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Posted by: Patty H, Thursday, May 3, 2012, 2:14am
In other words, an Explorer can be any ABO type.  Does an O type Explorer have the same diet as an A type, B type and AB type Explorer in general?  Particularly on the big things like wheat, dairy, corn, sugar and coffee.
Posted by: Johnny B., Thursday, May 3, 2012, 2:35am; Reply: 1
There are many similarities with a few adjustments.  Just look at the example:
http://www.dadamo.com/SWAMI%20GenoType%20__%20Jane%20Public.pdf
Type A's would have peanuts on the superfood list...
Posted by: Johnny B., Thursday, May 3, 2012, 2:43am; Reply: 2
The models in the Genotype book are composites of different blood types.  For example, only O's can be Hunters, but the Gatherer diet in the book is a compromise between O's and B's.  So naturally, the Explorer diet moved to SWAMI would have to make the most changes.
Posted by: Possum, Thursday, May 3, 2012, 2:44am; Reply: 3
Quoted from Patty H
In other words, an Explorer can be any ABO type.  Does an O type Explorer have the same diet as an A type, B type and AB type Explorer in general?  Particularly on the big things like wheat, dairy, corn, sugar and coffee.
This was my observation/question a few days ago... ??) They can't have really imo  :-/ ;)
Posted by: ABJoe, Thursday, May 3, 2012, 3:26am; Reply: 4
Quoted from Patty H
In other words, an Explorer can be any ABO type.  Does an O type Explorer have the same diet as an A type, B type and AB type Explorer in general?  Particularly on the big things like wheat, dairy, corn, sugar and coffee.

My daughter is a SWAMI Explorer.  
Obviously, she has type A meat non-choices.  
She has a gluten intolerance, so wheat, oat, barley are all out.  Corn is a total avoid as well.  
She only has 4 superfood dairy choices and 7 neutral choices - of course one of those is Indian buffalo milk...  
She has never liked coffee and sugar is way over-rated for her...

Hope this helps your analysis...
Posted by: C_Sharp, Thursday, May 3, 2012, 3:38am; Reply: 5
Quoted from Patty H
In other words, an Explorer can be any ABO type.  Does an O type Explorer have the same diet as an A type, B type and AB type Explorer in general?  Particularly on the big things like wheat, dairy, corn, sugar and coffee.


If following the GenoType book there is no difference in the explorer diet plan by ABO type.

If you are an explorer, you are an explorer and blood type makes no difference to the diet.




If following SWAMI your epigenetic superfamily is only one of many factors considered in determining a diet plan. ABO blood type is one of the other factors considered in developing a plan for a particular individual.  
Posted by: C_Sharp, Thursday, May 3, 2012, 3:39am; Reply: 6
Quoted from Johnny B.
There are many similarities with a few adjustments.  Just look at the example:
http://www.dadamo.com/SWAMI%20GenoType%20__%20Jane%20Public.pdf
Type A's would have peanuts on the superfood list...


Some A's would have peanuts on the superfood list.
Posted by: Amazone I., Thursday, May 3, 2012, 6:03am; Reply: 7
my swaqmi recommendations are nealy the same then lr4yt ;) ;D...and I'm nothing but pleased about it... ;D(dance)(ok)(clap)(smarty)

I remember when I was the very first A2B nonnie here ;)  ;D ;D :B(funny)(evil)(funny)(clown)(hehe)(hehe)
Posted by: Patty H, Thursday, May 3, 2012, 2:02pm; Reply: 8
Quoted from C_Sharp


Some A's would have peanuts on the superfood list.


It is a bit confusing, since some of the foods would seem to be avoids in the BTD for an A, such as beef and lamb for instance.

I re-read both my SWAMI from Dr. Nash and the new SWAMI I ran as an Explorer.  They are strikingly similar, with a few things that changed like chicken and chicken eggs going from a Hunter superfood to an Explorer neutral food.  One of the things I never noticed before on my SWAMI is that it states that the diet is a synthesis of both GTD and BTD food values.
Posted by: Amazone I., Thursday, May 3, 2012, 2:12pm; Reply: 9
chicken as an O'explorer neutral food but an avoid for this A2B nonnie  explorer;) ;D....
Posted by: Patty H, Thursday, May 3, 2012, 3:45pm; Reply: 10
Quoted from Amazone I.
chicken as an O'explorer neutral food but an avoid for this A2B nonnie  explorer;) ;D....


So it appears that the Explorer diet is different when it comes to different blood types, thus the synthesis of GTD and BTD.
Posted by: Amazone I., Thursday, May 3, 2012, 4:22pm; Reply: 11
;) ;D yup so it is....(clap)(ok)(dance)(smarty)
Posted by: ABJoe, Thursday, May 3, 2012, 4:33pm; Reply: 12
Quoted from Patty H
So it appears that the Explorer diet is different when it comes to different blood types, thus the synthesis of GTD and BTD.

The book Explorer Diet is constant.  It is only the SWAMI diet, that blends Explorer genotype family base with BTD that creates the specificity.

Of course, SWAMI does this for everyone - it seems to make the most difference for Explorer genotypes as the book diet makes significant restrictions on all due to all blood types being included.
Posted by: Amazone I., Friday, May 4, 2012, 5:57am; Reply: 13
btw I think all swami recommendations for all types are different...no-one is the same nor lives the same life nor has same epigenetic specifications...so far it's normal that every recommendation will be different ;) ;D... not only for us the explorers...(smarty)(hehe)
Posted by: ruthiegirl, Friday, May 4, 2012, 6:12pm; Reply: 14
Quoted from Johnny B.
There are many similarities with a few adjustments.  Just look at the example:
http://www.dadamo.com/SWAMI%20GenoType%20__%20Jane%20Public.pdf
Type A's would have peanuts on the superfood list...


That sample SWAMI isn't meant to be used for anybody's food values. They clicked on boxes at random to generate the sample report. The only point of the sample SWAMI is to show people what the SWAMI diet report looks like, and to get an idea of what foods are tested for SWAMI. Nobody is meant to actually use that publically available printout. If there's ever a woman actually named Jane Q Public, she'd need her own individualized SWAMI, and it would likely vary widely from the sample report.

To answer the original question:

If you're following the diet right from the Genotype Diet book, then all Explorers have the exact same food list, regardless of blood type.

However, when you run a SWAMI, you bet a blend of  GTD and BTD food values. The SWAMI of an A Explorer would likely vary widely from the SWAMI of an O Explorer.

Since the SWAMI food list is likely to vary widely from the Explorer "book diet", Explorers are likely to benefit greatly from SWAMI rather than using the diet straight from the book.
Posted by: paul clucas, Friday, May 4, 2012, 10:50pm; Reply: 15
My Swami is quite different from my wife's Swami - especially noticeable in terms of meat, but the differences run throught all food categories.

Paul                                                 Char
O Rh -ve Non-sectreting Explorer      A Rh +ve Secreting Explorer

She has a higher Explorer percentage, so she is less individualist in her Explorerness.
Posted by: Patty H, Sunday, May 6, 2012, 11:27am; Reply: 16
Quoted from paul clucas
My Swami is quite different from my wife's Swami - especially noticeable in terms of meat, but the differences run throught all food categories.

Paul                                                 Char
O Rh -ve Non-sectreting Explorer      A Rh +ve Secreting Explorer

She has a higher Explorer percentage, so she is less individualist in her Explorerness.


This is confusing to me - why bother with the Explorer genotype at all, then.  It seems like Explorers should be broken up into different genotypes, no?
Posted by: Amazone I., Sunday, May 6, 2012, 12:59pm; Reply: 17
perhaps am I in need of further lookings in that *gentotype booklet* ??) ;)....(think)(think)(goofy)......

I don't know but I always got upset while lurking into this book ;) but was very amazed while getting my swami recommendations.... :X :B(funny)(shrug) but this perhaps while having been voyaging from teacher to warrior to nomad et enfin last but not least got the right reply to come along with explorer diet ;) ;D...aaaahhh yesss .....
Posted by: RedLilac, Sunday, May 6, 2012, 2:08pm; Reply: 18
Swami is important for an Explorer since we’re the leftovers.  I did well on the BTD.  I didn’t do well on the Explorer diet.  I do great on my Swami.
Posted by: Lloyd, Sunday, May 6, 2012, 2:12pm; Reply: 19
Quoted from Patty H


This is confusing to me - why bother with the Explorer genotype at all, then.  It seems like Explorers should be broken up into different genotypes, no?


As they say, that would be another whole series of books for an increasingly smaller audience.  ;)

SWAMI is the better compromise in my view.
Posted by: Easy E, Sunday, May 6, 2012, 9:22pm; Reply: 20
I am not an expert, but the book guidelines for explorer work great for me.

Explorers should eat red meats that are lean in lesser amounts than a hunter or gatherer (like 3 times a week).  Fatty meats should be avoided.

Little to no dairy (even cultured yogurts).  

Plenty of plant based foods, recommended grains, recommended poultry, seafood, and avoid the common toxins like caffeine and alcohol or not use them on a regular basis.

Exercise should be intense enough to sweat and leave you feeling like you did something and should be about 4 to 5 times a week.

To me, the BTD and GTD are two different methods.  A explorers usually do not do well with a BTD A diet, for example.
Posted by: Seraffa, Sunday, May 6, 2012, 10:39pm; Reply: 21
Quoted from Johnny B.
There are many similarities with a few adjustments.  Just look at the example:
http://www.dadamo.com/SWAMI%20GenoType%20__%20Jane%20Public.pdf
Type A's would have peanuts on the superfood list...


That's an O superfoods list, Johnny. The peanuts may not necessarily be a superfood for the A Explorer because of 2 reasons: its the bitter skins on the peanut that the A needs to prevent cancer,not the nut itself and - an A Explorer will not be able to digest very many peanuts well - especially in the evening or at night, when their stomach acid is at a low level. The Genotype diet also explains for Explorers to consider peanuts a "black dot" item to be eliminated completely for the first 6 months.
Posted by: Seraffa, Sunday, May 6, 2012, 10:44pm; Reply: 22
Quoted from Patty H
In other words, an Explorer can be any ABO type.  Does an O type Explorer have the same diet as an A type, B type and AB type Explorer in general?  Particularly on the big things like wheat, dairy, corn, sugar and coffee.


Consult your secretor status; you will be in general a lot more sensitive as a Nonnie. As an A Nonnie Explorer I can't do corn, can do limited amounts of sugar, only do limited amounts of decaf coffee, very limited dairy (I'm not a B), and use spelt wheat instead of commercial bread wheat because bread wheat's chromosomes make me sick.
Posted by: Seraffa, Sunday, May 6, 2012, 10:48pm; Reply: 23
Quoted from C_Sharp


If following the GenoType book there is no difference in the explorer diet plan by ABO type.

If you are an explorer, you are an explorer and blood type makes no difference to the diet.




If following SWAMI your epigenetic superfamily is only one of many factors considered in determining a diet plan. ABO blood type is one of the other factors considered in developing a plan for a particular individual.  


And its a very important step in customizing; I had to work my way back from the Genotype diet to the BTD for A's to discover that I had to eliminate Beef under red meats. As soon as I did I was no longer an active bulimic, and no longer vomiting! That is why I encourage peeps to start out with BTD to get their footing correctly, then progress to Genotype.
Posted by: Seraffa, Sunday, May 6, 2012, 10:53pm; Reply: 24
Quoted from RedLilac
Swami is important for an Explorer since we’re the leftovers.  I did well on the BTD.  I didn’t do well on the Explorer diet.  I do great on my Swami.


I'm not a leftover! We're "Progressionists" - first and foremost, with exraordinary healing capacities.  8)
Posted by: DoS, Sunday, May 6, 2012, 10:56pm; Reply: 25
Quoted from Easy E


Exercise should be intense enough to sweat and leave you feeling like you did something and should be about 4 to 5 times a week.



I don't understand how people consistently overlook exercise recommendations. It seems a lot of A explorers think less exercise when that is the opposite of recommended. That and Gatherers pretending to not understand what intense exercise happens to be.

Explorers that are BTA may be able to eat a lot of things on the A list, but the diamonds and beneficials are not the same, nor are the amounts.
Posted by: Seraffa, Sunday, May 6, 2012, 10:56pm; Reply: 26
Quoted from Easy E
I am not an expert, but the book guidelines for explorer work great for me.

Explorers should eat red meats that are lean in lesser amounts than a hunter or gatherer (like 3 times a week).  Fatty meats should be avoided.

Little to no dairy (even cultured yogurts).  

Plenty of plant based foods, recommended grains, recommended poultry, seafood, and avoid the common toxins like caffeine and alcohol or not use them on a regular basis.

Exercise should be intense enough to sweat and leave you feeling like you did something and should be about 4 to 5 times a week.

To me, the BTD and GTD are two different methods.  A explorers usually do not do well with a BTD A diet, for example.


They DON'T???!! It lowered my blood pressure after 40 days. Shoot, I know at least half of it works for me. It's the weight loss part that didn't work so well with the A diet. That's why I'm taking the offer to SWAMI from a friend on here. ;D
Posted by: Seraffa, Sunday, May 6, 2012, 10:59pm; Reply: 27
Wow....all this talk has made me hungry for goat bellies....I have to go.... :K)
Posted by: Easy E, Monday, May 7, 2012, 1:59am; Reply: 28
Quoted from Seraffa


They DON'T???!! It lowered my blood pressure after 40 days. Shoot, I know at least half of it works for me. It's the weight loss part that didn't work so well with the A diet. That's why I'm taking the offer to SWAMI from a friend on here. ;D


That is awesome!!

I think the explorer diet is helpful for helping liver functioning.  For me at least, this is my weak area.  When the liver is slowed and overtaxed, it can spill over and manifest in different ways.  Like for me, i think my liver was strained from drinking beer, going out, smoking cigarettes, having taken various medications, and eating badly over the years.   So different foods from the BTD may be tough for an explorer liver.
Posted by: paul clucas, Monday, May 7, 2012, 8:21pm; Reply: 29
Quoted from Patty H


This is confusing to me - why bother with the Explorer genotype at all, then.  It seems like Explorers should be broken up into different genotypes, no?
The compromise Explorer diet is much better for Explorer epigenetic superfamily-dominant people than any other one diet that could be done.

The publishing result was better for this choice, but it does require a constant effort on the part of people who know enough.  We must advocate Explorers to get Swami Xpress, or some other, more individualized solution.  For some Explorers a practitioner will produce much better results than Swami Xpress simply because of the extra attention to the personal circumstances.

No wonder Dr. D'  Adamo wanted an Explorer-escape door for his office!   :)
Posted by: Amazone I., Tuesday, May 8, 2012, 8:17am; Reply: 30
Paul was he afraid for himself or was the door for the upcomeing explorers  made ??) ;) ;D.... :X(evil)(hehe)(funny)(cool)(smarty)
Posted by: Easy E, Tuesday, May 8, 2012, 1:28pm; Reply: 31
I have to disagree with what i said earlier about yogurts that are probiotic.  I've eaten some the past few days and it seems to be beneficial for me.  

Yogurt is a black dot in the book, but it may be good for me since i am A.  It was cooling to my stomach and seemed to satisfy my hunger for awhile.
Posted by: Spring, Tuesday, May 8, 2012, 2:52pm; Reply: 32
Quoted from Patty H


It is a bit confusing, since some of the foods would seem to be avoids in the BTD for an A, such as beef and lamb for instance.


No beef on my SWAMI, but I can have lamb. I only eat it a few times a month, though.
Posted by: Spring, Tuesday, May 8, 2012, 2:55pm; Reply: 33
Quoted from Easy E
Yogurt is a black dot in the book, but it may be good for me since i am A.  It was cooling to my stomach and seemed to satisfy my hunger for awhile.


It is a plain avoid for me, and I'm not surprised. I am lactose intolerant.
Posted by: Spring, Tuesday, May 8, 2012, 3:05pm; Reply: 34
Quoted from paul clucas
No wonder Dr. D'  Adamo wanted an Explorer-escape door for his office!   :)


Hilarious!! What a hoot!! Sometimes some Explorers wish they had an "escape door," too!! At first, it is almost like hanging on a ragged cliff with only one good option!! You either have to figure out some things for yourself or it ain't gonna work!! Thankfully, I was able to do that fairly quickly. But I must say this: Trehalose has made for a lot smoother climb!
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