet could protect against type 2 diabetes. Past studies have shown that natural polyphenols, found in grape skins and wine, can help the body control glucose levels. The new study, conducted by a team from the University of Natural Resources and Applied Life Sciences, Vienna, compared the polyphenol content of 12 different wine varieties and higher polyphenol levels in red wines. The investigators then looked at how polyphenols interact with cells in the human body, focusing on the receptor PPAR-gamma, which is involved in the development of fat cells, energy storage, and the regulation of blood sugar. The polyphenols in wine were found to bind to this receptor. Prof. Alois Jungbauer said, "Moderate is the equivalent of a small glass each day for women, and two for men. Our big problem is to convey the message of a healthy lifestyle because too much wine will cause diabetes and obesity."
Posted by: 14442 (Guest), Friday, June 1, 2012, 3:05pm; Reply: 16
What are your fat options as per genotype, SWAMI etc- fat is great for helping to reduce blood sugar.
Posted by: stephanieelisej, Thursday, June 28, 2012, 2:18am; Reply: 17
I'm 'suffering' from the same problem. I guess because you're a different genotype/person my own personal strategies may not work or be suited to you; but believe me I feel your pain ! :(
Posted by: Joyce, Thursday, June 28, 2012, 7:51am; Reply: 18
Quoted from 14442
- fat is great for helping to reduce blood sugar.


I think there may be a genotype connection here also - I'm not diabetic but do check my fasting blood glucose sometimes just to check how diet is affecting me.
Fat, oils and protein most definitely affect this more than carbs seem to.
The liver is all important re pre-diabetes IMO anyway.
Posted by: DoS, Thursday, June 28, 2012, 9:50pm; Reply: 19
Quoted from stephanieelisej
I'm 'suffering' from the same problem. I guess because you're a different genotype/person my own personal strategies may not work or be suited to you; but believe me I feel your pain ! :(


What is your bloodtype? I've found some stuff that helps.

For me I think it mostly comes from not digesting food properly.

What are your strategies?

I find carbohydrates are like what affect me. Protein, fats, and oils only make me feel better. (I can't absorb enough of them)
Posted by: kauaian, Thursday, June 28, 2012, 10:03pm; Reply: 20
Quoted from DoS
I don't see what it would matter if I got tested? I'd just have to watch what I eat, like I do.

Besides they always check that and say I'm fine.

My blood sugar is often too high or too low, at bed time. So it seems anyway.


You suspect but haven't confirmed this?  I have the same problem so let me know if u find out something.  I eat mostly compliant foods myself & my sleep patterns have been horrible since I reached a certain age. I had no idea younger people experience it & now I'm wondering if maybe this is NOT age related.
Posted by: DoS, Thursday, June 28, 2012, 10:07pm; Reply: 21
Quoted from kauaian


You suspect but haven't confirmed this?  I have the same problem so let me know if u find out something.  I eat mostly compliant foods myself & my sleep patterns have been horrible since I reached a certain age. I had no idea younger people experience it & now I'm wondering if maybe this is NOT age related.


Do you exercise? I don't know a Gatherer alive that has problems with blood sugar that avoids wheat and exercises them self very intensely.
Posted by: kauaian, Thursday, June 28, 2012, 11:29pm; Reply: 22
I don't have blood sugar problems according to my blood tests, am very active love sports, biking, body boarding, have to walk 2 active dogs daily.  Wouldn't call it intensely but people comment I'm in great shape. I also avoid wheat like the plague so who knows.....
Posted by: DoS, Sunday, July 1, 2012, 12:46am; Reply: 23
Hm I don't know... perhaps a blood level check would be advisable. You might suffer from one of the anemias or something.
Posted by: stephanieelisej, Sunday, July 1, 2012, 10:40am; Reply: 24
What type of fats do you digest/absorb well ? Coconut oil ? I hear its great for BTA's ! I have to avoid it but find that I do well with polyunsaturated fats like grapeseed oil.


For me, personally, in order to have a semi-refreshing and relatively undisturbed I need to ensure that:


-Eaten enough protein at dinner time (+ low GI carbohydrates / fats / fiber/salt). Keeping well fueled overnight is really a big issue for me.

-Have a small amount of chromium before bed; i.e. 1/2 a multi vitamin

-I go to the bathroom right before going to sleep - kind of obvious but If I occasionally forget to I often regret it halfway into the night

-In winter (OK, all year round unless its really really hot) I wear socks to sleep, basically because I used to as a child and also because I recall my mom saying 'if my feet are cold I have to go to the bathroom more' (she was referring to our tiles in the house / cold feet.

-Oh and I always take HCL/betaine/gentian with meals so I can digest whatever I eat. I have very low stomach acid so I supplement with extra nutrients to make sure that I'm covered.

- I should mention that I'm on medications to stop me loosing too much liquids, as I was loosing 6 - 7 quarts per day. I'm not diabetic or BIG or anything at all; just in case anyone was wondering.


Anyway, those things tend to work for me, but I'm still getting up about once per night, which over time really makes me fatigued during the day. I hope these suggestions help you in some way ! xx  
Posted by: Lola, Sunday, July 1, 2012, 3:03pm; Reply: 25
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What type of fats do you digest/absorb well ? Coconut oil ? I hear its great for BTA's ! I have to avoid it but find that I do well with polyunsaturated fats like grapeseed oil.


try a swami whenever possible to find out how food rates for you individually


have you read the genotype diet or change your genetic destiny?

wish I was your age when swami came along......I had to do it the hard way
Posted by: DoS, Sunday, July 1, 2012, 6:35pm; Reply: 26
I urinate too much as well.

Coconut oil makes my face super red, and I feel terrible for a bit.

I like grapeseed oil. Is it good for me? I don't know. I do know if I can find a way to ingest a lot of omega 3 oil then everything is better but... thinking about drinking olive makes me want to hurl. Using bread to dip in it doesn't work that well, too much carbs. Fish... meh. Kinda complicated. I have to eat a lot because I don't seem to digest enough of it. I'm going to try a little more lecithin when I can with oils. Maybe it'll help. I seriously wonder if my liver is just not working it right.
Posted by: Spring, Sunday, July 1, 2012, 7:29pm; Reply: 27
DOS, what about Chia seed, hemp seed, spiced/herbed oils on salads, on cooked veggies! My problem is the opposite of yours. I have so many different ways to ingest delicious oils, I have to be very careful! (smile)
Posted by: Spring, Sunday, July 1, 2012, 7:39pm; Reply: 28
Sleep apnea is always something to consider if a person has prolonged difficulty sleeping through the night. ESPECIALLY, if blood pressure rises at night, or that a person is overweight. Sleep apnea can ruin a person's life and maybe someone else's, too, if they fall asleep driving.  :o The lesser evils are feeling tired all the time, weight gain, feeling sleepy all day, craving carbs, feeling unmotivated, panic attacks, depression, irritability............
Posted by: DoS, Sunday, July 1, 2012, 10:23pm; Reply: 29
My body doesn't seem to care when I eat lots of nuts and stuff. Nothing happens.

I put olive oil on stuff after cooking, eggs, veggies, whatever.



Posted by: Serenity, Sunday, July 1, 2012, 11:33pm; Reply: 30
Quoted from DoS
I urinate too much as well.

Coconut oil makes my face super red, and I feel terrible for a bit.

I like grapeseed oil. Is it good for me? I don't know. I do know if I can find a way to ingest a lot of omega 3 oil then everything is better but... thinking about drinking olive makes me want to hurl. Using bread to dip in it doesn't work that well, too much carbs. Fish... meh. Kinda complicated. I have to eat a lot because I don't seem to digest enough of it. I'm going to try a little more lecithin when I can with oils. Maybe it'll help. I seriously wonder if my liver is just not working it right.


DoS, both coconut & grapeseed oils are avoids on my swami.  But olive, faxseed, walnut, apricot, evening primrose, blackcurrent, cod liver (eww)  oils are diamonds and I am allowed 5 tablespoons per week!  Given I am an NN I cannot digest saturated fats, it would definately make my liver sluggish!  But nuts and seeds wouldn't make me feel bad.
Posted by: DoS, Sunday, July 1, 2012, 11:48pm; Reply: 31
I haven't had grapeseed in years, I just enjoy it.
Posted by: stephanieelisej, Monday, July 2, 2012, 7:30am; Reply: 32
DoS, Coconut oil makes half my body go super red - Its an avoid that I simply must avoid! Wow we're so similar ! (which is funny because we're opposite blood types)



Personally, I think my liver is not working so well - which is such a shame considering the organic lifestyle I live, and supplements I take specific to liver health.
Posted by: stephanieelisej, Monday, July 2, 2012, 7:31am; Reply: 33
Quoted from Lola


try a swami whenever possible to find out how food rates for you individually


have you read the genotype diet or change your genetic destiny?

wish I was your age when swami came along......I had to do it the hard way


I actually have SWAMI / ER4YT encyclopedia/BTD x 2/GTD x 2 ..... plus another BTD fourms acc. (shut down my email & lost access...whoops)
Posted by: kauaian, Monday, July 2, 2012, 11:51pm; Reply: 34
Quoted from stephanieelisej
DoS, Coconut oil makes half my body go super red - Its an avoid that I simply must avoid! Wow we're so similar ! (which is funny because we're opposite blood types)



Personally, I think my liver is not working so well - which is such a shame considering the organic lifestyle I live, and supplements I take specific to liver health.


U can have coconut oil?
Posted by: stephanieelisej, Wednesday, July 4, 2012, 1:37am; Reply: 35
Quoted from kauaian


U can have coconut oil?


Nope ! Just tried it a few years ago. BIG mistake.
Posted by: DoS, Wednesday, July 4, 2012, 4:09am; Reply: 36
I think I got it all figured out...  pyroluria and IBS-C.
Posted by: stephanieelisej, Wednesday, July 4, 2012, 4:24am; Reply: 37
Oh wow, we thought I have that but I can't do the test...  Have you seen the dietrich klinghardt  protocol ??
Posted by: DoS, Thursday, July 5, 2012, 5:35pm; Reply: 38
Quoted from stephanieelisej
Oh wow, we thought I have that but I can't do the test...  Have you seen the dietrich klinghardt  protocol ??


I'm not sure what to look at, you'd have to provide a link.

As far as pyroluria, I don't have $ to get tested so I'm on my own. It explains a lot about me though. Plus I had zinc, and B6 is cheap. I know you can over-do B6 but if you are careful and back off at any sign of tingle, you should be ok.
Posted by: stephanieelisej, Friday, July 6, 2012, 1:53am; Reply: 39
I like to take zinc before bed and I use both forms of B6.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-z3kRDYcvhA - here is his presentation on KPU and lyme disease.


I found out that due to 'peeing too much' I'm low on zinc, magnesium, sodium etc. actually in the cells, not just serum levels.

I can't test for KPU either because you have to come off all supplements containing B6 + zinc, which for me, would be an issue right now.

There is this really good b-group formula I love, it has both P-5-P and regular B6 (pyridoxine HCl) in it together with all the others which is good if you loose a lot of water soluble nutrients like I do. Its about $10 per 100 caps.

Hope you get better soon  :)
Posted by: DoS, Friday, July 6, 2012, 6:39pm; Reply: 40
Quoted from stephanieelisej
I like to take zinc before bed and I use both forms of B6.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-z3kRDYcvhA - here is his presentation on KPU and lyme disease.


I found out that due to 'peeing too much' I'm low on zinc, magnesium, sodium etc. actually in the cells, not just serum levels.

I can't test for KPU either because you have to come off all supplements containing B6 + zinc, which for me, would be an issue right now.

There is this really good b-group formula I love, it has both P-5-P and regular B6 (pyridoxine HCl) in it together with all the others which is good if you loose a lot of water soluble nutrients like I do. Its about $10 per 100 caps.

Hope you get better soon  :)


What supp is that? How much B6 is in it? I too pee, probably too much. I think it is mostly a function IBS-C though. My gut flora is off all the time because of inflammation interfering with natural digestion issues. Blood thinners help some, but I'm about to get this; the 95% regular stuff works really well for me in high doses but this stuff has bromelain for absorption etc. I had to take pretty high doses of the regular stuff but my whole body responds.

It sure seems like I'm an explorers, and I've lost some weight. I'm not that big under the bit of fat I got on me. The confusing part is just how big my ribcage is, but that might be a function of inflamed system. I once ate pineapple (lots), turkey, brown rice, carrots, peas, onion, broccoli, spelt bread, ghee, olive oil, mozzarella, flax seed, and yogurt, while doing NOTHING physically. All my chest congestion went away (it hurt for awhile, just like if I do exercise that is remotely hard, it hurts some, but then my heart pumps better etc, feel better, happier, etc). I think I was getting enough of the right foods when I did that, and everything started working again. The keys were B6 from turkey, manganese from spelt, zinc Solaray Yeast Cleanse, and lower inflammation from the Yeast Cleanse as well with its Grapefruit Seed Extract combined with regular pineapple. Plus my inflammation was lower because prior to that I wasn't eating much at all. My body sometimes lowers inflammation when I sit and do nothing, because of adrenal fatigue I think.

My usual old approach to the explorer eating has never been anti-inflammatory based. I just tried to eat lots of protein. My guess is it failed a lot due to the fact that when you don't properly digest meat etc it doesn't do well on your system, especially say if you were low on vitamin K. At this point I think even a Type O blood person could have Type A problems from eating lots of regular meat if they had high inflammation, low stomach acid, low digestive juices biles etc, and lack of vitamin K. However I know that high omega 3's is like one of ways in the past that gave me much more regular digestion (but not perfect). My skin was also great then. It all points towards liver function with fats and lack of fat soluble vitamins too.

Biggest regret, even if I finally lose all the weight (and end up being pretty trim) is the side affect of pyroluria as a child is I have some stretch marks that started when I was only chubby as a child. I didn't even have to get obese or anything and it happened.

Posted by: DoS, Friday, July 6, 2012, 6:42pm; Reply: 41
Oh and how much B6 do you take? How is your digestion?
Posted by: stephanieelisej, Friday, July 6, 2012, 9:17pm; Reply: 42
25mg / 10 mg per cap; heres the link:
http://www.iherb.com/Jarrow-Formulas-B-Right-100-Veggie-Caps/110

Yep, as an explorer I've had to cut down meat (red meat) to once per day, and only a small serve like 3 oz

Fish seems to agree with me much more ! My digestion is 'so-so'; I avoid fatty foods, eat smaller serves of things, use HCL or ACV sometimes -

The stretch marks could be as a result of low zinc. See how you go !

Curcurmin is the best, I LOVE it ! I use Life Extension super bio curcurmin.

Adrenal fatigue is the worst :( .... I've found good quality sleep & a regular routine/schedule helps the most; and avoiding stressful situations + people.

My ribcage is huge too; I have no idea why.  :-/
Posted by: DoS, Friday, July 6, 2012, 10:32pm; Reply: 43
That isn't even enough B6 to come close to helping with pyroluria.

Being low on B6 allows congestion build up in the chest. When I exercise hard it helps it clear out but it hurts. Also I think some explorers just have biggest rib cages. It must be from mingling with warriors or something. It doesn't show up on people with way more muscles. On an ecto-meso though it is obvious.

If you have pyroluria you need to take 100mg increments. It takes me way more 300mg at least to stop the queezy feeling. You have to stop increasing after your stomach settles down, and before you get tingles in arms and legs. If you get tingle you have to decrease or suffer nerve damage.

The stuff I just linked to, works like a hundred times better than the NOW brand curcumin. I don't have to take much for same effect.
Posted by: stephanieelisej, Saturday, July 7, 2012, 2:58am; Reply: 44
Thats true; but, I also take P-5-P by itself & a multi which also contains B6. And for a while, I was on extra B6 in a magnesium formula and liver formula. In total it works out to be quite a bit. I'm on medication now though so I'm not loosing so much fluids. I had white spots on my fingernails for a while though recently so I'm pretty sure I'm more zinc deficient than ever before.

I found the B group complex really helped initially though when I was loosing like 7 quarts per day.

Yep I try not to take NOW products because they (apparently) contain GMO's. I like to go with Thorne, Life Extension or Jarrow. Doctors best seem to be pretty good too :)  

According to a forum I was reading, P-5-P in capsules is the best, so I'll remember to order that instead of tablets next time.

Yep, you're right, Its an explorer thing I'm sure.
Posted by: DoS, Saturday, July 7, 2012, 5:30am; Reply: 45
I'm not opposed to NOW or GMO entirely, just mostly. The business practices bother me more than some of the GMO food does. I just know that the new stuff works much better. I would say their absorption rate on their website is probably accurate. I can feel my digestive juices work like right away, instead of waiting for like a day for a reaction.
Posted by: stephanieelisej, Saturday, July 7, 2012, 10:14pm; Reply: 46
The product looks amazing !! :)
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