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Posted by: san j, Tuesday, March 6, 2012, 4:36am
An O friend and I were talking today about O anger, and I repeated something I'd told her a good 10 years ago: That many Os do well to work out hard, to a good sweat, in the morning, so as to find their mood more even throughout the ensuing day.

She said "Wow" as if she'd never heard that before. She hadn't remembered I'd told her that (more than once). It seems now is the time in her life when she's ready for it - There are problems that urgently need to be fixed, and her angry reactivity is one of them.

This question is for you Os and for those who are involved with Os (And who isn't?  ;))
Do you have "fits" of anger, expressions of rage, contempt, criticalness, irritability, that feel good/exhilarating to you to express, but for which you're remorseful because ashamed afterward?
How do you successfully deal with anger?
Has Dr. D'Adamo's work helped you with your mood(s)?
Is there a specific remedy for you? And does it involve intense physical exertion?
Thanks for your input!  :)
Posted by: Lola, Tuesday, March 6, 2012, 5:27am; Reply: 1
exercise is our prosac :)

http://www.4yourtype.com/2012_newsletter_v9n03.asp

lets us get rid of catecholamines
Posted by: Andrea AWsec, Tuesday, March 6, 2012, 12:31pm; Reply: 2
Got a few O's at work that have rage issues.
Posted by: grey rabbit, Tuesday, March 6, 2012, 1:24pm; Reply: 3
My ex is an O that does not successfully deal with anger and had bursts of rage. My (and his) daughter on the other hand is a calm and peaceful O. She is the most loving, gentle mother I have ever seen. She gets plenty of exercise and never drinks coffee, he drank pots of coffee and never got any regular exercise.
Posted by: O in Virginia, Tuesday, March 6, 2012, 2:04pm; Reply: 4
Yes, I get angry and used to have a very short temper.  I'm much better at handling my anger as I've matured (outbursts are seldom now), and a good cardio workout definitely helps drain off that frustration and anger.  I feel much calmer afterward.  Not that I don't still feel irriatated, but I do need that vent in order not to blow.

Actually, my Type A husband has more of an anger problem than I do.   :-/
Posted by: Goldie, Tuesday, March 6, 2012, 3:23pm; Reply: 5
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How do you successfully deal with anger?



That is the question I have asked for years and years.. and found no answer..

only sleeping over night ususally makes it get easier..

It is usually connected with people that just incist on having it their way..

well I have this on my walls.. for years..

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When will 'I' get that they don't get it?


When will i get it, that 'I' don't get it.


I seem to get angry when I can not make changes.. I live for making things better, I can not tolerate status nothing.. either it's good or needs fixing.. sameness is great when things are in the way they should be..

like towels- stacked nicely.. all is well.. a messy closet - I rather put nothing in the closet rather then have it messy.. I hang all things possible IN THE first place to save time, so that drawers are near empty and things don't need folding twice or trice..  

People making me crazy.. like with politics.. IF you are against it (whatever) then just don't do it.. but don't prevent others from doing what they like.. as I will not FORCE you to do it my way.. to each his own concience.. leave me to my sin and you to your's..

Controlling and demanding things of others is the GTREATEST SIN of all!

As for my anger.. how do I deal with it?  poorly for ME.. forgiving others is easy.. but I also seem to FOGET to easaly and so repeat my EXPECTATIONS of inherent goodness or understanding - which all to often become 'catastrophic' expectations ..

read this and life will be easy:

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No matter how 'good' a person you are.. THE BULL will charge you even IF you are a vegetarian..


as for stressful exercise.. bah humbag.. why stress me more?.. I rather seek out a friend and tallk, share a cup of cocoa, or do something constructive,,,,,,, like coming here and share ....  

Exercise when done while angry is way tooooo intense and much more likely hurting my body..

I exercise when i wan't to not because I am a slave to it.. I find exercise in everyday work ..

Not drinking caffeine helps.. not ever being hungry works.. music helps.. nice words from others help.. understanding or at least trying to, is a big help.. walking away from aggrevation helps..

If nothing else works= it's best to clean house.. I get a lot done when angry..

ANGER as a good thing= put's a doubble line under 'IT", or he or she.. IT ends the sharing.. their loss..  

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WITH EVERY GOODBY I LEARN
    

and then I plant my own garden..read a book, wash my windows, look for new friends..  

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But I have a concern.. what of children that are told not to be expressing anger by hitting or stomping or whatever... how is a child ever to cope???

In some ways I am a child that askes that question.. there was never any means to be EXPRESSING anger when I was young.. (words and threats don't help).. they are like trowing something into the corner and then having to pick up the pieces- just not worth the frustration...   I am non violent.. I have no need for it in my life.. so how should one be able to get anger 'dealt' with?/  I ask..
??)

Depression is anger turned inward.. anger is fear!  and yet..I only EXPirience fear seldom - and when I do - I walk away.. I VOTE WITH MY FEET.  

My Heros are : The Red Cross, Dr Albert Schweizer, Ghandy, and also Indira Ghandy, and kindness..

My work with electro magnetic vibrations helps.. at least they will prevent people from getting hurt and then they can HEAL from the inside out..  
Posted by: ABJoe, Tuesday, March 6, 2012, 4:16pm; Reply: 6
Quoted from Goldie
But I have a concern.. what of children that are told not to be expressing anger by hitting or stomping or whatever... how is a child ever to cope???

I think part of the answer to this question is that when you do regular exercise, the catecholamine levels stay at a more steady level, so it is less likely that an irritation will trigger a violent outburst.  

It will always be important for parents to teach their children to keep emotions under control, however.  
Posted by: Jared, Tuesday, March 6, 2012, 5:06pm; Reply: 7
I am very peaceful. However, I do have a wrathful imagination.
Posted by: ruthiegirl, Tuesday, March 6, 2012, 5:07pm; Reply: 8
I'm fit to bursts of rage that pass almost as quickly as they come up. DD2 (O) and DS (B) are similar.

DD1 (O) is the opposite. It takes a LOT to set her off, and then she's upset for a very long time. She also has very low tolerance for brief outbursts.

A typicaly scene in my house is that DD2 and I yell about something small, and 2 minutes later the problem is resolved and we've both forgotten about it. Meanwhile, DD1 is all upset from witnessing our "violent outburst" and is still shaky,unsettled, and irritable an hour later, when we have no clue what it is that upset her.

It's a really bad mix of temperments to have in one house. If I was going to guess blood types based on temperment/personality, I would have guessed DD1 was the "odd one out" rather than DS.

I try to encourage my kids to express their anger in ways that don't hurt others. Going for a walk, throwing their own soft toys around their own space,  punching a pillow, having a good cry, blowing things up on a video game, etc. Tossing around furniture in the living room is NOT acceptable! Thank goodness DS has stopped doing that!
Posted by: Spring, Tuesday, March 6, 2012, 5:47pm; Reply: 9
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But I have a concern.. what of children that are told not to be expressing anger by hitting or stomping or whatever... how is a child ever to cope???
Goldie
When our sons would get to the point of punching one another, we would run them out of the house whether it was cold or whatever. We would tell them that we couldn't tolerate them punching each other so they would have to do it outside. Of course, both of them were conscious of the neighbors, so they would cool off fast - especially if it was cold outside! They would soon come back in laughing. But one thing they prized very highly was that these two A-Type parents didn't spend their time arguing about this and that and making life miserable for everyone around them! I used to warn them that when/if they married not to do any arguing around us because they didn't have to put up with it out of us, and we certainly didn't want to have to listen to it from them and their spouses. AND to never expect us to take up for them if they did get into an argument with their wives! A good sense of humor goes a loooog way in relationships.
Posted by: gardengirl, Tuesday, March 6, 2012, 9:12pm; Reply: 10
I was the worst when I was younger. It's funny though, everyone thought I was all sweet and quiet, etc. It was the blond hair and blue eyes I'm guessing because it sure wasn't my personality! I remember kicking holes in the wall, throwing things, etc. As I matured I grew out of it which is good because the way my day is going I could see myself throwing a few things around (like my two year old ha ha and yes I am joking) but I turn on the TV and here I sit on the computer for 1/2 hour by myself. I also went outside to chop ice off the driveway to get some frustration out. I refrained from pulling out the axe to do a better job with the ice. That would be dangerous - ha ha again. See, already a lighter mood.
Posted by: 14442 (Guest), Tuesday, March 6, 2012, 9:16pm; Reply: 11
Definitely true.
Posted by: passionprincess, Tuesday, March 6, 2012, 9:32pm; Reply: 12
I wonder if the short, hot-tempered quality is more common in hunters. My dad is an O and he can seem impatient and short-tempered. He never holds a grudge and after he explodes, it is all good. It takes a lot to set him off (especially with us, kids... now adult children) but he can be impatient with other things such as trying to do too much in one day and double booking appointments instead of waiting for one appointment to end and moving on.

I am suspecting that being 100% compliant will help him become more balanced.

My mom is a very high strung AB. Being raised by two high strung parents, I was an unbalanced B (when I was not compliant) and had a super short fuse. I became better at controlling my temper and impulses as I got older and became very calm and balanced since the GTD. My sister, who is a B, a teacher (I suspect), does not have a temper, per se. It takes a lot to set her off and once she is set off, she will not go into a fit of rage but become very stubborn and persistent. My other sister, an A - OMG - I cannot even start to describe her rage.

I am wondering if certain genotypes have a tendency to display their anger and rage more prominently...
Posted by: gardengirl, Tuesday, March 6, 2012, 9:41pm; Reply: 13
I also learn to watch myself by watching my other O friends! The behaviour can be very irrational (as with me).
Posted by: koahiatamadl, Tuesday, March 6, 2012, 9:44pm; Reply: 14
Interesting point.  

I find that I get really irritable spending time with some people, even people I really like.  Normally people who absorb or process information or react to situations completely differently to me or the people I spend most of my time with.  What I mean by that is that most of the people in my circle have similar educational and professional backgrounds and thus act and react in certain ways, very similar to the way I act or react.  And I guess it just takes that little bit of extra effort to adjust my style when faced with people who are wired very differently.

When I am faced with people who I find irritating in a work setting I normally manage to control any angry tendencies because professional conduct demands that I find some way of working with them and their ways.  And I very rarely have any kind of angry outbursts at work despite working in a high pressure environment.  

But in my personal life I seem to struggle to be as patient or perhaps I am just less guarded. Stuff irritates me that would barely register as irritating at work and because I am less guarded it seems to creep up on me and all of a sudden I have some kind of grumpy outburst.  Clearly the recipient (it is one person in particular) does not deserve that and it is a tendency I have become much more aware of recently and want to really curb... exercise before the next meeting me thinks!    
Posted by: mpolyglottos, Tuesday, March 6, 2012, 10:13pm; Reply: 15
Lectin in my blood stream induces toxic psychosis. It is brief but intense. When I was a kid, is blow my lid so quickly that my friends would provoke me just to get a response. I used to punch and kick holes in the walls. My parents channeled my anger by buying me a punching bag. I'd beat the c**p out of it frequently, which was better than destroying the house. They put me in all sorts of organized sports: soccer, baseball, basketball, football, karate, bmx, shot put, etc. All of this helped immensely. It wasn't until I injured my back in high school that my adrenaline no longer had an outlet. This thankfully led to a religious conversion experience. This is a whole other topic....
As a nonnie, I've been wondering if my hyper sensitivity, as well as my almost exclusively fast-twitch build, are due to that.
As an Explorer, I'm paying attention to my liver more recently. According to TCM, liver heat creates liver wind, which manifests as a tic disorder. I suffer this when I'm not compliant. Also, according to 8 body type theory, I'm hepatonian, which means my liver is physically my largest organ. Conversely, my lungs are my smallest. The trademark for hepatonians is anger and quick temper. We need red meat to cool the liver. We also need sweat inducing exercise to strenghten our weakest organ, our lungs. I always feel terrific after an intense exercise :)
Posted by: san j, Wednesday, March 7, 2012, 12:13am; Reply: 16
A number of you have referred to the (OMG, Look Out!)  :o rage of an A, as something very different from the O variety.

I have seen this too.
It seems the O sort is a free-floating irritability seeking a target, and when it finds one it expresses itself royally, having an end. This can be in 15 minutes, 20 minutes, or much less... generally. It can manifest versus total strangers who are annoying or hindering the O, even unknowingly, as well as toward friends, family, and acquaintances who are non-threatening, i.e., upon whom the O doesn't rely for favors or to whom s/he doesn't feel beholden.
The A sort, however, usually represents the venting of a very longstanding resentment. The A person will surprise the unsuspecting, because s/he is normally not irritible or flexing for a fight. It seems to come out of the blue and level everything in its path, like a tornado, which can last for HOURS. What's more, the resentment CONTINUES AFTER THE RAGE IS SPENT.
Whereas the O's delivery might be just as destructive as the A's, it is quick and habitual, and is often followed by shame and intense remorse; people who know the O develop means/methods of traversing those minutes / dealing with the periodic storm, knowing the O will apologize and, sigh, lamely promise not to do it again, if pressed. The victim might see flowers, jewelry, etc. eventuate from these tempests.
The A can seem to have more of a permanent goal when s/he blows: The Annihilation of the Threat (read, in some cases: Other individual). The A's rages can be far fewer-and-further-between than those of the O, but they are more often of the sort that leads to Relationship Rupture. The A is not likely to apologize, but, rather, to await the capitulation of the victim, who must agree that the perp is correct or, perhaps, be shunned/rejected by the A permanently or semi-permanently, i.e., put on his/her s**t list.

This has been a very general comparison. But since some of you refer to the Immense Power of the A rage, in the context of a discussion of my Original Post treating of O's more free-floating anger, I thought I'd make the distinction here, as I understand it.

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Since the O anger is apparently catecholamine-driven, why isn't the AB similarly famous for angry tirades? Isn't the latter's stress-level also primed by catecholamines? Anyone look into this?

Hmmm: I sort of answer my own question in this from my 2008 Blog Journal:
http://www.dadamo.com/B2blogs/blogs/index.php/2010/12/08/impressions-of-o?blog=8
What do you think?

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Here's a blog of mine, from six years ago, sort of apropos, and amusing, re two O cab drivers in San Francisco.
http://www.dadamo.com/B2blogs/blogs/index.php/2006/08/10/two-screechin-o-cabbies?blog=8
Posted by: Tom Martens, Wednesday, March 7, 2012, 12:31am; Reply: 17
If I don't exercise for a week or so I tend to get easily frustrated and irritable.  Once I go running for just 1 mile, I feel so much better afterwards.
Posted by: ABJoe, Wednesday, March 7, 2012, 12:44am; Reply: 18
Quoted from san j
Since the O anger is apparently catecholamine-driven, why isn't the AB similarly famous for angry tirades? Isn't the latter's stress-level also primed by catecholamines? Anyone look into this?

When I was eating the anything diet, I was in so much pain that any perceived threat would cause me to blow up, but usually it was a very quick and done thing.  Eliminate the threat and be happy again.  This usually didn't work so well with my A WW, however, because about the time I was finished, she was now hurt and would be upset for 2 weeks that I could be so "unfeeling"...

Now that we are eating per BTD / SWAMI, I rarely blow up...  Most of the time, we just converse about any difference or if she pops, I'll just shut up and let her spout without a response and she'll settle down in a matter of an hour or so...  
Posted by: cajun, Wednesday, March 7, 2012, 12:57am; Reply: 19
Being an A, coming from an A Mother, an O Father, married to an O with one O son, and having 2 best friends that are O's......I agree with SanJ and especially what she said
regarding the difference between the rage/holding grudges/apologizing, etc of O's and A's! In fact, in my experiences..see above...she hit it right on the money, honey! ;) ;D
Posted by: Melissa_J, Wednesday, March 7, 2012, 4:05am; Reply: 20
I have seen something quite different between As and Os.  From what I've seen being married to an A (and being an O), is that As are more high-strung, and easily stressed.  They react quickly and calm down just as quickly, returning to normal as soon as the stress or danger has passed.  They can often laugh about things much sooner after the fact than Os.

Os have a much longer fuse, but a bigger destructive force.  Os certainly can harbor resentments, as can anyone.  Once an O gets upset, it can be very hard to calm down and get under control.  I've found a punching bag and a pair of running shoes to be a necessity. Exercise can be calming and therapeutic for As, but healing for Os.  Os have a capacity to remain calm and calculating in the face of danger, yet take hours or even days to calm back down.  If I get stressed before breakfast and a shower, my day is shot (can only be undone with exercise followed by meditation or a nap).  Os can also endure long periods of stress with apparent patience, only to fall apart when it is over.  As endure, but once the stress is over, they are normal and happy, not too shaken and exhausted to celebrate.

Genotype difference probably figure in greatly, at least for Os, and between introverts and extroverts, so I speak as an introvert.  Extrovert Os tend to express themselves more often and tend to be more "sparky".  Introverts internalize things and let stresses build up.  I am also a hunter, so adrenal exhaustion can be an issue, as it can be for As.
Posted by: Melissa_J, Wednesday, March 7, 2012, 4:07am; Reply: 21
I'm sure gender difference can come into play as well.  If you pumped a bunch of testosterone into me I'm sure I would not be pleasant to be around.
Posted by: cajun, Wednesday, March 7, 2012, 4:33am; Reply: 22
The O's in my life, whether male or female, are all Hunters or Explorers.
They will all tell you that I hold grudges, they do not.
They will all tell you that I am rarely the first to apologize....it takes me awhile after I am mad/hurt/disgusted.
They will all tell you I am the first to "fly off the handle"...I can anger quickly and do not cool down for awhile.
All this being said, they will all tell you that I am the most loyal, friendly and generous(when I want to be) out of us all! :) ;D
Posted by: Spring, Wednesday, March 7, 2012, 5:00am; Reply: 23
I have never been around people at work or at home who exploded the way it is being described here. I have never seen a hole punched in a wall or any of that sort of thing. Both my husband and I are A-types and both of us dislike arguing even, let alone blowing up about anything. I guess that is one reason I always disliked - intensely - soap operas! I can do without that high octane stuff any day!! But I don't mean to sound like I don't sympathize with people who have to vent. It certainly beats having a heart attack just so long as it doesn't cause another person to have one!! (hugegrin)
Posted by: san j, Wednesday, March 7, 2012, 5:53am; Reply: 24
Quoted from cajun
I am the most loyal, friendly and generous(when I want to be) out of us all!


Keep wanting to be, darlin'!  :K)
Posted by: passionprincess, Wednesday, March 7, 2012, 7:50am; Reply: 25
A lot of it is nature but there is also nurture.

My parents AB mom and O hunter dad can be seen as high strung but in the Korean culture, they are not seen that way. Many Koreans are known for being high strung and having short-tempers. I lived with my parents until I moved away to college and have had times where I would live with them for months at a time before moving out. They rarely fight. Both parents never hold grudges and always talk things out within 30 minutes of an argument. I could be blessed with parents who love to communicate and want to have a healthy marriage.

My sisters and I were raised in this sort of environment. Although our parents were seen as authoritarian "dictators" during our high school years ;D, they gave us more freedom and started to respect us. These days, we have more of a friendship than anything else since my baby sister is 30.

Both my sister and I (the Bs... I suspect she is a teacher) and I have grown more even-tempered with age. My sister is more stubborn while I am just aggressive. I know when I am fighting a losing battle and known when to retreat.

As for my A sister, though... she will hold grudges. When we get into stupid tiffs, she will bring up an incident involving a sweater from when we were 10 years old! I am so serious. One day, my parents had to misfortune of overhearing the argument and got sucked into it. Mom and Dad could not even remember the sweater and claimed that my sister was making herself into a victim. Let's say the issue still has not been resolved and my sister is resentful about that issue.

I tried to get my sister on the diet but she is very sensitive about diets. I can't even bring it up. I walk egg shells around her. She blows up easily and holds grudges. :(
Posted by: Melissa_J, Wednesday, March 7, 2012, 7:55am; Reply: 26
As and Os are a good combination, even if we do drive each other nuts sometimes!

I do find As to be very loyal.

My husband and I don't yell or even argue (much).  My extroverted O sister and her extroverted A husband seem to require arguments, just to spice up life.

I am one who can punch or kick a wall, but never when anybody is watching or can be affected by it.  

Bs have a special place in my heart as well.  My mom is a B, as are many siblings, and I find their connection to family and nature to be very refreshing, as well as their gentle non-conformism.

Sorry, I don't know any ABs other than those I met on this board...or I'd have more to say.
Posted by: passionprincess, Wednesday, March 7, 2012, 8:02am; Reply: 27
Oh yeah - As are die hard loyals! I know my sister does not get along with the family right now due to certain issues but she will stick with friends even when they are treating her badly. :( Unfortunately, she is too loyal to the point where it is difficult for her to cut off abusive friends!

Both of my parents O and AB are very extroverted. They LOVE having company over. I moved back home because I am in transition between grad programs and when I lived with them during my first master's, I had to find a place to study because they would have company hanging out drinking and singing karaoke into the wee hours of the night!

I am quite social but I need my alone time or I go crazy. I guess that is the thing about being a B.

Dad is semi-retired right now mainly due to health reasons but he keeps himself busy with his hobbies. He plays the trumpet and when he is really upset or something, he will retreat to his office and play. I think he is getting aerobic exercise that way... giving his lungs a workout. Other than that, he is super social and has friends/company over very often.

As far as hobbies and interest go, I am definitely my dad's daughter. So, in my family, it is a O and B combo. Mom AB and A sister get along better in terms of being shopping buddies, etc. Mom and I are more like sisters now that I am older but her interests are similar to my A sister's.

Quoted from Melissa_J
As and Os are a good combination, even if we do drive each other nuts sometimes!

I do find As to be very loyal.

My husband and I don't yell or even argue (much).  My extroverted O sister and her extroverted A husband seem to require arguments, just to spice up life.

I am one who can punch or kick a wall, but never when anybody is watching or can be affected by it.  

Bs have a special place in my heart as well.  My mom is a B, as are many siblings, and I find their connection to family and nature to be very refreshing, as well as their gentle non-conformism.

Sorry, I don't know any ABs other than those I met on this board...or I'd have more to say.


Posted by: Melissa_J, Wednesday, March 7, 2012, 8:07am; Reply: 28
I think any type can maladapt to stress by holding grudges, refusing to admit wrongdoing, or mistreating others in many ways.  I don't think any blood type is immune to such things, and I'm sure all blood types are represented in different personality disorders.

How we can best manage our own neurotransmitter dilemmas, that's where BTD comes in handy.  As with anything, we have to choose who and how we want to be, and use BT guidelines to work toward it.  A weakness can become a strength, if we are honest with ourselves and willing to work at it.  I'm sure there is a lot of variation in behavior among the different types.  I know what my tendencies are, but I also know how to deal with them in a constructive way.  
Posted by: passionprincess, Wednesday, March 7, 2012, 9:38am; Reply: 29
Most definitely! Too bad this is not Facebook. I would have clicked the "like" button. :)

Quoted from Melissa_J
I think any type can maladapt to stress by holding grudges, refusing to admit wrongdoing, or mistreating others in many ways.  I don't think any blood type is immune to such things, and I'm sure all blood types are represented in different personality disorders.

How we can best manage our own neurotransmitter dilemmas, that's where BTD comes in handy.  As with anything, we have to choose who and how we want to be, and use BT guidelines to work toward it.  A weakness can become a strength, if we are honest with ourselves and willing to work at it.  I'm sure there is a lot of variation in behavior among the different types.  I know what my tendencies are, but I also know how to deal with them in a constructive way.  


Posted by: Goldie, Wednesday, March 7, 2012, 2:15pm; Reply: 30
I think loyalty when decieved is a hard felt thing going inward..

on the other hand when one does not respond to some hurt then the hurting continues from others or one self..

I think PRACITCING tolerance is the only option, at least for me, or I hurt me with my own circular thinking.  I am grateful for every kind word I ever heard from any place.. they allow me to stay calm ..

but not yesterday .. yesterday someone made a anti someone remark and I could not control the intensity with which I tried to explain..

I know I will do research and show the person just what was wrong.. even though most opinionated persons ever see any other side.. but I will try to document and show in neutral ways what is the real answer..

I hate injustice and I react to it.. I wish I could be a better person, but sometimes it's hard.. my mind sets off in directions I REALLY do not wish to go.. and my mouth follows..  I embarrass me and feel sorry for the other, as basically i know that their life is theirs and not for me to judge.. ..

aoh aoh aoh    
Posted by: AKArtlover, Wednesday, March 7, 2012, 4:15pm; Reply: 31
Anger is also a signal that the liver/gallbladder is congested. About 95% of Americans.  :P

Myself included. Working on it....
Posted by: Spring, Wednesday, March 7, 2012, 4:28pm; Reply: 32
Quoted from passionprincess
Most definitely! Too bad this is not Facebook. I would have clicked the "like" button. :)


Amen!!
Posted by: Goldie, Wednesday, March 7, 2012, 6:07pm; Reply: 33
I just found out that the local store is closing its dorrs to be absorbed by a large corp.. I am sooooo dissapointed sooooo upset I have no words.I feel for the future of all kids who will not get local jobs for nothing othe rthe n walmart mega stores..

I am so upset that I could get  STROCKE.. I have no idea how to not scream as loud as i can and scra the bears in their den.. I am upset,, I have no outlet but just F.... en not to care...

so the serenty prayer.. but i mean what is the world coming to if we can not care..

I am madder then hell .. as far as i am concernd the world deserves to get blown up and restarted from scratch..  

Then my friend who had insurance by our state for her prescription now can not even get a reduction until she is in some kind of doughnut hole.. whatever that is .. I mean what is she supposed to do, when she has hardly enough money to buy oatmeal for 2 meals a day.. what will be when all the other cuts are made..

I feel .. I wish I was a bast...d and would not care.. be like the insides of big companies.. selfish and greedy.. I wish I could just walk away, but I don;t know how,..

so sorry to vent here.. but I hope you don't mind..  
Posted by: ruthiegirl, Wednesday, March 7, 2012, 6:35pm; Reply: 34
The more I read about "typical blood type personalities" the less I think there is any correlation. Or, at least, that there are an incredible number of exceptions.

Somebody wondered if Hunters tend to "blow up" more than other O GTs... well, I'm a Gatherer, and I suspect DD2 is an Explorer (finger lenths suggest Hunter or Explorer, but she's way too curvy to be a Hunter- is there such thing as a D cup Hunter?) but she's a "mini me" when it comes to personality. DD1 I'd measured out to be Gatherer but SWAMI says Explorer, and she's the "most A-like personality" of us all.

Quoted from ]Melissa_J
Os have a much longer fuse, but a bigger destructive force.  Os certainly can harbor resentments, as can anyone.  Once an O gets upset, it can be very hard to calm down and get under control.  I've found a punching bag and a pair of running shoes to be a necessity. Exercise can be calming and therapeutic for As, but healing for Os.  Os have a capacity to remain calm and calculating in the face of danger, yet take hours or even days to calm back down.  If I get stressed before breakfast and a shower, my day is shot (can only be undone with exercise followed by meditation or a nap).  Os can also endure long periods of stress with apparent patience, only to fall apart when it is over.  As endure, but once the stress is over, they are normal and happy, not too shaken and exhausted to celebrate.

Genotype difference probably figure in greatly, at least for Os, and between introverts and extroverts, so I speak as an introvert.  Extrovert Os tend to express themselves more often and tend to be more "sparky".  Introverts internalize things and let stresses build up.  I am also a hunter, so adrenal exhaustion can be an issue, as it can be for As.
I'm an introvert but I express myself and am very "sparky." I have a VERY short fuse when I'm overwhelmed, and I get overwhelmed easily when I don't get enough alone time. I can enjoy being with people, but I find it draining. That makes me an Introvert, yet I don't   have a problem expressing myself around family. I have a hard time keeping myself from "blowing up" when I'm having a bad day.

Like I said, the more I read about personality traits being linked to blood type or genotype, the less stock I put into any of it. That or my family are all exceptions.
Posted by: passionprincess, Wednesday, March 7, 2012, 7:40pm; Reply: 35
Your d cup hunter daughter sounds a lot like me. LOL. I am a nomad who is supposed to be more sinewy and lean. I am sinewy and lean all over except for my boobs. I realize that I have double d cups as a result of estrogen dominance. I started using progesterone cream and I think my boobs shrank a tad bit - very full d cups... or maybe it is my imagination in thinking my boobs shrank a bit. When people see me from behind, they think I am petite and "small" (tiny, too... rolling my eyes... so sick of the tiny, small, etc. comments!). However, when they see me from the front, they wonder where the boobs came from. :( I tend to slouch because my bras never fit right and the straps pull into my body. It sucks to try and buy dresses since I need to get the waistline altered Suits - tops are always 1-2 sizes bigger than the bottoms. I wear minimizer bras or very loose tops when teaching because people do not take boobs seriously in academia.  :'( ??)

As for your short fuse, Ruthie, it could be both nature and nurture. My "typical" blood type personality did not start manifesting until later on. My parents are high strung and I also had other incidents in life that contributed to my formerly crazy high strung short fuse personality.

Who knows what the REAL answer is - we are having fun speculating and seeing whether we fit into the categories or not.



Quoted from ruthiegirl
The more I read about "typical blood type personalities" the less I think there is any correlation. Or, at least, that there are an incredible number of exceptions.

Somebody wondered if Hunters tend to "blow up" more than other O GTs... well, I'm a Gatherer, and I suspect DD2 is an Explorer (finger lenths suggest Hunter or Explorer, but she's way too curvy to be a Hunter- is there such thing as a D cup Hunter?) but she's a "mini me" when it comes to personality. DD1 I'd measured out to be Gatherer but SWAMI says Explorer, and she's the "most A-like personality" of us all.

I'm an introvert but I express myself and am very "sparky." I have a VERY short fuse when I'm overwhelmed, and I get overwhelmed easily when I don't get enough alone time. I can enjoy being with people, but I find it draining. That makes me an Introvert, yet I don't   have a problem expressing myself around family. I have a hard time keeping myself from "blowing up" when I'm having a bad day.

Like I said, the more I read about personality traits being linked to blood type or genotype, the less stock I put into any of it. That or my family are all exceptions.


Posted by: Jane, Wednesday, March 7, 2012, 8:09pm; Reply: 36
I don't blow up....if I'm overwhelmed, I get nervous and crabby - my kids would tell you that....but I don't have big blowups.  In fact, I hate being confrontational, almost to the point where I could benefit from being more confrontational at times.  I used to have people tell me I need to be more assertive.  I think I've gotten better at that.  I'm not a pushover though.  I just don't like confrontations.

My A sons can both get angry and show their anger much more than I do.  My younger son makes jokes about coming over to visit so we can yell at each other...but it's never about anything serious.  

I'm not sure it's blood type related.  I think it has more to do with how you were raised and what you've encountered throughout your life.
Posted by: 14442 (Guest), Wednesday, March 7, 2012, 8:43pm; Reply: 37
Quoted from AKArtlover
Anger is also a signal that the liver/gallbladder is congested. About 95% of Americans.  :P

Myself included. Working on it....


Yes this is what they say in TCM (chinese medicine).  Have you thought about doing a liver cleanse?  I'm thinking of doing one.  Exercise is good for the lungs which helps clear congestion from the liver- another reason it is important for Os.

I did a liver cleanse in the 90s, was kind of scary but I did pass gallstones.

Posted by: Easy E, Wednesday, March 7, 2012, 8:47pm; Reply: 38
When i eat wrong for too long and do not exercise well, i have a short fuse and take a long time to cool off.  I have had cops called on me for the noise coming from rage episodes in the past, have destroyed property, and basically looked like an F'ing psycho!!!  

I am easy going naturally and very nice, which is why it scared others so much.  I did not want to really hurt anyone, just had a lot of energy inside needing to come out.  
Posted by: l'ordinateur, Wednesday, March 7, 2012, 9:03pm; Reply: 39
Quoted from san j

The A sort, however, usually represents the venting of a very longstanding resentment. The A person will surprise the unsuspecting, because s/he is normally not irritible or flexing for a fight. It seems to come out of the blue and level everything in its path, like a tornado, which can last for HOURS. What's more, the resentment CONTINUES AFTER THE RAGE IS SPENT.
Whereas the O's delivery might be just as destructive as the A's, it is quick and habitual, and is often followed by shame and intense remorse; people who know the O develop means/methods of traversing those minutes / dealing with the periodic storm, knowing the O will apologize and, sigh, lamely promise not to do it again, if pressed. The victim might see flowers, jewelry, etc. eventuate from these tempests.


This is very true for me , however i have lost friends/boyfriend because i normally am very nice and people pleasing, letting the annoyance bubble under the surface and one day, possibly two years after we have met(it can take that long) i SNAP! I think they think I have lost the plot , changed from the person they knew and become a nutcase.
My friend who is an O is always snappy and is known for being a bit agro so people just know that thats the way she is and those around her accept her that way.
Ive also been thought to be naive because I don't like to argue my point, not because I don't have opinions , just because I don't like to argue it gets me so stressed I end up crying or going crazy like "Leave me alooonnne!"
Posted by: san j, Wednesday, March 7, 2012, 9:44pm; Reply: 40
This thread, O and Anger, is really about the O's tendency, attested to by Dr. D'Adamo, to notable anger management problems where the exercise type and level and even perhaps timing are insufficient or not well matched with the individual's needs.

I didn't mean to stereotype personalities based on blood type, even where I posted to differentiate the sort of "uncharacteristic" rage you sometimes see from certain A's.

I'm very much interested in how O's successfully are dealing with the Anger Problem they face and was hoping you could all trade stories and perhaps help each other while we all learn from you.  :)
Posted by: 17750 (Guest), Thursday, March 8, 2012, 6:36am; Reply: 41
O-.
I do much better emotionally when I stay with my 'ER4YT' diet.
I feel it is so necessary that I do my areobic walk or some type of exercise daily.  
My homeopathic doctor prescribed Jyrus – Hegsii Research Labs, a natural suplement which has calming effects. I only take this once in awhile.
I use natural hormone replacement twice daily.
I tried something interesting on a single web sight. I put a photo on there of a meal of what I had fixed for type O and sent that photo of food to several male singles on that site. Several responded that they couldn't eat that meal and those that could were blood type Os. Sort of a sneaky way to find out if they are compatible. If I ever got married again I wouldn't want to be married to anyone other than a blood type O. And of course his numerolgy numbers would have to be compatible also.
I have discovered another element which influences my mood, Numerology. My best days are those with a 1, 5, 7 since I am a Life Path 1. For instance today is 3/8/12 (8 can go either way as far as being compatible). 3/9/12 (9 compatible). 3/10/12 (10 compatible). 3/6/12 wasn't a very good day for me emotionally. But happy as a lark 3/7/12. 2,4,6 seems to be toxic #s for Life Path 1s. I try to plan important appointments and events on compatible days.
Take it or leave it, what is good for one is poison to another.
Posted by: Lola, Thursday, March 8, 2012, 6:55am; Reply: 42
read the news letter this march
http://www.4yourtype.com/2012_newsletter_v9n03.asp
Posted by: AKArtlover, Thursday, March 8, 2012, 5:36pm; Reply: 43
Quoted from 14442


Yes this is what they say in TCM (chinese medicine).  Have you thought about doing a liver cleanse?  I'm thinking of doing one.  Exercise is good for the lungs which helps clear congestion from the liver- another reason it is important for Os.

I did a liver cleanse in the 90s, was kind of scary but I did pass gallstones.



http://www.amazon.com/The-Liver-Gallbladder-Miracle-Cleanse/dp/1569756066/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1331227833&sr=1-2

Plan to do this as long as it agrees with my body (or some form of it as there are a few variations) about monthly until I get an all clear for 2 months. Check out the reviews. Also some pretty amazing testimonials in the book/website. I think the author is a little flaky on his website, but whatever works (he didn't invent the process).
Posted by: Easy E, Thursday, March 8, 2012, 9:15pm; Reply: 44
I think rage and anger come from impeded liver functioning when it is chronic, when someone is snappy and then remorseful, or has a short fuse and takes a long time to clear the heat physically, not a mental thing.  

These emotions also can inhibit functioning of the liver, since the chemicals have to be processed by the liver.
Posted by: Goldie, Friday, March 9, 2012, 4:56am; Reply: 45
darn it i typed a reply and cancelled it.. so here again:  

I feel better after my 2 days of being UPSET.. somehow after two hours sleep this evening I feel CALM ... yes we used to say :  someone or something crawled over 'her' liver.. when the person acted out.

MY possible fix .. I took three portions of Trehaloosa powder over 2 days..
.. The power of suggestion.. in the speech below, he mentions Trehaloosa might fix a persons brain within three days.. and maybe it fixed my liver?! :o

I TAKE that!

http://www.amazon.com/Infrared.....331180759&sr=8-1    
Posted by: Easy E, Friday, March 9, 2012, 2:44pm; Reply: 46
I think this is a good example of what san j was describing, courtesy of samuel l jackson (last section of the clip)!  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uETsBvisKAA
Posted by: marjorie, Friday, March 9, 2012, 6:18pm; Reply: 47
I workout and then feel better immediately. Plus, lo carb works for me in general. I noticed I get irritable and have anger management issues when I am not eating enough protein, or enough food in general.

just my two cents:)
Posted by: David, Friday, March 9, 2012, 6:39pm; Reply: 48
I have never had an issue with chronic anger. I did notice over a period of years of eating a lot of cheese, wheat and dairy that it led to sinus congestion, lung congestion, intestinal congestion and constipation.

A few times after realizing I had made some-kind of emotionally angry outburst... I also realized that my colon was congested, I hadn't had a bowel movement in the past 24 hours, and I was constipated. After a good BM. I felt a lot better.

I also used to do a lot of aerobic activity like riding my bike a long distance, running 4-5 miles, or walking up and down a mountain. I found all these activities increased intestinal function... to my great satisfaction.

In instances when I was angry, frustrated or at wits end, I have found that all the above activities to be refreshing, balancing and vitalizing.

Discontinuing the foods mentioned above has also reduced all the mentioned symptoms.
Posted by: yvonneb, Friday, March 9, 2012, 10:39pm; Reply: 49
Quoted from ruthiegirl
is there such thing as a D cup Hunter?)  


Yes, me- and it's an E cup ;)
Don't know how SWAMI got me down as one, since my fingers are more or less the same length, but hey- I'm not arguing ;D
Posted by: Christopher1, Friday, March 9, 2012, 11:06pm; Reply: 50
Quoted from passionprincess
Your d cup hunter daughter sounds a lot like me. LOL. I am a nomad who is supposed to be more sinewy and lean. I am sinewy and lean all over except for my boobs. I realize that I have double d cups as a result of estrogen dominance. I started using progesterone cream and I think my boobs shrank a tad bit - very full d cups... or maybe it is my imagination in thinking my boobs shrank a bit. When people see me from behind, they think I am petite and "small" (tiny, too... rolling my eyes... so sick of the tiny, small, etc. comments!). However, when they see me from the front, they wonder where the boobs came from. :( I tend to slouch because my bras never fit right and the straps pull into my body. It sucks to try and buy dresses since I need to get the waistline altered Suits - tops are always 1-2 sizes bigger than the bottoms. I wear minimizer bras or very loose tops when teaching because people do not take boobs seriously in academia.  :'( ??)

As for your short fuse, Ruthie, it could be both nature and nurture. My "typical" blood type personality did not start manifesting until later on. My parents are high strung and I also had other incidents in life that contributed to my formerly crazy high strung short fuse personality.

Who knows what the REAL answer is - we are having fun speculating and seeing whether we fit into the categories or not.







You sound disappointed because you have large breasts. Most women would kill for large breasts.
Posted by: Amazone I., Saturday, March 10, 2012, 9:07am; Reply: 51
where is that beautiful video about bt's and their *selfs* ??) ;) ;D....

I observed often B's and O's is la guerra totale coz of a genuine dominance question ;) ;D...A's & O's can learn how to change their own behaviour while one is E- and the other i-vert.....and AB's need to overcome their attitude of being or superintrovert
and just flying away while not passing throughout the conflict...or even getting a little acid called cynisme.... ;) ;D :X

ahha... here it is ;) ;D....

http://www.youtube.com/watch2v=RqpsLmqu9ao&feature=related


Posted by: yaeli, Sunday, March 11, 2012, 5:51am; Reply: 52
To sante's questions, I regard unwanted and unhealthy anger as originating from an inner error or mistake in judging reality. Dr. D's genius contribution to this is his description of type O as "O speak before they think". Whenever an O asks me "What is O?", this is the answer I immediately give (before thinking), and usually a smile appears on the O's face. "You know what?", they say, "This is so true!".

So, the remedy is to recognize that one is not God and is not perfect and there isn't a person on earth who will not err. Given the permission to err from time to time, whenever one notices anger appearing or raging, it's one's queue to ask oneself: "Where am I erring? What am I missing in the picture?" and ask for help to locate this. This would open up a hell of a lot, for the present and for the future.

Because, basically anger is targeted towards oneself alone.  :K)
Posted by: Maria Giovanna, Sunday, March 11, 2012, 8:44am; Reply: 53
This A is so resentful for words uttered without care and thought !   LOL
I remebered him all the bad things an O hunter or explorer did me and I lost  the friend , but so be it they were too much
Posted by: Suzanne, Sunday, March 11, 2012, 9:54pm; Reply: 54
It goes against the trend of this thread - but in my family - immediate and extended - the Type Os are calm and laid back - the Type As are more stressed and have quicker tempers.
Posted by: Christopher1, Sunday, March 11, 2012, 10:02pm; Reply: 55
I think type O first borns are the angry ones and the stressed ones. First borns absorb most of the mercury from the mother (amalgams etc.).
Posted by: Patty H, Sunday, March 11, 2012, 11:19pm; Reply: 56
I live with a household full of O's.  My husband, son and daughter are all O secretors and I am the only non-secretor.  The interesting thing is that I can get angry (like Ruthie), fly off the handle, but once it is out, I forget about it and move on.  No matter how mad something makes me I totally forget about it in time and move on.

However, my husband and daughter seem to be the ones who hold things in and then when they get mad, they EXPLODE WITH RAGE.  However, the real problem is that they do not let go of it.  They hold onto it and it tends to build resentment even though they have expressed their anger.  I go along thinking everything is fine and then it comes up again.

Our son seems to be the most even tempered O I have ever met, although still waters run deep and I do wonder where his feelings go . . .

I think that my outbursts that happen more often are more healthy than the way my husband and daughter deal with their anger, and am glad that I can express my feelings and then let go and move on.
Posted by: passionprincess, Monday, March 12, 2012, 8:13am; Reply: 57
I have a love-hate relationship with my breasts. Being Asian, the other females in my family have more "modest" sized breasts. Being petite, finding the right clothes have been quite difficult.

I have had men date me more for my exterior than my interior so I guess that does not add to the experience. As an artist, I could look artsy, sexy, etc. and more in line with my personality - outgoing, bubbly, and flaunting what I have. My career path however, does not encourage it. So, my style and personality is more "bifurcated". I went to grad school in a very conservative part of the U.S. Wearing tight t-shirts while being a Ph.D. student was not seen as being "professional". I would wear baggy shirts and slouch. Oh well.

I am back in L.A. for the time being and enjoying being more fashionable. I wear tight shirts and tops as I want. I do not wear short outfits or anything like that. It's just the whole issue of academicians and their expectations. My fellow grad students felt that women should not even wear makeup (except for foundation) or look fashionable. I refuse to look like a woman who does not take care of herself, though.

Quoted from Christopher1


You sound disappointed because you have large breasts. Most women would kill for large breasts.

Posted by: Maria Giovanna, Monday, March 12, 2012, 8:33am; Reply: 58
Puritan  and  Calvinistic  is not a easy and compassionate environment imho.  To judge a person and to push her/him  on the outfits,  on the appearances is cruel. It is controlling and abusive Passionprincess imho !
Are we among Talibans !!! LOL
Posted by: Amazone I., Monday, March 12, 2012, 1:19pm; Reply: 59
:o ;D ;D an oriental friend of mine  is an A Rh+ but choleric of da finest...and he loves to cut and kill peeps with words.....(dizzy)(mad)... I never would like having him as an enemy.... yiiikes....(dissappointed)(naughty)(shrug) so I prefer a good rant or yelling and all is over instead of not being sure what will come next... vengeance  is terrible and I really act likewise in the mentioned film about bt-personalities... really I can't cope with such situations... or it makes me immobile or (shrug)(huh)....
Posted by: Goldie, Monday, March 12, 2012, 3:28pm; Reply: 60
THE only time on O is mean and nasty, if thye are hungry for proteins.. feed the O and all is well.. then also when they are threatened .. then the insides churn until life makes sense, because just like all others O's don't like to hurt people.. so they internally churn and until they figure out what to do it is best to feed them protein (or like in real cream fat: ice cream) again..  ;D
Posted by: passionprincess, Monday, March 12, 2012, 7:11pm; Reply: 61
Quoted from Maria Giovanna
Puritan  and  Calvinistic  is not a easy and compassionate environment imho.  To judge a person and to push her/him  on the outfits,  on the appearances is cruel. It is controlling and abusive Passionprincess imho !
Are we among Talibans !!! LOL


Tell me about it! I feel better when I think I look presentable. Presentable = light makeup, hair cuts every 1.5-2 months. However, they thought I was being too "fashionable" and not putting enough study time! My grades showed that I was doing well... Oh well.

Quoted from Amazone I.
:o ;D ;D an oriental friend of mine  is an A Rh+ but choleric of da finest...and he loves to cut and kill peeps with words.....(dizzy)(mad)... I never would like having him as an enemy.... yiiikes....(dissappointed)(naughty)(shrug) so I prefer a good rant or yelling and all is over instead of not being sure what will come next... vengeance  is terrible and I really act likewise in the mentioned film about bt-personalities... really I can't cope with such situations... or it makes me immobile or (shrug)(huh)....


LOL. My sister is an A. I am trying to get her on GTD. I have a feeling she is seriously imbalanced. Her PMS is legendary. Everyone, I mean everyone... takes cover! It is sad.
Posted by: Goldie, Tuesday, March 20, 2012, 11:43am; Reply: 62
I resurected this ..

I think eating avoids.. eventually makes me ANGRY..

I have done so every so often specifically peanuts that I know are bad for me..

and eventually after some weeks I FEEL angry..

so it is food that can HELP greatly to be angry!!1

The antidote for anger is buying a old strong car putting it in the deep woods and go there every once in a while and slamm the doors as hard as one can .. to slamm dorrs behind bad behavior form one self or others.. LOL LOL LOL
Posted by: paul clucas, Thursday, March 22, 2012, 8:56pm; Reply: 63
Anger also comes from repressing frustrations.  Even if you look thoroughly through your food, you may still miss the main ingredient.

Everything is connected to everything, but some connections are worthless for dealing with a particular situation.
Posted by: Goldie, Thursday, March 22, 2012, 11:39pm; Reply: 64
some anger might also come from self - denial of certain foods one wishes to have..

but most often it is foods that make me short tempered.  
Posted by: 14442 (Guest), Friday, March 23, 2012, 1:00am; Reply: 65
Wheat definitely revs me up and not in a good way.  I find a lot of what I read in LR4YT to be true- sticking to weekly plans and staying focused.  That way even if other people around me are mad I can continue to go about my business.
Posted by: greenman, Friday, April 6, 2012, 11:44am; Reply: 66
Quoted from AKArtlover
Anger is also a signal that the liver/gallbladder is congested. About 95% of Americans.  :P

Myself included. Working on it....


What is the best way to ease gallbladder congestion for an 'A' as this may be the problem for a friend?
Posted by: ABJoe, Friday, April 6, 2012, 3:22pm; Reply: 67
Quoted from greenman
What is the best way to ease gallbladder congestion for an 'A' as this may be the problem for a friend?

Avoid avoid foods, eat red beets (if they are good for that person), and follow the liver support protocol.
Posted by: Goldie, Friday, April 6, 2012, 3:46pm; Reply: 68
There are many types of anger.. how many are you expressing?

.. at home we say 'the liver' is  angry.. so maybe all the organs are subjected to be 'angry'...  maybe some are different in their expression?  like furious when drinking? like dangerous when in a car?  Lucky I seldom if ever see the value in that type of rage___ I LEARNED that long ago... so instead _I mostly direct anger at my self..also stupid..  

I generally don't hold on to anger, I forget overnight and then the same issue get's triggered again..
Yet this time I am deliberately holding on to 'this' anger because I WISH to force myself into making changes..  the changes I need to make to get 'away' is a costly one in many ways, so I am upset about that also.  

I vote with my feet,... but in the end I am HOLDING THE BAG any which way .. that is the frustration of it all. If I forgive then the other party in this dilemma will just hurt me again.. if I do not, then I can not forgive.. and the issue never gets resolved.

I wish I was young, when a big move would be so much easier.  Yet I know that is just as silly as thinking that things will get better,, some things never will.

Anger is uncomfortable, I do not like it AND I HAVE NO IDEA OF how to make changes that will make a difference, without hurting me more..  :-/    
Posted by: 14442 (Guest), Friday, April 6, 2012, 4:39pm; Reply: 69
I'm about to take off to the mall and all I can think is, I didn't sleep well, I don't feel great, well I feel OK, I want to go & have a plan  ;D  but sure my anger really can get the best of me.  I'm hoping to do a lot of relaxing walking and soak up some sun and then later have a good meal and be happy all day, not be snippy or rude to anyone regardless of how rude they are to me.  So tedious really.
Posted by: Goldie, Saturday, April 7, 2012, 1:06pm; Reply: 70
The funny thing is that one can have a perfectly good life ASIDE from the place of a specific anger.. I spend only some of my energy on dissagreeable things, but the rest of the day is fine.. you are right take that walk and see pink clouds they are a gift from the Universe..
Posted by: Goldie, Monday, April 16, 2012, 12:31pm; Reply: 71
I was experiencing a super time of disappointment yesterday and I chose to not make myself nuts over it.. I took a pill to quiet anxiety a one time fast acting thing that really took away all PAIN associated with the issue of which I can not make any difference.. Accepting this severe issue is much easier, to the point of total ability to just say: That is the way it is..

I take such a pill once or less a year, but found it totally acceptable not to put ME through all the stages of grief anger fury sadness upset resignation and the like.. I am sooooo glad I had this little pill in my house.. and even remembered to take it when I needed it ..

I am OK today the day after, not happy about the situation, but OK going on with my day TOTALLY not NEEDING the EMOTIONS I could be going trough like a roller coaster..   while still nothing could be changed all around anyway..  and nothing IS changed, the persons that are involved in this scenario are still in it and the issue is never going away.. but I can allow ME to be at peace and not wear my adrenals out and gain two pounds with all the cortisol running around inside .. Peaceful resignation and acceptance without the drama! nice.. and if I need to deal with it later in life, then distance will have built a barrier so it will never hurt as much as it could have..  

The equivilant of putting down 'arms' and 'weapons'..  Yet not putting my arms UP as that would be on invitation for more hurt...  
Posted by: Lin, Monday, April 16, 2012, 2:12pm; Reply: 72
Goldie,
I can understand your approach.  Sometimes we just have to do what we know will work.
And I agree with especially with:
Peaceful resignation and acceptance without the drama! nice.. and if I need to deal with it later in life, then distance will have built a barrier so it will never hurt as much as it could have..
Lin  
Posted by: Amazone I., Monday, April 16, 2012, 3:12pm; Reply: 73
isn't anger an ourburst of negative emotions coz of not fullfilled expectancies??) Perhaps should we seek furthermore here ;) :D....(goofy)(whistle)
Posted by: Goldie, Tuesday, April 17, 2012, 12:21pm; Reply: 74
It worked fine.. I was at peace all day yesterday and happy being me.. The hurt (in another person) can not be fixed ever, so why try or egt all bent out of shape.   But I am happy I took the pill. I had the script since 9/20/10 and took maybe 3-4 during the whole time..   So peace insides is not about how I feel!!!!!! nothing changed in the mind stuff,  BUT HOW THE BODY reacts to it.

IT is on interesting experience to feel the issue but not react to it.. It's one of those things where you would dig up a body and burn it.. so serious.  Bt doing what I did, left me in peace and did not distroy my own BODY REACTION. -  Different from anything I ever experienced, much less body pain, much less mental pain, and much less loss of personal STRENGTH.. It is a physical thing I marvel at the difference.


  
Posted by: gardengirl, Tuesday, April 17, 2012, 12:57pm; Reply: 75
Looks like I need a good bowel movement....
Absolutely furious today and let it out in front of my kids (directed at husband) and my son asked, very concerned "What's wrong mom?" I told him I dropped something and went to my room until my husband left for the day. I am taking my two year old and dog for a good walk - hope it doesn't rain.
It was something small too but it made me feel like I am the housekeeper and I couldn't contain myself.
Posted by: pipnjohn, Thursday, April 19, 2012, 11:53pm; Reply: 76
Quoted from san j
An O friend and I were talking today about O anger, and I repeated something I'd told her a good 10 years ago: That many Os do well to work out hard, to a good sweat, in the morning, so as to find their mood more even throughout the ensuing day.

She said "Wow" as if she'd never heard that before. She hadn't remembered I'd told her that (more than once). It seems now is the time in her life when she's ready for it - There are problems that urgently need to be fixed, and her angry reactivity is one of them.

This question is for you Os and for those who are involved with Os (And who isn't?  ;))
Do you have "fits" of anger, expressions of rage, contempt, criticalness, irritability, that feel good/exhilarating to you to express, but for which you're remorseful because ashamed afterward?
How do you successfully deal with anger?
Has Dr. D'Adamo's work helped you with your mood(s)?
Is there a specific remedy for you? And does it involve intense physical exertion?
Thanks for your input!  :)


All of the above, the greatest cure for these attributes is AGE and the associated wisdom accumulated by experience over time!

If you want to experience your full life quota (3 score and 10 for men), then you just have to learn to manage it!

I am now into my "bonus" years (73) I have only just come to terms with being an "O", ... Sigh!     ;D
Posted by: Goldie, Friday, April 20, 2012, 7:56am; Reply: 77
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It was something small too but it made me feel like I am the housekeeper and I couldn't contain myself.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEcEyNaV8lI


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I am now into my "bonus" years (73) I have only just come to terms with being an "O", ... Sigh!
  

I agree age and distance helps to care a lot less.  Training like 'cops' who 'have' to keep their 'cool' all day ... would maybe help.. but where is such training? for my inner 5 year old???

( I just admitted to my own mind that I often feel POWERLESS (age will do that) and I have NO one to REVENGE against.. OH the POOR dog! :o Dogs are soooooo loyal, and they love us just for breathing.
Posted by: Goldie, Friday, April 20, 2012, 8:26am; Reply: 78
what is anger?  

All anger is about small things.  It is never about the things that really matter.. It's the silent or loud disapproval, the taking for granted all the little things, and all the unspoken of things we do, over which mayor anger develops.

ANGER on the other hand is a reaction "chosen" to be felt.  I KNOW IT DOES not feel so.. but think of it this way:  IF you drive down the road and a kid throws a rock at your car, you become angry, stop and maybe yell at the kid .... or in the least, make the parents pay for the damage..so that they will yell at the kid of lets say 10.... By the time you get back to the kid= he is talking a mile a minute explaining over and over that : I am sorry but please help, my brother fell of the shed roof and there is no one I can call for help.  How long would you be mad.?.

also, when mad as hell..: as soon as the phone rings, you say: Hi how are you... in your sweetest tone..

Reactions are chosen.. It is maybe better to think of : this is the last time I am 'playing' with this or that: I wish to have a family meeting on Friday.  Or a husband and wife meting tonight after dinner.

As we get closer to 42 as a benchmark, we assert our self more and become finally able to say: NO MORE! It is a thing that happens slowly, but it happens and sooner or later that moment comes along when standing UP, standing TALL, becomes the only option.  

In a parenting class they thought me that if the other person made you slightly upset 'they' are looking for attention, if they upset you to feel abused then 'they' are looking for power.  If they made you upset to feel self pity (often not recognized) then 'they' are looking for revenge and finally ; If they make you feel like they leave you no choice then 'they' are feeling hopeless/depressed.  
IN REVERSE this also shows you:  where you where in that moment.

In each case bad reactions will do nothing, unless you can get to where you talk with a list in hand..or post it on the fridge...   MAYBE best done after a compliant calming meal. 8)   I wonder if ice cream is liked for just the reason that it feels forgiving, is festive, short lived, sweet and full of carbs of why we like it???? ..   (sometime just need it?)  ;D

I wish I was thought better HOW to deal with my anger... I always feel that "I am left- holding the bag to fix it- and I have NO clue HOW!  I am doing the best I can- what am I supposed to do? more? more of what?  tell me!

BUT there are no answers coming... and in that, I am angry all over again.. and throwing things only makes me having to clean it up. Not worth it.  :X   I feel for everyone who gets angry!  I feel it.

When I am angry my dog knows it and most often does not enjoy the walk.. I stomp even when I don't intend to.. I 'think' one way I could feel some 'justice' is by taking a tennis racket and smash a ball so far that only the dog can retrieve it.. my luck I would aim it at a window ::).. !

What do you do any of you DO when YOU are angry?     
Posted by: Goldie, Friday, April 20, 2012, 8:49am; Reply: 79
antidote to anger:  Sorry for 3 posts.. on the subject.. I am meandering.. while getting rid of my headache..  :-/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEcEyNaV8lI

Posted by: deblynn3, Friday, April 20, 2012, 3:34pm; Reply: 80
Quoted from san j

This question is for you Os and for those who are involved with Os (And who isn't?  ;))
Do you have "fits" of anger, expressions of rage, contempt, criticalness, irritability, that feel good/exhilarating to you to express, but for which you're remorseful because ashamed afterward?
How do you successfully deal with anger?
Has Dr. D'Adamo's work helped you with your mood(s)?
Is there a specific remedy for you? And does it involve intense physical exertion?
Thanks for your input!  :)


I go into the woods, or someplace alone. I have a good word fight, with that person (even though they aren't there). Then I talk out a solution with myself.  I can usually find answers after I've let off the bad energy.  Sometimes exercise works but that depends on the problem. I'm sorry to say I've can easily cut off a relationship with someone. I see no reason to let a "personality" issue upset my life.
Posted by: Goldie, Friday, April 20, 2012, 3:47pm; Reply: 81
Disagreements should never disqualify someone’s contributions, to ones life..

I think this would be a good thing to look at.. Would it change the way we react if we could think of this at all times?  I wonder?

deblynn3 yes talking it out alone might sometimes help.. so long as it does not continue forever.. creating circular thinking. :-/

I recently really allowed ME to go all out of whack, with a friend, about life in general and I think I found peace in that.. But this can not happen to often unless it would be in a specific TYPE (trained) co-counseling session, or it would be abusive to the listening person.  But I think it helped me to get rid of some circular words in my head ..
Posted by: deblynn3, Friday, April 20, 2012, 4:19pm; Reply: 82
I find talking it out with myself helps me to "see" the other person. I have to play their part.

I've reached a point in my life that other than my daughter and husband I don't need to make concessions, that isn't to say I don't make concessions for others, I just don't need to.

One thing I've learned about relationships with others. If you don't like yourself you can't like others. If you can be happy alone with yourself, you can be happy with others. (and often with very difficult people at that.)
Posted by: Nadira, Tuesday, April 24, 2012, 2:26am; Reply: 83
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Peaceful resignation and acceptance without the drama! nice.. and if I need to deal with it later in life, then distance will have built a barrier so it will never hurt as much as it could have..


I've forgotten who wrote this, but it helped with a situation that happened yesterday, and helped me make a decision today.
Thanks,
Nadira
Posted by: 14442 (Guest), Tuesday, April 24, 2012, 3:39pm; Reply: 84
There really is a lot of anger in this world, especially against those of us who are naturally thin.  The assumptions people make, wow.  Blood type Os everywhere need to change their diet and exercise more though honestly the aggression is hard to control.
Posted by: Goldie, Tuesday, April 24, 2012, 3:57pm; Reply: 85
I am in no way certain.. but youth and ones facial expressions and stance can make others feel like aggression or assertiveness is needed..

Someday keep a friendly face and or any face flip down the visor mirror in the car and look what you portray to the outside world.. I once did that and found I looked a lot more angry then greatly exited..  
Posted by: Goldie, Tuesday, April 24, 2012, 3:59pm; Reply: 86
I am in no way certain.. but youth and ones facial expressions and stance can make others feel like aggression or assertiveness is needed..

Someday keep a friendly face and or any face flip down the visor mirror in the car and look what you portray to the outside world.. I once did that and found I looked a lot more angry then greatly exited..  

and Virgos have that 'demandingness' in their sun sign.. even when not so intentioned it can come across as harsh and superior..
Posted by: paul clucas, Wednesday, April 25, 2012, 12:16am; Reply: 87
Peaceful music is a great stress reliever, of course.

The irony I enjoy is that angry music helps me become calm - after my immediate reaction to the music has passed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDFFHaz9GsY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7WrFSm5e_0&feature=list_related&playnext=1&list=AL94UKMTqg-9DbWL68sPAkvAlePlnagZde

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqaARDsiJv4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0bcRCCg01I
Posted by: Goldie, Wednesday, April 25, 2012, 8:05am; Reply: 88
http://www.viewspot.com/brucelipton

Paul .. Yes quantum mechanics of sound works that way.  We absorb what we need.  I work with (near silent) healing sound waves and see miracles of change all the time.. especially when nothing else works.  
Posted by: Goldie, Wednesday, April 25, 2012, 5:28pm; Reply: 89
Ok .. I am back to ANGER.. I have another friend who is deciding to pick a fight.. I am tired of even listening to the litany of whatever.. I wish to drop this friendship.. It is time.. move on and walk away, never looking back.. but I have no way of doing it without pain.. mine or hers..
she is ill and that pushes all my buttons..

I am going to listen to all the sounds by PAUL above.. and listen all afternoon clearing out my cobwebs..

Thanks for posting the links.. yes loud and sensuous.. powerful I love them and more..  :K) thanks

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I have been listening and love every note.. powerful and just what I needed today.. How is it that all the pieces play without interruption?? I have never experienced that ... thanks.. lovely..

as for friendships some should just be done with.. like April 25. done, fished, and over.. just finished like a bowl of soup.. I am working on such a one today.. The music is perfection it self..  ;D
Posted by: Amazone I., Wednesday, April 25, 2012, 5:45pm; Reply: 90
:o(eek)(oh)(dizzy) Paul thanx for sharing but this musique is too dramatic for my gousto .... :B(shrug).... :-/
Posted by: Goldie, Wednesday, April 25, 2012, 9:52pm; Reply: 91
WOW.. hours of uninterupted music.. I love it.  I have never been able to view or listen to videos in this fashion.. Thanks Paul..  I can tell you that I needed that!!!
Posted by: 18545 (Guest), Wednesday, April 25, 2012, 10:14pm; Reply: 92
So if someone is threatening you ask them their blood type and if the answer is O start running so they can chase you and the exercise will clear the angry stuff from their body and they will calm down and everything will be ok.  Just be sure you can run faster?
Posted by: paul clucas, Thursday, April 26, 2012, 6:20am; Reply: 93
Quoted from Goldie
WOW.. hours of uninterupted music.. I love it.  I have never been able to view or listen to videos in this fashion.. Thanks Paul..  I can tell you that I needed that!!!
It is great you have found something new that works for you.

"Life without music is a mistake."  - Just about the only thing that Nietzche and I agree upon.
Posted by: Goldie, Thursday, April 26, 2012, 12:14pm; Reply: 94
OK back to anger in O.....

I have about three times a year reasons to be angry..  :X ;D  and about 2 years ago I asked my doctor to give me something for such occasions.. he did.. Propranalol..  I have since taken it three- four times - one pill each, month apart is all I needed.. but even yesterday getting over a great hurt and pain of the emotional kind was so much easier to deal with.   I feel refreshed, clear of mind and can not imagine even how I would be going in circles.. without that little pill.  

just sharing.. maybe sometime we really could use some 'help'..

I am feeling clear!  even as the 'situation' is still whatever..  it is.. Its as if the anger, hurt, pain did not ADHERE to my synopsis' in the brain..  

I think I just found something that would confiorm that NOT connecting to the ORGAN part of my brain.. happy reading..

http://learninggnm.com/documents/firstlaw.html
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