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Posted by: Karma, Monday, January 30, 2012, 1:22pm
My heart beat is loud when I try to go to sleep. It vibrates through my pillow. I talked to T.S. Wiley on one of these conference calls and she told me it was a thyroid problem. She recommended her hormone therapy. Is this a thyroid problem? Any other people who have this problem and solved it? :-/
Posted by: Lloyd, Monday, January 30, 2012, 1:42pm; Reply: 1
Perhaps you are hearing your pulse through an artery in the ear.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9128063
Posted by: yaman, Monday, January 30, 2012, 2:33pm; Reply: 2
It used to happen to me at times when I'm stressed or excited..

Since I've found this latex pillow, I don't hear heart beat even when stressed or excited..
Posted by: Victoria, Monday, January 30, 2012, 5:46pm; Reply: 3
I've been having something similar for the past few months.  I don't hear my heart beat when I go to bed, but toward the later part of night it sometimes wakes me.  I've been puzzling over this quite a bit and trying different things.

Finally I spoke with an acupuncturist who asked me if I have chronic allergies.  I told him yes, but they aren't bad.  I heat my house with a wood stove and there is always a little more dust than most homes might have.  So it does irritate my sinuses.  I usually wake in the morning with some swollen sinus cavities and need to use a saline rinse.

He believes that is the cause.  He said (as Lloyd suggested) that with the artery (arteries ? ) so near that area, when there is puffiness or swelling of the nasal cavity, sinus or inner ear, it presses against the artery.  I don't know if I'm explaining it correctly, but it's something like this.  I have noticed that there does seem to be a correlation.

Maybe that's why Yaman experienced improvement by switching to a different pillow.
Posted by: Chloe, Monday, January 30, 2012, 6:29pm; Reply: 4
Pulsatile tinnitus...??

Pulsatile tinnitus is the perception of a rhythmical noise that is synchronous with the patient's heartbeat.

http://www.whooshers.com/
Posted by: Spring, Monday, January 30, 2012, 7:03pm; Reply: 5
Quoted from Karma
My heart beat is loud when I try to go to sleep. It vibrates through my pillow. I talked to T.S. Wiley on one of these conference calls and she told me it was a thyroid problem. She recommended her hormone therapy. Is this a thyroid problem? Any other people who have this problem and solved it? :-/


The only time I had that was when I was taking too much Biotin. Puritan got carried away with high dosage and was only stocking those when I ordered.  ::) I complained to them, and they went back to the smaller version as an option. I know it was the Biotin because I tested it three times so there was no doubt about it. I started cutting them into quarters to get rid of what I had. Worked fine. Purtitan would have taken them back, but it was too much bother for such an inexpensive item.
Posted by: Karma, Monday, January 30, 2012, 7:03pm; Reply: 6
Thank you for all the replies. Yes, it feels like the bed is shaking almost. Very loud!
I also wake up with a stuffy nose often. Wiley said it had to do with a node in the thyroid that influences the heart.
Posted by: Karma, Monday, January 30, 2012, 7:04pm; Reply: 7
Should I follow the allergy protocol?
I take biotin but not very, very large amounts.
Posted by: Lloyd, Monday, January 30, 2012, 7:07pm; Reply: 8
Quoted from Karma
Thank you for all the replies. Yes, it feels like the bed is shaking almost. Very loud!
I also wake up with a stuffy nose often. Wiley said it had to do with a node in the thyroid that influences the heart.


I am amazed and impressed that Wiley could narrow down from all of the various possibilities to the one that Wiley happens to sell a supplement for.

Which does not mean that Wiley is incorrect, or that the supplement would not help if Wiley was correct.

Just one of those things. (whistle)
Posted by: 14442 (Guest), Monday, January 30, 2012, 7:19pm; Reply: 9
I have this sometimes too yes I think it could be thyroid related.  Exercise sometimes helps but also makes it worse.  Yeah the whole the thyroid thing is hard to get good information about- let us know whatever you find out.
Posted by: Karma, Monday, January 30, 2012, 9:54pm; Reply: 10
Quoted from Lloyd


I am amazed and impressed that Wiley could narrow down from all of the various possibilities to the one that Wiley happens to sell a supplement for.

Which does not mean that Wiley is incorrect, or that the supplement would not help if Wiley was correct.

Just one of those things. (whistle)


Maybe you're right, but she's very smart! I read Lights Out! 2 years ago.
Posted by: Karma, Monday, January 30, 2012, 9:55pm; Reply: 11
Quoted from 14442
I have this sometimes too yes I think it could be thyroid related.  Exercise sometimes helps but also makes it worse.  Yeah the whole the thyroid thing is hard to get good information about- let us know whatever you find out.


I don't know. I can actually feel my heart beat more than I can hear it. It's just very powerful. I guess loud is the wrong word. Maybe I should change the title.
Posted by: Karma, Monday, January 30, 2012, 9:56pm; Reply: 12
Quoted from D.L.
Have you monitored your blood pressure and pulse? The night before I went in the emergency room, my pulse was fast and my blood pressure was extremely high. I could hear my heart beat so loudly in my ear on the pillow that I couldn't sleep. Now that I have those under control, I can't hear it in my ears when I try to sleep.


I do have some hypertension. It's a gatherer thing. :(
Posted by: Lin, Monday, January 30, 2012, 10:06pm; Reply: 13

This is interesting link.  I was having this off and on last winter, and it would happen mostly after I had been in bed. And it feels like I can hear my heart in my ear.  Victoria's Doctor's explanation sounds like it could apply to me:

Quoted: "He believes that is the cause.  He said (as Lloyd suggested) that with the artery (arteries ? ) so near that area, when there is puffiness or swelling of the nasal cavity, sinus or inner ear, it presses against the artery"
Posted by: Spazcat, Monday, January 30, 2012, 10:30pm; Reply: 14
I had that when my thyroid med dose was too high.  I think you can also get some of that when peri menopause hits.  
Posted by: Chloe, Monday, January 30, 2012, 11:07pm; Reply: 15
I only have it in one ear....when I'm lying on my right side in bed...I hear the pounding in my left ear....but when I lie on my left side, I don't hear it in my right or left ear.  So for me, it can't be
thyroid....

For me, I think it's more likely to go back to the concept that it's sinus/ear/fluid/inflammation related.

Do you all hear this when you're on your back?   Sitting?  Walking around?  Or just lying down?
And is it the same intensity in both ears?
Posted by: meh206, Tuesday, January 31, 2012, 9:07pm; Reply: 16
I also have this occasionally, I also have occasional a fib. On the afibbers board I posted the same question and the reply was that I need more potassium. So I concentrate on getting more potassium in my diet. It seems to work,
Maryann
Posted by: Victoria, Tuesday, January 31, 2012, 10:24pm; Reply: 17
Quoted from meh206
I also have this occasionally, I also have occasional a fib. On the afibbers board I posted the same question and the reply was that I need more potassium. So I concentrate on getting more potassium in my diet. It seems to work,
Maryann


Were they suggesting that there is a connection between fib and the sound of heartbeat inside the head?

Posted by: meh206, Thursday, February 2, 2012, 7:34pm; Reply: 18
Quoted from Victoria


Were they suggesting that there is a connection between fib and the sound of heartbeat inside the head?

In my case I could hear my heart beat in my ears. It was syggested that I need more potassium.
They pay very close attention to the sodium potassium ratio and making sure you have enough magnesium.

Posted by: NewHampshireGirl, Friday, February 3, 2012, 1:02am; Reply: 19
For a few years I could feel the heart beat quite heavily when I would lie on my left side.  Yes, it did turn out to be a thyroid problem.  For me, it was a dramatic problem because a cancerous nodule was discovered and my thyroid had to be removed.
Posted by: Jane, Friday, February 3, 2012, 4:19pm; Reply: 20
NHG,
How are you feeling now?  I've been having problems with feeling something strange, like a lightness in my chest and nervousness.  I've got a call into my endocrinologist because he increased my Tirosint and I think it's too much. Also think I need more exercise but I stubbed my toe and my regular shoes, boots don't fit.  Wearing after ski boots.
Posted by: chrissyA, Friday, February 3, 2012, 4:51pm; Reply: 21
I took myself to the emergency room one night after several weeks of a pounding heartbeat. In my case it was anxiety related. The Dr. gave me two weeks of Xanax. Wow is that stuff miserable - but it settled me down.
Posted by: Lin, Friday, February 3, 2012, 4:59pm; Reply: 22
Chrissy,
I feel for you I went through the pounding heart due to anxiety a few times in my life.  It is frightening when you don't know what is going on.
I think the A type diet helps a lot.
Lin
Posted by: NewHampshireGirl, Friday, February 3, 2012, 5:52pm; Reply: 23
Quoted from Jane
NHG,
How are you feeling now?  I've been having problems with feeling something strange, like a lightness in my chest and nervousness.  I've got a call into my endocrinologist because he increased my Tirosint and I think it's too much. Also think I need more exercise but I stubbed my toe and my regular shoes, boots don't fit.  Wearing after ski boots.


Oh, no, not the stubbed toe syndrome!  ;D

I'm doing fine.  It does look as though I shall remain on blood pressure medicine.  I actually thought I could go all my life without BP meds but (sigh) it is not to be.  Your nervousness could be too much thyroid replacement so let me know what your endocrinologist says.  A lightness in the chest is quite a description and interesting.
Posted by: Jane, Friday, February 3, 2012, 6:07pm; Reply: 24
Just spoke to endo.  He's cutting me back to where I was.  I also told him I really didn't see much difference between the tirsosint and levoxyl so I'm going back on the levoxyl plus my compound.  I'm off of everything tomorrow and then just the compound for Sunday until the fluttering/palpatations stop.  I don't even know if what I was feeling were palpatations....just kind of this lightness in the upper chest below the neck which made me nervous and then the nerves took over.
Posted by: chrissyA, Friday, February 3, 2012, 6:30pm; Reply: 25
Thank you, Lin, and likewise  :)
Posted by: 37717 (Guest), Thursday, April 25, 2013, 2:05pm; Reply: 26
When this happens to me, I switch sides I am sleeping on and it normally goes away.
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