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Posted by: tolondontoparis, Monday, April 30, 2012, 9:20pm
have any of you had annoying acne and goosebump skin!? I am beginning to think that I am a non-secretor more and more, because I'm pretty sure soy breaks me out and i'm an O, and I just have such bad skin, although I don't get sick a whole lot.
Posted by: Lola, Monday, April 30, 2012, 9:40pm; Reply: 1
a secretor test will help narrow down your avoids

a swami will be more targeted to your needs once you have your secretor results
Posted by: tolondontoparis, Monday, April 30, 2012, 9:53pm; Reply: 2
have any of you had annoying acne and goosebump skin!? I am beginning to think that I am a non-secretor more and more, because I'm pretty sure soy breaks me out and i'm an O, and I just have such bad skin, although I don't get sick a whole lot.

I am thinking that non-secretors are more prone to skin issues, is that just stereotyping?

Things that I think are neutral actually break me out. I wish there was a chart for non secretors at my fingertips. I am going to get the wallet, card and try the non-secretor ways with the database for now.
Posted by: Lola, Monday, April 30, 2012, 9:59pm; Reply: 3
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wish there was a chart for non secretors at my fingertips.


swami is just that and personalized to boot

More information on SWAMI diets can be found at:
http://www.4yourtype.com/swamixp_video.asp
http://www.dadamo.com/media/swami.htm
http://www.dadamo.com/clinic/swamigenotype.htm
http://www.dadamo.com/media/gtd.htm
find out how food rates for you individually, given your personal variables.
Posted by: gardengirl, Monday, April 30, 2012, 10:10pm; Reply: 4
I no longer have "goosebump" skin. I used to have it on the back of my arms and upper thighs. I will still get breakouts around my mouth which isn't acne but more like blistering if I stray too much. It turns bright red when I eat the wrong foods - (sugar, dairy and potatoes cause the quickest reactions for me) then they dry out and leave me with raw peeling skin. I also have psoriasis but it's really not much of an issue for me anymore.
Posted by: Spring, Monday, April 30, 2012, 10:26pm; Reply: 5
Quoted from gardengirl
I no longer have "goosebump" skin. I used to have it on the back of my arms and upper thighs. I will still get breakouts around my mouth which isn't acne but more like blistering if I stray too much. It turns bright red when I eat the wrong foods - (sugar, dairy and potatoes cause the quickest reactions for me) then they dry out and leave me with raw peeling skin. I also have psoriasis but it's really not much of an issue for me anymore.


I remember reacting so badly to white potatoes that my hands would burn and break out as soon as I started pealing them. Instead of realizing that this was something I definitely needed to avoid, I simply started baking them after a good scrubbing!! Of course, I was only around twenty years old when that was going on!
Posted by: tolondontoparis, Monday, April 30, 2012, 10:57pm; Reply: 6
Quoted from gardengirl
I no longer have "goosebump" skin. I used to have it on the back of my arms and upper thighs. I will still get breakouts around my mouth which isn't acne but more like blistering if I stray too much. It turns bright red when I eat the wrong foods - (sugar, dairy and potatoes cause the quickest reactions for me) then they dry out and leave me with raw peeling skin. I also have psoriasis but it's really not much of an issue for me anymore.


I have them on my arse, legs, calves, and backs of my arms! Miserable! Ruins my love life! And my acne is miserable aswell. Us nonnies just have to be tip top to be super lovely
Posted by: tolondontoparis, Monday, April 30, 2012, 10:58pm; Reply: 7

Quoted from Spring


I remember reacting so badly to white potatoes that my hands would burn and break out as soon as I started pealing them. Instead of realizing that this was something I definitely needed to avoid, I simply started baking them after a good scrubbing!! Of course, I was only around twenty years old when that was going on!


ahhh! Blast those darn spuds! I dunno how the irish survived off of them!
Posted by: Lola, Monday, April 30, 2012, 11:22pm; Reply: 8
try dry brushing from time to time,
and give your targeted BT/GT plan time to do its resetting
Posted by: Possum, Monday, April 30, 2012, 11:23pm; Reply: 9
Hi there!! Yep I get very quick reactions to things I eat/drink, put on my skin or even breathe in & they don't necessarily have to be avoids ::) Looking back on previous posts, when I am detoxing, things are much better... (which of course would make total sense ::) )I haven't done a BTD detox as such, but have taken liver support herbs etc... I recently started using betonite clay (more as a paste to dab on, than internally) & digestive enzymes & it all seems to be helping ;)

Been eating out a bit lately as my sister & her husband arrived in town Sunday afternoon & funnily enough, yesterday I ate a few small chips off a shared lunch plate & even had equivalent of a whole medium sized baked potato last night, with absolutely no problems...??!! Also had coleslaw as it was a very limited salad bar where we ate dinner...
Does anyone ever get potatoes (or cabbage) back as an O?
Posted by: gardengirl, Monday, April 30, 2012, 11:39pm; Reply: 10
My skin issues really cleared up when I started fish oils. Forgot to post that. Totally cleared up my psoriasis. Eat a lot of greens, that also helps me a lot. I made kale chips to munch on today.
I see a lot on betonite clay - I will have to look that up. I also started bitters drops recently, and yep, they are just that!
Posted by: tolondontoparis, Tuesday, May 1, 2012, 1:30am; Reply: 11
Quoted from gardengirl
My skin issues really cleared up when I started fish oils. Forgot to post that. Totally cleared up my psoriasis. Eat a lot of greens, that also helps me a lot. I made kale chips to munch on today.
I see a lot on betonite clay - I will have to look that up. I also started bitters drops recently, and yep, they are just that!



Yeah! I thought fish oils were really benefical, but on the nonnie list they are an avoid

http://helpware.net/other/health/NonSecretor.htm
Posted by: ABJoe, Tuesday, May 1, 2012, 1:35am; Reply: 12
Quoted from tolondontoparis


You realize that the information on this site is 6 years old...  I don't know how many changes took place during that time, but it is better to get current information from the source.
http://www.dadamo.com/typebase4/typeindexer.htm
Posted by: Possum, Tuesday, May 1, 2012, 1:39am; Reply: 13
Quoted from tolondontoparis
Yeah! I thought fish oils were really benefical, but on the nonnie list they are an avoid
http://helpware.net/other/health/NonSecretor.htm
What is that link please? Says it was "Scrapped from: http://www.dadamo.com/typebase4/typeindexer.htm Date scrapped: 24/04/2006"
I discovered fish oils were great for inflammation I had in my hip a couple of years ago, but I went on to take too many... so am not overly keen to rely on them again, particularly as the ones I have also contain lemon oil, which I seem react to :-/

Posted by: tolondontoparis, Tuesday, May 1, 2012, 1:47am; Reply: 14
Quoted from ABJoe


You realize that the information on this site is 6 years old...  I don't know how many changes took place during that time, but it is better to get current information from the source.
http://www.dadamo.com/typebase4/typeindexer.htm


It seems pretty up to date still though! it links right to the type 4
Posted by: Victoria, Tuesday, May 1, 2012, 2:20am; Reply: 15
"way back when" I was not following this way of eating, I had those goosebumps under the skin of the backs of my upper arms.  The BTD completely cleared up the situation and very fast, too.  If you are a non-secretor, you may find that you cannot eat avoids at all without paying some kind of price.  That has been true for me.  

I rarely eat Neutrals either.  My diet is probably 85% Superfoods and Diamonds and 15% Neutrals.  I don't consider Toxins (avoids) as food and just don't go there.
Posted by: Mrs T O+, Saturday, May 5, 2012, 9:47pm; Reply: 16
I think I have shared this before somewhere, but I had those bumps on the back of my upper arms from my teens to my 20s. I found that more vitamin A & sunlight got rid of them.

I love potatoes, but avoid them. But in Oct. & Feb. when we were traveling, I had large portions of McDonald's fries with not outward adverse reaction. But I bet if I started having them every week or month, it would be bad.  I still stay away from them as a general rule.
Posted by: tolondontoparis, Monday, May 7, 2012, 10:51pm; Reply: 17
Quoted from Mrs T O+
I think I have shared this before somewhere, but I had those bumps on the back of my upper arms from my teens to my 20s. I found that more vitamin A & sunlight got rid of them.

I love potatoes, but avoid them. But in Oct. & Feb. when we were traveling, I had large portions of McDonald's fries with not outward adverse reaction. But I bet if I started having them every week or month, it would be bad.  I still stay away from them as a general rule.


Wow! I think that will help! being type o's gluten and corn would have made us defficient, especially during puberty and we may have never recovered! I am going to up my carrot juice intake ten fold!
Posted by: NoMorePartyInMyMouth, Monday, June 4, 2012, 12:48pm; Reply: 18
I had a friend break out in a rash on her wrist after eating flax seeds.  I inquired at my naturopath appt about this.  She said some people when taking flax seeds, evening primrose or borage oils that it follows the inflammatory pathway and will cause skin reactions.  Like a rash or acne on the face and back.
Posted by: Lola, Monday, June 4, 2012, 2:16pm; Reply: 19
more reason to get a swami and find out how food rates for one individually


By the way, BT/GT guidelines, now my swami pro report are
'a party in my mouth'!!!!

contrary to the SAD diet I was on 15 years ago and feeling miserable

hope this lifestyle change also becomes 'a party in your mouth' as well!!! haha

'nothing tastes better than health does', remember  ;)
Posted by: Easy E, Tuesday, June 5, 2012, 1:08am; Reply: 20
Histamines are related to allergies and skin reactions.  I think nonnies prob have more issue with excess histamine release than secs.  A lot of foods stimulate histamine release and can cause issues inside and out.  I could be dead wrong about the nonnies and histamine thing though.
Posted by: Possum, Tuesday, June 5, 2012, 1:24am; Reply: 21
I think that makes sense Easy E... ;)
Posted by: Johnny B., Tuesday, June 5, 2012, 2:04am; Reply: 22
I have a mild allergy to soy and I've read (and noticed) that even the slightest allergies can cause acne, cancre sores, and other ignored symptoms.  Get a skin allergy test?
Posted by: Easy E, Tuesday, June 5, 2012, 1:31pm; Reply: 23
I went walking through thick woods middle of last week.  Drank a lot of bourbon and sprite on saturday for a wedding.  Sunday had poison ivy flare up!!! (not a bad one but still ain't fun :P)

Guess the bourbon didn't work for poison ivy  ::) Maybe red wine would have been better for it!!!
Posted by: ruthiegirl, Tuesday, June 5, 2012, 6:48pm; Reply: 24
The sprite might have done more damage than the bourbon- all that sugar and/or corn syrup isn't good for anybody. You may have corn syrup as a neutral, since you're an A,  but it's still a concentrated source of sugars and too many sugars weakens the immune system.
Posted by: Easy E, Tuesday, June 5, 2012, 9:34pm; Reply: 25
Quoted from ruthiegirl
The sprite might have done more damage than the bourbon- all that sugar and/or corn syrup isn't good for anybody. You may have corn syrup as a neutral, since you're an A,  but it's still a concentrated source of sugars and too many sugars weakens the immune system.


It was a lot of sugar, thats a very good point.  
Posted by: proto, Saturday, June 9, 2012, 8:59am; Reply: 26
Quoted from tolondontoparis


It seems pretty up to date still though! it links right to the type 4

Cod liver oil, which is marked as to be avoided, is not the same as fish oil. And then there is pharma grade oil which is distilled super clean and really only has those beneficial fatty acids left.

Posted by: runningyogagal, Saturday, June 9, 2012, 1:45pm; Reply: 27
I have "goose bump" skin too! The technical name for it is Keratosis Pilaris, or KP. It is hardened keratin (like in fingernails) than we can't metabolize as the skin renews itself. So your hair follicles get all clogged. Manual exfoliation and moisturizers with alpha hydroxy acids like glycolic acid.

(Alba has a good moisturizer you could get at any health food store but the glycolic acid in it is not very strong. I would recommend manual exfoliation, like dry brushing, with the Alba moisturier.)

More info on kp:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keratosis_pilaris

If you are sirous about maintaining it, then microdermabrasion from a professional is worth it. That's what I do with mine when I have free time at work (I'm and Esthetician).

Here's some info on microderm: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microdermabrasion#Microdermabrasion

I had heard too that it is a vitamin A deficiency. I took some vit A supplements for awhile but never had any change. I was more toxic then and  it’s possible that by gut lining wasn’t allowing the vitamin in. I’m curious to see how it would work now. I really hope mine goes away soon! It’s embarrassing when clients ask about it if I forget to put makeup on it.

I also was pretty toxic as a teen after about 18 and my skin was horrible!!! Cystic acne and breakout all on my face galore! My skin is so clear now! Thanks to swami and lots of greens! My triggers are  sugar, wheat and certain kinds of dairy.

I tell my clients about healing the body holistically first and eating for your blood type FIRST and then you will have great skin by default..then skincare and regular treatment.

I send people to the website constantly and lots of them ER4TheirT now...

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Us nonnies just have to be tip top to be super lovely
I laughed when I seen this, tolondontoparis..so true!
Posted by: tolondontoparis, Saturday, June 9, 2012, 3:46pm; Reply: 28
Quoted from runningyogagal
I have "goose bump" skin too! The technical name for it is Keratosis Pilaris, or KP. It is hardened keratin (like in fingernails) than we can't metabolize as the skin renews itself. So your hair follicles get all clogged. Manual exfoliation and moisturizers with alpha hydroxy acids like glycolic acid.

(Alba has a good moisturizer you could get at any health food store but the glycolic acid in it is not very strong. I would recommend manual exfoliation, like dry brushing, with the Alba moisturier.)

More info on kp:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keratosis_pilaris

If you are sirous about maintaining it, then microdermabrasion from a professional is worth it. That's what I do with mine when I have free time at work (I'm and Esthetician).

Here's some info on microderm: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microdermabrasion#Microdermabrasion

I had heard too that it is a vitamin A deficiency. I took some vit A supplements for awhile but never had any change. I was more toxic then and  it’s possible that by gut lining wasn’t allowing the vitamin in. I’m curious to see how it would work now. I really hope mine goes away soon! It’s embarrassing when clients ask about it if I forget to put makeup on it.

I also was pretty toxic as a teen after about 18 and my skin was horrible!!! Cystic acne and breakout all on my face galore! My skin is so clear now! Thanks to swami and lots of greens! My triggers are  sugar, wheat and certain kinds of dairy.

I tell my clients about healing the body holistically first and eating for your blood type FIRST and then you will have great skin by default..then skincare and regular treatment.

I send people to the website constantly and lots of them ER4TheirT now...

I laughed when I seen this, tolondontoparis..so true!


Lolz! I just want clear healthy skin, so that I won't be affraid to have my boyfriend touch me! I hate this! I think I need to up my green intake!
Posted by: Possum, Sunday, June 10, 2012, 2:17am; Reply: 29
Quoted from tolondontoparis
I just want clear healthy skin, so that I won't be afraid to have my boyfriend touch me! I hate this!
Just had a  thought - does your boyfriend wear cologne/aftershave? I react to those sort of things & after even a brief half hour visit from a friend (especially if we have hugged & kissed as a greeting - which is pretty usual, as I only see him every few weeks) I will usually break out, especially if I have a patch/spot that is almost healed (& worse so, if it is not yet healed) In that situation I do find drinking bicarb in water & taking a hista calm afterward helps... I'd take it before, if he'd only tell me when he was dropping by ::)
Not sure if the rising cortisol factor with us nonnies comes into it?! For me anxiety/excitement do seem to affect things more, so might well be a factor, as with you, emotions/excitement would be involved even more!! :-/ ;)

Posted by: tolondontoparis, Sunday, June 10, 2012, 3:33pm; Reply: 30
Quoted from Possum
Just had a  thought - does your boyfriend wear cologne/aftershave? I react to those sort of things & after even a brief half hour visit from a friend (especially if we have hugged & kissed as a greeting - which is pretty usual, as I only see him every few weeks) I will usually break out, especially if I have a patch/spot that is almost healed (& worse so, if it is not yet healed) In that situation I do find drinking bicarb in water & taking a hista calm afterward helps... I'd take it before, if he'd only tell me when he was dropping by ::)
Not sure if the rising cortisol factor with us nonnies comes into it?! For me anxiety/excitement do seem to affect things more, so might well be a factor, as with you, emotions/excitement would be involved even more!! :-/ ;)



that's not fair to us as human beings, to have bad skin when excited! I think there is something that us nonnies are missing. Any emotion comes with hormones that if the body is any bit if balance will show. Hormones are deactivated by the liver and filtered out in other organs plus lymph, we are so bogged down and broken!
Posted by: Possum, Sunday, June 10, 2012, 11:37pm; Reply: 31
Often we are missing molydenum & as I said if I take the hista calm, things are way better...

Don't get too down... it is what it is (sometimes) unfortunately... But we are often much more in tune in other (exciting?) ways...;)

Did you check re the aftershave/colgne?
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