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Posted by: marjorie, Thursday, March 1, 2012, 4:19pm
Hi everyone

What are your thoughts on canola oil? I have been getting a grill chick breast at WF- and noticed that they use canola oil.... it is a neutral on my swami, but I have a feeling it may be contributing to fat around my waist

Thoughts?
Posted by: Lola, Thursday, March 1, 2012, 5:04pm; Reply: 1
check bacterial overgrowth if around your waist.......

worth following the protocol and or that quiz

http://www.4yourtype.com/WLP_BTD.asp
Posted by: marjorie, Thursday, March 1, 2012, 5:10pm; Reply: 2
Quoted from Lola
check bacterial overgrowth if around your waist.......

worth following the protocol and or that quiz

http://www.4yourtype.com/WLP_BTD.asp


how do I check for bacterial overgrowth..... ?

I think I just need to settle down with portions.
Posted by: Lola, Thursday, March 1, 2012, 7:26pm; Reply: 3
try the spit test at home

http://www.bing.com/search?cp=1252&FORM=FREESS&q=spit+test&q1=site%3Adadamo.com
Posted by: marjorie, Thursday, March 1, 2012, 8:00pm; Reply: 4
ok, thanks.. so how do you feel about o's and the canola oil?
Posted by: LittleRose, Thursday, March 1, 2012, 8:15pm; Reply: 5
I've been using it for about a year - i heard it was good for cooking with as it can stand been heated to higher temperatures.

I have always had waist fat issues so I don't think Canola oil has contributed to that, that was already there!

I'll be interested to hear what other Os have found.

I have also recently got rice bran oil for similar reasons, but it doesn't seem to be listed on BTD, so I guess neutral? Nice and light for cooking...
Posted by: marjorie, Thursday, March 1, 2012, 10:23pm; Reply: 6
Quoted from LittleRose
I've been using it for about a year - i heard it was good for cooking with as it can stand been heated to higher temperatures.

I have always had waist fat issues so I don't think Canola oil has contributed to that, that was already there!

I'll be interested to hear what other Os have found.

I have also recently got rice bran oil for similar reasons, but it doesn't seem to be listed on BTD, so I guess neutral? Nice and light for cooking...


Thank you for your insight. I appreciate your thoughts!
Posted by: marjorie, Thursday, March 1, 2012, 10:40pm; Reply: 7
Quoted from Lola


do you think the more beef I eat, the smaller my stomach will be?

Posted by: marjorie, Thursday, March 1, 2012, 10:41pm; Reply: 8
In general, do people find that if they eat more meat, they lose inches in their stomach?

Thank you in advance for your thoughts.
Posted by: 14922 (Guest), Thursday, March 1, 2012, 11:04pm; Reply: 9
Canola oil is not all that it's cracked up to be. I avoid it.

I looked up some info on canola oil for you Marjorie. You be the judge.


"Well, first of all, you need to realize that much of what you hear in the mainstream media has been influenced by heavy handed marketing tactics by big food companies.  Canola oil is cheap for them to produce so they want to fool you into thinking it's a "health oil" so that people, restaurants, etc will buy it up as their main oil of choice.

The dirty truth about canola oil:

Yes, it's true that canola oil is high in monounsaturates, but let me explain why canola oil is anything but "healthy".

Canola oil is made from something called rapeseed. Rapeseed actually had to be bred over the years to reduce the percentage of a problematic component of rapeseed, which is erucic acid.

Important note on canola oil "urban legends":  There is a problem with most websites that DEFEND canola oil, saying that internet "urban legends" on the dangers of canola oil are unfounded.  The problem is that these websites that defend canola oil ONLY talk about the issue of erucic acid.  The issue of erucic acid IS an urban legend, because erucic acid has been bred out to very low levels over the years, so it is a non-issue.

However, these websites that defend canola oil are barking up the wrong tree because they don't address the issue of the processing of canola oil and oxidation of the polyunsaturated component of canola oil, which is what makes it unhealthy for human consumption.  

Let's look at the REAL issues with canola oil:

Canola oil typically ranges between 55-65% monounsaturated fat and between 28-35% polyunsaturated fat, with just a small amount of saturated fat.

While we've been led to believe that high monounsaturated fat oils are good for us (which they are in the case of virgin olive oil or from unprocessed nuts or seeds), the fact is that canola oil has more detriments than it does benefits.

One of the biggest problems with highly processed and refined vegetable oils such as corn oil, soybean oil, and yes, even canola oil, is that the polyunsaturated component of the oil is highly unstable under heat, light, and pressure, and this heavily oxidizes the polyunsaturates which increases free radicals in your body.

The end result of all of this refining and processing are oils that are highly inflammatory in your body when you ingest them, potentially contributing to heart disease, weight gain, and other degenerative diseases.

The reason that extra virgin olive oil is good for you is that it is cold pressed without the use of heat and solvents to aid extraction. EVOO also contains important antioxidants that help protect the stability of the oil.

Canola oil, on the other hand, is typically extracted and refined using high heat, pressure, and petroleum solvents such as hexane. Most canola oil undergoes a process of caustic refining, degumming, bleaching, and deoderization, all using high heat and questionable chemicals.

Does canola even have trans fats?

Even worse, all of this high heat, high pressure processing with solvents actually forces some of the omega-3 content of canola oil to be transformed into trans fats.

According to Dr. Mary Enig, PhD, and Nutritional Biochemist, "Although the Canadian government lists the trans fat content of canola at a minimal 0.2 percent, research at the University of Florida at Gainesville, found trans fat levels as high as 4.6 percent in commercial liquid canola oil".

And this is the stuff that they are marketing to you as a "healthy oil"!

As you can see from the details above on how canola oil is processed, it is barely any healthier for you than other junk oils like soybean oil or corn oil.  The bottom line is that it is an inflammatory oil in your body and should be avoided as much as possible."

The only canola oil that might be reasonable is if you see that it is "cold pressed" and organic. Most canola oil is NOT cold pressed or organic, so you might as well choose oils that you know are healthier."
Posted by: swd123, Friday, March 2, 2012, 12:16am; Reply: 10
Thank you for that informative post. In the case of O's rice bran oil, macadamia nut oil, and ghee are probably the best oils for cooking related to higher smoke points as well.

Just a side note: In Ayurvedic medicine sesame oil can be used externally to promote detoxification.
Posted by: Lola, Friday, March 2, 2012, 3:18am; Reply: 11
castor oil as well, on the liver region over night
Posted by: marjorie, Friday, March 2, 2012, 3:36am; Reply: 12
Quoted from 14922


Wow-- thank you for taking the time to research and I done this myself, but was starting to get confused... I agree. Keep it as an avoid. Seriously, it may be contributing to my stomach issues.

So sad that the media just wants everyone to be so ignorant to these detrimental health concerns.
Posted by: marjorie, Friday, March 2, 2012, 3:37am; Reply: 13
Quoted from Lola
castor oil as well, on the liver region over night


Interesting...you just rub it on your liver area?

I love learning new things!
Posted by: Possum, Friday, March 2, 2012, 3:44am; Reply: 14
marjorie - soak a flannel with it & place over the liver area with a hot water bottle overnight... ;)
Posted by: Spring, Friday, March 2, 2012, 4:11am; Reply: 15
I used up some old canola oil recently to start a very good fire - outside! It definitely is good for that! Not explosive like lighter fluid or (heaven forbid) gasoline! Speaking of castor oil, I wonder how well it would start a good fire..... I have some that is old.... I have some fresh, though, that I will put on my liver tonight, Lola! I use it for a zillion things but had forgotten about that one. Imagine that! Thanks for the reminder!
Posted by: veggiequeen, Friday, March 2, 2012, 6:50am; Reply: 16
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The only canola oil that might be reasonable is if you see that it is "cold pressed" and organic. Most canola oil is NOT cold pressed or organic, so you might as well choose oils that you know are healthier."


There is canola oil that is expellar pressed and organic, easily obtained. Spectrum Naturals makes one and it is 3rd party certified. I use all those other good oils - olive, ghee, walnut, etc - but do use some cold-pressed organic canola for baking and other uses occasionally. Also there are some responsibly produced breads and other commercial 'organic' products that use expellar pressed organic canola as an ingredient, not because it's "cheap" which it isn't, but because it offers taste, texture, and stability benefits, and has health benefits also, due to being high in monounsaturates, high in Omega-3, and lower in polyunsaturates which are problematic in high heat cooking. These features make it specifically anti-inflammatory, contrary to what the cited article points out about 'commercial' canola.

I agree that all other canola besides this type should be avoided.

I have heard that Whole Foods (non-organic) store brand canola is guaranteed to be non-GMO, not sure if it is expellar pressed or extracted chemically though. Would be possible to ask them, I think they would tell the truth. So it may be possible that the canola in their grilled chicken breast is just fine.

At any rate, I had read all the negative press about canola and stopped using it several years ago... and that's when my waistline fat really started to increase! But more recently I have added back the cold-pressed organic canola, so I guess I'll find out now whether it is really just portion sizes that is causing the trouble!

I think I know how it's going to turn out... time to start using a smaller plate! :)
Posted by: JJR, Friday, March 2, 2012, 7:26am; Reply: 17
Informative thread.  I appreciate all input.  It's a neutral on my list and I assume it's just like anything.  If you buy lousy grade olive oil, it's not that good for you either I bet.  I don't know.  
Posted by: PrincessMia, Friday, March 2, 2012, 2:13pm; Reply: 18
Quoted from LittleRose
I've been using it for about a year - i heard it was good for cooking with as it can stand been heated to higher temperatures.

I have always had waist fat issues so I don't think Canola oil has contributed to that, that was already there!

I'll be interested to hear what other Os have found.

I have also recently got rice bran oil for similar reasons, but it doesn't seem to be listed on BTD, so I guess neutral? Nice and light for cooking...


What have you used the rice bran oil for LittleRose? Were you happy with the results?
Posted by: marjorie, Friday, March 2, 2012, 3:40pm; Reply: 19
Quoted from Possum
marjorie - soak a flannel with it & place over the liver area with a hot water bottle overnight... ;)


Hi
Ok, so I just soak a flannel cloth and then place on my stomach-- where do I put the hot water bottle? So confused right now:)
Posted by: JJR, Friday, March 2, 2012, 5:23pm; Reply: 20
Quoted from PrincessMia


What have you used the rice bran oil for LittleRose? Were you happy with the results?


I've used it in a recipe for chocolate/carob cake I got off of this website.  It gives it a better flavor than when I use olive oil.  Some people really didn't like the olive oil in the cake.  hehehehhehe.
Posted by: Spring, Friday, March 2, 2012, 5:41pm; Reply: 21
Olive oil mayo is the absolute pits to me. I suppose it is this super taster bit. I do love it on cooked veggies though.
Posted by: ruthiegirl, Sunday, March 4, 2012, 3:26am; Reply: 22
Quoted from marjorie


Hi
Ok, so I just soak a flannel cloth and then place on my stomach-- where do I put the hot water bottle? So confused right now:)


The hot water bottle goes right on top of the flannel cloth. The point of the water bottle is to heat up the castor oil and let it soak in and absorb toxins out of your body through the skin.
Posted by: Victoria, Sunday, March 4, 2012, 5:21am; Reply: 23
Or you can put plastic over the flannel and the hot water bottle rests on the plastic.  Keeps the oil from getting all over the hot water bottle and everything else.  ;)
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