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Posted by: Seraffa, Friday, April 27, 2012, 7:05am
Well - they just DON'T. I'm going to explain.....
If you look at the x's per week of foods for Caucasians.....
You see the maximum for meat, fish, eggs, beans, grains, fruits, blah blah

Now look: If you're low carbing it turns out to be just 1 cup of starchy carbs per day. Check it out. You gotta give yourself half a cup of beans and half a slice of compliant bread or grains a day and that's really it for the whole week.

Now look at the meats and fish. Ok only three to five days allotted for each. That gets you through maybe breakfast and lunch ALMOST till Sunday. But - you run out of protein, period, if you don't go ahead and use the five eggs you are alloted over in the dairy section.

NOW - look at what it says about snacks and supper, particularly for Type A:
snacks: you should be having six meals a day anyway in small portions.
dinner: you should have eaten your protein at breakfast and a little for lunch and non of it for supper.

------>>>> there's no carbs left to use for snacks or supper!!! <<<< --------

------>>>> simpler for the Dr. to say: "eat nothing but veggies for supper"!!! <

So why didn't he just SAY it? There's no way that "individuality is key" when you've run out of FOOD at the end of the day except for veggies. And you can't eat stuff at the end of the day if you're still hungry if you're an "A" because it "puts weight on you." There's no room for adjustment - unless, according to the frequency of the foods he lists, you want to throw your system out of balance, overeat, overcalorie yourself,  blah blah.

Who is going to sit there and cut up their meat or slices of bread into cracker-size portions and call it a "meal"???Someone who has anorexia nervosa, perhaps?
Toddlers can't - but its the right size meal for THEM.

Here's the bottom line:
1.) People want to lose weight; they do this by using these guidelines and combining them with exercise. Especially if the have a hormonal imbalance or diabetes or servere obesity to begin with. The weight is not going to come off them automatically -- that is a given. The portions should be on a different kind of chart that shows you, basically, "hey buddy you better get to liking your veggies cos if you want to lose fat you're going to have to stuff your belly with them." Make it bar graphs, for comparisons' sake.

(NO - I will not buy a SWAMI...its too expensive for me, and there is no need if the original books are illustrated properly. Thanks, though.)

2.) The sample meals were nice, but they would be infinitely better if they were simply put in the format of a weeks worth of meals instead of individual recipies. Like other books with eating guidelines? Know what I mean, jellybean?

3) The total picture makes me doubt that the Dr. ever had to use them to lose weight himself; its like he's writing a medical prescription but in a very nebulous format that LOOKS like there is a margin for comfort or error - but, in reality, there really isn't that margin.

This is exactly why his writings are not motivating me very much, except to "eat the right foods for my bloodtype and Genotype." it doesn't take that much to release a newly revised edition of a book. Especially when you have trusted friends and a PR team to help you do it - like the Dr. does.  I shouldn't have to buy a new chef's book on A recipies just to get a gist of food allotments and meals for the week.

And lastly, this is why I am not reading his blogs.
Its nothing personal -- I assure you. But why would I want to read someones new research blogs when I feel that something very basic is still missing about "helping me" concerning weight, that is easily revised and made wonderful?

Its all about PROFESSIONALISM.....and making things EASY and SIMPLE for folks when economic times are BAD.

~ There~  :)






Posted by: Seraffa, Friday, April 27, 2012, 7:11am; Reply: 1
8) :)  8) Nothing I just said will be censored, right?

I didn't hurt anyone by stating stuff the way it stands......right?  :)
Posted by: Seraffa, Friday, April 27, 2012, 7:30am; Reply: 2
PS: It looks as if --- if you DO have to be a strict vegetarian, at times -- you can't effectively lose weight using vege protien because you would have to increase your servings of beans like tofu, etc. Throwing your system off balance? Too many calories?
Too many carbs?

Opinions?  :)
Posted by: Cristina, Friday, April 27, 2012, 9:45am; Reply: 3
It is not about calories or carbs in this forum, got a bit mixed up in there? ... Reading his blogs would clarify that more ...

Everything is presented as a guide, portions are suggestions, individuality is written all over his books and lectures, and blogs, and yes, all over this forum ...

Obesity is the result of something not working right inside us ... not about the calories, but about what it is making us inside wanting to put those calories in our mouth ... that is what the Doctor is aiming at fixing, without giving a One Size Fits All!

it  makes sense ... to me at least ... again individuality and to each their own ... but hope you  stick it here and give your type a chance ... it was never meant to be a quick fix, although it does turn that way to many people ...  


Posted by: DenverFoodie, Friday, April 27, 2012, 9:59am; Reply: 4
I'd like you to consider this as an "eating plan" and not what most think of when they hear the word "diet".  To me "diet" doesn't mean "weight control" but an "educated way of eating".  I don't think your opinions will be censored on this forum.  Your opinion will always be respected here.  For what it's worth the plan has helped me in many ways and I hope it will work for you.
Posted by: Goldie, Friday, April 27, 2012, 12:29pm; Reply: 5
If you really wish to read the books that are of current interest to Dr D today, you have to have strong arms.. the book is 800 pages, full of new info going way beyond a cookbook solution.  This Doctor talks about health, not wishful thinking.  It's about learning what lay people can do for their own mind and physical individuality and their ability to understand.  There are two week exact cooking and serving pages in some of the books and there is a new 10.- cook book to be had on line.. But one has to make the move to get it and try it to see how it fits ones own likes and dislikes.

SWAMI would not serve you.. it is no different than any of the books.. no handholding, no convincing of what right or wrong is.. just on line suggestions, always leaving you free will to act as you please.  You might be creating a best seller!

In fact creating a new cookbook might be something you might wish to create by taking pages out of every book and combining them into the cookbook of your own very personal taste.. later you could share your (hard) work with the rest of us..  
Posted by: Spring, Friday, April 27, 2012, 2:20pm; Reply: 6
Quoted from Seraffa
(NO - I will not buy a SWAMI...its too expensive for me, and there is no need if the original books are illustrated properly. Thanks, though.)
:)


I was frustrated, too, on the GENO diet with the servings conundrum and especially since I was having such a hard time with beans. I love beans, but for some reason I felt worse the more I ate them. But SWAMI saved the day for me. If I had known what SWAMI was  going to do for me when I bought it, I wouldn't have waited two years to give it a try.

BTW, I cannot imagine even thinking about the carbs I eat. Or the calories either. If you want more fish or whatever, for goodness sake, eat it!!
Posted by: Lloyd, Friday, April 27, 2012, 2:43pm; Reply: 7
Quoted from Seraffa
If you're low carbing.....



That's the first problem. The A diet is not intended to be low-carb. It is not intended that you should have animal protein at every meal.

If you don't like the diet, by all means do something else. There are lots of diets out there to choose from.

Posted by: ruthiegirl, Friday, April 27, 2012, 2:44pm; Reply: 8
Dr D doesn't reccomend low-carbing for most A's. It works for O's and B's- by following the frequency guidelines, Os and Bs would naturally fall into a moderate-carb diet (none of the diets are as low-carb as the low-carbers reccomend, but even they say to go ultra-low-carb only temporarily and move to moderate carbs for maintenance once goal weight is acheived.)

This isn't to say that you, personally, won't do well low-carbing, even though you're an A. It just means that, for most A's, low-fat, high fiber is a better choice. A's following BTD will be eating lots of beans for protein, which is something that doesn't work for low-carbers (or for O's.) None of Dr D's diets are too low in overall food or too low in protien- those who get less animal protien get more servings of veggie protiens, and vice versa.

You have a few choices here:

1) Go ahead and give the BTD for A's a try, even though it's much higher in carbs than you're used to. See how you do on it- you may be surprised.

2) Try GTD (genotype diet aka Change Your Genetic Destiny.) You may be able to borrow it from your library for free, and only spend money on it if it does work well for you.

3) Use the BTD food lists but play around with the portion sizes to see what works best for you personally. Eat more fish, eggs, and poultry as needed. Remember that nuts, tofu, and peanuts are "veggie protiens" but incredibly low in carbs compared to beans.

4) Invest in a SWAMI. This is by far the "best" option, in terms of its likelihood to work well for you, but also the most expensive. If that's beyond your budget right now, try one or all of the above options first.
Posted by: Seraffa, Friday, April 27, 2012, 2:59pm; Reply: 9
Quoted from DenverFoodie
I'd like you to consider this as an "eating plan" and not what most think of when they hear the word "diet".  To me "diet" doesn't mean "weight control" but an "educated way of eating".  I don't think your opinions will be censored on this forum.  Your opinion will always be respected here.  For what it's worth the plan has helped me in many ways and I hope it will work for you.


This is why I make mention of the old book "Dr. Abravanel's Body Type Diet and Lifetime Easting Plan." Although it no longer serves as a book that can truly heal a person's endocrine system (because we have Blood Type Guides to go by now) - "Dr. Abravanel's" is a really EFFECTIVE presentation of what I am talking about for a "weight-loss patient" in its beautiful format.

I'm walking Monday thru Friday on my new job, am not eating huge amounts, am not eating at night anymore...have to eat vegetarian carbs most of the time due to a really low household budget.....have run out of money for vegetables.

I know it's entirely probable to plateau because of lack of vegetables.

And yes, I could write that weeks worth of meals.

But I don't like to be forced to do extra work that the author(s) should have done in the first place.

Our "age of information" has evolved into an age where EVERYONES time is robbed by "having to do this or that" by yourself just because the other fellow did not think to or would not do what was would have worked in the beginning. Most of it forcing you to go back to your computer to numerous websites, ad nauseum.

I am upset because I don't think the author should have saddled me with this extra burden, and should correct this flaw in the books --- because they are still selling well as Kindle books. If you saddle a person with "too much extra" all in the name of "freedom" and "letting them find out who they are" -- well, you may as well hire and pay them as a fellow researcher, because it's going to take up a significant portion of their week to figure out, "do", and continue "doing" in the different stages of life, and by the time they finish their life's journey -- college degreed or not --- they will have accomplished almost as much work as a PHD anyway.
Posted by: Seraffa, Friday, April 27, 2012, 3:02pm; Reply: 10
Quoted from Lloyd



That's the first problem. The A diet is not intended to be low-carb. It is not intended that you should have animal protein at every meal.

If you don't like the diet, by all means do something else. There are lots of diets out there to choose from.



??) I've spoken many times on this forum before about how the carbs he recommends have healed my illnesses during vegetarian periods of eating. I am addressing the issue of OBESITY because I am 65 pounds overweight, and because the Doctor does not have peers in the Blood Type field who are writing weight loss plans to correct the issue of morbid obesity.
Posted by: Spring, Friday, April 27, 2012, 3:07pm; Reply: 11
Once your body gradually adjusts to your plan, if you are anything like me, you will find that you won't feel the need for or even want the heavier proteins so often. And I was a huge fan of steaks, etc., and tons of protein in earlier years! Peanut butter helped me a lot, but you would have to be careful about eating it with some other nut or other protein because it is not complete and will make you even hungrier! You don't have to get everything exactly right the first month! Or even the first year for some things. Your body needs time to adjust to all the changes. Have you been following the diet since you first joined the forum?
Posted by: Seraffa, Friday, April 27, 2012, 3:18pm; Reply: 12
Quoted from ruthiegirl

This isn't to say that you, personally, won't do well low-carbing, even though you're an A. It just means that, for most A's, low-fat, high fiber is a better choice. A's following BTD will be eating lots of beans for protein, which is something that doesn't work for low-carbers (or for O's.) None of Dr D's diets are too low in overall food or too low in protien- those who get less animal protien get more servings of veggie protiens, and vice versa.


...you see.....with the RECOMMENDED portions of beans in the Kindle books .....if you go over those portions....it makes you feel like you are are setting yourself up for failure when you are constantly having to "test" what works. People who are morbidly obese need clear cut examples to start out with, then switch up a little bit waaaaay later. I feel like this is going to leave me "experimenting" for 6 months to find out "what works" --- and by that time, I might already be starting to develop 1.) breast cancer 2.) diabetes 3.) a mild form of heart disease.

You know what regular family doctors say these days:"do what you want!" "you look healthy to me, you just weigh too much!" "just do whatever works" "ummm hmmmm, well try it and see what happens" ---- so, it's like talking to a pre-recorded voice when you get your annual checkup, and no-one is really concerned with you having gotten yourself together anyway unless you happen to get terminally ill or DIE overnight. Gone are the days of good family doctors who look you straight in the face and say, "listen - do something right away; there's no reason you should be in as bad a shape as you are right now, at your age. I want you to start NOW."

Thank God I had at least one of the old fashioned family physicians growing up!
Posted by: Spring, Friday, April 27, 2012, 3:31pm; Reply: 13
Quoted from Seraffa
??) I've spoken many times on this forum before about how the carbs he recommends have healed my illnesses during vegetarian periods of eating. I am addressing the issue of OBESITY because I am 65 pounds overweight, and because the Doctor does not have peers in the Blood Type field who are writing weight loss plans to correct the issue of morbid obesity.


Some people need a whole lot more help than others with weight loss. I know people who have lost upwards of forty pounds following this way of eating without any input from anyone whatsoever. In fact, I don't know a single person, personally, who has followed it that is overweight, except myself and I am definitely getting where I want to be after being on SWAMI since October!!  But some people need more help. Dr. D's clinic is there for people who can afford it, and they address the very issues that you are writing about.

I eventually worked around the things that you are upset about - watching how I felt after introducing anything new. I had already figured out that chicken was practically killing me long before it was taken off my diet altogether. Turkey was fine, though, and I wasn't surprised to see that it is still on my diet. The same with yogurt. I love Greek yogurt, but it was doing a real number on me! Again, I was not surprised to see that it had been taken away in SWAMI!

Dr. D. is not in your kitchen with a stack of laws pounding you over the head about what you should or should not do or eat!!! Far from it. But it seems that is really what you are looking for in some way or another!  :) A perfect diet, guaranteed to work, with every bite planned and accounted for. Dr. D. is just one man, not an army! What might work perfectly for you and your type might be awful for someone else with the same type!! If you only knew how much sleep he lost putting together the books he has written, I think you would think differently.

Posted by: Seraffa, Friday, April 27, 2012, 3:35pm; Reply: 14
Quoted from Spring
Peanut butter helped me a lot, but you would have to be careful about eating it with some other nut or other protein because it is not complete and will make you even hungrier! You don't have to get everything exactly right the first month! Or even the first year for some things. Your body needs time to adjust to all the changes. Have you been following the diet since you first joined the forum?


Well I finally removed all "avoids" I would say....by November 2011, when I saw my last piece of beef, which was a protein curiously still a cause of active bulimia for me.

It is extremely hard to gauge what to do as an Explorer.
The best explanation I can give is that it feels as if you are somewhere between "O" and "A" in neolithic temperament and body type. It's just very, VERY frustrating. Being an Explorer is being a shade of "gray". You know you have muscles underneath all the fat, and that you can "do" stuff. But then your real blood type kicks in, and sets you all these limitations........ ITS CRAZY!

Posted by: Spring, Friday, April 27, 2012, 3:40pm; Reply: 15
Okay, I will play doctor!! Pull up your boot straps, write down exactly what you feel you need for a day from your compliant foods, and EAT!! If something didn't seem to work, leave that off the next list. Do that again for tomorrow. And the next day. And the next. Come back in a month, and we will talk about this some more!!  ;D  And don't weigh before then - it is forbidden!! You can do this!
Posted by: ABJoe, Friday, April 27, 2012, 5:11pm; Reply: 16
Quoted from Seraffa
It is extremely hard to gauge what to do as an Explorer.

I will say that it was difficult for my DD to get a handle on her headaches and weight until she got SWAMI...  She measured as a Teacher by the book, but falls into Explorer with SWAMI with a very restricted food list.  The positive is that she is getting better by eating what she likes from her beneficial and Neutral lists from SWAMI.

I know you said that you shouldn't need to get SWAMI if the book was written properly, but I disagree.  The Genotype tables would have had to be huge to utilize all of the information put into the software to determine the genotype family.  There is no way, in a book, to include all of the food value calculations based on each individual's measurement input, to get the individualized food charts and portion frequency that SWAMI provides.
Posted by: Spring, Friday, April 27, 2012, 5:14pm; Reply: 17
Amen, Joe!
Posted by: 18545 (Guest), Friday, April 27, 2012, 7:56pm; Reply: 18
Thanks Seraffa for mentioning Dr. D's blogs.  I hadn't noticed the blogs here.  Now I'm reading them.  I noticed in one blog Dr. D brought out how 80%  would benefit from the diets and the 20% who didn't were for an unknown number of reasons(my wording).  I get the impression from reading comments on this forum that those who don't get results they want from the diet in the books do get better results from investigating further with swamii and going to his clinic.  I'm lucky that the information I've received from reading his books and his website have made a big difference in how I feel.  I had already figured out gluten on my own but thought doing away with gluten in my life would be all I needed to get back my health.  It didn't work like that.  I also noticed milk was bad for me but not as bad as gluten.  With the information Dr. D. provided I could understand the milk problem better and a host of other foods that I might have never figured out on my own.  Example: pork....I never even questioned pork as contributing to swollen joints and that tired achy feeling....but the diet brought it out as a bad thing for me and when I removed it I lost the achy stuff.
And naturally I had to test it by eating pork again and sure enough the achy came back.  I know my experience wouldn't make it in JAMA but it works for me.  And there are other foods Dr. D's diet caused  me to question and when removed from my diet have changed how I feel for the better.
You might be one of the 20%, or you might just need more fine tuning.  Or you might just need to eat a little more or less than the X's generically recommend.

Posted by: Seraffa, Saturday, April 28, 2012, 7:53am; Reply: 19
Quoted from Spring
Okay, I will play doctor!! Pull up your boot straps, write down exactly what you feel you need for a day from your compliant foods, and EAT!! If something didn't seem to work, leave that off the next list. Do that again for tomorrow. And the next day. And the next. Come back in a month, and we will talk about this some more!!  ;D  And don't weigh before then - it is forbidden!! You can do this!


lol!
Posted by: Seraffa, Saturday, April 28, 2012, 7:57am; Reply: 20
Quoted from ABJoe

I will say that it was difficult for my DD to get a handle on her headaches and weight until she got SWAMI...  She measured as a Teacher by the book, but falls into Explorer with SWAMI with a very restricted food list.  The positive is that she is getting better by eating what she likes from her beneficial and Neutral lists from SWAMI.

I know you said that you shouldn't need to get SWAMI if the book was written properly, but I disagree.  The Genotype tables would have had to be huge to utilize all of the information put into the software to determine the genotype family.  There is no way, in a book, to include all of the food value calculations based on each individual's measurement input, to get the individualized food charts and portion frequency that SWAMI provides.


I think I just found the succinct reason SWAMI is so valuable for explorers over on another thread tonight, Joe. Thanks. Curiously enough it didn't have to do with portions, either. Well, not just yet, anyway. It had to do with something else. So I'm going to stop my rant. Even tho I have a netbook (not a tower pc) and still can't afford a SWAMI yet.
Posted by: Seraffa, Saturday, April 28, 2012, 8:00am; Reply: 21
Quoted from 18545
Thanks Seraffa for mentioning Dr. D's blogs.  I hadn't noticed the blogs here.  Now I'm reading them.  I noticed in one blog Dr. D brought out how 80%  would benefit from the diets and the 20% who didn't were for an unknown number of reasons(my wording).  I get the impression from reading comments on this forum that those who don't get results they want from the diet in the books do get better results from investigating further with swamii and going to his clinic.  I'm lucky that the information I've received from reading his books and his website have made a big difference in how I feel.  I had already figured out gluten on my own but thought doing away with gluten in my life would be all I needed to get back my health.  It didn't work like that.  I also noticed milk was bad for me but not as bad as gluten.  With the information Dr. D. provided I could understand the milk problem better and a host of other foods that I might have never figured out on my own.  Example: pork....I never even questioned pork as contributing to swollen joints and that tired achy feeling....but the diet brought it out as a bad thing for me and when I removed it I lost the achy stuff.
And naturally I had to test it by eating pork again and sure enough the achy came back.  I know my experience wouldn't make it in JAMA but it works for me.  And there are other foods Dr. D's diet caused  me to question and when removed from my diet have changed how I feel for the better.
You might be one of the 20%, or you might just need more fine tuning.  Or you might just need to eat a little more or less than the X's generically recommend.



That's very nicely put, Kibble.

Posted by: Seraffa, Saturday, April 28, 2012, 8:09am; Reply: 22
Quoted from Spring

If you only knew how much sleep he lost putting together the books he has written, I think you would think differently.


Oh I like my research too - and I can well imagine; esp. if you're going to impact millions of expected lives out there.

I need to ask him if he gained weight at the same time.
Call it devilish, but I'm THAT curious.  ;)



Posted by: Seraffa, Saturday, April 28, 2012, 8:11am; Reply: 23
Thank you, everyone --

I think this thread needs bed rest.  ;)
Posted by: ABJoe, Saturday, April 28, 2012, 3:20pm; Reply: 24
Quoted from Seraffa
Even tho I have a netbook (not a tower pc) and still can't afford a SWAMI yet.

What computer you have doesn't really matter, as long as you can access the Internet, as SWAMI "runs" on Dr. D's computer.  You just need the web browser to interface with it...

I do understand about the price of admission, however, it'll be the best $70 you've spent in a long time...
Posted by: Spring, Saturday, April 28, 2012, 6:07pm; Reply: 25
Quoted from ABJoe

What computer you have doesn't really matter, as long as you can access the Internet, as SWAMI "runs" on Dr. D's computer.  You just need the web browser to interface with it...

I do understand about the price of admission, however, it'll be the best $70 you've spent in a long time...


So true, from this Explorer. It made all the difference.
Posted by: Dr. D, Saturday, April 28, 2012, 9:19pm; Reply: 26
Quoted from Seraffa
8) :)  8) Nothing I just said will be censored, right?

I didn't hurt anyone by stating stuff the way it stands......right?  :)


::)
Posted by: Spring, Saturday, April 28, 2012, 9:45pm; Reply: 27
Now, Dr. D., you know that smiley doesn't remotely look like you!
Posted by: Amazone I., Sunday, April 29, 2012, 7:41am; Reply: 28
it is prooven that epigenetically you won't loose any weight if some of your genes are
"off-line"....you can do all you want...sports until you'll japs off ;)...eating low fat or low carb diets.. you will experience... n o t h i n g ... but literally nothing will work!!! Until you are going to *put on* your genetic make up properly... ;D ;D ;D and I also was a bit  ??) asking myselve  about Swami... until I realized.. yep so it is... and gave a try... and today I don't regret it at all :D...


btw.. I guess Dr. D is an NT as well... so far our tendencies to be clear in our approaches and speech is nothing but normal.... ;) ;D NF's always are sooooo f-sidings ;)... feelings... nothing but feelings ;) ;D... jaaauuulll... ;D ;D

btw... please remember..... we aren't thaaat special .... ;) ;D ;D(evil)(whistle)
Posted by: Seraffa, Monday, April 30, 2012, 3:19am; Reply: 29
Quoted from ABJoe

What computer you have doesn't really matter, as long as you can access the Internet, as SWAMI "runs" on Dr. D's computer.  You just need the web browser to interface with it...

I do understand about the price of admission, however, it'll be the best $70 you've spent in a long time...


Oh - did not know that. But I bet a lot of people prefer the Dr.-adjusted one. Don't they?
Posted by: ABJoe, Monday, April 30, 2012, 3:30am; Reply: 30
Quoted from Seraffa
Oh - did not know that. But I bet a lot of people prefer the Dr.-adjusted one. Don't they?

There are benefits both ways...  
The practitioner is sure that all of the measurements are correct, but you have to go back to the practitioner to have any adjustments made.

With the Xpress version, you have to make sure the measurements are correct, but you can make adjustments as you heal, etc. without the practitioner.

We watched the video to make sure the measurements were correct...


Posted by: Seraffa, Monday, April 30, 2012, 3:32am; Reply: 31
Quoted from Amazone I.
it is prooven that epigenetically you won't loose any weight if some of your genes are
"off-line"....you can do all you want...sports until you'll japs off ;)...eating low fat or low carb diets.. you will experience... n o t h i n g ... but literally nothing will work!!! Until you are going to *put on* your genetic make up properly... ;D ;D ;D and I also was a bit  ??) asking myselve  about Swami... until I realized.. yep so it is... and gave a try... and today I don't regret it at all :D...


btw.. I guess Dr. D is an NT as well... so far our tendencies to be clear in our approaches and speech is nothing but normal.... ;) ;D NF's always are sooooo f-sidings ;)... feelings... nothing but feelings ;) ;D... jaaauuulll... ;D ;D

btw... please remember..... we aren't thaaat special .... ;) ;D ;D(evil)(whistle)



Yeah. That's exactly why NT's wander over to the NJF forums to stay and learn how to get more in touch with their emotions. We're a very comforting group once we let them in. In fact, so comfortable and accepting, many of the "other types" just hang around our forum ad infinitum, and feel like they need to stay and run the place, for some odd reason. Check it out!  ;)
http://www.infjs.com/forums/

(song) *FEEEEEL-innnnnggggs....whoaaa whoaa whoaaa FEEEEL-inggggs....whoaa whoaaa whoaa ...nothing more than FEEL-ings.......again in my-y HEARTTTTTT......*

*PEE-PUL!!!....PEEE-PUL who need....PEE-PUL!!!.......are the LUCKEIST PEE_PUL....in the...worrrrrrlldd! But first, be a person who needs.....PEE_PULLLLLL!!!*  (wailing loudly!!)

now sing 'em together!!  REAL LOUD AND REAL SAD!!!   ;D
Posted by: Spring, Monday, April 30, 2012, 5:44am; Reply: 32
Maybe you need to stay over there with the rest of those "pee-pull!" You sounded everything but "comforted" in your post on the site.
Posted by: 14442 (Guest), Thursday, May 3, 2012, 4:10pm; Reply: 33
Use your common sense & count calories, carbs etc- whatever you need to do to get & stay on track.  I have never eaten all the portions in the book because duh I'm 5'1" & need fewer calories.  I tailored the diet to my activity level which has increased so I can eat more now but I still don't eat a ton of carbs daily- doesn't work for personally & not in keeping with original O info which says Os don't do well on starches.  You really will need to figure it out yourself; I agree times are hard but there  is a ton of weight loss info online, maybe you need to do some additional research.
Posted by: gardengirl, Thursday, May 3, 2012, 4:33pm; Reply: 34
I have to disagree on the SWAMI. I don't have weight issues myself but have arthritis. As soon as I started SWAMI my symptoms came back (mildly, but that is how it starts and I am not going back to where I was). I do the arthritis BTD (which is pretty close to an elimination diet) and that works best. It's still not perfect but I like having structure and can weed out what isn't working for me and have done so. Does the BTD work for you at all? I don't have much support from doctors because in Canada it is standarized care. Being in the US, can you get help from your doctor regarding your weight, as far as diet goes? I do feel for you as it's frustrating to be stuck or regress. It's a huge undertaking if nothing seems to be working for you. I tried a couple of arthritis programs and really, kind of had to adopt my own thing working with naturopaths and my own research. Good luck.
Posted by: ABJoe, Thursday, May 3, 2012, 4:45pm; Reply: 35
Quoted from gardengirl
As soon as I started SWAMI my symptoms came back (mildly, but that is how it starts and I am not going back to where I was).

I think this was SWAMI kicking some detox / healing into the mix...  I have been continuously healing since I started BTD.  Each time I move to a more specialized diet, the healing has gotten more intense for a period of time...

I'm saying this not to persuade you to continue SWAMI right now, just offering suggestion as to what might be happening...
Posted by: Spring, Thursday, May 3, 2012, 5:05pm; Reply: 36
Quoted from ABJoe

I think this was SWAMI kicking some detox / healing into the mix...  I have been continuously healing since I started BTD.  Each time I move to a more specialized diet, the healing has gotten more intense for a period of time...

I'm saying this not to persuade you to continue SWAMI right now, just offering suggestion as to what might be happening...


What you say is certainly true for me, ABJoe. Every time I have gotten to a "comfort zone," I know it is time to gear down more on my diet. Right away, it is like stirring up a hornet's nest!! It isn't long before there is indisputable proof that it has worked, though, because I feel even better than ever before! (sunny)
Posted by: 14442 (Guest), Friday, May 4, 2012, 5:11pm; Reply: 37
You could always read The Zone, The Warrior Diet, Fast 5 etc- there are so many ways to portion your meals in order to lose weight.  If you aren't able to manage your food issues intuitively this is probably your next step though it isn't what's preached on this board I know.  In the meantime you may also want to use some Bach essences to stabilize your emotions.  You will get the answers about what & how to eat.
Posted by: Spring, Friday, May 4, 2012, 5:31pm; Reply: 38
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 If you aren't able to manage your food issues intuitively this is probably your next step though it isn't what's preached on this board I know. 


I think a good number of us have issues with certain foods on our SWAMI diets. I know I do, but I simply work around them. Grapefruit is my love/hate fruit. I love it, but hate what it does to me. If I eat one about once a month, I don't have a problem. It used to make my joints hurt but not anymore. The problem is the pain I get in my stomach.

Pineapple used to do the same thing to me but now I can eat it every single day for weeks (maybe all the time!) and have no problem with it! I love pineapple!

Lamb is a super food for me, but I don't feel my best if I eat it more than a few times a month. It just seems too "heavy" after I've eaten it a time or two in a week. But I do enjoy it very much around four times a month.

However, I do realize that some people have issues with foods that are harder to identify than mine are.
Posted by: 815 (Guest), Friday, May 4, 2012, 6:09pm; Reply: 39
Quoted from ruthiegirl
Dr D doesn't reccomend low-carbing for most A's..


I've tried low carb and low carb vegetarian and low carb semi vegetarian. I had struggled and had no energy and had much indigestion... Yes. Dr.D  is right.
I'm back to being totally vegetarian. My stomach never felt better.
Posted by: Possum, Saturday, May 5, 2012, 12:25am; Reply: 40
Glad you are feeling so much better Mayflower... I guess it is about working out what our individual bodies do best on :-/ ;)
Quoted from 14442
You could always read The Zone, The Warrior Diet, Fast 5 etc- there are so many ways to portion your meals in order to lose weight.
Interesting Sahara that you mention The Zone... ;) I just picked it up yesterday to peruse, simply out of interest/curiosity... :-/
Posted by: gardengirl, Saturday, May 5, 2012, 11:52am; Reply: 41
Also Possum, there are a lot of books at the library you can check out. I am all about gathering information and playing around to perfect my lifestyle. It's coming along and it has taken me a good year to get to where I am. For me, it's pretty good - with a lot of discipline but it is what I have to do. I tried many different programs but my body just didn't respond and I have to keep my foods to a minimum. It's just the way it is for me right now. The right diet for me shows up in days in my body just like the wrong foods show up within hours in my body. Good luck to you.
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